I have to agree with Albert Jay Nock, it has never been shown that having a majority of the population literate is any boon for society. The main reason to push literacy, from a State perspective, is to make people more receptive to various modes of propagandizing and impressioning. Obviously the ability to manipulate symbols for communication does have some technical advantage to it, but one has to keep in mind the marginal productivity of an increase in literacy vs. an increase in other skills
You kind of look like Leon Trotsky. lol....no offense intended.
And when people say something along the lines of "Can you write? Thank a teacher" I politely inform them that my mother taught me how to write and not a public school teacher.
You're making some false assumptions about the nature of what a teacher is. Not all teaching is coercive. Not all teachers are dictators who bend children to their will. (Look into Montessori). The public school system does monopolize education and attempt to force competitors out. If you are literate, you must have been taught that regardless of the method. If you have gained anything from being literate than that is something to be thankful for.
One more thought: How much would you now know, had you not been taught how to read and write? Would you have been able to access the wealth of works of philosophy that you have? Would you be able to even manipulate a computer? The wrong doing that irritates you is the choice your parents made to educate you in a manner which denied you humanity. It is not a universal ill of teachers or of education.
If possible I would like you to compile a list of books you recommend reading. I would be very interested to know what you think is worth to spend scarce time on.
I can't believe your pissed off for people teaching you how to write. Are you pissed at your parents for teaching you English instead of offering many languages for your apparently well formed and rational mind developed at such a young age to choose from? And its not like the sticker said "can you ride a bike backwards while juggling? Thank a teacher." For that I would understand your point because its a useless skill, but writing is kind of important. Just a little bit.
@19markle19 "I can't believe your pissed off for people teaching you how to write."
It seems like you kind of missed the point. People have taught me many things through voluntary, peaceful interaction with me, and I've taught myself many things as well. I don't like that children are forced to learn what authority figures threaten them into learning and then those same children are expected to be THANKFUL about it as adults.
@XOmniverse alright I can see that point. Lets assume that children were never forced to learn how to write when they entered school. Instead the teachers told them that when they felt like learning how to write they would be there to teach them. So what does the child do? Well he's a child so all he really cares about is playing with stuff and annoying girls. Now he's probably content to do this for quite a few years, since he's a child and all and doesn't know what is good for him yet, ...
@19markle19 and so the teacher will have to keep waiting to teach him how to write, and Im assuming that reading is also part of this as well. Now I said something in that last post that Im sure you're going to jump all over: "since he's a child and doesn't know what is good for him yet". When you're a child most parents have their kids eat fruits and vegetables. Why? Because they are essential for the child to grow and be healthy. This is however not always the case, as exemplified by the...
@19markle19 skyrocket in child obesity over the last few years. Now imagine that all the fat on those children could be a metaphor for the "fat" on a child's brain that cannot read or write. What you are left with is a generation of children that, because their parents love them so much and let them decide when they want to learn how to read and write, have become obese in their minds and cannot function in accord with society. Learning to read and write is the greatest git you will ever receive
@19markle19 Your analysis is based on assumptions about children and their natural desires which are basically false, and even empirically so (children that are not controlled do not naturally feel a desire to avoid learning, for example; the desire to avoid learning arises from authority figures imposing learning on them forcefully).
I'd recommend reading some of the books by John Holt, such as How Children Fail.
Hey , I bet you would never see a bumper sticker that says"a high school graduate and you work at mcdonalds? thank a teacher!" or " A high school graduate, and a border line illiterate? Thank a teacher!"
Teachers simply teach the basics and it's really down to the reader to grasp the complexity of the language
Until I was 14 I was a terrible reader. Teachers spent years trying to get me to learn. It wasn't till I got a computer and started reading the encyclopedia that I started to find it easy. Thinking back at it, of how the teachers tried, it was all really quite stupid. All we did was read fantasy books and write silly sentences. When All I needed was to read facts, history, science, ect
@doford Yes indeed. I think you've highlighted a fundamental flaw in the school system: namely that each individual person will have different interests (how to learn stuff as well as what to learn), there's no way to tailor that to a class of people.
