If you think WKlitschko can't fight on the inside watch what he did to Derrek Jefferson & Monte Barrett. WK can do something that VK can't do: 3 Punch Combinations + explosive left hook. Quite frankly people are overrating Haye way too much & forgetting that Klitschko has real KO power, Haye is not going to feel like he's being hit by a featherpillow. Steward is overrated as a trainer at least as far as WK goes. I liked WK's style while trained by Sdunek but ES turned him into boring Lennoxlewis
i agree with most of what u said. def think wlad is much weaker than vitali. Just referrin to when david had signed to fight wlad. the reason he pulled out of the fight, blaming an injury was because the television company setanta sports david had signed a contract with, went bankrupt. Therefore the haye wud have made very little money from it. it didnt make financial sense. Now he is on a level par with the klitschkos at the negotiating table. they need to fight haye to unify the belts
great video.... i think both brothers should be respected for what they have done and that is fought everyone out there practicly and between the pair of them they have managed to choose which one either fights to suit their styles. Take Haye for instance he wants to fight Wlad but everytime he mentions it within days Vitali is jumping in calling him out.. i know loads will disagree but for me Haye beats Wlad but Vitali beats Haye and i think Vitali knows it too.Vitalis the better out the two.
But at the end of the day..Wladimir DOES get the KO right? He's only gone the distance one time in the last how many years?? In fact I believe there has only been a few opponents able to answer the final bell. If he were from the US there would be a total different response from the bullshit so called "American press" . Like that asshole from HBO Greenberg who stopped airing both brothers fights. (I dumped HBO long ago). One person made the choice for million there. Totally not right.
If Corrie Sanders was younger, he would knock Wladimir out again. Vitaly is a different story. He can exchange punchers like he did with Corrie and Lewis. Wladimir can't exchange punchers. He is a boring fighter. He can jab and is very cautious in the ring because of his glass jaw. And he has the ring belt? Vitaly is the real heavyweight champ.
@Kharlamov16 Wladimir has defended his title 10x what more does he have to do to get respect 55-3 49KO's and many were undefeated and number 1 contenders Vitali is the one that picking easy defenses i do think vitali is better but wladimir has had a much more respectable reign then his older brother.
@DarthMuse I don't care about his reign at all. I don't like the way he fights. If Lennox Lewis returned, he would knock Wladimir out in the first round.
i agree wlad has a prettier style than vitali, but vitali is a much better fighter in my opinion, he's more versatile & tougher mentally & physically & he throws alot more punches. emanuel is the one who made wladimir do all this holding by the way, it was something lennox lewis used to do (when he could get away with it). emanuel took that blueprint he had with lennox & got wladimir to do the same thing- if u notice before wlad was with steward he wasnt doing much holding at all
@HatmanTV Hi, I agree Emanuel Steward is the person who taught Wladimir to clinch - I thing if you look at the Charles Shufford Wladimir Klitschko bout, you see an almost martial-arts style arm blocking defense from Wlad. I think Steward knows how best to get him winning (just looking at the record proves that) but it really is being done in the extreme lately. Emanuel was talking about Lewis recently being the best he's trained, previously he'd said Wlad was, I wonder how long b4 he leaves.
yes i heard him say that, but i personally wouldnt read too much into that in terms of there being any kind of rift between him & wlad...he said wlad is more talented but lewis was more versatile & was able to use the talent he had more effectively in the ring,thus making lewis the better fighter overall- if that makes sense? i think i know what he was getting at. its like comparing wlad to vitali, wlad is more talented than vitali, but vitali is the better fighter
if there was signs of a rift it was during the build up to the haye fight (before haye pulled out) & between rounds during the eddie chambers fight, where he was angry with wlad for not opeing up & wlad told him to "chill out"
emanuel loves aggressive fighters,when asked what he thought about the infamous decapitation t-shirt he said "i think its great" he admired hayes brash cocky nature & his aggression in the ring (at the time) wlads cautious nature certainly frustrates him
@HatmanTV Yeah, I know the cracks are there more than ever now, I remember in the Haye/Klitschko possibility, Steward was comparing Haye's publicity grabbing tactics to Ali's method - minus the humor that Ali had in abundance. I wouldn't be surprised to see Steward go with Haye or Solis next depending how much longer he wants to go with Wladimir. I get the impression Steward sees amazing displays from Wlad in the gym that just don't bear any resemblance to fight night and the nerves Wlad has.
