thanks for answering all these questions. you have been very informative and cool.
I just made my own home studio, making acoustics fitting for recording drums, piano and I got a pair of ns10 with a hafler amp, and I intend to make my music here. I recorded two tracks already and I would love to have your opinion about them. any way I can contact you outside this video? e-mail? facebook?
@ShablulZoem Hey, the Rhodes was DI, but to 1/2" 8-track tape and we hit the tape really hard to get a lot of saturation. Don't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure all we did for the guitar was put an SM57 in front of the amp. I think a big part of the overall sound comes from the room mic, though. That was a sony C48 in the middle of the room, pointed at the floor in omni, then slammed in british mode in an 1176 before going to tape. Check out Beastly - it's loudest in that mix.
@ShablulZoem Yeah, when you press down all the ratio buttons on the 1176 at once it creates a rich, distorted, non-linear compression that's very musical. That's what I've always heard referred to as "British Mode". Slammed just means that it was heavily compressed, in this case, it was over the threshold the whole time.
@ShablulZoem The sound of the rhodes on the intro is is the room mic (1176 british mode) to tape with only a little EQ. You can see where the mic is placed as the camera pans over to the rhodes before the song starts.
@jmerkin so the rhodes weren't DI... you remember perhaps which amp you used to amp it? this is a great reference for sound and I got a seventy three rhodes - I want to find an amp for it. you guys are really cool btw, you study audio engineering or something there?
@ShablulZoem The rhodes was DI'ed, but for the sake of the players and balance in the room mic it was also put out an amp. Not sure what kind (roland I think), but the reason it's just the room mic at the beginning is that there's nothing else playing - when drums/band come in, there's barely any rhodes in the room mic. Thx for watching. This was part of my thesis for my BFA in performing arts technology at U of M.
@ShablulZoem not totally sure. Maybe your speakers are backwards? I'm hearing it in the left I think. If you're referring to the hissy high frequency swells (two of them), I was feeding the delay return back into the delay and turning up and down the send from the return during mixing to create that texture. So, in those moments the delay feeds back into itself.
@ShablulZoem yeah, you can hear it get initiated by the rhodes as he does that little pickup to the top of the bar before the hiss enters. Thanks for all these questions - keep em coming!
@ShablulZoem It was mono. Any stereo imaging comes from the overheads. I balanced the two mics during recording to get the timbre I wanted and printed the combo to one track of tape, so the signal I'm mixing is a combination of those two mics (in mono).
@ShablulZoem I wouldn't think so. Even beyond the coloration that the tape adds (and all the other outboard analogue gear - api vision, compressors, plate reverb, analogue delay, etc.), I am certain that we would have made different music if it were recorded digitally. These guys only had two or three takes at most to nail this live. There was no editing, and there was a spontaneity that would not have survived the digital process. Sonically, though, the tape does a lot.
I just watched "Beastly" and I think I recall seeing everyone on different instruments except from the bassist. But it looks like you are playing the instruments you were playing from the start. You talented beasts! Some serious tunes by the way. Love 'em.
a good 300 of those views have been me. how did you get the snare and kick to sound so good? i noticed that some kind of cloth over the snare head and the batter side of the kick?
@paulgarciamusic Thx, I'm glad you're into the sound. Of course, sound is always a team effort. The drummer contributes a lot, as does the kit, as do the mics, the pres, the medium, and the mix engineer. We recorded these onto the first 4 tracks of a 1/2" 8 track @ 15ips. Mics used were D2 & beta 52 on kit, printed to one track; SM57 & 451 on snare, again to one track; 414s on OH with a 121 for center image, printed L/R to two tracks. There was also a Sony C48 in omni, in the middle of the
@paulgarciamusic ...group, pointed at the floor and slammed, in british mode through an 1176. All was mixed through an API vision. All recorded through API pres with OHs filtered and notch added @ 1kHz @ 2db, also had SPL transient designer adding sustain, Snare notch boosted 2db @ 3kHz, and Kick shelf added 4 db @ 100Hz. Kit was a toy kit, broken, vintage cymbals, and no resonant heads save for the snare. All drums had fabric stretched under the heads and the drummer played pretty quietly.
thanks for answering all these questions. you have been very informative and cool.
I just made my own home studio, making acoustics fitting for recording drums, piano and I got a pair of ns10 with a hafler amp, and I intend to make my music here. I recorded two tracks already and I would love to have your opinion about them. any way I can contact you outside this video? e-mail? facebook?
ShablulZoem 1 week ago
how did you record the rhodes and guitar? rhodes DI or amp? and which mic used for the guitar?
ShablulZoem 2 weeks ago
@ShablulZoem Hey, the Rhodes was DI, but to 1/2" 8-track tape and we hit the tape really hard to get a lot of saturation. Don't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure all we did for the guitar was put an SM57 in front of the amp. I think a big part of the overall sound comes from the room mic, though. That was a sony C48 in the middle of the room, pointed at the floor in omni, then slammed in british mode in an 1176 before going to tape. Check out Beastly - it's loudest in that mix.
jmerkin 2 weeks ago
@jmerkin what do you mean by slammed in british mode? hard compression?
ShablulZoem 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem Yeah, when you press down all the ratio buttons on the 1176 at once it creates a rich, distorted, non-linear compression that's very musical. That's what I've always heard referred to as "British Mode". Slammed just means that it was heavily compressed, in this case, it was over the threshold the whole time.
jmerkin 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem The sound of the rhodes on the intro is is the room mic (1176 british mode) to tape with only a little EQ. You can see where the mic is placed as the camera pans over to the rhodes before the song starts.
jmerkin 1 week ago
@jmerkin so the rhodes weren't DI... you remember perhaps which amp you used to amp it? this is a great reference for sound and I got a seventy three rhodes - I want to find an amp for it. you guys are really cool btw, you study audio engineering or something there?
