Adult GTI? New VW GTI Road Test by Inside Line

[ThePirateMD]

dear edmunds, start learning to launch faster. It almost looks like you had traction control on

[czf21]

They for got 2 add extra space for car fuck

[MsChevro]

GTI

MSchevro

[AveryPlaysBass]

Well, 0-60 is a tad bit faster with the DSG AUTO. Add launch control and ive read of 0-60 in 6.3-6.5. Slower than a Mazda? Yes. Easier to live with than a Mazda? Definitely. Probably getting this car soon.

[zerooneonefive]

I have a 2011 GTI and i've gotten a much faster time then 6.9 seconds.

[Fitsmaurice]

6.9? i did that in my GLI going slightly uphill!!! The GTI easily 6.5-6.7

[psmTARDCORE]

@Fitsmaurice lol? so the GTI should be doing a low to high 5 second 0-60 then? get real kid.

[Fitsmaurice]

@psmTARDCORE where did you get high or low 5? I don't see that on my comment. Read before you post. I said that GTI easily 6.5-6.7!

[AudiophileTubes]

That is slow. My 2003 24V VR6 GTI hits 60 MPH in 6.5 seconds. I have 18 inch rims that weight 30% less than the 17" 'Monte Carlo' stock rims.

[luminaeus]

My 2011 GTI came with Pirelli's, I swear, they're made out of glue.

[5cmpersec]

All season tires..... even switching from sportcontact 2 to potenza r760 made a noticeable difference in acceleration and cornering. Front wheel drive cars need good tires to save it from overloading the front tires too easily..... I'm definitely ditching the potenza for sportscontact 5p next time around.

[SakuraLionheart]

anyone else want to punch the dude in the face at the last comment? Surely if you want something comfortable you should get the diesel or a non gti model, no wonder they've went downhill since the mk3 it's all these arseholes "I don't want a sports car so ill get a golf gti" how about piss off so we can have some gti's that actually handle plz

[Midknight1124]

0-60 in 6.3 is more like it

[SRQshark]

Would have been a better test if they used the Pirelli summer tires and the DSG

[speacialperson12345]

6 speed is the way to go, more fun

[CoonBabble]

so i have 31,000 dollars. Bmw 128i or Volkswagen GTI

[speacialperson12345]

@CoonBabble did u drive both?

[aaronchungrulez]

@CoonBabble gti is more practical, BMW is more fun, but kinda annnoying cause its a coupe, which is hard to live with every day. and if its the european hatch version, look at the rear seat room ahhaha. theres none. GTI all the way

[CoonBabble]

@aaronchungrulez well id get the gti as a 2 door as well, but i agree the gti has alot more room in back. friday im off to test drive the 128i, ill let you know how that goes. i just like rear wheel drive... and i saw a vid of an a3 (with the same 2.0t)and it just couldnt keep up with the little 1 around the twisting roads

[jtjdt]

@CoonBabble GTI.  Just search for GTI vs BMW on Youtube

[FromGreeceWithL0ve]

@CoonBabble bmw my friend :)

[CoonBabble]

@FromGreeceWithL0ve i went ahead and got the 128i. inline 6. naturally aspirated. rear wheel drive. all stuff i like alot about bmw. i got mine for about $34,000.

xenons and saddle leather. harman kardon sound, sport package. thats about all i figured id ever need.

[banstaman]

Any news on the GTD coming to America?

[juukame]

funny how the diesel golf has better skid pad and slalom figures...something seems off.

[nelson4568]

not being able to fully override the stability control is inexcusable? maybe for the track but they do for those who dont know what it is dont turn it off while driving making it more dangerous...this faggot not only is ignorant but doesnt know how to drive

[americanstylefreak]

Why the heck is it Rabbit in America? Can't they just call it Golf like the everybody does.

+ it does go a faster than 6.9 seconds to 60 mph, get better tires and someone who can drive a shifter decently.

[hadabenz]

Volkswagen GTI is always 100% perfect recipe. Not so much you will puke not so little you will demand more.. it's just perfect, just test driven the MK6 today it's absolutely brilliant.

[bobrec3GTI]

those are horrible 0-60 figures.

[howardflight09]

@bobrec3GTI also brake figures

[deadhead02420]

its actually 0-60 in 6.0

[UberWagen]

The new GTI still ain't a Mk1/Mk2 GTI and never will be. Those were the only real GTI's ever built.

[bobrec3GTI]

@UberWagen nahh the MKV is a real GTI. not the MKVI

[AudiophileTubes]

@UberWagen I had the MK2. Although it was fun and 'tossable', i'd still rather have a more refined, quality made Mk4 to Mk6. I owned a '332' GTI for a few months (my brother totaled it), and that MK4 was one sweet driver! Fast as balls too!

[archangel76106]

i love this car!