So even if they somehow only had people who were interested in the subject, it's hard to learn anything past the basics efficiently, because people's interests in specific problems or aspects of the field will start diverging more and more.
Although I do think children are coerced to go to school, and I do think that school is typically not an enviroment conduive to useful learning, I don't think it can be called kidnapping... I mean the parents choose to send the kids to the school no? Unless you call the parents keeping the kids in their home, or taking them on holiday with them kidnapping too?
@XOmniverse But by that logic anybody who raises a child is kidnapping the child. Presumably you agree that until a certain point a child cannot look after itself...?
Not that I disagree with the logic of your video or anything but I don't know about that comparison. There a very clear definition between a parent and a slave master. I say this to the extent that parents generally do allow their kids here and there bits of freedom when it comes to choice on certain things like uh what sports they want to try out or what art form they might take up. I might be way off here too. Feedback would be cool
On one hand its immoral but on the other what they taught was really useful so I am thankful. If there was some way to listen to kids and figure out what they want, and show them the value of reading/writing before they were capable, I would be in favour of it. But that seems kind of impossible, so forcing them seems necessary just because you can't really function in society without reading/writing skills. They did it with the best intentions anyways, so I can't be angry at them
@radscorpion8 "But that seems kind of impossible"; is this opinion based on any kind of study on the subject? It seems to me that, if you haven't researched homeschooling/unschooling/etc., you're being awfully quick to jump to the option of coercing kids (physically if necessary) for me to genuinely believe that you are doing so with strong feelings of regret.
@XOmniverse Actually, to be honest, I don't really regret it because I didn't see it as really a slave-master relationship but more of a guiding hand that showed me what was good to learn before I was really capable of seeing the benefits for myself X years down the road (its convenient in my mind). But you're right..I didn't actually do much research, I just thought about it and it seemed unrealistic to expect kids to choose what they want to learn when they're five years old or so.
@RPFS2008 Not just WW2 vets. Napoleon, the Spanish Inquisition, Britain's other wars, to say nothing of the current war on terror. It's hard to predict how these things would have gone had we lost, but certainly in some cases it would have resulted in our society being damaged or destroyed.
As for the Native Americans: d00d, computers and technology and medicine. Hell yeah I would be thankful for that. (I condemn their being treated badly initially, but it's definitely an improvement now.)
You can't thank Napolean or the Spanish Inquisition (I have no idea why'd you want to thank them anyway) - they aren't here, just being a soldier doesn't give you special powers to be thanked for something you didn't do. And the "War on Terror" has nothing to do with saving our society/language anyway.
There is no "we". "We" (people in a given geographical region) have had losses and victories all throughout history and have been shaped accordingly.
Maybe I am crazy but it's my view that you should get thanks and praise on merit - not for merely wearing a costume.
If Germany had won WW2 you would have added Hitler to that line up of yours. It makes no sense whatsoever just to lay a blanket of thanks at the feet of every historical figure or group that had a direct hand in the control and progression of a given patch of land. There are many cases where the wrong side won (& that includes ppl from these islands)
@RPFS2008 I think you missed my point. I was assuming you meant Hitler, and I was giving other examples of bad people that could have made our society awful. I'm not saying to thank Napoleon, I'm saying to thank the people who *stopped* him.
Being a soldier is not about wearing a suit. That's fashion models (although even they have certain skills like carrying their body in particular ways). Being a soldier requires being highly trained and engaging in life-threatening situations.
I saw a guy wearing a shirt that read "Can you read? Thank a teacher. Can you read in English? Thank a Marine." As if not knowing English would be some terrible thing...
@Americaleb Well, it would mean that you'd belong to a presumably worse society, with a violent dictator. In order to not live under a dictatorship, someone (e.g. a marine) would have to at some point stand up against it.
I have seen those signs before; they always amuse me because in my case it is so unambiguously not true—thank sanity for home-education and autonomous parenting. Good video, excellent points about incentive.
