Hingis was an arrogant and spoiled brat. She became number one when Graf and Seles were injured and at the end of their career. When the Williams reached their peak, Hingis' career was over. She was talented and creative, but being number one means being an example for younger tennis players. For sure Hingis was not an example!!!
@napat004 Well she wasn't there for entertainment, she was there to win... I agree with you though, sliced backhands are not fun to watch, but she wasn't playing for our pleasure... and who'd blame her ? It's not like she was cheating or anything, she was just playing in order to win and hell did she do so.
And I do miss Hingis, personnally. She sure was a spoiled brat, but she was able to be the best while not playing like a man. Women tennis is so boring nowadays.
In the first/second year of Hingis' career I thought she would be one of the greatest of all time. It's a shame that so much talent was wasted. I think this particular match had a devastating effect on her confidence and then career. Its a lesson that a lot young players can learn from.
Oh yes, Graf... I remember her from blaming a loss saying in the pressroom "Ich hätte mein Tag" or in English "i had my period". That was pathetic, but she was just a boring hardhitter with a big serve and forehand, like Becker.
@ripspique you must really hate tennis now then, and graf was the most exciting player to have ever played the game. oh and seles must be boring as well cause all she did was hit the ball hard as well,
@idontsignin True. Womans tennis is a sad joke these days. Henin is probably the last topplayer purely relying on her technique. And Seles (where did I mention her?) wasn´t one of my favorites either
Hingis was such a spoiled, arrogant brat. A talented player, but impossible to like. She was lucky to reach here best as Graf and Seles were fading and before the big hitters Venus, Serena, Lindsay Davenport and Capriati reached there peak. Once they did, she did not win another major after January of 1999. She made 5 major finals after that (3 in Australia) and lost all 5.
El público de Roland Garros era, es y será siempre muy irrespetuoso con muchos tenistas. Sólo por el hecho que hagan, digan ó piensen distinto a ellos, siempre los abuchean y faltan al respeto y eso en el mejor de los casos. Por muy mal que les caiga un jugador, deben guardar en todo momento silencio mientras este el partido disputándose. Venus/Serena Williams, Martina Hingis, Rafa Nadal son tan sólo unos pocos ejemplos de momentos que en el mejor de los casos consideraria una vergüenza.
I think what made it worse for Hingis is that in general the French crowd is very sexist. The men get away with far worse behavior. I have noticed this watching year after year. The French crowd got on ASVicario also. The men generally can do what they want. How come the commentators never call the French on this?
Wait, what's going on? Did HIngis feel upset by the crowds or what, she just served the ball like an amatuer then the crowds booed her. I am not familiar with tennis rule, but can she serve like that? Very funny.
@AdvertChild98 :she used an underhand serve to surprise her opponent,and she win the point.Some booed her,but some thought the shot was interesting.She was down 5-2 so she used the tactic
With all due respect, the 1990s women's tennis was dull. I was curious what these two legends were like in the old days, I was expecting to see how spectacles, but all I see is mediocre speed and power. It's like they playing in slow motion compared to the high-intensity of play performed by today's players. Graf didn't seem to be a very aggressive player. Both players used their brains more but lack strength.
@Hoffenheim08 Calling a perosn dumb yet had no facts to back up, you are just as idiotic as how you described you are. It's a fact that women's tennis in 90s were slow and powerless. I love Graf & she has great tennis brain but the competitions in her era were largely deploarable. Graf, Monica, Hingis, Lindsay etc. Is that all? If you want you could even add Anna Kounikova on the pathetic list too. Compared to the quality speed & drama women's tennis from 2000 - 2007 created, 90s is forgettable.
Ever heard of Navratilova, Sanchez, Sabatini, Novotna, you moron?
The 90s had most of the greatest slam finals of all time: FO 92, 96 & 99, Wimbledon 93 & 95, USO 95 come to mind. Where are comparable slam finals in the 21th century?
Do you really think that players like Safina, Jankovic, Ivanovic or Wozniacki would have come even NEAR the #1 spot in the 90s??????
@Hoffenheim08 Idiot. Martina was already in her 30s during the 90s, so what's the fun of watching a senior tennis player playing against the young guns? Sanchez, Novotha? Yawn. Those are not an icon whatsoever. Most of the 90s were totally dominated by Graf, which explained the competitions were dead low. I've never said the quality was better in today's standard, I only said today's players had more strength and power.
@AdvertChild98 YOU MUST BE JOKING since graf retired there hasnt been a player on the ladies tour who has even hinted at the dominance graf displayed .Todays tennis is a joke the world no1 hsnt won a grand slam title ,the william's play when they want to and the rest ...ppppssshhhhhh who the hell knows who they are.And ur comparing this crap to the quality of the 80s and 90s extended dominance ended when graf retired
@AdvertChild98 When graf retired extended dominance of womens tennis finished these days each gs has a diff no1 seed and the no1 player in the world hasnt won 1. Graf fought back from 2 years of injuries and rehab to win this title ,even she thought she would enter the french just for practice for wimby she beat the world 1,2,3 ranks it was the greatest comeback i have ever seen and the biggest kick in teeth to hingis who said steffi is old now her time is up.then she reached the wimby final
@poxmanful Exactly...couldn't have been said better.
But these are are the main reasons why it made little sense to me for her to retire mid-year like that...why not just see what you can do for another year or two...and probably pass Margaret Court outright in singles?
@QuadThreat85 Greatness was not the intangible that concerned Graf. Perfection was. But when she became convinced she wouldn't produce any more perfect seven-round performances at the Grand Slams, she quit on the virtual eve of the United States Open.She had beaten the best for 14 years who could blame her for thinkinking "Maybe there is something else i could do". She just came of probably the Two biggest tournaments of her career ,and in the middle of all this she turned 30
@QuadThreat85 Regardless of the generation, Graf was a nemesis. No one could ward off her bludgeon of a forehand with any consistency, and no one could hit the ball hard enough, or place it strategically enough, to thwart her footwork. The New Age power players despised her slithering backhand slice and envied her icy composure and racehorse physique. The generation that preceded her simply bowed to her power.
@QuadThreat85 Martina Navratilova moved the game two steps forward with her athleticism and attacking game, and then Steffi took it one step further than that. I don't see anybody repeating what they did, and it's a very difficult decision to choose between the two of them, but in my eyes, Steffi was the best ever.''
@poxmanful I see everything that you're saying...it's just that I personally think that even though one cannot help their competition, one's competition does help shape their place in history.
It's the ONLY reason I put Sampras slightly over Federer...for example. Also, the reason why Serena has to be at least in the conversation with Martina, Steffi, & Chris, and if she somehow catches Martina & Chris, she will be no less than 2nd, and it's the reason why I put Martina over Steffi.
@QuadThreat85 I must admit I do have a problem with adding serena to the list. She has a play when i want mentality , her main competition was her sister and she isnt anywhere close to the others in gs victories or records
@poxmanful MAin competition was Venus, but by no means her only. Justine, Kim, Lindsay, & Maria (when she had a serve)? Those were all pretty tough competition, and they were all playing their prime tennis during Serena's career.