@Almuric7 i cant see that happening Emanuel Steward wont leave Wladimir Klitschko no way cant see that happening but i do agree with Vitali being a better fighter but sometimes he lacks to let his hands go aswell.
i know what you mean every fighter that Wlad has faced then Vitali has faced has done much better but if you look at Peter when he fought Vitali he was way out of shape over 250 when Peter fought Wlad he was at 240 in better shape thats what you gotta really look at.
@DarthMuse I think people rate Wlad higher than Klitschko essentially because he has a more American style than Vitali, and that he won the Olympic gold - they forget the only reason Vitali didn't clean up with a gold before him was that he'd tested positive for a steroid in a medication he was given for a damaged knee. The amount was a trace, nothing performance enhancing, but still stopped his entry to the games. Vitali's style is more a hark-back to Bob Fitzsimmons and guys like that to.
Samuel Peter is tough and can just walk through punchers his better then people give him credit for his only really lost to the Klitschko Brothers and Eddie Chambers who is fast and couldn't even put a glove on Wladimir.
@DarthMuse you've made some good points in your posts; not least regarding the better shape Sam Peter was in compared to the Vitali bout - I just feel Wlad Klitschko is looking awful in fights and that his style could be a liability for a fighter with fast footwork and upper-body movement - you're right about Haye's chin too, he was down on the canvas against Mormeck and showed a lack of stamina gainst another cruiserweight, Carl Thompson - so yeah Haye's fragile too.
i think wladimir is still improving where has vitali has never really had a big setback in his career other then Byrd because i dont think Lewis was a setback because he was facing undisputed champion and theres no shame in a loss.
actully almuric7 i heard samuel peter was training for Wladimir Klitschko because peter thought Povetkin wouldn't fight so Peter was already in the gym skysports said this im just bringing up.
hey dude i agree with you that vitali seems to win his fights more impressivly but Wladimir i feel has had the much better reign and defenses his fought top guys Vitali recently has been taking it easy abit he was great when he first came back real good in 2009 vitali was but wladimir has beaten him imo this year in 2010.
@DarthMuse Excuse me, Wladimir has fought top guys? Vitaly is twice as good as his brother. Period. Has Wladimir fought Areola and Lennox Lewis? Vitaly has. If Wladimir can beat somebody like fat Peter or Chris Byrd who can't punch at all. That's his problems. He wouldn't have lasted a round against Lewis. A boxer who can only jab and doesn't fight inside is not a good boxer. Vitaly is number one. Wladimir is not. He hasn't been anle to learn how to throw uppercuts so far.
@DarthMuse I just don't know why Wladimir has the Ring Belt. It doesn't make any sense. Vitaly should have it. He avenged his brother's losses and now Wladimir is the best heavyweight. I can't help wondering.
If you think WKlitschko can't fight on the inside watch what he did to Derrek Jefferson & Monte Barrett. WK can do something that VK can't do: 3 Punch Combinations + explosive left hook. Quite frankly people are overrating Haye way too much & forgetting that Klitschko has real KO power, Haye is not going to feel like he's being hit by a featherpillow. Steward is overrated as a trainer at least as far as WK goes. I liked WK's style while trained by Sdunek but ES turned him into boring Lennoxlewis
oeyesea 8 months ago
i agree with most of what u said. def think wlad is much weaker than vitali. Just referrin to when david had signed to fight wlad. the reason he pulled out of the fight, blaming an injury was because the television company setanta sports david had signed a contract with, went bankrupt. Therefore the haye wud have made very little money from it. it didnt make financial sense. Now he is on a level par with the klitschkos at the negotiating table. they need to fight haye to unify the belts
smu02ns 1 year ago
great video.... i think both brothers should be respected for what they have done and that is fought everyone out there practicly and between the pair of them they have managed to choose which one either fights to suit their styles. Take Haye for instance he wants to fight Wlad but everytime he mentions it within days Vitali is jumping in calling him out.. i know loads will disagree but for me Haye beats Wlad but Vitali beats Haye and i think Vitali knows it too.Vitalis the better out the two.