@RowanFortuneWood All I can say is the world is separated into two camps brainless ignorant morons and people who actually think and analyze. I'm glad I'm mostly friends with the thinking and analyzing people.
This is just my viewpoint, take it for what it is. I am now 17 and therefore could legally quit school. I go to a very fancy private school with many philoshophy classes and they actually teach me stuff I want to learn. The main idea they try to teach us now, is that we are at school to help ourselves, not for the teachers, not for parents. The teachers now are working for US. They emphasis the point that we don't have to be at school, it is simply voluntary.
I don't know how it happened in the US, but in the Habsburg (old Austrian) monarchy the compulsory schooling was introduced to force every subject into literacy, so as everybody to be able to read and understand e.g. the draft notice. More educated and self-confident civil society was only a by-product of the compulsory schooling. On the level of individuals, can you imagine anyone with education and self-confidence, who reached the two qualities without being previously coerced?
@danielsondanielson a child is educated and confident enough to get up off its hands and knees and onto its feet when they learn to walk. and i don't ever remember being coerced into learning to walk, do you?
@travis0629 With that walking it's right. But humans are probably genetically programmed to learn walking; unless some children are "nurtured" by cows or goats (rarely happens), they spontaneously imitate their older fellow-humans in the way of their locomotion. But is the same right about writing and reading? I'd think if you're coerced to learn it, you're more likely to learn it quickly enough to manage learning also further stuff in time to become a culturally competent and competitive adult.
@danielsondanielson well then i suppose you prefer to be forced into learning things. but then this is still your voluntary preference to have your preferences disregarded. i on the other hand enjoy learning things that i am genuinely interested in. and with these things i am more adamant about grasping them then any coercion could replicate. does that make sense?
@travis0629 No, I don't think so. I only wanted to say that educators generally can't do without coercion in teaching children basic literacy skills. You go too far and attribute me opinions that I don't have.
@danielsondanielson "More educated and self-confident civil society was only a by-product of the compulsory schooling. On the level of individuals, can you imagine anyone with education and self-confidence, who reached the two qualities without being previously coerced?"
this sounds like you saying education and self-confidence require coercion. of course if this is a mistake then i totally agree because that would be ridiculous
there is a referendum in my town right now to raise property taxes so the worksheet-distributing babysitters don't have to take cuts from their highly overpaid salaries (and by overpaid i mean above zero). the self-worship coming from the school corporation and the teachers is vomit worthy. without them, apparently, these kids will just be complete morons with no education. fucking outrageous.
oh that's very similar thing I encountered today in one forum lol. So this guy basically said to me that I should be thankful to our State of "free healthcare" etc (whatever that means) and if not, I should "forsake/refuse" it. I was speechless, like if I have an option to PRIVATE health insurance lol. Sometimes it seems that I just should avoid public (I mean not anarcho) forums at all because it actually is bad for my health :(
That bothered me as soon as I read the title... Actually, I learned before school. It's funny, I was just watching some unschooling videos, it really pissed me off that TYT thought "Oh, they're just gonna play wii all day, and not take showers.".
@ArandurKing909 Heh, yeah. That's basically saying "I take showers because my mommy told me, rather than because I think it's a good idea." (Or else "kids can't think so can't realise or be persuaded that occasional showers are a good idea", which is equally absurd.)
I have to agree with Albert Jay Nock, it has never been shown that having a majority of the population literate is any boon for society. The main reason to push literacy, from a State perspective, is to make people more receptive to various modes of propagandizing and impressioning. Obviously the ability to manipulate symbols for communication does have some technical advantage to it, but one has to keep in mind the marginal productivity of an increase in literacy vs. an increase in other skills
RJMooreII 1 year ago
If you can pick cotton thank your slave master.
utubehayter 1 year ago
You kind of look like Leon Trotsky. lol....no offense intended.
