Are Flash / SSD Hard Drives Safe? - Best Of Tekzilla

[gulllars]

I've had SSD RAIDs since 2008, and in all the systems i've set up for me and my family, i've had 11 SSD. 1 of the ones i bought in 2008 (32GB Mtron) failed in 2011 after laying on a shelf for a year after relatively heavy use for 2 years, it was covered by warranty but they were out of production, so i got a (128GB) Samsung 830 as a replacement.

Overall, i'd say SSDs are more safe than harddrives, and by a good margin if you don't do firmware upgrades right after they are released.

[navthejattnsc]

@DefectedSalvations lol no one buy's ssd for storage, get another M4 and raid them!!!

[DefectedSalvations]

@navthejattnsc lol to late .... already got another one .... HDD is dead to me now .

[waseem1173]

a*s h*les ! turn the bloody music down at the end

[2112gil]

Does anybody know if Crucial is a good brand for SSDs?

[darthirakli]

@2112gil Crucial drives are generally very good. However, as always, I would suggest reading reviews before buying one.

[DefectedSalvations]

@darthirakli I got the new Crucial M4 Drive 128 GBs this will be my first SSD .... If I like it I will buy another SSD next month for extra storage

[ReinhardSchuster]

@DefectedSalvations M4 ist the best i have so far, all other were crap

[DefectedSalvations]

@ReinhardSchuster yeah man my Speeds are off the chain !! its like I landing in Drive space OZ ! Skyrim no more frame issues !! Batman runs mint !! BF3 runs perfected !! its like I died and gone to Speed freak heaven .

[kilplayer]

they need to to make these things allot cheaper!

[mvpeterson]

My Ocz Vertex 2 120GB just failed after 1 month

[auesr]

80 gb ssd is now around 100 bucks range. man i want the price to drop faster. but i dont think this technology will be cheap enough to be in every computer for another 10 years.

[abbasean]

That's what windows do

[ralfytm]

what about kingston ssd? are they good, because i have a memory stick kingston and it works great

[chronofusion]

gavilatius that depends on how much STUFF ya have. if you have only around 4 games, starcraft 2 =12 gigs, P.O.P trilogy=less than 20 gigs, that's 32 gigs ish, win 7 home premium x64 uses around 16 gigs. so almost 50 gigs taken up. so it depends on the SIZE of the ssd you choose to buy. However, to compliment your point. even if you put all those games on a 7200 or 10k rpm hdd. and put a loading shortcut on your ssd ..YOU STILL get the same great loading speeds of the ssd. cheers everyone

[gavilatius]

you're better off using the SSD for the OS and then use a HDD for all the rest of your stuff

[LtFluffelz]

whoot!! i just got me a 64bg kingston for only 70 bucks. cant wait to use it

[chronofusion]

@LtFluffelz not that i am trying to be condescending towards you but you must have really lucked out on a shell shocker equivalent deal from another company because it wasn't newegg . com I check that website 4 times in every 30 hour periods and have the email subscription for updates. They haven't had such a deal on ssd's in a while. Definitely CONGRATS though. slowly but surely we're getting closer to the 1 dollar per 1 gig pricepoint like in 2002 ish with the 7200 rpm hdd's. cheers

[LtFluffelz]

@chronofusion yeah dude im really glad i found that pricetag. I found it on buy.com. they dont focus on components as much, but theyre awesome!! Its actually one of the lower end kingston ssd's. Still great tho. funny thing is i still havent used it LOL i have yet to complete my i5 build. that stuff aint cheap, but im buying it in parts over time.

[chronofusion]

@LtFluffelz i feel that..my wallet does at least. job market down south is piss ridiculous. ya can only do so much.

[chronofusion]

Pufixas, unfortunately you're not talking into account the windows updates and updates of whatever game(s) you choose to put on this drive. they take up additional space also. FTR. at newegg.com I bought just 2 weeks after 2010 christmas a mushkin callisto deluxe 240 gig mlc ssd for 425.00 including shipping. Sandforce 1200 controller freaking hauls ass. after filling this ssd to having only 40% capacity left. WEI still rates it 7.6., was 7.7. cheers.fk intel overpriced STILL....

