I think at 150* - 160* you would be loseing water as steem.
it would be nice if there was also a PWM available with a temp. probe. to thermostaticly adgust to keep the water from steeming off.
water vapor in with your HHO gas might not be a bad thing.
but if theres too much it will cool your cylinder tems and exaust too much!
maybe when your lazer says your cells ate up to temp you could also moniter exaust manifold and cat-converter temps to see if theres too much cooling from the lost water.
You are losing way too much electrolyte. USE DISTILLED VINEGAR! For me, not a drop lost in 2 weeks of tests. The EPA will have your cahones if they catch you disposing of your lye either on the ground or down the drain. Please be careful! So many folks are using lye. It's just a matter of time before legislation makes it illegal to use lye in a HHO vehicle due to the possibility of a spill during a car crash. We have to protect our ideas from activists with deep pockets. Please be careful.
I dont want to discourage you. You have a plan and it may work. But you have missed a couple key elements in the construction of a series cell. In particular, sealing the plate edges against current leakage. You could make a significant improvment in your efficiency by doing this. Zero did a series on this early in his VSPB series. It works. More current gets forced through your plates instead of doing an end run around.
I believe that to be very correct, but my current vessel prohibits me to do that. (lack of room inside) I've thought about taking an idea that i've seen and use split vinyl tubing to use for that. A simple solution to all of the marine goop inside the electrolyte. Only a fraction would be used. The video was just showing how I constructed my plate configuration to try to slow down the generated heat.
you might try some of that heat shrink material that Smacks has been suggesting ... can get it from McMaster-Carr ... once shrunk to your plate stack, its pretty thin so wont take much room in your container ... some have reported pretty good results with it ... and its cheap enough so if it dont work and you end up cutting it off, not much lost ...
Yes, am one of the guilty one for not using quality connections "at the plates". Luckily I am still early enough in my development that I have not had any of my plate configurations inside a sealed container yet. So no unplanned explosions 'yet'. ;-)
I am also discovering that managing heat generation in an HHO cell can be a significant problem.
I think at 150* - 160* you would be loseing water as steem.
it would be nice if there was also a PWM available with a temp. probe. to thermostaticly adgust to keep the water from steeming off.
water vapor in with your HHO gas might not be a bad thing.
but if theres too much it will cool your cylinder tems and exaust too much!
maybe when your lazer says your cells ate up to temp you could also moniter exaust manifold and cat-converter temps to see if theres too much cooling from the lost water.
davidrrrd 3 years ago
You are losing way too much electrolyte. USE DISTILLED VINEGAR! For me, not a drop lost in 2 weeks of tests. The EPA will have your cahones if they catch you disposing of your lye either on the ground or down the drain. Please be careful! So many folks are using lye. It's just a matter of time before legislation makes it illegal to use lye in a HHO vehicle due to the possibility of a spill during a car crash. We have to protect our ideas from activists with deep pockets. Please be careful.
excell4God 3 years ago
I forgot to say in this video, which is important, I also have my SS threaded rod all sleeved up with vinyl tubing.
scotchrks 3 years ago
I dont want to discourage you. You have a plan and it may work. But you have missed a couple key elements in the construction of a series cell. In particular, sealing the plate edges against current leakage. You could make a significant improvment in your efficiency by doing this. Zero did a series on this early in his VSPB series. It works. More current gets forced through your plates instead of doing an end run around.
keep at it, be well ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
I believe that to be very correct, but my current vessel prohibits me to do that. (lack of room inside) I've thought about taking an idea that i've seen and use split vinyl tubing to use for that. A simple solution to all of the marine goop inside the electrolyte. Only a fraction would be used. The video was just showing how I constructed my plate configuration to try to slow down the generated heat.
scotchrks 3 years ago
you might try some of that heat shrink material that Smacks has been suggesting ... can get it from McMaster-Carr ... once shrunk to your plate stack, its pretty thin so wont take much room in your container ... some have reported pretty good results with it ... and its cheap enough so if it dont work and you end up cutting it off, not much lost ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
heat killed my last 2 wire cells,
but scotchrks has let us peek at his homework and so we can see heat is an avoidable problem.
I noticed many just take the gas generation gains with the heat and run with it by opting for cooling systems instead.
last comments on video scotchrks asks about water leavel maintanence,
maybe a resevour as a bubbler or before your bubbler could keep it full (total imertion)
smoky40 developed an automatic filling system for the 60 mpg ford escort wagon and sateren.
davidrrrd 3 years ago
Yes, am one of the guilty one for not using quality connections "at the plates". Luckily I am still early enough in my development that I have not had any of my plate configurations inside a sealed container yet. So no unplanned explosions 'yet'. ;-)
I am also discovering that managing heat generation in an HHO cell can be a significant problem.
What are you using for PWM?
lutherp40 3 years ago