And when people say something along the lines of "Can you write? Thank a teacher" I politely inform them that my mother taught me how to write and not a public school teacher.
monkeyfeet122 1 year ago
You're making some false assumptions about the nature of what a teacher is. Not all teaching is coercive. Not all teachers are dictators who bend children to their will. (Look into Montessori). The public school system does monopolize education and attempt to force competitors out. If you are literate, you must have been taught that regardless of the method. If you have gained anything from being literate than that is something to be thankful for.
bakukenshin 1 year ago
One more thought: How much would you now know, had you not been taught how to read and write? Would you have been able to access the wealth of works of philosophy that you have? Would you be able to even manipulate a computer? The wrong doing that irritates you is the choice your parents made to educate you in a manner which denied you humanity. It is not a universal ill of teachers or of education.
bakukenshin 1 year ago
can you survive an extended period of time with violent thugs? thank your prison guard!
fede2 1 year ago
If possible I would like you to compile a list of books you recommend reading. I would be very interested to know what you think is worth to spend scarce time on.
zbigniewzapora 1 year ago
Bumper stickers are a mixed bag. I read one yesterday that I liked: DON'T STEAL (then in small print) The Government Doesn't Like Competition.
redkeithh 1 year ago
I can't believe your pissed off for people teaching you how to write. Are you pissed at your parents for teaching you English instead of offering many languages for your apparently well formed and rational mind developed at such a young age to choose from? And its not like the sticker said "can you ride a bike backwards while juggling? Thank a teacher." For that I would understand your point because its a useless skill, but writing is kind of important. Just a little bit.
19markle19 1 year ago
@19markle19 "I can't believe your pissed off for people teaching you how to write."
It seems like you kind of missed the point. People have taught me many things through voluntary, peaceful interaction with me, and I've taught myself many things as well. I don't like that children are forced to learn what authority figures threaten them into learning and then those same children are expected to be THANKFUL about it as adults.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse alright I can see that point. Lets assume that children were never forced to learn how to write when they entered school. Instead the teachers told them that when they felt like learning how to write they would be there to teach them. So what does the child do? Well he's a child so all he really cares about is playing with stuff and annoying girls. Now he's probably content to do this for quite a few years, since he's a child and all and doesn't know what is good for him yet, ...
19markle19 1 year ago
@19markle19 and so the teacher will have to keep waiting to teach him how to write, and Im assuming that reading is also part of this as well. Now I said something in that last post that Im sure you're going to jump all over: "since he's a child and doesn't know what is good for him yet". When you're a child most parents have their kids eat fruits and vegetables. Why? Because they are essential for the child to grow and be healthy. This is however not always the case, as exemplified by the...
19markle19 1 year ago
@19markle19 skyrocket in child obesity over the last few years. Now imagine that all the fat on those children could be a metaphor for the "fat" on a child's brain that cannot read or write. What you are left with is a generation of children that, because their parents love them so much and let them decide when they want to learn how to read and write, have become obese in their minds and cannot function in accord with society. Learning to read and write is the greatest git you will ever receive
19markle19 1 year ago
@19markle19 Your analysis is based on assumptions about children and their natural desires which are basically false, and even empirically so (children that are not controlled do not naturally feel a desire to avoid learning, for example; the desire to avoid learning arises from authority figures imposing learning on them forcefully).
I'd recommend reading some of the books by John Holt, such as How Children Fail.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
What the fuck? I'm sure I'm not the only person that learned how to read before starting school.
iddqd138 1 year ago
i have also seen "if you can read this, thank a teacher" sticker
Manohwar 1 year ago
Good video, favor rapists should be exposed for what they are.
MindCBase 1 year ago
LMAO, awesome.
PoSku2 1 year ago
Hey , I bet you would never see a bumper sticker that says"a high school graduate and you work at mcdonalds? thank a teacher!" or " A high school graduate, and a border line illiterate? Thank a teacher!"
Pentazoid111 1 year ago
Children can and do easily learn how to read and write before they go to school.