[pufixas]

80GB:

Windows 7 OS - 16GB

GAME: 10GB

16+10=26(GB)

80-26=54(GB)

If you install just one game and OS you will have more than 50GB of free space...

[serhad95]

what is the best ssd hard drive has any1 got clue? i am thinking about to get one any suggestions? t thanks for ur help god bless u

[KnightsSoccer82]

@serhad95 If its a mac, go OWC.

OWC is always the way to go.

[serhad95]

@KnightsSoccer82 no  dude i have sony / windows/ 64 bit and thinking about ocz vertex !!!

[gizmofsu]

@serhad95 Generally, all SSD's use similar quality flash modules, so the only real difference is their controllers. The best controllers are Intel, Samsung, Indilinx (owned by OCZ), and Sandforce. Any SSD using these controllers are a very high quality product.

The one's to stay away from are J Micron.

[serhad95]

@gizmofsu i bought ocz vertex 2 i hope i done good decision D:

[PLr1c3r]

tekzilla roll'd at the end of the clip

don't listen to this with your cans!

[MrNightwings74]

HA I'l stick with my 1.5tb hdd from WD

[jak3legacy]

They are also the best for military application due to the fact of how sturdy and long lasting they are.

[rickymontero]

the question itself was "Is it safe or not?" I know is faster, less power usage, cutting edge tech and all that stuff. BUT is it safe? since its using the same technology than regular thumbdrives, how do u know if I wont be loosing my data?

[mario11168]

@rickymontero losing*

Apparently they have 1 million hour life which is with constant writing at highest capacity, and 1 million hours is about 117 years. They're probably as safe as any electronic but don't fail as much as people say they do, at that time I'd be dead before one wore out... I might be wrong though, but I think the only way they're worse than HDD's is their cost >.>

[sciman001]

i got the alo alo ad. lolz

[Prence]

I really want a SSD but they just don't have the space I want. Good thing that the sizes are getting larger and the prices are coming down. I'm going to wait another year till they get to 1 terrabyte and the price drops to reasonable range. But I really want one now. lol

[sixty777]

what's up with these commercials!!!

[artifactingreality]

these guys know how to make an exciting video.

[doubleanti]

"oh my guuudness! there's fifty percent more battery life!!!"

[doubleanti]

"oh my guuudness! there's fifty percent more battery life!!!"

[Danny7930]

his ears are so big.

i think he can hear this comment before he reads it.

[cyrax1311]

@Danny7930 lmao that made me laugh pretty hard ;P

[djsufferthing]

Why not just sell us the controller and let us stick our own MMC cards into it, lol.

[mrabudi1]

i startled at the begining of the outro lol

[jeroeniskoning]

Im getting one =D

[valamaas]

Geezzzzz, the ending credit music scared the heck out of me. Better than a double coffee!

[PKStarstormDX]

I know Windows 7 is big but it's surely not that big. I want a fast computer to do things like run as high tier of emulators as possible, like ePSXe with Pete's OpenGL2 and Dolphin(Paper Mario: 1000 Year Door and Super Smash Bros. Melee, anyone?), and I'm sure I'll be able to fit Windows 7 and several of my most favorite programs (and .isos and other things) on there.

I know that's gotta be exaggeration for hyperbole, but yeah.. just putting that out there. If I want space, externals exist.

[SgtThom]

@PKStarstormDX

I wonder if the load times will increase with those games(emulated games),Since they do load data from the Hard drive continuously.

[CopyrightPropaganda]

@PKStarstormDX

You mean the USB drives that are friggin' slow?

Buy a 1 TB Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ for around 70 bucks, buy SATA connectors, attach to motherboard, be happy.

[oc5nsli341nforce4]

I might get a 32gb SSD, its got enough room for my swap file and that is it. I log a lot of use my hard drives (high read/write cycles). Why simple keep the traditional drive for os and data while the page file that makes rigs slower than they actually are is on the SSD. I'll wait for larger SSD to hit the market that doesn't cost as much as a used car that can meet my needs.