Considering the fact that it may be quite some time (if ever) that we see someone else win double-digit slams (thanks to the increased physicality of the game), Serena is for sure in that conversation...most experts agree.
@QuadThreat85 Graf ,in my opinion was the best, mainly because of her ability to win the lost match.She had this knack of almost losing then be able to get out and win.Her longevity and abilty to play on all surfaces must also be taken into account.
@poxmanful also, I agree with everything you're saying, but that only gives her the bid for the best woman to play the SINGLES game so far (which I have always agreed with). Tennis is not just a singles sport, and a person's ability to play and dominate singles, doubles, and mixed in the midst of stiff competition says VOLUMES. No one will ever do again what Martina has been able to do post open-era...Serena and Venus have been the only ones to attempt it.
@Hoffenheim08 Tennis is not just a singles sport....I don't know what the fuck you're watching, but it's NOT tennis. Only when comparing a singles player to a doubles specialist is one singles slam more than that many doubles.....and even THEN it's up for debate...considering how a draw can open up for a player to win a singles slam...you're a FUCKING MORON!
Shriver > Majoli, Martinez, & Novotna COMBINED. Her singles record in the era in which she played speaks for itself.
@QuadThreat85 Pam had to play singles during an era where if your name was not Navratilova, Evert, or Graf, you were basically nobody. Yet, she STILL managed 7 SF and 1 F....WHILE she was obviously a doubles specialist! With that said, one can EASILY make an argument that she would have collected her lucky singles slam (like Majoli, Martinez, & Novotna), had she focused a little more on singles...which makes Navratilova's accomplishments EVEN BETTER.
@Hoffenheim08 Samantha Stosur....there's a perfect example in the modern game. She had to basically quit playing doubles in order to get a singles slam. Maybe Steffi was smart in a sense...because she realized early on that she would be lucky to have 12 singles slams let alone 22 had she focused on doubles as well...
once again, this is all why Martina is over her, and why Shriver's accomplishments are over those lucky one singles slam wonders that you think are SOOOO GREAT!
Steffi preferred hitting with top male hitting partners to playing those funny doubles matches. Because she had the money to pay them. And believe me - that was far more demanding than beating up little girls with the help of Shriver.
@QuadThreat85 if you bring doubles and mixed into the equation then absolutely nav stands alone as goat i have no problem agreeing with that singles on the other hand i say its a tight call between nav and graf but i give it to graf
@Hoffenheim08 Clijsters couldn;t win because of who was in her way. The same with Davenport....she was fucking no 1 for two seasons after her last slam win....
Everyone knows that the rankings have meant next to nothing since Justine retired when she did and fucked the rankings ALL UP....they are JUST NOW starting to be indicative of the best players playing right now, and it still has a long way to go!
6 players had a chance at no.1 this week....THAT'S COMPETITION, FUCKASS!
@Hoffenheim08 ...that's one surface.....most of the greats suffered on at least one surface....but there was not one player who consistently took him out of GS (or smaller events for that matter)
@QuadThreat85 Graf does appear to be the execption and could master all surface but what you are saying is very true seles and lendl on grass are two excellant examples I believe it strengthens Grafs goat claim was her ability to play on all surfaces ,The way she got that way was a billion hours of practice with her work ethic and perfectionism meant she spent days weeks on practicing before touraments not a lot of players have that commitment these days
@poxmanful He'll never face the truth...all I'm doing is bringing up valid points (like he does sometimes) to back up my beliefs....but because they don't go in line with his, they are wrong, and I deserve to be ridiculed for it. HE even has to make MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS just to reassure himself that SOMEONE out there agrees with his BS!
@Hoffenheim08 ....you're fucking CRAZY. You really do sit here and have conversations with yourself. GET SOME FUCKING HELP, or KILL YOURSELF! The latter suggestion would probably be much less expensive, so go with that one.
Margaret Court is a homophobic wrinkled up snotrag whose career was INFLATED....MUCH more than Steffi's.
Federer only gets downplayed for one reason: You cannot consider someone the GOAT when their record against one player (amongst others) is THAT poor!
@QuadThreat85 So much for our friendly discussion thats gone right down the fuckin shittube and blown out to fuckin sea ,thanks hoff :) now back to fuckin tennis FUCK i fuckin reckon graf is fuckin goat cuz she has fuckin hotter fuckin legs than fuckin nav or fuckin serena fuck and who fuckin cares bout fuckin sampras fuck and fuckin fed fuck fuck fuck cunt faaaaarrrrrrrkkkkk
@Hoffenheim08 He can't beat Nadal even if Nadal comes out on one leg, and it's starting to look that way with Djokovic....but knowing you, you will REFUSE to admit that Federer is the same player now that he was 5 years ago, and it's just that the rest of the tour got wise and caught up to him.
Court had no regular competition, neither did Graf, and Federer didn't have any until 2008.
Get over the truth!...you're SO FUCKING DELUSIONAL.
@QuadThreat85 i dont agree graf had no competition aranxta was like a bulldog on the court she would never give up and was very tenacious gabi was grafs old sparring partner from way back and to a lesser degree hingis and davenport were on their way up .Of course there was also seles nav and lloyd she did have a lot of competition and i believe the reason why people believe she didnt was because her and seles were so much better than anybody else
I don't understand what all the booing was for! It's a perfectly legal service and thus well within her rights to use it and not forgetting she was in a competition to win, not a generosity contest. If you can choose when to slice or ball or hit a dropshot why not the underarm serve? Didn't know about it till today when suggested by one of the commentators in the Watson-Johansson SW19 match after Watson did her elbow, but I would like to see it used more often; then it wouldn't be such a taboo.
They are all lucky. 1999 was start of Williams era, Steffi and Martina with this shots would be useless against Serena and Venus hits with too much power and precision.
@barrysteven Why is it disgraceful... I think it's a clever move since everyone in Tennis is expecting the complex motion for a hard hitting serve.. Why not throw in a surprise ;)
@Hoffenheim08 So? Even Steffi said afterwards that she thought the under-arm serve of Martina's was very good. Yes, Martina was childish, but she was only 18, facing not only the legend that is Steffi Graf, but an increasingly partisan crowd. I watched the whole thing years ago and it was actually heart breaking to see how confused she was about the way the French crowd treated her. Yes, she could be impetuous and rude but women's tennis really, really needs a Martina Hingis right about now.
@Hoffenheim08 I don't claim to 'know' Steffi, I simply pointed out something she said afterwards regarding the underarm serve. I wouldn't expect Steffi to resort to any kind of name calling, but that really wasn't the point of my post. If she didn't agree with Hingis' play then why say anything at all?
@Hoffenheim08 Be honest, perhaps? Which she probably was being anyway. She won the match, so why be bitter about something that's since become irrelevant?