OpineTime 1 year ago
Teachers simply teach the basics and it's really down to the reader to grasp the complexity of the language
Until I was 14 I was a terrible reader. Teachers spent years trying to get me to learn. It wasn't till I got a computer and started reading the encyclopedia that I started to find it easy. Thinking back at it, of how the teachers tried, it was all really quite stupid. All we did was read fantasy books and write silly sentences. When All I needed was to read facts, history, science, ect
doford 1 year ago
@doford Yes indeed. I think you've highlighted a fundamental flaw in the school system: namely that each individual person will have different interests (how to learn stuff as well as what to learn), there's no way to tailor that to a class of people.
So even if they somehow only had people who were interested in the subject, it's hard to learn anything past the basics efficiently, because people's interests in specific problems or aspects of the field will start diverging more and more.
LulieTanett 1 year ago
he's a ginger! a soulless ginger!!!!
Cefuroxx 1 year ago
Although I do think children are coerced to go to school, and I do think that school is typically not an enviroment conduive to useful learning, I don't think it can be called kidnapping... I mean the parents choose to send the kids to the school no? Unless you call the parents keeping the kids in their home, or taking them on holiday with them kidnapping too?
davyjames 1 year ago 2
@davyjames " I don't think it can be called kidnapping... I mean the parents choose to send the kids to the school no?"
Consider the following sentence; "I don't think it can be called slavery... I mean the slave owners choose what the slaves do no?"
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse But by that logic anybody who raises a child is kidnapping the child. Presumably you agree that until a certain point a child cannot look after itself...?
davyjames 1 year ago
@XOmniverse
Not that I disagree with the logic of your video or anything but I don't know about that comparison. There a very clear definition between a parent and a slave master. I say this to the extent that parents generally do allow their kids here and there bits of freedom when it comes to choice on certain things like uh what sports they want to try out or what art form they might take up. I might be way off here too. Feedback would be cool
Person009 1 year ago
@davyjames Parents do not own children.
TruthHidden 1 year ago
"A car with an opinion" as we say in my family.
moshe88 1 year ago
On one hand its immoral but on the other what they taught was really useful so I am thankful. If there was some way to listen to kids and figure out what they want, and show them the value of reading/writing before they were capable, I would be in favour of it. But that seems kind of impossible, so forcing them seems necessary just because you can't really function in society without reading/writing skills. They did it with the best intentions anyways, so I can't be angry at them
radscorpion8 1 year ago
@radscorpion8 "But that seems kind of impossible"; is this opinion based on any kind of study on the subject? It seems to me that, if you haven't researched homeschooling/unschooling/etc., you're being awfully quick to jump to the option of coercing kids (physically if necessary) for me to genuinely believe that you are doing so with strong feelings of regret.
XOmniverse 1 year ago 2
@XOmniverse Actually, to be honest, I don't really regret it because I didn't see it as really a slave-master relationship but more of a guiding hand that showed me what was good to learn before I was really capable of seeing the benefits for myself X years down the road (its convenient in my mind). But you're right..I didn't actually do much research, I just thought about it and it seemed unrealistic to expect kids to choose what they want to learn when they're five years old or so.
radscorpion8 1 year ago
The ones used over here usually go...
"If you can read this, thank a teacher
If you can read this in English, thank a soldier"
It's pretty silly when you think about it.
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 Why is "If you can read this in English, thank a soldier" silly?
LulieTanett 1 year ago
@LulieTanett
For a number of reasons. One of which being that it can only really be a reference to WW2 vets.
There's also the other side of the coin , for example Native Americans may speak English now but are they supposed to be thankful for that?
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 Not just WW2 vets. Napoleon, the Spanish Inquisition, Britain's other wars, to say nothing of the current war on terror. It's hard to predict how these things would have gone had we lost, but certainly in some cases it would have resulted in our society being damaged or destroyed.
As for the Native Americans: d00d, computers and technology and medicine. Hell yeah I would be thankful for that. (I condemn their being treated badly initially, but it's definitely an improvement now.)
LulieTanett 1 year ago
@LulieTanett
You can't thank Napolean or the Spanish Inquisition (I have no idea why'd you want to thank them anyway) - they aren't here, just being a soldier doesn't give you special powers to be thanked for something you didn't do. And the "War on Terror" has nothing to do with saving our society/language anyway.