[JetJL]

40gb intel ssd for 110 bucks. I'm getting it. later I'm getting a 1tb hard drive.

[warkarma]

I hate Ads before video, and you cant turn them off. Such a bullcrap

[ZephMan13]

@warkarma If it wasn't for those ads then youtube wouldn't be free.

[soaffb1337]

@bizzy400 doens't work anymore

[bizzy400]

@soaffb1337 yeah they fixed it :( 

[warkarma]

@bizzy400 hmm... i will try it out :) i could never guese refreshing page will turn off adds :D

[vampov]

this is outdated. Cool episode but sandforce is now a force to be reckoned with.

[SGTBizarro]

Am I the only one to almost fly out of my chair when the outro music played so damn loud? lol

[roger767]

can you have 2 ssd's in raid 0 and 1 normal drive in a system?

[rysterf8]

It''s definitely safe now. NewEgg just added their new SSD section and common companies are now manufacturing them as if they're any other component.

[philumber]

I'll agree with Anand on one thing. The older Jmicron controllers were junk.

[philumber]

Anand is a legend in his own mind. He basically regurgitates whitepapers, marketing, and junk science. Iometer is a server benchmark written by Intel and especially used to exaggerate desktop SSD performance. It's actually a terrible predictor. If random 4KB and IOPS was the most important factor then the Intel drives would be 3-4x faster than the Indilinx drives based on those very numbers. Instead they are around the app loading speed.

[Mcphlee]

I do everything fine on one 80GB SSD.

[JoelOFH]

LOL@"Just enough room for your operating system and one game"

Get real.

[zc456]

@JoelOFH

Do you realize how big games are these days? I can't imagine having WoW and Crysis with Windows 7 on a single 40GB SSD.

[barf245]

@zc456 I'm getting a OCZ Technology 120 GB Vertex 2 Series one and putting Win. 7 64 bit with WoW SCII and Diablo 3 in the future.

[thesinful]

@JoelOFH What a dipshit

[limeroundup]

@JoelOFH

This is a 2009 vid...

[FriedChicken4Life]

80 gb is more than enough for "your operating system and 1 game"

The interviewer is a total twat

[oisiaa]

Is he a twat or a twit?

[FriedChicken4Life]

both lol

[lightnite43545]

Anand Shimpi u the best :D

[Govadina]

full format your drive every year and it will be only 2 times slower than the latest SSDs.

oh, and 1 min? your stopwatch's dead

[bradzdestroyer]

love how the music gets so damn loud in the end.

[HunterWarrior]

@bradzdestroyer Thanks for the heads up. I made sure to reduce volume near the end and it was still pretty loud. Good grief = |

[smercer1000]

I run Raid 0 across 4 500gb WD RE2 's. Windows boots extremly fast, costs $350 altogether and I have 2 tb's of space. HDtune reports 290mb/s read/write speed.

[USAFFountain]

Spin up and seek time? That has to be taken into consideration

[niggyspoo1]

wtf create cartoon

[RrogueBblood]

lawl creat a cartoon of you@!

[spiggitybap]

WTF a minute to open 3 apps?!?!

On a fresh restart, I can immediately open Photoshop cs4 x64, Firefox, and launch a PDF within 10-20sec MAX. My computer is legit, but it's nothing incredible.

[BSZanatsu]

He is probly on the payrole of many of the companys that make SSDs. I am using a SATA1 HHD for my OS right now and I boot in less that 40sec. I can then run IE Skype Steam and several other programs that are on the main drive in 20 easaly. Steam being on a second drive but it still has to call things from the main. I will be upgrading to a VRaptor soon for Win7.

[Arthurb06]

I highly doubt that.

[thelegendarypaki]

I have an ssd in my netbook (by OCZ) and I have no complains. One difference I noticed was wake up time from hibernation. What is anand saying ? what $2000 computer takes 1 minute to launch internet explorer?