truecreation 1 year ago
But at the end of the day..Wladimir DOES get the KO right? He's only gone the distance one time in the last how many years?? In fact I believe there has only been a few opponents able to answer the final bell. If he were from the US there would be a total different response from the bullshit so called "American press" . Like that asshole from HBO Greenberg who stopped airing both brothers fights. (I dumped HBO long ago). One person made the choice for million there. Totally not right.
shupe1907 1 year ago
he w ill fight them on the way down, butthe general publuc werent know that, even if the k's are 50
dammage7 1 year ago
thats y haye wants wladamir 1st over vitali
dammage7 1 year ago
If Corrie Sanders was younger, he would knock Wladimir out again. Vitaly is a different story. He can exchange punchers like he did with Corrie and Lewis. Wladimir can't exchange punchers. He is a boring fighter. He can jab and is very cautious in the ring because of his glass jaw. And he has the ring belt? Vitaly is the real heavyweight champ.
Kharlamov16 1 year ago
@Kharlamov16 no he wouldn't this shows your ingonrance lol wladimir is much better then sanders now
DarthMuse 1 year ago
@Kharlamov16 Wladimir has defended his title 10x what more does he have to do to get respect 55-3 49KO's and many were undefeated and number 1 contenders Vitali is the one that picking easy defenses i do think vitali is better but wladimir has had a much more respectable reign then his older brother.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
@DarthMuse I don't care about his reign at all. I don't like the way he fights. If Lennox Lewis returned, he would knock Wladimir out in the first round.
Kharlamov16 1 year ago
@DarthMuse hes got a bad back bitch eh ??? lmao
madscanman1 1 year ago
@madscanman1 nope his tore his abdominal muscle.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
@Almuric7
i agree wlad has a prettier style than vitali, but vitali is a much better fighter in my opinion, he's more versatile & tougher mentally & physically & he throws alot more punches. emanuel is the one who made wladimir do all this holding by the way, it was something lennox lewis used to do (when he could get away with it). emanuel took that blueprint he had with lennox & got wladimir to do the same thing- if u notice before wlad was with steward he wasnt doing much holding at all
HatmanTV 1 year ago
@HatmanTV Hi, I agree Emanuel Steward is the person who taught Wladimir to clinch - I thing if you look at the Charles Shufford Wladimir Klitschko bout, you see an almost martial-arts style arm blocking defense from Wlad. I think Steward knows how best to get him winning (just looking at the record proves that) but it really is being done in the extreme lately. Emanuel was talking about Lewis recently being the best he's trained, previously he'd said Wlad was, I wonder how long b4 he leaves.
Almuric7 1 year ago
@Almuric7
yes i heard him say that, but i personally wouldnt read too much into that in terms of there being any kind of rift between him & wlad...he said wlad is more talented but lewis was more versatile & was able to use the talent he had more effectively in the ring,thus making lewis the better fighter overall- if that makes sense? i think i know what he was getting at. its like comparing wlad to vitali, wlad is more talented than vitali, but vitali is the better fighter
HatmanTV 1 year ago
@Almuric7
if there was signs of a rift it was during the build up to the haye fight (before haye pulled out) & between rounds during the eddie chambers fight, where he was angry with wlad for not opeing up & wlad told him to "chill out"
emanuel loves aggressive fighters,when asked what he thought about the infamous decapitation t-shirt he said "i think its great" he admired hayes brash cocky nature & his aggression in the ring (at the time) wlads cautious nature certainly frustrates him
HatmanTV 1 year ago
@HatmanTV Yeah, I know the cracks are there more than ever now, I remember in the Haye/Klitschko possibility, Steward was comparing Haye's publicity grabbing tactics to Ali's method - minus the humor that Ali had in abundance. I wouldn't be surprised to see Steward go with Haye or Solis next depending how much longer he wants to go with Wladimir. I get the impression Steward sees amazing displays from Wlad in the gym that just don't bear any resemblance to fight night and the nerves Wlad has.
