yeah, Rabbath's system is much more open then Simandl's as it provides multiple fingerings for scales rather than just one absolute system. I also like how it encourages hand pivots, which I've always done rather than shifting small distance. I've had it recommended to me by both John Clayton and Larry Grenadier, so as a jazz bassist I definitely prefer it.
Haha! It's funny how worked up people get on this topic. :) (I wasn' the one who negative marked you BTW)
I have to say that I slightly prefer Simandl for most things, but I will say it is NOT a great book for beginners even though it has beginner concepts in it. I think the beginner etudes Rabbath gives keep new students more interested at first. However, I do think the Simandl etudes are a MUST for anyone interested in Classical. There is good in both methods. I think people should know both.
@manny75586 and PanicGreenDayMCR after studying both methods, the Rabbath method is more interesting, hits bowing technique, intonation development and is just more practical considering the instrument, granted you can take things from both methods (and the MANY other methods out there), but because the Rabbath method is a lot more interesting it is easier to have fun with, and as a musician i can say i improve a lot more when i'm having fun.
If you do decide that you'd like to try one, I'd suggest getting a teacher who is experienced with fitting laborie endpins for students and let him make sure that you get the right size endpin and that you are holding the bass correctly.
His endpin isn't bent, it's inserted at a 44 degree angle behind the traditional bass enpind. This type of endpin-the Laborie endpin- allows equal access to all the strings without having to shift the bass compared to standing up with a traditional endpin and puts the bass in a more open position.
Imho, I would say it does due to having the bass in a more open position which makes the transition to thumb position more comfortable. Do you play bass?
There are quite a few people who have looked into it and studied it, but don't use it exclusively, and apply it within the context of, per say, simandl.
i saw him at stoony brooke university on long island, he's amazing, i play german bow, but watching rabbath makes me wanna play french just because he makes it look so easy and graceful
Actually, i know some basses who use the rabbath method and they have developed carpel tunnel because of the un-natural hand positions taught in the books of rabbath. Im not saying that all positions cause carpel, but some of them do.
the point is you said you don't see Rabbath getting carpal tunnel. Motetftw says that people who study Rabbath's system get carpal tunnel from unnatural hand positions. Actually there are no unnatural positions in the Rabbath method. People get carpal tunnel from poor hand position. They would do well to do things the way Rabbath suggests.
Have you ever seen that Family Guy where Peter Griffin meets KISS? This is like that...but it's me going, "Rabbath....you....our....GGOOOODDDDD!" and then bowing shamelessly to the master.
I want to meet him. I'll even meet a guy who met him.
jacobr512 2 months ago
He's performing with us at University of Southern Miss. Pretty stoked, even though this was pretty out of tune
tristan01101 4 months ago
Francois Rabbath wrote all of my double bass books and i think is probably one of the best bass players in the world
hps4316 7 months ago
I don't care what all the Simandl proponents say about Maestro Rabbath.The man is
awesome and untouchable! Now bring the noise!
CarlosMacMartin 9 months ago
ah this is Le Cri de Venise
StopTheMoti0n 1 year ago
WHAT IS THIS SONG CALLED??? i must know... this is amazing..
StopTheMoti0n 2 years ago
I went to this concert =]
tapdancinxbassplayer 2 years ago
grande Rabbath!
strangerheart 2 years ago 2
I picked up the Simandl Book and the Rabbath
Book 1.Coming from the electric bass,I really
like Rabbath's layout of the fingerboard,rather than Simandl's Half Positions,which I found more
confusing.I have no desire to be a bassist of the
classical style & wanted a simpler technique.
CarlosMacMartin 2 years ago
yeah, Rabbath's system is much more open then Simandl's as it provides multiple fingerings for scales rather than just one absolute system. I also like how it encourages hand pivots, which I've always done rather than shifting small distance. I've had it recommended to me by both John Clayton and Larry Grenadier, so as a jazz bassist I definitely prefer it.
iplaytehbasspipes 2 years ago
Not all people will agree as you can see that my
previous comment was marked as negative! Man,
someone is hyper-sensitive or just plain close-
minded.I could care less though & will follow the
New Technique.I just wish whoever marked my
comment would have the nuts to confront me.