@adsj24 "...it was actually heart breaking to see how confused she was about the way the French crowd treated her."
Heartbreaking? Are you serious? You say Martina's childishness was justified due her being 18? Steffi won the French at 18 with no spoiled brat stuff (psst, 18 is an ADULT). She was facing "an increasingly partisan crowd", uh, hello, what/who MADE them partisan? Was she "confused" as to why? NO!
Okay you like her, but your comments drip with stupidity, & come FROM a drip!
@markisb62 I'm sorry but was I rude to you in any way, shape or form? You don't know me so, please, keep your unwanted and uncalled for opinions to yourself. I actually wanted Steffi to win, and I think she thoroughly deserved it but I'm not going to pretend that the way the French crowed behaved was in any way justifiable. You simply have to look at the way the crowd has treated other players before and since then to realise it's not a one off event.
Hingis tried the underhand serve a second time on the second match point for Graf. This video doesn't show that. She wasn't successful with it and even complained to get a second first serve. This shows what an unfair player she actually was as a teenager, without any respect for other players.
Thanks for posting this as its always good to see Hingis getting beaten, especially as she got what she deserved that day as her attitude was terrible.
@shane802 Hingis was lucky too. She won her Grand Slams while Graf was injured and before the Williams sisters started to dominate. The difference between Hingis and Graf is that Graf was a true champion
@shane802 I think it's a little unfair to discredit Steffi at all due to the actions of that maniac. I know you said she's a great champion as well, but it seems unfair that it even gets brought up. Steffi was an epic player, and still would've been if her main rival wasn't stabbed - actually, I think having her rival present would've pushed her to even greater heights. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
What difference does all this make? THE FOREHEAD is very entertaining, whereas the NOSE is boring.....they are complimentary to one another.....
I like Hingis...she was fascinating, self destructive, prideful, full of hubris........she provided entertainment.......Graf was a fantastic player, but socially incompetent and totally boring......
each personality magnified the other.....and yes, the french are terrible, they always have been......
@artisking I saw Hingis play live quite a few times, even at Australian open, she was anything but entertaining, I even heard comments at aus open at one of her finals of "boring", she had no explosive power, just bunted the ball around. Steffi was and is the most exciting and the best female player in history. To bring personal characteristics like her nose into just shows us your ignorance. Hingis finished her career by self admitting to Cocaine, attention seeker to the end.
3:48 although I cannot appreciate this underarm service by Martina and her general attitude in this particular match it is obvious that the French crowd is biased. In 1989 Michael Chang got away with the same trick against Ivan Lendl but Chang had the whole crowd behind him. Well, people might always stick to the underdog...
@kalurank Steffi got away with 90% of the crowd behind her. 90% of the crowd applauded on Martina's unforced errors! So, let's not talk about sportsmanship here! You are here for drama and entertainment, this is paid sport which gives winner the MONEY and FAME!
If only this match played somewhere else e.g. Wimbledon, I can't help but wonder (just like Carrie Bradshaw) what the outcome would be!!
@twilliger123 Speak for yourself ! Was that comment for you??? Just made because someone didn't agree with you on another post.... now who's the asshole ?? CHILD
steffi was so cool with hitting slice backhand winners on a regular basis :)))
imho steffis game and rogers game really have a great similarity: both one handers with grace and wicked slice and powerful forehands
and seles and nadal, thats at least what I think cause of their totally unique style: both leftis (or wannabee :)) with kind of two forehands if u know what I'm talking about
note: just speaking about style, dont bash me with statistics
this was probably the beginning of the end of Martina's career - she never fully recovered from this, neither did her image. Really sad in some ways, she didnt win another slam. And back in 97'-98' everyone was talking of the greatest talent to ever grace the game - she faded pretty quickly
Tennis is Tennis. People you don't like win, people you love win, after all it is a sport, and sport is fun, everything after that has nothing to do with Tennis
steffi is a legend but nobody cares about hingis, she did well when graf was ageing and seles stabbed but the williams sister kicked her butt, know ur place little girl u went as good as u thought
i'm not saying martina did well in this match but i remember being an asshole when i was 18 too,and i didn't have half the preasure she had all her life...
No players with two handed backhands have the guts or foresight to hit a topspin one handed backhand and catch their opponent off-guard. As for her behaviour, how many people haven't done things when they were teenagers that they regret? Chances are that you weren't caught on television and booed by a crowd of 1000s.
Its not cheating, but pretty much 100% of tennis players agree that its "unsportsmanlike". So when one of them uses it, its kind of an under-handed tactic.
ppl only seem to remember the bad about martina they don't remember her saying this about steffi do they
"She was a great legend, an icon and still is," " . . . We were not like sisters, not best friends. We both had the same goals. But everybody is going to remember her as Steffi Graf, the great.""steffi is the great shape of sport of all time"
i sort of understand what hingis is saying in this comment. her tennis looks easy but hingis played more in her head than any other player i can think of. she was small and not as athletic as graf or the williamses but it was hard as hell to win against her bc she used time, your weaknesses, spins and angles to her advantage. i have much more respect for her than any other tennis player bc of that. the way she played was like 99 percent mental.
@holocaustik we are not discussing wether Hingis or Steffi were great tennis players or not, they Indeed were and are and will be two of the Greatest tennis players ever. What we all see, and it has nothing to do with mental skills or tennis itself, is that Hingis had a horrible attitude in and out of the court, she never showed respect for her rivals even when they played better, and in press conferences, she was totallly out of the line, and noone that plays and and enjoys tennis can deny that
@holocaustikwe are not discussing wether Hingis or Steffi were great tennis players or not, they Indeed were and are and will be two of the Greatest tennis players ever. What we all see, and it has nothing to do with mental skills or tennis itself, is that Hingis had a horrible attitude in and out of the court, she never showed respect for her rivals even when they played better, and in press conferences, she was totallly out of the line, and noone that plays and and enjoys tennis can deny that
i know exactly what you are discussing. the attitude of hingis-duh. my comment was more in line with what hoffenhheim quoted hingis , the part about her tennis not being understood. i side with hingis, no matter how rude it was or out of line it was i get what shes saying. she can speak her mind just like anyone else.
@holocaustik I think you're right about Martina's game. It was deceptive because she didn't hit the ball hardest, didn't have the best serve (indeed a weak second serve), so how did she get to be number one, let alone dominate the game for a good while? For the reasons you said - her cleverness about the game. But it wasn't obvious to the casual observer the way Steffi's great forehand is. Still no excuse for Martina's arrogance and rudeness, although I liked her when she came back, more humble.
well yeah martina was definitely arrogant and rude but the way i look at it is what 16-18 yr old isn't cocky about something that they do well? she was young and stupid in that regard.
why did martina serce like that wtf?
wujumasteryi 3 weeks ago
Hingis was an arrogant and spoiled brat. She became number one when Graf and Seles were injured and at the end of their career. When the Williams reached their peak, Hingis' career was over. She was talented and creative, but being number one means being an example for younger tennis players. For sure Hingis was not an example!!!
vield1 1 month ago
@vield1
But the ascent of the Williams sisters was helped tremendously by Hingis' decline.