[TheCursedhell]

The reviewer looks like a slim mirko cro cop :O

[epistte]

I do appreciate the tuning but I miss the barely house broken feel of the 1983/84 GTi that I drove in college. I can tell by the shalom that the tires were giving up too easily and I don't like the excessive brightwork of the interior.

The weight of this car screams for the added power of the VR6.

[evanescent03]

these cars are good looking and seem pretty high quality. i just wish they were a little quicker ... for the performance model it just seems like they could've been a little more bold.

[mista925]

after adding a massive load of features to my fiesta, the final price came out to be 21k... luckily for me, I only reserved the car...I might as well get this car at that price right?

[lickmyfart]

yeah these specs are not the real ones.

[blatsucka]

in the march issue of "motor trend" in the article "spring chickens" they test this same dang gti ON ALL WEATHER TIRES 0-60 in 6.0 flat. Go look up the article, it's nice. Also includes the new Lancer hatch, wrx hatch (as fast as the sti) and the ms3.

[blatsucka]

@blatsucka

Well that one had the DSG>

[umrahsahab]

Everybody commenting on their 0-60 and braking might want to think about the particular roads that Edmunds drives on. It makes adifference

[BlueCrystal021]

i love hot hatch backs :) i drive a 325 sedan (which is amazing i think); there are times though when i wish i had a cute little hatch back

[bieli0]

@BlueCrystal021 sell your bmw and get a GTI :D i promise you won't regret it... just go test drive one. (test drive it without the dealer/sales rep in the seat... ) catch ma-drift :)

[BlueCrystal021]

@bieli0 haha i always test drive stuff with out the sales person in the car! its hard cause i'm a pretty new driver; but my dad comes with me and its not an issue. we test drive stuff for fun sometimes : ) ... ya i know, but i like my 325, plus it has awd and i really need that here. i'm gonna get an intake and a re-bore of the engine from Dinan this summer so it'll be more powerful soon! .. you have a gti?

[bieli0]

@BlueCrystal021 yup.. an 03' 1.8t... where i'm living in VA it's awesome on the back roads... and it's only 10min from DC. ordered suspension and it's HERE TODAY!!! can't wait to throw them in!

[BlueCrystal021]

@bieli0 congratulations! very cool : ) 6speed i assume? what colour? wow, i'm surprised you have the money for a new suspension even after buying the car! thats pretty neat. i'm gonna have to save most of the summer to afford the mods i'm planing!

[bieli0]

@BlueCrystal021 5speed. i paid $8k for it. bone stock (just how i wanted it) from a guy that didn't know what he had. it had 32,400 miles when i bought it. bought RS2 B&G suspension... ya ain't dubbin if ya ain't rubbin..

[BlueCrystal021]

@bieli0 5speed on a gti, really? i'd never heard of that... wow, ya you got a deal (unless of course the guy wasn't telling you something big!). i got my car with about 34k for 20grand- i'm making payments for 5 years- but it did come with a warranty. i've put close to 25 and change on it since i got two Christmases ago!

[ceetee1459]

0-60 in 6.9? They need better drivers!!

[MrTestNTune]

@ceetee1459 Yup I think you'd a got that thing into the low 5.7 to 60 MPH !! haha :)

[maxou5757]

WTF !! These are 17 inch all season tires !! Braking and handling results would have been much better with 18 inch summer tires!

[blatsucka]

@maxou5757

You're right. The times and the results for braking and lateral skid suffer from the tires, but it's what comes from the factory- unlike say, the r32.

[thehouligans]

its not as good as it should be because you tested the four door version dumbass

[horn36]

another fail car.. why can't they keep the cars the size they use to be.. -_-" fail fail fail

[blatsucka]

Why are EDMUND's review times i.e. 0-60 and 1/4 times ALWAYS way SLOWER than everything else i.e. road and track, car and driver, motortrend... They need to hire some real drivers.

[enice482]

Yeah, ALWAYS slower. I've never seen them even match the other reviews.

[luke26126]

@blatsucka ya i dont think they use pro drivers or good drivers for that matter

[nelson4568]

@blatsucka if you look at consumer reports, they said the skid pad is 55.5 mph

[nelson4568]

@blatsucka slalom*

[hondacivicsi09]

@blatsucka true my o9si wi ll blow it

[hondacivicsi09]

@blatsucka true my o9si wi ll blow itin any given situation and is nicer inside

[georgio941]

@blatsucka That could be good and bad. Putting normal drivers behind the wheel would denote what most people can typically expect to get out of the vehicle. I don't think most people would want racetrack numbers by professional drivers advertising the car to be far superior in the hand of the few.

[howardflight09]

@blatsucka 1st, they don't know how to do a proper braking test and secondly, they don't do launch starts. It is when you press the brake fully down and rev the engine at the same time. Release the brake, and accerlaration is much quicker. in a proper brake test, you should press the brake STRAIGHT down.