ShablulZoem 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem The rhodes was DI'ed, but for the sake of the players and balance in the room mic it was also put out an amp. Not sure what kind (roland I think), but the reason it's just the room mic at the beginning is that there's nothing else playing - when drums/band come in, there's barely any rhodes in the room mic. Thx for watching. This was part of my thesis for my BFA in performing arts technology at U of M.
jmerkin 1 week ago
@jmerkin and what's going on in 2:11 in the right side?
ShablulZoem 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem not totally sure. Maybe your speakers are backwards? I'm hearing it in the left I think. If you're referring to the hissy high frequency swells (two of them), I was feeding the delay return back into the delay and turning up and down the send from the return during mixing to create that texture. So, in those moments the delay feeds back into itself.
jmerkin 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem yeah, you can hear it get initiated by the rhodes as he does that little pickup to the top of the bar before the hiss enters. Thanks for all these questions - keep em coming!
jmerkin 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem or check out the drum break, it comes up slowly throughout the break.
jmerkin 2 weeks ago
@jmerkin the snare is in stereo? you panned the c451 and sm57?
ShablulZoem 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem It was mono. Any stereo imaging comes from the overheads. I balanced the two mics during recording to get the timbre I wanted and printed the combo to one track of tape, so the signal I'm mixing is a combination of those two mics (in mono).
jmerkin 1 week ago
@jmerkin how you do it? can you do it in a DAW setting?
ShablulZoem 1 week ago
@ShablulZoem I wouldn't think so. Even beyond the coloration that the tape adds (and all the other outboard analogue gear - api vision, compressors, plate reverb, analogue delay, etc.), I am certain that we would have made different music if it were recorded digitally. These guys only had two or three takes at most to nail this live. There was no editing, and there was a spontaneity that would not have survived the digital process. Sonically, though, the tape does a lot.
jmerkin 1 week ago
Where do you get all this amazing equipment?! wth.
ShablulZoem 3 weeks ago
@ShablulZoem University of Michigan and friends and ebay.
jmerkin 2 weeks ago
Sounds like it belongs on skate!
TinfoilGrillz 1 month ago
like the crazy laugh at 2.30 hahah
Johaneeeek 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
the heads on your snare and bass drum are just too perfect...
Kobe10032 2 months ago
what keyboard is that?
weshlkoh 2 months ago
@weshlkoh If I'm correct, it's a Fender "Rhodes" model.
TheWalkingSpace 2 months ago
I just watched "Beastly" and I think I recall seeing everyone on different instruments except from the bassist. But it looks like you are playing the instruments you were playing from the start. You talented beasts! Some serious tunes by the way. Love 'em.
RHtonyflowCP 3 months ago
a good 300 of those views have been me. how did you get the snare and kick to sound so good? i noticed that some kind of cloth over the snare head and the batter side of the kick?
paulgarciamusic 3 months ago 2
@paulgarciamusic Thx, I'm glad you're into the sound. Of course, sound is always a team effort. The drummer contributes a lot, as does the kit, as do the mics, the pres, the medium, and the mix engineer. We recorded these onto the first 4 tracks of a 1/2" 8 track @ 15ips. Mics used were D2 & beta 52 on kit, printed to one track; SM57 & 451 on snare, again to one track; 414s on OH with a 121 for center image, printed L/R to two tracks. There was also a Sony C48 in omni, in the middle of the
jmerkin 3 months ago 3
@paulgarciamusic ...group, pointed at the floor and slammed, in british mode through an 1176. All was mixed through an API vision. All recorded through API pres with OHs filtered and notch added @ 1kHz @ 2db, also had SPL transient designer adding sustain, Snare notch boosted 2db @ 3kHz, and Kick shelf added 4 db @ 100Hz. Kit was a toy kit, broken, vintage cymbals, and no resonant heads save for the snare. All drums had fabric stretched under the heads and the drummer played pretty quietly.
jmerkin 3 months ago 3
snare sounds ok. rest of the kit sounds like wet cardboard boxes. .
ian40 5 months ago
Notes please
Jont93 5 months ago
this is so good
it makes me feel crazy things
lucidzirkus 6 months ago
Did a dog chew off that crash cymbal?
Nikk02 6 months ago
Never seen a cymbal with a piece cut off in such a way (the one with a K). What does it do sonically?
polysmart 7 months ago
@polysmart it makes it sound like a piece of trash, which is why it's so funky :D
samuelock 5 months ago
Please make an album I will buy it for sure.
ta1235711 7 months ago
Vulfpeck are my new favorite band :D
HighDrummer1 8 months ago 33
My head just exploded,the 6th time,and this is the first time that i watch this.
Do you have an album?
omrix2 8 months ago 13
i cant stop watching this.
MrCoconutsack 8 months ago
Insane groovy dudes! just ingenious something like that!
TeAmGrEnByTeZ 9 months ago
You boys must love makin' love makin' music.
loffer86 9 months ago 3
This video should have a million views. this is sooo good.
ChemicallAli 9 months ago
I love filming done like this; Great depth of field, great soulful music :) Love it!
Drummingisme 9 months ago
2:22 look at Theo in the backround! That's amazing!
Jutschi1 9 months ago
Who are they? Any album, EPs?
KhanShin 9 months ago
nice. great groove! love the zoom in on the kick drum.
FunkyFarmerNewsic 9 months ago