Hoffenheim08 1 month ago
OMG!marina served a under arm service @3.52
achuthanachilles 2 months ago
Definitely the sweetest time for any Steffi Graf fan!
Flipboy5 2 months ago
Can't steffi hit a normal backhand instead of the slice??? lmao
napat004 3 months ago
@napat004
Normal tennis players play normal backhands and have normal success.
Graf was not normal.
Hoffenheim08 3 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 I'm not forcing her to make a normal backhand but it's just for entertainment purposes. And btw ur comment is totally an opinion.....
napat004 3 months ago
@napat004
No, it is not an opinion, it is a fact.
Hoffenheim08 3 months ago
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PierreJeanPierre 2 months ago
@napat004 Well she wasn't there for entertainment, she was there to win... I agree with you though, sliced backhands are not fun to watch, but she wasn't playing for our pleasure... and who'd blame her ? It's not like she was cheating or anything, she was just playing in order to win and hell did she do so.
And I do miss Hingis, personnally. She sure was a spoiled brat, but she was able to be the best while not playing like a man. Women tennis is so boring nowadays.
PierreJeanPierre 2 months ago
@PierreJeanPierre
A great slice BH is of course fun to watch.
And which player was more fun to watch than Graf? Why has no female tennis player on this planet had more fans world-wide than Graf?
Hoffenheim08 2 months ago
This is totally HD for 1999!!!! LOL
napat004 3 months ago
In the first/second year of Hingis' career I thought she would be one of the greatest of all time. It's a shame that so much talent was wasted. I think this particular match had a devastating effect on her confidence and then career. Its a lesson that a lot young players can learn from.
skyhawk33 3 months ago
Why Hingis had face to serve that at 3:48?
Poor former No.1!
DX88168 4 months ago
I was looking for that serve for a long time! 3:48
Gofannon1985 4 months ago
Oh yes, Graf... I remember her from blaming a loss saying in the pressroom "Ich hätte mein Tag" or in English "i had my period". That was pathetic, but she was just a boring hardhitter with a big serve and forehand, like Becker.
ripspique 4 months ago
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idontsignin 4 months ago
@ripspique you must really hate tennis now then, and graf was the most exciting player to have ever played the game. oh and seles must be boring as well cause all she did was hit the ball hard as well,
idontsignin 4 months ago
@idontsignin True. Womans tennis is a sad joke these days. Henin is probably the last topplayer purely relying on her technique. And Seles (where did I mention her?) wasn´t one of my favorites either
ripspique 4 months ago
@ripspique sooo a player that wins over 87% of her matches ,over 1000 matches in her career is boring ......U should watch another sport
poxmanful 3 months ago
Obviously this person was a Hingis fan.
gameblack86 5 months ago
The one handed backhand made by Hingis made me LOL hard.
forcemajeur08 5 months ago
Hingis was such a spoiled, arrogant brat. A talented player, but impossible to like. She was lucky to reach here best as Graf and Seles were fading and before the big hitters Venus, Serena, Lindsay Davenport and Capriati reached there peak. Once they did, she did not win another major after January of 1999. She made 5 major finals after that (3 in Australia) and lost all 5.
yahwhous 5 months ago
Thumbs up if you think Steffi Graf has GREAT legs.
eric251982 6 months ago 42
I remember watching this match like it was yesterday. Hingis was being such a twat. Spoiled brat.
eric251982 6 months ago
El público de Roland Garros era, es y será siempre muy irrespetuoso con muchos tenistas. Sólo por el hecho que hagan, digan ó piensen distinto a ellos, siempre los abuchean y faltan al respeto y eso en el mejor de los casos. Por muy mal que les caiga un jugador, deben guardar en todo momento silencio mientras este el partido disputándose. Venus/Serena Williams, Martina Hingis, Rafa Nadal son tan sólo unos pocos ejemplos de momentos que en el mejor de los casos consideraria una vergüenza.
gustavo91216 6 months ago
I think what made it worse for Hingis is that in general the French crowd is very sexist. The men get away with far worse behavior. I have noticed this watching year after year. The French crowd got on ASVicario also. The men generally can do what they want. How come the commentators never call the French on this?
shane802 6 months ago
Wait, what's going on? Did HIngis feel upset by the crowds or what, she just served the ball like an amatuer then the crowds booed her. I am not familiar with tennis rule, but can she serve like that? Very funny.
AdvertChild98 6 months ago
@AdvertChild98 :she used an underhand serve to surprise her opponent,and she win the point.Some booed her,but some thought the shot was interesting.She was down 5-2 so she used the tactic
hykha02 4 months ago
With all due respect, the 1990s women's tennis was dull. I was curious what these two legends were like in the old days, I was expecting to see how spectacles, but all I see is mediocre speed and power. It's like they playing in slow motion compared to the high-intensity of play performed by today's players. Graf didn't seem to be a very aggressive player. Both players used their brains more but lack strength.
AdvertChild98 6 months ago
@AdvertChild98
Women's tennis dull in the 90s compared to today?
Congrats, that is most probably the dumbest post ever on youtube.
Hoffenheim08 6 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 Calling a perosn dumb yet had no facts to back up, you are just as idiotic as how you described you are. It's a fact that women's tennis in 90s were slow and powerless. I love Graf & she has great tennis brain but the competitions in her era were largely deploarable. Graf, Monica, Hingis, Lindsay etc. Is that all? If you want you could even add Anna Kounikova on the pathetic list too. Compared to the quality speed & drama women's tennis from 2000 - 2007 created, 90s is forgettable.
AdvertChild98 6 months ago
@AdvertChild98
Ever heard of Navratilova, Sanchez, Sabatini, Novotna, you moron?
The 90s had most of the greatest slam finals of all time: FO 92, 96 & 99, Wimbledon 93 & 95, USO 95 come to mind. Where are comparable slam finals in the 21th century?
Do you really think that players like Safina, Jankovic, Ivanovic or Wozniacki would have come even NEAR the #1 spot in the 90s??????
Hoffenheim08 6 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 Idiot. Martina was already in her 30s during the 90s, so what's the fun of watching a senior tennis player playing against the young guns? Sanchez, Novotha? Yawn. Those are not an icon whatsoever. Most of the 90s were totally dominated by Graf, which explained the competitions were dead low. I've never said the quality was better in today's standard, I only said today's players had more strength and power.