There is no "we". "We" (people in a given geographical region) have had losses and victories all throughout history and have been shaped accordingly.
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008
Maybe I am crazy but it's my view that you should get thanks and praise on merit - not for merely wearing a costume.
If Germany had won WW2 you would have added Hitler to that line up of yours. It makes no sense whatsoever just to lay a blanket of thanks at the feet of every historical figure or group that had a direct hand in the control and progression of a given patch of land. There are many cases where the wrong side won (& that includes ppl from these islands)
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 I think you missed my point. I was assuming you meant Hitler, and I was giving other examples of bad people that could have made our society awful. I'm not saying to thank Napoleon, I'm saying to thank the people who *stopped* him.
Being a soldier is not about wearing a suit. That's fashion models (although even they have certain skills like carrying their body in particular ways). Being a soldier requires being highly trained and engaging in life-threatening situations.
LulieTanett 1 year ago
I saw a guy wearing a shirt that read "Can you read? Thank a teacher. Can you read in English? Thank a Marine." As if not knowing English would be some terrible thing...
Americaleb 1 year ago
@Americaleb Well, it would mean that you'd belong to a presumably worse society, with a violent dictator. In order to not live under a dictatorship, someone (e.g. a marine) would have to at some point stand up against it.
LulieTanett 1 year ago
Were you bullied in school? Thank a teacher!
Were you psychologically tortured in school? Thank a teacher!
Were your hopes and dreams crushed? Thank a teacher!
Mastikator 1 year ago 6
@Mastikator lol
ExistentialExistent 1 year ago
I have seen those signs before; they always amuse me because in my case it is so unambiguously not true—thank sanity for home-education and autonomous parenting. Good video, excellent points about incentive.
RowanFortuneWood 1 year ago
@RowanFortuneWood All I can say is the world is separated into two camps brainless ignorant morons and people who actually think and analyze. I'm glad I'm mostly friends with the thinking and analyzing people.
DrBakshandeh 1 year ago
looking good man.
Having fun in cali?
AndyMH182 1 year ago
I knew how to write long before I entered school. I had these things called parents.
Weaselheadx 1 year ago
Wat? No "hey everybody" today? Who are you and what have you done with the real xomni? :3
cellardoor01 1 year ago
It would have been hilarious if it had read:
"Can you right? Thank a teacher!"
I would laugh my ass out if I saw a bumper sticker like that.
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago
This is just my viewpoint, take it for what it is. I am now 17 and therefore could legally quit school. I go to a very fancy private school with many philoshophy classes and they actually teach me stuff I want to learn. The main idea they try to teach us now, is that we are at school to help ourselves, not for the teachers, not for parents. The teachers now are working for US. They emphasis the point that we don't have to be at school, it is simply voluntary.
drew335533 1 year ago
school should be free 24/7/365
Dave7689 1 year ago
"Thank a gold brick kidnapper." That was funny.
ajhinfairbanks 1 year ago
I don't know how it happened in the US, but in the Habsburg (old Austrian) monarchy the compulsory schooling was introduced to force every subject into literacy, so as everybody to be able to read and understand e.g. the draft notice. More educated and self-confident civil society was only a by-product of the compulsory schooling. On the level of individuals, can you imagine anyone with education and self-confidence, who reached the two qualities without being previously coerced?
danielsondanielson 1 year ago
@danielsondanielson a child is educated and confident enough to get up off its hands and knees and onto its feet when they learn to walk. and i don't ever remember being coerced into learning to walk, do you?
travis0629 1 year ago
@travis0629 With that walking it's right. But humans are probably genetically programmed to learn walking; unless some children are "nurtured" by cows or goats (rarely happens), they spontaneously imitate their older fellow-humans in the way of their locomotion. But is the same right about writing and reading? I'd think if you're coerced to learn it, you're more likely to learn it quickly enough to manage learning also further stuff in time to become a culturally competent and competitive adult.
danielsondanielson 1 year ago
@danielsondanielson well then i suppose you prefer to be forced into learning things. but then this is still your voluntary preference to have your preferences disregarded. i on the other hand enjoy learning things that i am genuinely interested in. and with these things i am more adamant about grasping them then any coercion could replicate. does that make sense?
travis0629 1 year ago
@travis0629 No, I don't think so. I only wanted to say that educators generally can't do without coercion in teaching children basic literacy skills. You go too far and attribute me opinions that I don't have.