CarlosMacMartin 2 years ago
Haha! It's funny how worked up people get on this topic. :) (I wasn' the one who negative marked you BTW)
I have to say that I slightly prefer Simandl for most things, but I will say it is NOT a great book for beginners even though it has beginner concepts in it. I think the beginner etudes Rabbath gives keep new students more interested at first. However, I do think the Simandl etudes are a MUST for anyone interested in Classical. There is good in both methods. I think people should know both.
manny75586 1 year ago
@manny75586 and @CarlosMacMartin studying both methods, the Rabbath method hits bowing technique, intonation and is more practical for the instrument
ceescake 1 year ago
@manny75586 and PanicGreenDayMCR after studying both methods, the Rabbath method is more interesting, hits bowing technique, intonation development and is just more practical considering the instrument, granted you can take things from both methods (and the MANY other methods out there), but because the Rabbath method is a lot more interesting it is easier to have fun with, and as a musician i can say i improve a lot more when i'm having fun.
ceescake 1 year ago
it was him and Scott from living end that made me start double bass
PanicGreenDayMCR 2 years ago
:) Relative of mine.
fcrabbath 2 years ago 2
really? tell him im doing Iberique Peninsulaire for my year 7 exam, hes a genius
helisto 2 years ago
I own his "Art of the Bow" DVD and really liked his
philosophy about the relationship between the
student and teacher.I don't know him,but would
conclude based on what I viewed ,that he is "one
of a kind" and a true human being.I hope I can
learn his technique from someone in my area!
CarlosMacMartin 2 years ago 2
Georgeous Sound - wish I had it.................angled endpin looks like it helps as well....something I am thinking of looking into.
TonyBurrell2 3 years ago
If you do decide that you'd like to try one, I'd suggest getting a teacher who is experienced with fitting laborie endpins for students and let him make sure that you get the right size endpin and that you are holding the bass correctly.
thedbassist 2 years ago
is his end pin bent or is that just the camera angle ?
miketretiak 3 years ago
His endpin isn't bent, it's inserted at a 44 degree angle behind the traditional bass enpind. This type of endpin-the Laborie endpin- allows equal access to all the strings without having to shift the bass compared to standing up with a traditional endpin and puts the bass in a more open position.
thedbassist 3 years ago
so this mean it is easier to access the upper end of the strings, yes?
miketretiak 3 years ago
Imho, I would say it does due to having the bass in a more open position which makes the transition to thumb position more comfortable. Do you play bass?
thedbassist 3 years ago
i c i c, yes i do play
miketretiak 3 years ago
Or you could play on a low stool : )
bassmeisterD 2 years ago
even thought i love his music, i would have to say that not a lot of bass players follows his technique.
echozoolo 3 years ago
There are quite a few people who have looked into it and studied it, but don't use it exclusively, and apply it within the context of, per say, simandl.
crwv 2 years ago
Wow.....he was at Ball State and I had no idea.
CamMcIntyre 3 years ago
can someone what is the name of this piece?
lvmzxc 3 years ago
It's Le Cri. It's on his album "In a sentimental mood" and the dvd Carte Blanche.
thedbassist 3 years ago
god i freaking love him! i had a private lesson w/ him in july. it was amaaazing! im learning to play Reitba by him right now <333
SummertimeTaylor 3 years ago
i saw him at stoony brooke university on long island, he's amazing, i play german bow, but watching rabbath makes me wanna play french just because he makes it look so easy and graceful
plustom 3 years ago
i've met him also. :) he's a really great guy, just like a teddy bear!! my best friend and her step dad are REAALLY good friends with francois.
2marineboundgirls 3 years ago
i meet him, he taught me amazing things!
Bassplayer450 3 years ago
Great music, great playing.
eldoctordeltac 4 years ago
Does anyone know, how this track is called?