AdvertChild98 6 months ago
@AdvertChild98 YOU MUST BE JOKING since graf retired there hasnt been a player on the ladies tour who has even hinted at the dominance graf displayed .Todays tennis is a joke the world no1 hsnt won a grand slam title ,the william's play when they want to and the rest ...ppppssshhhhhh who the hell knows who they are.And ur comparing this crap to the quality of the 80s and 90s extended dominance ended when graf retired
poxmanful 3 months ago
@AdvertChild98 When graf retired extended dominance of womens tennis finished these days each gs has a diff no1 seed and the no1 player in the world hasnt won 1. Graf fought back from 2 years of injuries and rehab to win this title ,even she thought she would enter the french just for practice for wimby she beat the world 1,2,3 ranks it was the greatest comeback i have ever seen and the biggest kick in teeth to hingis who said steffi is old now her time is up.then she reached the wimby final
poxmanful 2 months ago
@poxmanful Exactly...couldn't have been said better.
But these are are the main reasons why it made little sense to me for her to retire mid-year like that...why not just see what you can do for another year or two...and probably pass Margaret Court outright in singles?
QuadThreat85 4 weeks ago
@QuadThreat85 i agree ...i geuss when u had enough .....u had enough
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
@QuadThreat85 Greatness was not the intangible that concerned Graf. Perfection was. But when she became convinced she wouldn't produce any more perfect seven-round performances at the Grand Slams, she quit on the virtual eve of the United States Open.She had beaten the best for 14 years who could blame her for thinkinking "Maybe there is something else i could do". She just came of probably the Two biggest tournaments of her career ,and in the middle of all this she turned 30
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
@QuadThreat85 Regardless of the generation, Graf was a nemesis. No one could ward off her bludgeon of a forehand with any consistency, and no one could hit the ball hard enough, or place it strategically enough, to thwart her footwork. The New Age power players despised her slithering backhand slice and envied her icy composure and racehorse physique. The generation that preceded her simply bowed to her power.
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
@QuadThreat85 Martina Navratilova moved the game two steps forward with her athleticism and attacking game, and then Steffi took it one step further than that. I don't see anybody repeating what they did, and it's a very difficult decision to choose between the two of them, but in my eyes, Steffi was the best ever.''
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
@poxmanful I see everything that you're saying...it's just that I personally think that even though one cannot help their competition, one's competition does help shape their place in history.
It's the ONLY reason I put Sampras slightly over Federer...for example. Also, the reason why Serena has to be at least in the conversation with Martina, Steffi, & Chris, and if she somehow catches Martina & Chris, she will be no less than 2nd, and it's the reason why I put Martina over Steffi.
QuadThreat85 3 weeks ago
@QuadThreat85 I must admit I do have a problem with adding serena to the list. She has a play when i want mentality , her main competition was her sister and she isnt anywhere close to the others in gs victories or records
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
@poxmanful MAin competition was Venus, but by no means her only. Justine, Kim, Lindsay, & Maria (when she had a serve)? Those were all pretty tough competition, and they were all playing their prime tennis during Serena's career.
Considering the fact that it may be quite some time (if ever) that we see someone else win double-digit slams (thanks to the increased physicality of the game), Serena is for sure in that conversation...most experts agree.
QuadThreat85 3 weeks ago
@QuadThreat85 Graf ,in my opinion was the best, mainly because of her ability to win the lost match.She had this knack of almost losing then be able to get out and win.Her longevity and abilty to play on all surfaces must also be taken into account.
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
@poxmanful also, I agree with everything you're saying, but that only gives her the bid for the best woman to play the SINGLES game so far (which I have always agreed with). Tennis is not just a singles sport, and a person's ability to play and dominate singles, doubles, and mixed in the midst of stiff competition says VOLUMES. No one will ever do again what Martina has been able to do post open-era...Serena and Venus have been the only ones to attempt it.
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85
Tennis IS a singles sport.
One singles slam title is more worth than 10 doubles slams or 100 mixed doubles slams, wouldn't you agree?
Hoffenheim08 3 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 Tennis is not just a singles sport....I don't know what the fuck you're watching, but it's NOT tennis. Only when comparing a singles player to a doubles specialist is one singles slam more than that many doubles.....and even THEN it's up for debate...considering how a draw can open up for a player to win a singles slam...you're a FUCKING MORON!
Shriver > Majoli, Martinez, & Novotna COMBINED. Her singles record in the era in which she played speaks for itself.
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85 Pam had to play singles during an era where if your name was not Navratilova, Evert, or Graf, you were basically nobody. Yet, she STILL managed 7 SF and 1 F....WHILE she was obviously a doubles specialist! With that said, one can EASILY make an argument that she would have collected her lucky singles slam (like Majoli, Martinez, & Novotna), had she focused a little more on singles...which makes Navratilova's accomplishments EVEN BETTER.
My GOD you're delusional!
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85
99 % of tennis on TV is singles competition. Wonder why?
And of course Shriver would swap ALL her doubles titles for only ONE single slam title without blinking.
Hoffenheim08 2 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 Samantha Stosur....there's a perfect example in the modern game. She had to basically quit playing doubles in order to get a singles slam. Maybe Steffi was smart in a sense...because she realized early on that she would be lucky to have 12 singles slams let alone 22 had she focused on doubles as well...
once again, this is all why Martina is over her, and why Shriver's accomplishments are over those lucky one singles slam wonders that you think are SOOOO GREAT!
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85
Steffi preferred hitting with top male hitting partners to playing those funny doubles matches. Because she had the money to pay them. And believe me - that was far more demanding than beating up little girls with the help of Shriver.
Hoffenheim08 2 days ago
@QuadThreat85 if you bring doubles and mixed into the equation then absolutely nav stands alone as goat i have no problem agreeing with that singles on the other hand i say its a tight call between nav and graf but i give it to graf
poxmanful 2 days ago
@poxmanful
Most fans and experts give it to Graf.
Many Americans and gays favour Navratilova, though. For obvious reasons.
I can live with that.
Hoffenheim08 2 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 holy shit im from australia should i automatically give it to Margeret Court
poxmanful 2 days ago
@QuadThreat85
Davenport won her last slam in January 2000. Clijsters won one slam until August 2009.
In those 8.5 years Ivanovic, Jankovic and Safina were #1 at some point.
Yes, truly a great era ...
Hoffenheim08 6 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 Clijsters couldn;t win because of who was in her way. The same with Davenport....she was fucking no 1 for two seasons after her last slam win....
Everyone knows that the rankings have meant next to nothing since Justine retired when she did and fucked the rankings ALL UP....they are JUST NOW starting to be indicative of the best players playing right now, and it still has a long way to go!
6 players had a chance at no.1 this week....THAT'S COMPETITION, FUCKASS!
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@poxmanful
Serena played 46 slams in her career up to now.
And made the semis or better only 20 times. This is not even second tier ...
Hoffenheim08 6 days ago
@QuadThreat85
There is exactly one reason why you do this - you are a jingoistic American moron.
Who conveniently forgets Australian Margaret Court and downplays German Steffi Graf and Swiss Roger Federer.
Hoffenheim08 6 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 hoff steady on ole son no need to insult here we were having a friendly discussion
poxmanful 5 days ago
@poxmanful
I didn't insult you. At least not that I know.