Almuric7 1 year ago
@Almuric7 i cant see that happening Emanuel Steward wont leave Wladimir Klitschko no way cant see that happening but i do agree with Vitali being a better fighter but sometimes he lacks to let his hands go aswell.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
dude u are wrong! Klitschkos are amasing! Wladimir is amasing, he was tired because he was having sex with Hayden right before the fight LOL
forexistentialistics 1 year ago
i know what you mean every fighter that Wlad has faced then Vitali has faced has done much better but if you look at Peter when he fought Vitali he was way out of shape over 250 when Peter fought Wlad he was at 240 in better shape thats what you gotta really look at.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
@DarthMuse I think people rate Wlad higher than Klitschko essentially because he has a more American style than Vitali, and that he won the Olympic gold - they forget the only reason Vitali didn't clean up with a gold before him was that he'd tested positive for a steroid in a medication he was given for a damaged knee. The amount was a trace, nothing performance enhancing, but still stopped his entry to the games. Vitali's style is more a hark-back to Bob Fitzsimmons and guys like that to.
Almuric7 1 year ago
Samuel Peter is tough and can just walk through punchers his better then people give him credit for his only really lost to the Klitschko Brothers and Eddie Chambers who is fast and couldn't even put a glove on Wladimir.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
@DarthMuse you've made some good points in your posts; not least regarding the better shape Sam Peter was in compared to the Vitali bout - I just feel Wlad Klitschko is looking awful in fights and that his style could be a liability for a fighter with fast footwork and upper-body movement - you're right about Haye's chin too, he was down on the canvas against Mormeck and showed a lack of stamina gainst another cruiserweight, Carl Thompson - so yeah Haye's fragile too.
Almuric7 1 year ago
i think wladimir is still improving where has vitali has never really had a big setback in his career other then Byrd because i dont think Lewis was a setback because he was facing undisputed champion and theres no shame in a loss.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
my opinon is David Haye wont beat Wladimir Klitschko because the reason Haye has a terrible chin and wladimir always lands first on his a opponents.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
actully almuric7 i heard samuel peter was training for Wladimir Klitschko because peter thought Povetkin wouldn't fight so Peter was already in the gym skysports said this im just bringing up.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
hey dude i agree with you that vitali seems to win his fights more impressivly but Wladimir i feel has had the much better reign and defenses his fought top guys Vitali recently has been taking it easy abit he was great when he first came back real good in 2009 vitali was but wladimir has beaten him imo this year in 2010.
DarthMuse 1 year ago
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Kharlamov16 1 year ago
@DarthMuse Excuse me, Wladimir has fought top guys? Vitaly is twice as good as his brother. Period. Has Wladimir fought Areola and Lennox Lewis? Vitaly has. If Wladimir can beat somebody like fat Peter or Chris Byrd who can't punch at all. That's his problems. He wouldn't have lasted a round against Lewis. A boxer who can only jab and doesn't fight inside is not a good boxer. Vitaly is number one. Wladimir is not. He hasn't been anle to learn how to throw uppercuts so far.
Kharlamov16 1 year ago
@Kharlamov16 i agree vitali is better but not by much
DarthMuse 1 year ago
@DarthMuse I just don't know why Wladimir has the Ring Belt. It doesn't make any sense. Vitaly should have it. He avenged his brother's losses and now Wladimir is the best heavyweight. I can't help wondering.
Kharlamov16 1 year ago
think there styles both suit thre own style's and trainers because Vitali and Wladimir are winning all there fights dominatly.
DarthMuse 1 year ago