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@danielsondanielson "More educated and self-confident civil society was only a by-product of the compulsory schooling. On the level of individuals, can you imagine anyone with education and self-confidence, who reached the two qualities without being previously coerced?"
this sounds like you saying education and self-confidence require coercion. of course if this is a mistake then i totally agree because that would be ridiculous
travis0629 1 year ago
@danielsondanielson
travis0629 1 year ago
I'd give this five stars if it still worked like that.
juliecranford 1 year ago 2
DUDE!!!! This exact thing happened to me! It pissed me off almost as much... No more then it pissed you off.
chaserehn 1 year ago
really this is some good shit. hope all is well in SoCal. Cheers!
TheGodofAtheists 1 year ago
I too have been angry at seeing this same bumper sticker. You are not in this alone!
freefallin002 1 year ago
Gotta love popular values.
Stargazer5781 1 year ago
fuckin a.
there is a referendum in my town right now to raise property taxes so the worksheet-distributing babysitters don't have to take cuts from their highly overpaid salaries (and by overpaid i mean above zero). the self-worship coming from the school corporation and the teachers is vomit worthy. without them, apparently, these kids will just be complete morons with no education. fucking outrageous.
junior00bacon00chee 1 year ago
oh that's very similar thing I encountered today in one forum lol. So this guy basically said to me that I should be thankful to our State of "free healthcare" etc (whatever that means) and if not, I should "forsake/refuse" it. I was speechless, like if I have an option to PRIVATE health insurance lol. Sometimes it seems that I just should avoid public (I mean not anarcho) forums at all because it actually is bad for my health :(
Good video, Shawn :)
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
@MaikUniversum Better for your health would be to go to those forums and persuade everyone. ;)
LulieTanett 1 year ago
@LulieTanett I almost got banned. So no :D
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
As a teacher in the making...... I 10000% support this video!
UnschoolingEagle 1 year ago
"If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you're free to read this, thank a soldier" or something like that. :o
tiecuando 1 year ago
@tiecuando lol, yeah :D Well said. Soldiers died for our freedoms !!11!!!
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
I totally agree, Shawn. You got that right. Plus, if that quote offends you, the whole quote will offend you even more. :)
I'll go find it.
tiecuando 1 year ago
That bothered me as soon as I read the title... Actually, I learned before school. It's funny, I was just watching some unschooling videos, it really pissed me off that TYT thought "Oh, they're just gonna play wii all day, and not take showers.".
ArandurKing909 1 year ago
@ArandurKing909 TYT, what a bunch of douchenozzels, right? Where is this vid, I wanna see.
tiecuando 1 year ago
@tiecuando watch?v=zYZrho7Th68
ArandurKing909 1 year ago
@ArandurKing909 Heh, yeah. That's basically saying "I take showers because my mommy told me, rather than because I think it's a good idea." (Or else "kids can't think so can't realise or be persuaded that occasional showers are a good idea", which is equally absurd.)
LulieTanett 1 year ago
my brother takes the "support the troops" stickers off cars when he sees them. hes got three so far lol
return135 1 year ago
@return135 he is stealing private property.
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
@MaikUniversum he doesnt really care. "support the troops" is supporting war and murderers, so i can see why he wouldnt really care.
return135 1 year ago
Save the foetuses lol. We don't have bumper stickers over here but I wish we did now.
GirlyVoice 1 year ago
Oral tradition far exceeds text. Hence, Howard Zinn's A People's History.
Gettinghitonattheban 1 year ago