Hoffenheim08 5 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 no u didnt i was refering to u saying to @QuadThreat85 you are a jingoistic American moron..
poxmanful 5 days ago
@poxmanful
Well, read his/her posts.
Sampras over Federer. Navratilova over Graf. Serena a GOAT candidate but not Margaret Court. That was the last blurb.
Not even talking about his/her long history of other outrageous posts.
Hoffenheim08 5 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 he's allowed to his opinion we dont have to agree
poxmanful 5 days ago
@poxmanful
Well, I'm allowed to my opinion, too. Which is - in this case - that Quackfred is a jingoistic moron.
Hoffenheim08 4 days ago
@poxmanful THANK YOU!
There are plenty of people who agree with me, and unfortunately plenty of people who I'm sure can agree with him.
Sampras over Federer because NO ONE dominated Sampras (despite his competition)....Federer cannot say the same.
Navratilova over Graf because she dominated ALL tennis disciplines simultaneously, not just one.
Serena in the GOAT discussion (but not the best), because of her achievements in the most competitive era the WTA has seen so far.
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85
No one could dominate Sampras on clay!
No one!!
(Because he always lost in early rounds .... )
Hoffenheim08 3 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 ...that's one surface.....most of the greats suffered on at least one surface....but there was not one player who consistently took him out of GS (or smaller events for that matter)
you'll never admit it, so what's the point?
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85 Graf does appear to be the execption and could master all surface but what you are saying is very true seles and lendl on grass are two excellant examples I believe it strengthens Grafs goat claim was her ability to play on all surfaces ,The way she got that way was a billion hours of practice with her work ethic and perfectionism meant she spent days weeks on practicing before touraments not a lot of players have that commitment these days
poxmanful 2 days ago
@poxmanful He'll never face the truth...all I'm doing is bringing up valid points (like he does sometimes) to back up my beliefs....but because they don't go in line with his, they are wrong, and I deserve to be ridiculed for it. HE even has to make MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS just to reassure himself that SOMEONE out there agrees with his BS!
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 ....you're fucking CRAZY. You really do sit here and have conversations with yourself. GET SOME FUCKING HELP, or KILL YOURSELF! The latter suggestion would probably be much less expensive, so go with that one.
Margaret Court is a homophobic wrinkled up snotrag whose career was INFLATED....MUCH more than Steffi's.
Federer only gets downplayed for one reason: You cannot consider someone the GOAT when their record against one player (amongst others) is THAT poor!
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85 So much for our friendly discussion thats gone right down the fuckin shittube and blown out to fuckin sea ,thanks hoff :) now back to fuckin tennis FUCK i fuckin reckon graf is fuckin goat cuz she has fuckin hotter fuckin legs than fuckin nav or fuckin serena fuck and who fuckin cares bout fuckin sampras fuck and fuckin fed fuck fuck fuck cunt faaaaarrrrrrrkkkkk
poxmanful 3 days ago
@Hoffenheim08 He can't beat Nadal even if Nadal comes out on one leg, and it's starting to look that way with Djokovic....but knowing you, you will REFUSE to admit that Federer is the same player now that he was 5 years ago, and it's just that the rest of the tour got wise and caught up to him.
Court had no regular competition, neither did Graf, and Federer didn't have any until 2008.
Get over the truth!...you're SO FUCKING DELUSIONAL.
Now take those comments and fuck off!
QuadThreat85 3 days ago
@QuadThreat85 i dont agree graf had no competition aranxta was like a bulldog on the court she would never give up and was very tenacious gabi was grafs old sparring partner from way back and to a lesser degree hingis and davenport were on their way up .Of course there was also seles nav and lloyd she did have a lot of competition and i believe the reason why people believe she didnt was because her and seles were so much better than anybody else
poxmanful 2 days ago
@poxmanful
Graf played Navratilova in 6 and Seles in 5 slam finals.
Plus Evert, Hingis, Sabatini, Sanchez.
Hoffenheim08 2 days ago
Martina's reaction at 5:55 while in mommy Hisgis' arms, is perfect icing on Grafs' cake! =)
Blasted by a walking legend!
markisb62 7 months ago
Graf's point @ 5:00 is PERFECT!
markisb62 7 months ago
@AntiFanBoy1 lol
markisb62 7 months ago
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I don't understand what all the booing was for! It's a perfectly legal service and thus well within her rights to use it and not forgetting she was in a competition to win, not a generosity contest. If you can choose when to slice or ball or hit a dropshot why not the underarm serve? Didn't know about it till today when suggested by one of the commentators in the Watson-Johansson SW19 match after Watson did her elbow, but I would like to see it used more often; then it wouldn't be such a taboo.
nzerempcp 7 months ago
@nzerempcp lool coming from a kiwi who prolly still bitches about the underarm bowling incident
poxmanful 3 weeks ago
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nzerempcp 7 months ago
1:50 a ghost is standing on the right side of hingis' half
PornobrillenAli 7 months ago
Hingis hitting a one handed backhand at 2:51 is THE BEAUTY
xx360 8 months ago 2
hingis was a bitch at 19.and now a whore.her mother could have aborted
anableps67360 8 months ago
@anableps67360 i'm surprised somebody actually had sex with her mother, her head looks like 1980s john mcenroe gone wrong.
leisurelydinner 8 months ago
Hingis is the Ana Ivanovic of the 90's!
simobgbgbg 8 months ago
They are all lucky. 1999 was start of Williams era, Steffi and Martina with this shots would be useless against Serena and Venus hits with too much power and precision.
MercuriePL 8 months ago
@MercuriePL
Yes, that's why Serena and Venus lost to greats like Testud, Likhovtseva, Suarez, Shaughnessy, Rubin, Jidkova, Farina Elia, Craybas, Sun, Hantuchova, Bammer, Chan, Srebotnik, Wozniak, Zakopalova, Jeyaseelan, Schwartz, Dokic, Mg. Maleeva, Schett, Raymond, Sprem, Bovina, Molik, Golovin, Karantantcheva, Pironkova, Vaidisova, A. Radwanska, Rezai, Chakvetadse, Razzano, Penetta, Cibulkova, Kvitova, Li, Suarez-Navarro, Lisicki, Kleybanova, Szavay, Bondarenko, Pavlyuchenkova in 1999-2010.
Hoffenheim08 8 months ago
@MercuriePL lol
markisb62 7 months ago
3:48 that was really disgraceful..shame on hingis
barrysteven 9 months ago
@barrysteven Why is it disgraceful... I think it's a clever move since everyone in Tennis is expecting the complex motion for a hard hitting serve.. Why not throw in a surprise ;)
Hitaru07 7 months ago
@barrysteven
Was disgraceful when Chang did it in 1989? He was applauded for it.
AznofDeath333 7 months ago 3
@AznofDeath333
Chang had cramps.
Hingis just wanted to say "F*** you!" to Steffi and the crowd.