[hydrogaz]

All season tyres on a Golf GTI ? Are you normal?

[adogg619]

The shift indicator light always telling you when to upshift is annoying. I know it's for economy purposes but still, unless your engine makes a lot of low end torque you don't want to be in too high a gear at low speeds.

[iRnoCracker]

jesus the new e63 stopped like over 10 feet shorter than this car lmao, the e63 weighs like 4300 pounds

[WilliamWoods80]

The GTI shouldn't take over 113ft from 60-0... Blame the driver!

[datkoolbrutha]

I still like the 2dr hatch.Not really a big fan of the 4dr.

[GurlPowerZ888]

nice looking

[trlalli92]

HELL YESS, the GTI-R is gonna have the audi TT-S motor, 265 hp, 4 motion. TIS GONNA BE BADASS

[AudiophileTubes]

No shit? When is this one slated for release in EU and/or USA?

[AudiophileTubes]

I'll keep my 2003 24V VR6 GTI, thank you! It's been as reliable as a Toyota, with no problems all these years, and it looks Euro/German. 60MPH comes in 6.5 seconds too. I'm still hoping VW comes out with an all out, 'balls to the wall' GTI in the coming years. Maybe 250HP, 230 ft/lbs torque, 0-60 in 5.5, etc. etc.! I'm dreaming!

[Johnyboy775]

that's what the GTI R is for ;)

[POKEMEX07]

@AudiophileTubes well i am hoping for the vw12 gti concept to actually be sold

[35yearoldboy]

Is it called just VW GTI in the states?(not VW Golf GTI)

[l8tbraker]

If the test car has the all season 17" tires, it would get better braking and slolom speed with the optional 18" wheels with summer tires. Also, the test car is a 4 door, the 2 door is lighter by 80 pounds. The seats may look lame to some but offer lots of adjustments and are very comfortable.

[BlackTransAmdude]

The slalom speed looked promising

[dnur567]

is this car really the best hot hatch money can buy?

[skbuoy]

probably not. Mazdaspeed 3 is a good choice also. Honestly I would get the VW anyways.

[carsaregood911]

It's the best OVERALL hot hatch you can buy.

[tom666araya]

He states that the poor braking was due to the all season tires. So how about a part 2 follow up video with some sticky summer tires.

[sspope]

Somethink stinks here. Caranddriver actually got better handling numbers for the Gti

watch?v=0IGWFFpI88o

Or is it the tyres?

[paulb4uk]

Best thing with golfs is the are reliable and well made plus they never seem to age even the original still looks great.

[mrjost55]

RELIABLE? VWs have pretty poor reliability.

[coolerdude44]

@mrjost55 they don't really have poor reliability, they're just a bit unpredictable. you get people like you damning them to death, but others say they've only owned vws, keep them for 200,000 miles at a time, and love them.

today, most of their american models are made in mexico, which is why they're unreliable. the gti i think is made in germany.

[mrjost55]

I dunno. I've been on GTI forums long enough to see all the problems people have with them. And I'm talking about Mk5. Fuel line rattle, DSG problems, diverter valve problems, etc... The MK6 already has a leaky rear wiper from the factory. :D

[fcoledezma]

Cars are unreliable due to their engineering, not because of the country they are assembled... you ignorant moron !!

[AudiophileTubes]

@fcoledezma... Negative. It has been well established, for decades now, that country of origin has a LOT to do with quality. Take Japan, for example. Most reliable cars since the late 1970's, and well documented.

[fcoledezma]

Mexico is well known for just assembling products not for developing them, there are few or none engineering facilities in Mexico, as for to say I happen to work in one of the very few technology centers in the country.

[coolerdude44]

... you're an idiot. the only unreliable mercedes and bmw came from america, and when volkswagen decided outsourcing their manufacturing to mexico and brazil they became unreliable too.

the bottom line is that the americans, mexicans, and brazilians don't build cars as well as the germans.

i'd agree with you if most of vw's problems came from the engine or suspension, but 9 times out of 10, it's an electrical problem and that's factory error.

[fcoledezma]

No BMW or Mercedes aren't produced in Mexico asshole at most they are imported as SKD kits, all are imported built and assembled directly from Europe on purpose to avoid quality issues, Mexico only produces as Brazil cars for VW and GM...

[coolerdude44]

why don't you actually read my comment? "the only unreliable mercedes and bmw came from america" that's what i said. not mexico, moron.

the build quality on the mk1 mercedes ml and mk1 bmw x5 was atrocious, and they were the first german cars to ever be made in america.

[fcoledezma]

To retool a product in some other country is not actually to be made in America, quality derives directly from design... first learn about product development...

[bobrec3GTI]

no you are actually because the gti is built and assembled in Germany

[ecmcomichael]

Make mine the 270 hp Type R.

