Michael Savage calls out Al Gore and explains why global warming is a scam

[achaserofrocks]

Nobody cared about global warming util Al Gore made a movie about it and then it became a political issue. Because Gore is a Democrat, Republicans assumed global-warming must be a far-left conspiracy. how funny

[007chucknorris007]

@achaserofrocks Well, that and it is an extremist liberal view.

[ash4432]

awwe savage your climate scienctiest. koch brothers and exxon will love you if you will read real reports it took over a thousand years for that ice to melt its call orbit factors. savage you smuck listen carefully carbon dioxide can trap heat from the sun you putz can you debunked that.

[gamefreak1000000]

@ash4432 Look. Who cares about global warming? Who cares if it's real or not? I know for a fact it's not real, but even if it is, why go in debt because of it?

[15hmael]

Answer : Milankovitch cycles

[gnossticc]

We indeed have little or no control on the climate I agree with Savage...On the other hand there has been a gradual deterioration of forests, destruction of animal species, etc which needs to be addressed. Al Gore is a total fraud!

[TheBoxingCannabyte]

Can anyone here tell me why we are able to detect ice ages in the first place? Or why it is important to drill into the ice and analyze the ancient and trapped air bubbles deep within the ice? Or why (and how) we know that both polar ice caps are melting right now for the first time?

[mentaloaf]

@TheBoxingCannabyte If the polar caps were melting right now for the "first time" we would still be in the last ice age...I'm sorry boxingc, but you're all over the place with the questions you're asking. It's important to study glacial ice because it's a perfect way to look into the past, and what they've found is that the temperature of the Earth has been fluctuating for millions of years regardless of how many times Al Gore farts...

[mentaloaf]

@TheBoxingCannabyte Also, go do some research into the Mt. Pinatubo eruption in the Phillipines in 1991. That eruption released more so called "greenhouse gases" into the atmosphere in 3 days than the entire human race has since the beginning of time, and guess what?  The global temperature temporarily DROPPED as a result...

[MissEVitale]

The chem trails funded by tax dollars are causing weather change though too so this is one of the ways people are being scammed to believe the weather is changing. so it isn't all just a nature mov and being used to scam... there is a weather program going on right now obama gav 25 million dollars of tax dollars to and china leads the serious chemicals being dropped. Research more than what this guy is saying...

[MsZeitgeist85]

Savage. George Galloway would kill you in a debate but your are too pussy to ever face him so stop talking like this.

[quadcatfly]

gore is a fraud....

[VitalSigns1]

I don't get Michael Savage's point at the end. He seems to be making the case FOR global warming, since the ice melted.

[properwired]

@VitalSigns1 Jesus you fool he is pointing out climate changes and has changed without man having anything to do with it. The polar caps on Mars were decreasing the same time we had a temp increase on earth are you claiming man did that - logic and thinking you want to try it its good for you

[VitalSigns1]

@properwired Hey listen you dumbfuck, no on claims that global warming is all man-made. If Savage ADMITS that global warming DOES happen in nature, why is he calling it all a scam??

[properwired]

@VitalSigns1 Because climate is driven by guess what the sun not air and its actually been cooling clobal warming is to make retarded people think people stealing your money is for your own good. I think you a very stupid indervidual unable to use very basic logic to form opinion you need others to spoon feed you info and I think you are stuck in a state on infancy

[ImprettysureImright]

@VitalSigns1 He's calling anthropogenic global warming a scam. Not saying that it doesn't exist in nature. Obviously it does, the planet heats and cools through very radical temperature shifts over hundreds of years. The living organisms on Earth play a very miniscule role in these shifts. It's mainly do to our sun going through it's phases and ocean currents. AGW is merely a scam to tax people and business for existing. Wise up, man. They are using our love of this planet against us.

[Richard482]

@ImprettysureImright Im pretty sure your wrong. Watch Potholer54's series on the subject if you haven't already

watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo

The series by Greenman3610 is also informative.

[VitalSigns1]

What would be the point of a global warming scam??  Michael Savage comes up with the most crackpot ideas I've ever heard of.

[narutocaprirequest2]

@VitalSigns1

money you fool, its called a global carbon tax look it up.