Hoffenheim08 7 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 So? Even Steffi said afterwards that she thought the under-arm serve of Martina's was very good. Yes, Martina was childish, but she was only 18, facing not only the legend that is Steffi Graf, but an increasingly partisan crowd. I watched the whole thing years ago and it was actually heart breaking to see how confused she was about the way the French crowd treated her. Yes, she could be impetuous and rude but women's tennis really, really needs a Martina Hingis right about now.
adsj24 7 months ago
@adsj24
If you expect Steffi to say that Hingis is a spoiled brat and had it coming you don't know Steffi.
Hoffenheim08 7 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 I don't claim to 'know' Steffi, I simply pointed out something she said afterwards regarding the underarm serve. I wouldn't expect Steffi to resort to any kind of name calling, but that really wasn't the point of my post. If she didn't agree with Hingis' play then why say anything at all?
adsj24 7 months ago
@adsj24
She was asked in the press conference after the match.
What should she do?
Hoffenheim08 7 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 Be honest, perhaps? Which she probably was being anyway. She won the match, so why be bitter about something that's since become irrelevant?
adsj24 7 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 she just won her 22 grandslam title ........as if she cared
poxmanful 2 months ago
@adsj24 "...it was actually heart breaking to see how confused she was about the way the French crowd treated her."
Heartbreaking? Are you serious? You say Martina's childishness was justified due her being 18? Steffi won the French at 18 with no spoiled brat stuff (psst, 18 is an ADULT). She was facing "an increasingly partisan crowd", uh, hello, what/who MADE them partisan? Was she "confused" as to why? NO!
Okay you like her, but your comments drip with stupidity, & come FROM a drip!
markisb62 7 months ago
@markisb62 I'm sorry but was I rude to you in any way, shape or form? You don't know me so, please, keep your unwanted and uncalled for opinions to yourself. I actually wanted Steffi to win, and I think she thoroughly deserved it but I'm not going to pretend that the way the French crowed behaved was in any way justifiable. You simply have to look at the way the crowd has treated other players before and since then to realise it's not a one off event.
adsj24 7 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 True, just watch her watching Graf's gracious speech afterward. Her facial expressions say it all.
Of a certainty she was still at the point in life where she didn't realize French Open titles are WON, not GIVEN to you.
markisb62 7 months ago
Hingis tried the underhand serve a second time on the second match point for Graf. This video doesn't show that. She wasn't successful with it and even complained to get a second first serve. This shows what an unfair player she actually was as a teenager, without any respect for other players.
neunstof 9 months ago
Thanks for posting this as its always good to see Hingis getting beaten, especially as she got what she deserved that day as her attitude was terrible.
She will never be in the same league as Steffi!
pb123451508 11 months ago 3
@pb123451508 Well Steffi is a great champion but I think she is quite lucky. Her main rival was stabbed and taken out of the game at her prime.
shane802 10 months ago 2
@shane802 Hingis was lucky too. She won her Grand Slams while Graf was injured and before the Williams sisters started to dominate. The difference between Hingis and Graf is that Graf was a true champion
pb123451508 10 months ago
@shane802
Steffi wasn't lucky. I know of no other top player who had more injuries and illnesses than Graf.
She could have won far more slams than just 22.
Hoffenheim08 10 months ago
@Hoffenheim08 you are correct. Far, FAR more!
markisb62 7 months ago
@shane802 I think it's a little unfair to discredit Steffi at all due to the actions of that maniac. I know you said she's a great champion as well, but it seems unfair that it even gets brought up. Steffi was an epic player, and still would've been if her main rival wasn't stabbed - actually, I think having her rival present would've pushed her to even greater heights. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
StJimmy19 2 months ago
graf has such a pretty backhand slice :O
wayshow4 1 year ago 2
hingis number 1
lcious890 1 year ago
Die arrogante Hingis regt mich heute noch auf sich so ausfällig über die beste tennisspielerin aller zeiten zu äußern
Zum Glück hat die Gräfin ihr es auf dem platz gezeigt
allemagne92 1 year ago
i hate french crowd at fo always, but she should not have done that too. but for a 18 yo, its hard to take. ....
simplypqz 1 year ago
Graf was the beste ever
allemagne92 1 year ago
Graf was the best ever
allemagne92 1 year ago
What difference does all this make? THE FOREHEAD is very entertaining, whereas the NOSE is boring.....they are complimentary to one another.....
I like Hingis...she was fascinating, self destructive, prideful, full of hubris........she provided entertainment.......Graf was a fantastic player, but socially incompetent and totally boring......
each personality magnified the other.....and yes, the french are terrible, they always have been......
artisking 1 year ago
@artisking
That you are fascinated by a player who is "self destructive" and "full of hubris" says a lot of the type of person you are.
Hoffenheim08 1 year ago
@artisking I saw Hingis play live quite a few times, even at Australian open, she was anything but entertaining, I even heard comments at aus open at one of her finals of "boring", she had no explosive power, just bunted the ball around. Steffi was and is the most exciting and the best female player in history. To bring personal characteristics like her nose into just shows us your ignorance. Hingis finished her career by self admitting to Cocaine, attention seeker to the end.
justnatural 1 year ago 2
hingis, what a rat face brat, so happy she never won a GS after this
Mirren81 1 year ago
3:48 although I cannot appreciate this underarm service by Martina and her general attitude in this particular match it is obvious that the French crowd is biased. In 1989 Michael Chang got away with the same trick against Ivan Lendl but Chang had the whole crowd behind him. Well, people might always stick to the underdog...
kalurank 1 year ago
@kalurank Steffi got away with 90% of the crowd behind her. 90% of the crowd applauded on Martina's unforced errors! So, let's not talk about sportsmanship here! You are here for drama and entertainment, this is paid sport which gives winner the MONEY and FAME!
If only this match played somewhere else e.g. Wimbledon, I can't help but wonder (just like Carrie Bradshaw) what the outcome would be!!
nethkt 1 year ago
@nethkt
Yes, I don't think Steffi would have struggled so much against Hingis.
Maybe a 6-3 6-2 win in about 60 minutes?
Hoffenheim08 1 year ago
Steffi's footwork comes from another planet. Terrific.
yoanlag 1 year ago 8
@yoanlag
you forgot her forehand
PrishtinaHottieee 1 year ago
1:46
Steffi's epic WTF face xD
DEBASUHR 1 year ago
@AntiFanBoy1 Not.....
karrtt1234 1 year ago
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@karrtt1234 What the fuck is your problem, going from video to video to attack anyone who doesn't agree with you or you don't agree with, asshole?
twilliger123 1 year ago
@twilliger123 Speak for yourself ! Was that comment for you??? Just made because someone didn't agree with you on another post.... now who's the asshole ?? CHILD
yescanto 1 year ago 3
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@yescanto go fuck yourself with Hingis's racquet, bleed and die, fucktard!
twilliger123 1 year ago
steffi was so cool with hitting slice backhand winners on a regular basis :)))
imho steffis game and rogers game really have a great similarity: both one handers with grace and wicked slice and powerful forehands
and seles and nadal, thats at least what I think cause of their totally unique style: both leftis (or wannabee :)) with kind of two forehands if u know what I'm talking about
note: just speaking about style, dont bash me with statistics
thorium222 1 year ago 5
this was probably the beginning of the end of Martina's career - she never fully recovered from this, neither did her image. Really sad in some ways, she didnt win another slam. And back in 97'-98' everyone was talking of the greatest talent to ever grace the game - she faded pretty quickly
haasxaar 1 year ago 2
@haasxaar i dont think Hingis ever recovered from this loss.. it was the worst display of sportsmanship i have ever seen in tennis ..
leeatseaham 1 year ago
i just think it is amazing to win 6 french opens, and just hit slice backhands, that has to be some slice haha
wingra10 1 year ago
I love me some Martina!