[thelegendarypaki]

yea, he said it around 3:24 that a new $2000 machine will take a minute on "the world's fastest desktop" (with something like a nahalem platform). really? I like to know what apps he is talking about because none of my apps take a minute to start up on a new machine...

[lawrencezig93]

Yep intel x25-M is great 80GB for the OS is fine then I have 4x1TB for data

[bizzy400]

what u using 4 tera for in home?

[thelegendarypaki]

You can never have enough harddrive space. My desktop has 1 TB and I am already running out after 1 year of use. Pictures, documents, home videos,and ahem...pirated movies (not that I do it, some people do it). Usually if you are going to have a storage that size, its better to just build a cheap home server for storing everything

[v1d300]

Ohh another cropped part of another video ???

ZZZZ Better from next time crop n upload while u upload the actual full video .

[dragngt]

We need 3.5" ssd drives as well. Granted you won't get 1TB for $100 like we get now but we only want external drives that size. I can't imagine needing that much room as a primary. Not for home use at least.

Just need 320gb in ssd 3.5"

[EliteSlayer542]

Actually 1TB is a lot less then you think. I have a 256GB SSD for my OS and then 2 HDDs both with 1.5TB so I have over 3TB of space and It's almost all eaten up!

I have tons of movies, songs, pictures, huge programs and Especially games on my Hard drives.

I HATE world of warcraft and don't play, but I have a ton of other games installed and they take up about 1.8TBs. the next big thing is movies.

So a TB is NOT a lot. I would be safe with 6-7TBs available.

[bizzy400]

around lets say 10 gigs a game max thats 180 games really now? and most games only take 6 gigs u feel and bet u PC is slow as shit

[EliteSlayer542]

I have a total of 164 games. I download a lot of mods and DLC for my games so it takes up more room.

And my PC is no where near "slow as shit". Used up hard drive space barely has any affect on performance.

My specs from a 1 year old custom built gaming rig:

Intel core i7-920 overclocked to 3GHz

GTX280 x 2 in SLI

6 gigs of DDR3 tri-channel ram

1000Watt XION Power Real PSU

Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB HDD x 2

256GB SSD Patriot Warp V3

[dragngt]

Granted everything I have isn't legal so I'm not being shitty but how many non professionals and non torrenting people really need more than 1TB of storage? 6-7TB? I'd be set with 2TB for a LONG time. I have large res photos in iPhoto and 1080p video off my camcorder. But I'd still have room.

Now if I put just my movies in one computer (at original size) I'd need 5TB just for movies.

[EliteSlayer542]

I have a 256Gb SSD drive from Partiot and It SEVERELY cuts the boot up time. Windows 7 boots and is 100% usable in about 13 seconds!

SSD is also MUCH more reliable and MUCH less lightly to fail. So I have my OS and my main programs like my Adobe software and anti virus.

As for putting all my files on SSDs well, were not there yet.

[bizzy400]

i have 2 of those 256GB using RAID and i use all my files on it

[EliteSlayer542]

TWO?

that must of been expensive as shit! there like 1000$ for ONE.

Besides, that only gives you 512GBs of storage, not much.

BTW what raid mode are they in?

[Vagmonster666]

i would love to put ssd in my laptop but its to much atm

[Airportchris2]

Why would you want to launch all your programs at the same time anyway?

[TheAmefist]

Not, all I have games running browsers in the bg photoshop all this stuff in the bg it is for multi tasking

[Airportchris2]

Well, I have 1 to 3 programs open at once, as far as background stuff, I don't really have anything other than the stuff that always runs in the background.

[TheAmefist]

I think it is for people with multiple screens and like it said people with antivirus or something running in the background should get it.

[Airportchris2]

Well, I have a/v running in the background.

I think of a SSD as a really big thumb/flash drive.

[skunky1112]

ssd sucks :P

[Airportchris2]

I am still not so trusting of a SSD drive.

[linkinpain]

SSD's are so expensive i would love to have one on my macbook but hell no im not paying 400 dollars for 80gb's ~_~