[MrSharkey11]

@VitalSigns1 , To make hundreds of billions of dollars you ignorant asshole! Wake up and smell the coffe brewing you ignoramous!

[VitalSigns1]

@MrSharkey11 Hundreds of billions of dollars?? You're so stupid it's unbelievable. No one makes money off of global warming. Name me ONE person who profited from global warming.

[MrSharkey11]

@VitalSigns1 , Stupidity such as yours does not merit a answer! Do your own homework you dumb liberal !

[VitalSigns1]

@MrSharkey11 So, how about that name? 

[rajy09]

@VitalSigns1

google.com/videoplay?docid=-59­49034802461518010#

[jeffhickman10]

@VitalSigns1 Al Gore. There's one person. Obama's buddies stand to make windfall profits if Cap and Trade goes through. And who id footing the bill for this nonsense? We are! Global warming is a THEORY, a HOAX, a FAIRYTALE. If you want to go broke paying for that, be my guest. What's next, a tax on Evolution?

[ImprettysureImright]

@VitalSigns1 Al gore.

[jonnyg28]

@VitalSigns1 wow really? How abourt Al Gore and Jeffery Immelt?

[RichardMNixon]

Al Gore isn't a scientist, he's a fucking publicist. If you want to debate someone, find an atmospheric physicist you arrogant fuck. I don't think visiting a rainforest gave you more insight into atmospheric physics.

Yes, the Earth's temperature does change, resulting in melting ice. That kind of change doesn't happen in 100 years as it has been this century, you stupid fuck.

You do know shouting louder and using more insults than your opponent doesn't mean you win the debate, yes?

[v213ix]

someone should get michael to debate either gore or obama and put it on pay per view! i would pay to see that lol

[wogdoggy]

another fake crisis to raise your taxes abd divert the middle classes wealth..WAKE UP SHMUCKS he's right..savage is just good old fashioned common sense what dont you liberal get? LOL...common sense ?

[Diostelibre]

Global warming is a liberal scam!

[nickburzo15]

ok this guy needs to die if this asshole wants to debate on how humans are causing global warming tell this pussy to call me up and ill tell him striaight up wats good and yea we had ice ages before but there getting worse and other ice ages werent followed buy a warming of the earth we did that ourselves so fuck u cocksucker not everyone is a con artist just u and no shit they kicked u out of england cause nobody wants u please go hang urself

[yury2268]

@nickburzo15

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the "15" in your user name represents your age

[nickburzo15]

@yury2268 i did 4 years ago cocksucker

[yury2268]

@nickburzo15

whats with all of the hatred? life isn't going to well so you troll around the internet and vent your anger with meaningless hateful comments? move along now kid

[RichardMNixon]

@yury2268

You're defending a Michael Savage video from anger and hateful comments? Have you listened to Savage speak? In this video he spent 40 seconds of insults between claiming to have a point and making it.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

Angry liberal is angry. Why do you hate Michael Savage so much?

Because he's more successful than you and you are nothing.

[RichardMNixon]

Again, I'm amazed that your problem with my comments is that I'm angry while you idolize Savage, the angriest man I have ever listened to.

No, I don't care about his success. Get over yourself, there are heaps of people more successful than this asshole.

I'm angry because he's an idiot pretending to have understanding of something he doesn't. Climate Change is real; humans are at fault. That is the scientific consensus. Denying that makes you a conspiracy theorist on par with 9/11 truthers.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

I have a bachelors in Biochemistry and a Masters in Climatology, I know more about atmospheric physics than your entire family tree. I don't even know who this Savage person is until this video.

"that is the scientific consensus."

Really, if it's so true. Why did the Climate Shysters, I mean scientists at East Anglia cook the books?

When you answer this question, you would have realized that you are a hypocrite.

There is no consensus. Science is about CHANGE, not consensus.

[RichardMNixon]

They didn't cook the books, Climategate was media bullshit.

For instance, "Mike's Nature trick" to "hide the decline" deals with the decline in temperature according to tree rings since the 1960s. There was no actual decline in temperature just a divergence between recorded temperature and tree ring data.