Basswoman89 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure it's called the Cry of Venice, but not positive.
ninacolada10 3 years ago
Le Cri
thedbassist 3 years ago
this guy is amazing
ive accompanied him in the Paganini Variations by Proto, he is stunning
speaking of which, does anyone know where i can obtain a recording of him playing the 9 Paganini Variations by Proto? (either cd or dvd)
cheers
DonMadman900 4 years ago
i like gary carr better
jdthebassmanissick 4 years ago
yeah im an edger meyer fan and gary karr fan as well, i'm not too into rabbath method. but he is a musical genius without a doubt
ahug4you323 4 years ago
o my gosh how can you NOT be into the rabbath method. did you know he taught himself, btw?
cellolove7 3 years ago 2
Actually, i know some basses who use the rabbath method and they have developed carpel tunnel because of the un-natural hand positions taught in the books of rabbath. Im not saying that all positions cause carpel, but some of them do.
Motetftw 3 years ago
then how come rabbath has never had carpel tunnel? i bet if you do it right, then nothing bad will happen.
cellolove7 3 years ago
Carpal tunnel comes from poor hand position.
bassmeisterD 2 years ago
....i know.
cellolove7 2 years ago
the point is you said you don't see Rabbath getting carpal tunnel. Motetftw says that people who study Rabbath's system get carpal tunnel from unnatural hand positions. Actually there are no unnatural positions in the Rabbath method. People get carpal tunnel from poor hand position. They would do well to do things the way Rabbath suggests.
bassmeisterD 2 years ago
that's u r choice
qpwlalf82 3 years ago
for Rabbath recordings do a Google for Liben Music. Its run by Frank Proto.
MrChuck52 4 years ago
He's really cool! I know him. He's a really great player and composer and person in general.
cellolove7 4 years ago
oh my goodness saw him in nyc in the 70's @ carnegie hall he had ornette coleman as a special guest....
jackdelawack 4 years ago
does he play in orchestral tuning? or solo tuning? or viennese(h/e u spell it) or what?
PlagueInfestedCheese 4 years ago
I think orchestral tuning.
cdavidg9 4 years ago
In a interview, he said that solo tuning is rubish.
I don't agree, but yea, orchestra tuning is what he does.
mcnaire2004 4 years ago
I do agree with Mr. Rabbath about solo tuning. We play the doublebass, if you want to sound like a cello, just buy a cello! :-)
With modern strings solo tuning is a nonsense. But gut strings are really thick, that's why bassists in the past preferred solo tuning.
eldoctordeltac 4 years ago
Agreed!
musicalywhoo 3 years ago
Wow! this music keep vibrate my desk. This Music has a power by not using force. Its wonderful!
Woodwind007 4 years ago
what can I say....Rabbath, maestro de maestros!
dubbelbas 4 years ago
does he teach anywhere??? i'm just getting into his music.
cdavidg9 4 years ago
I believe the piece is "Le Cri", his own composition.
shaken666 4 years ago
françois rabbath, grande por siempre.
kontrabasso2006 4 years ago
amazing, Thanks for the great post!!!!!
Anyone know whats the name of this piece? I'm guessing its one of his works
CaravakisBass 4 years ago
WOW! Amazing! Powerfull! Beautiful! And the sound from his bass, I love it!
9012osem 4 years ago
I wish I knew were I can see a live performance. That was some powerfull stuff.
mcnaire2004 4 years ago
You'll have to find him cause I just lucked out by him performing at Ball State.
LadyLori610 4 years ago
yes! more videos of françois rabbath!
1985Zann 4 years ago
Best. Video. Ever.
bigdonkey002 4 years ago
Who is know abaut rabbath's bass maker ?
zimoo73 4 years ago
Charles Quenoil.
bigdonkey002 4 years ago
Merci
Je savais que il a une quenoil mais avec ce dvd dans lequel la basse se voir comme une muslet
qui est le luthier à Lille en France.
En tout cas je vous remerci
zimoo73 4 years ago
Anyone know what piece Mr.Rabbath is playing here??
cclevela 4 years ago
Please,more videos of Francois! Truly amazing player!I
recommend viewing his DVD "Art of the Bow". Pricey but
well worth it! A great teacher and human being!
CarlosMacMartin 4 years ago
One word: The Best ever!
olivierrabbath 4 years ago
Have you ever seen that Family Guy where Peter Griffin meets KISS? This is like that...but it's me going, "Rabbath....you....our....GGOOOODDDDD!" and then bowing shamelessly to the master.
BSUmusicman 4 years ago