EnzoF288 1 year ago
Tennis is Tennis. People you don't like win, people you love win, after all it is a sport, and sport is fun, everything after that has nothing to do with Tennis
Prolife29 1 year ago
steffi is a legend but nobody cares about hingis, she did well when graf was ageing and seles stabbed but the williams sister kicked her butt, know ur place little girl u went as good as u thought
MrJamestuart 1 year ago
@MrJamestuart
First get your facts right.
Seles wasn't stabbed anymore in 1997-99.
Graf won 7 of 9 matches against Hingis (77 %), 2 of 3 post-1997 (67 %).
The Williams sisters won only 17 of 34 matches against Hingis (50 %).
Hoffenheim08 1 year ago
Woow Hingis is so little lol
Obelisk1990 1 year ago
graf is a pusher
chrisak49 1 year ago
stupid Hingis
egg1080 1 year ago
Happy Birthday Steffi!
lookscudkill 1 year ago
Falso y maricon
hattrickster33 1 year ago
@hattrickster33 fake and gay!!!!!!!! ray hahaha
cruz111 1 year ago
@cruz111 Haha finally someone got that reference
hattrickster33 1 year ago
@hattrickster33 of course i speak Spanish and i saw that video :-)
cruz111 1 year ago
@cruz111 lol epic win
hattrickster33 1 year ago
i'm not saying martina did well in this match but i remember being an asshole when i was 18 too,and i didn't have half the preasure she had all her life...
danijerez 1 year ago
No players with two handed backhands have the guts or foresight to hit a topspin one handed backhand and catch their opponent off-guard. As for her behaviour, how many people haven't done things when they were teenagers that they regret? Chances are that you weren't caught on television and booed by a crowd of 1000s.
campbellama 1 year ago
What a great match this was.
nkye111 1 year ago
Anyway, the French was great for Graf - the first and last Slam she won, 12 years apart. How's that for longevity?
shirgen6 1 year ago 18
Was this the match before which Hingis called Graf 'old', and something along the lines of 'a new era without Steffi Graf was coming'?
shirgen6 1 year ago 2
since when serving underhand is cheating?
djollyboy 1 year ago
Its not cheating, but pretty much 100% of tennis players agree that its "unsportsmanlike". So when one of them uses it, its kind of an under-handed tactic.
deanobrown2006 1 year ago 9
@djollyboy
It is not a cheat. Michael Cheung already did that when he won the French Open. No one criticized him. Poor Martina.
beavertown2006 1 year ago
@beavertown2006 I guess because he was winning? That doesn't logically justify it though.
hattrickster33 1 year ago
love the underhand service, ppl should use that one more often!
lypofwat 1 year ago
the french crowd hated it. i would feel bad if i were hingis, i mean isnt hingis french? lol
djollyboy 1 year ago
swiss, donno how to type that, the country that was neutral in worldwar2 :P next to austria
lypofwat 1 year ago
Honestly the French just love to boo players - they'll do it with the slightest provocation
StewNWT 2 years ago
Great one hander BH deep by Martina at 2:53
StewNWT 2 years ago
I love this match! Tennis has temperament! :-)
1meter65 2 years ago 2
@ 3:48 the underhand serve!!! my goodness martina!! couldnt u think of an ace instead thats cheating lol!
UZRA098 2 years ago
ppl only seem to remember the bad about martina they don't remember her saying this about steffi do they
"She was a great legend, an icon and still is," " . . . We were not like sisters, not best friends. We both had the same goals. But everybody is going to remember her as Steffi Graf, the great.""steffi is the great shape of sport of all time"
JamieOwen3 2 years ago 7
@JamieOwen3
In the press conference after the FO 99 final Hingis said: "People don't understand my tennis because it looks so easy. Steffi is just a runner."
But when Steffi retired Hingis had some nice words, at last.
Hoffenheim08 2 years ago 34
@Hoffenheim08
welll hingis herself is not an einstien either...
prdunj 1 year ago
@Hoffenheim08 hingis is just a drugger..report show she use Cocaine
egg1080 1 year ago
@Hoffenheim08
i sort of understand what hingis is saying in this comment. her tennis looks easy but hingis played more in her head than any other player i can think of. she was small and not as athletic as graf or the williamses but it was hard as hell to win against her bc she used time, your weaknesses, spins and angles to her advantage. i have much more respect for her than any other tennis player bc of that. the way she played was like 99 percent mental.
holocaustik 11 months ago
@holocaustik we are not discussing wether Hingis or Steffi were great tennis players or not, they Indeed were and are and will be two of the Greatest tennis players ever. What we all see, and it has nothing to do with mental skills or tennis itself, is that Hingis had a horrible attitude in and out of the court, she never showed respect for her rivals even when they played better, and in press conferences, she was totallly out of the line, and noone that plays and and enjoys tennis can deny that
sebas20111 9 months ago
@holocaustikwe are not discussing wether Hingis or Steffi were great tennis players or not, they Indeed were and are and will be two of the Greatest tennis players ever. What we all see, and it has nothing to do with mental skills or tennis itself, is that Hingis had a horrible attitude in and out of the court, she never showed respect for her rivals even when they played better, and in press conferences, she was totallly out of the line, and noone that plays and and enjoys tennis can deny that
sebas20111 9 months ago
@sebas20111
i know exactly what you are discussing. the attitude of hingis-duh. my comment was more in line with what hoffenhheim quoted hingis , the part about her tennis not being understood. i side with hingis, no matter how rude it was or out of line it was i get what shes saying. she can speak her mind just like anyone else.
holocaustik 9 months ago
@holocaustik I think you're right about Martina's game. It was deceptive because she didn't hit the ball hardest, didn't have the best serve (indeed a weak second serve), so how did she get to be number one, let alone dominate the game for a good while? For the reasons you said - her cleverness about the game. But it wasn't obvious to the casual observer the way Steffi's great forehand is. Still no excuse for Martina's arrogance and rudeness, although I liked her when she came back, more humble.
Dylvente 9 months ago
@Dylvente
well yeah martina was definitely arrogant and rude but the way i look at it is what 16-18 yr old isn't cocky about something that they do well? she was young and stupid in that regard.
holocaustik 9 months ago