The researchers were investigated and found not guilty of any wrongdoing. watch?v=Ztcl7roLlnk

Science changes yes, that doesn't mean we're going to decide tomorrow that gravity doesn't exist.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

LOL, the old Richard Dawkins argument. I like it. First of all gravity, the theory of quantum gravity, is no longer a theory, it ceased being a theory ever since Newton's apple fell on his head. IDIOT. The theory on GLOBAL WARMING is very much a THEORY. Since the overlying consensus of the Academia, primarily climate scientists, DO NOT AGREE with it. Climategate was media bullshit? Let me guess, it was Fox News who hacked East Anglia?!

HAHAHAHA, you are a true chinless wonder.

[RichardMNixon]

You clearly don't know what quantum gravity is as it's very much unresolved. IDIOT. The point I'm making is that just because science changes, doesn't mean there can't be consensus. Scientific theories aren't hypotheses, they're models that explain most or all observations. An overwhelming majority of climate scientists DO support the theory according to a survey by Anderegg, Prall, et al in PNAS v107n27.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

You clearly know nothing about Science or Scientists for that matter. Anderegg, Prall, et all are bought LOCK STOCK AND BARREL. BY THE IPCC. The PNAS is just a front-group, covering and backing up the claims of the IPCC. Even the IPCC chairman himself, said he lied into saying that the world will end, and mega-disasters would occur in 2007, in order to get backing from the UN and Prince Schmuck Charles. Idiot. Al Gore, don't make me start on this shyster.

[RichardMNixon]

@Romansteel13

And right back to where we started. You're a conspiracy theorist, plain and simple. "Them evil scientists are all working together to scam us!" Now you're again going on about Al Gore. I doubt he ever said the 2007 thing, but I don't particularly care because I don't give a shit about Al Gore and I think Prince Charles is a world class dunce.

If you knew CO2 trapped heat, why did you write that the biosphere is unaffected by it or that only noble gases affect Earth's temp?

[RichardMNixon]

@Romansteel13

"Prince Schmuck Charles" sounds an awful lot like Savage's manner of speaking, so I'm also calling into question your claim to not be a fan of his.

Coincidentally, Savage and Charles are both big fans of homeopathy, another grand crock of shit along with climate change denialism.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

Didn't know MS, invented the word Schmuck. Thanks for letting me know though. I thought it came from the Yiddish ethnic minority. Homeopathy is a crock of shit?!

haahahhaahahahhahahahahahahaha­hahahahahahahahahahaha.

I thought you were naive and dumb. Now this is just pure comedic gold.

Einstein said that Hahnemann was one of his greatest idols, he had portraits of him, Faraday, and Newton in his study hall.

I guess you're smarter than Einstein.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

Al Gore the biggest shyster of the century, said in Congress, that New York City would be under water by 2007. What year is it, moron? 2010, NYC is still fine, from where I can tell. Idiot. Everyone knows that CO2 traps heat, that's second grade science. I'm glad, that your Science teacher put you up to this debate on youtube. Oh, yes. John Tyndall, we all know about him. Mr. Radiant heat himself. Diamagnetism and GHE are not mutually exclusive.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

Let's get down to science, what do you know about atmospheric physics? You do know that CO2 is required for life to flourish on earth? That the biosphere, stratosphere are unaffected by it. The only way the atmospheric temperature of the planet to change is through control of noble gases, which I will agree to some extent, does change the environment. A kelvin difference in temperature is not enough to melt Antarctica my chinless, wonder.

[RichardMNixon]

Thank you, Einstein, I know plants use CO2. Apparently you're unaware of the ability of CO2 to trap atmospheric heat. This is the greenhouse effect. It is an undisputed, scientific fact, as of John Tyndall's research in 1861. At this point I have to ask you where you got your MS if you're out of date by 150 years.

No, a K will not melt Antarctica, but it will warm the oceans, which then release more CO2 into the atmosphere. It's hypothesized that this feedback loop made Venus the way it is.

[Romansteel13]

@RichardMNixon

"Gore is chairman of the firm and, presumably, draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he "buys" his "carbon offsets" from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself."