[taylor1212eminem]

my 0-60 time in my mk6 is 6.4 with dsg

[OneOfaKind949]

This is kind of off topic... but if Mazda puts the Speed 3 engine in the MX5... then we really have a fun car on our hands.

[InsideLineVideo]

Great comments. Thanks for the feedback. Keep on telling us what you think!

[rrpl430]

@InsideLineVideo i think your videos are a bit short, but very nice anyway and your test results are very solid, a bit more about porsche would be nice

[maxinator39]

@InsideLineVideo

Sure!

This car sucks!!!

[coolsun888]

Y the same dam rims!

[seroyer2]

I think the Mazda speed3 is a better car.

[Propel3453]

Thats a lot of HP for a little car.

[sidewayznut2009]

I'm not a hot hatch buyer but it would be hard to buy between this and the Mazda this looks alot better but I think it would have to be down to test drive or brand preference.

[wildbloodydragon]

"Some of us prefer it that way."

I don't.

[microeatkill]

look at those ugly ass seats!

[decamerondix]

more like awesome-ass seats

[zachray263]

I would rather have those seats than the face on the Mazda 3

[microeatkill]

@zachray263

gotta agree on that

[zootoo63]

not a fan of the rear tail lights. dont like the red over white..

[sirberner12]

GT R

[She11y]

It's a nice car but it has the most awful looking seats ever

[lalibilalibiwith]

domesticated??? its still GERMAN! I REALLY WANT THIS CAR! best looking leather seats for a small hatch

[Howie262]

well actualy is this a miss conseption...

its not to quik 0-60...

but its dam quick 30-80. unlike most japanese cars...

Because this has a great Torque curve theres no down shifting needed. its a great car performance wise....

not to mention you can CHip this thing for pennies on the dollar and get it popping up to 250 hp or 270 hp easy....

This has a great engine, you can tune the shit out of it and its solid. the Mazda is fun and cheap, but its more of a "duct taped on turbo"...

[colombia3229]

u know japanese cars arent even fast at all not even the exotic cars are as fast as u think except for the supra and the new lfa

[SammerJammer]

really duct taped on turbo? really?

have you ever been in one? that was the dumbest thing I have ever heard

[chromebomb]

i love my 2008 gti so much fun to drive

[Ji99i3]

this is probably the best review theyve done in a long time. good job

[gasfgiop]

oogliest seats ever

[campanozzi55]

loveeeeeeeeeeeeee the car

[aznXsoldier]

I can afford whats on the background at 2:46

[JoeBird76]

Lol. Good man...Good man

[XFXBoard]

What's the cost of this new GTI?

Is it the same as an 1.8TFSi A3?

[FueledbyStriker]

For the price ill get a Mazdaspeed 3

[bennychan723]

what about R20....

[Goremaster]

It's sure to make you...SMILE !

[BIGGIEDEVIL]

great car till you see the price tag

[TheAbcd1234mk]

golf mk4 is STILL my fav!

[IDannyxss]

I am totally with you on that

[danodien]

no i ment the new "R" , google it ^^

[ijlal88alpha]

loved it ...... nice car

[sirberner12]

type R

[patrickkroell]

Golf R32 is the seeex :P

[tomatoe58]

i really really want one!

[Ravefox]

I love the GTi.Its a practical car that can run fast and also be comfortable! Its awesome!

[spenseravery]

Nice review. You compared EVEYTHING, but the PRICE??

[bedbugg1]

Golf Golf Golf!

[PANJOSS]

Very good host and car either!

[hadabenz]

Hey I like this Host... he's a good reviewer... and what a car... not too brutal in terms of power, but just perfect with no lags... Awesome Car, Awesome Heritage !

[SEPPi416]

it is an good car in all ways, but the acceleration from 0-60 is better than shown

[filipinofantasy]

plaid seats?

[danodien]

I would rather get the Golf R

[sterlingnobles]

@danodien R20

[DrewII]

bahahahaha gti. this one sounds like a flop.

[NigguhJason]

Good review, but I think the numbers for the 0-60 might be off? I believe the GTI can pull better numbers from 0-60.

A 2008 Acura TSX can do 0-60 with a 6spd manual in 7 seconds. Engine specs are N/A Inline4 205HP.

Now I only think the GTI can pull better numbers from 0-60, because a N/A 205HP car can do 7 seconds, while a turbo charged hatch can't seems a little odd to me. I believe the GTI is at 6.5~6.3 0-60 thanks to the turbo. Unless it gets turbo lag.

[thuglife4ever721]

There is no tubro lag. VW has made sure of that. =]

[legendray2008]

This car is really cool .. & deserves its price

I don't care about split seconds in acceleration ..

& this new guy is a good reviewer.

[stephenrichy]

i thnk ill jus go pic one of them up tomorrow while grocery shopping

[lamontrene]

nice but pricey