If this GW scam is pushed through. We will have a technocracy like no other, are you aware that Gore, currently runs and owns most "non-profit" green organizations. He stands to profit the most.

[substance1952]

It is illogical to conclude that because there has been global warming in the past that was not caused by human activity that the current global warming is not caused by human activities. This argument is equivalent to that there were extinctions of species before people existed, therefore people had no part in the extinction of either the dodo bird or the pasenger pigeon.

[gamingeagle19]

@substance1952 the fact of the matter remains. There have been periods of the Earth where it cooled down and heated back up to extreme temperatures all before mankind even created anything that could even remotely to global warming. Any warming or cooling now is natural. At the very least we simply sped up the process a bit.

[wowplayer6541011]

wait...what

The Ice accumulated due to the flow of warm water to the north pole ending because of carbon causing a green house effect and melting the ice caps

The warming, causes cooling in the long run, it is a cycle however we accelrrerate it

we dont know what ends a ice age, but it sure as HELL ain't carbon

in the atmospere

and there is NO way we are ready for an ice age

and "cripple our contry" CRIPPLE?!?!

some european contries are better of economically speaking from going green

[stagpeacebringer]

Science has been massively misinterpreted by the masses over the years. In Nazi Germany the children were taught that Jewish people were sub-human. All kinds of made up anatomy, like the Jews had "smaller brains" and all that garbage. "Jew Rats" was the propaganda. Once upon a time blacks were thought to be only 8/10ths human to justify slavery. MY POINT: Science has been abused this way, why is it so hard to believe that global warming is a similar issue. Especially with that Al Gore.

[spin12]

So just to repeat Mr. Savage, I answered your questions. Care to comment with actual science? Or are you going to rant some more?

[spin12]

How can you believe we are cooling? That is just not true. NASA and NOAA and for that mater APS have the global temperature data available on the web. Just look at it. You people are insane.

[ptangboy]

They are all on the payroll my friend. You may not want to believe the politicians and president have no concern for you but that is the case. There are highly intelligent and experienced scientists that simply express with honesty and humility that Al Gore is a fraud. . It is hard to swallow, but you mean nothing to them - so much so that they dont care if you find out about their lies and despise them,,, so long as they make a bilion dollars in the end.

[spin12]

ON the payroll of the US, why yes, they are federal agencies you idiot. If you don't trust them, then you can also look at the Royal Society in Britain or the French National Academy, the German Academy or for that matter the American Physical Society - which are all non governmental agencies. There is no conspiracy. Just the science. You black helicopter people need a dose of sanity.

[ptangboy]

In the end only time will tell the real truth, by then though you wont even have a constitution or rights. You have already lost so many in the name of security. Is it really that hard to believe that your government is dishonest. Climategate will expose anything that was fraudulant in the global warming studies. It does not look good for your argument right now.

[spin12]

The real truth is to be found in the actual data. You could you know, do the super secret thing we scientists do, which is look at it, understand it, and know some science before stupid and false things. I know the concept of reading books and papers, remembering what they say, and being able to to basic math must be alien to you - but try it. Really, if you think I am lying about the data - go look at it! How's that for hard?

[joygarner]

Only FALSE data needs to be hidden and deleted.

[spin12]

Right which is why no data was hidden or deleted. You could look at the actual papers it was published in rather than relying on lies and smears taken from misrepresenting stolen emails. Or you could continue to make things up with out ever challenging your stunning ignorance. So really, look at the data. The real data. Check out NASA or NOAA websites. It's right there for you to see. No one is hiding anything.

[joygarner]

You honestly believe that they made no attempt to hide the data, and that they did not claim to have "lost" it? Clearly you're afraid to actually read the entire emails with the complete threads, and the actual code with the programmer's notes. I have. I know what the "context" is.

Pride is one of man's greatest weaknesses. Most people are unable to look at the possibility that they are wrong.

your name says it all "spin". Spare me the repeat of Gore's canned lies. I've already heard them.

[spin12]

Well yes, because all of the data you are talking about was included in their peer reviewed journal papers, which I actually have read. Just because you read some stuff on some denier blog doesn't mean you know science, and no, you did not look into the science, and no, you do not know their code, and no you do not and have not looked into the actual data. And if you knew any physics you would know that spin is a quantum number.

LOOK AT THE ACTUAL PAPERS. READ THEM!

[TheBoxingCannabyte]

@ptangboy, actually, your argument seems to be the terrible one. Please explain to me what Climategate is, in your view. I'm really curious. Because anyone who thinks that global warming is a lie is someone who clearly has no education within the sciences that we use. I doubt you could even name me one without having to go to google.

[mentaloaf]

@TheBoxingCannabyte What's your question here? Name you one what? Off the top of my head, climategate were a series of emails from some of the lead global warming scientists that openly told other scientists to hand pick the data that supported the theory of anthropogenic climate change and leave out the data that didn't support it...Straight up FRAUDULENT science, you cannot argue otherwise..Now I ask you, if the science speaks for itself, why would they have to cherry pick the "good" data?

[joygarner]

Well the UN has admitted that there has been "no warming" for 15 years.

I am sure you're aware of the all the record low temps around the world, and the fact that in the last three years, the icecaps have recovered and are the same now as they were 30 years ago? Are you aware that polar bear populations have more than doubled in the past 20 years?

[spin12]

No it didn't. That is a lie. A total lie, and even if it had, the UN is a political body with many flaws. The world science community is quite clear however on these things. Why not actually look into it rather than being so ignorant?

[ptangboy]

Like I said spin12, time will tell. What do we have to lose by investigating the methods and practice of the scientific research. Their main reason for us not to is that the apparent imminent demise of human life doesnt warrant the time. Its a scare tactic, it goes on in playgrounds and its obvious this is no different - a big playground of immature and greedy children. In one sense I am saying lets wait and see what comes of the investigation and in another sense I am saying "you will see"

[ptangboy]

did I mention that NASA is getting sued and also investigated by Imhofe for fixing their numbers as well. Oh yeah, there going down to. Its going to be like a dominoe effect for the next few years, one by one they all fall down. You will see.

[spin12]

Ummm Inhofe is a creationist energy company shill who is making another pathetic publicity stunt. Please the man doesn't believe Evolution happened and you trust him to understand a damn thing about science? It's laughable. But more seriously, he was one of the 30 Senators who voted to protect KBR from getting sued by rape victims. So sure, He's ignorant scum, but you trust him over the world wide scientific community. Care to look at the actual data? Why is it I keep harping on that?

[ptangboy]

I actually find it interesting that nothing is mentioned about big oil in all of this. I dont doubt that Inhofe has personal interest either. I would rather see the outrageous political and financial scam of global warming come down than have big oil out of the picture. Honestly, the true effects of your new bills and taxes will be the straw that broke the camels back. You know it, everybody knows it deep down. They can feel it, unless they have taken drugs to "medicate".

[spin12]

Right because polluting the planet, bringing a global ecological catastrophe that will leave millions homeless and without food or clean water is better than no longer sending billions to countries like Saudi Arabia and Venezuela that hate us. I would think that developing domestic energy and not supporting actual communist and terrorist regimes would appeal to most people. Even on the politics you people are insane.

[ptangboy]

Its one thing to debate whether global warming exists and quite another to pass such bills as they are and have. There is a heavy political involvement in all of this. Even if global warming is a fact, it doesnt explain the taxation process and the inevitable carbon trading. That is the main fraud of all of this.- the same amount of co2 will be emmitted only by India, Mexico and China. They will get a large percentage of your industry sector because they dont have a treaty agreement at COP.

[joygarner]

UN gets it's "science" primarily from the IPCC.

I'm just reading off of the headlines.

This one was cute, straight from the New World Order shills, the BBC:

Scientists say Sun has no affect on temperatures. Tell that to Mar and Jupiter, both planets had the polar melts at the same time as ours. I suppose next, the "esteemed scientists" will announce that the Sun has nothing to do with the fact that is gets warm during the day.

Read up on solar flair cycles; Sun gets hotter, we get hotter.

[joygarner]

Hey spin, have you looked out the window?

DC and Copenhagen: record lows, and record snows.

Your ego is so wrapped up in being "right" that you've lost your ability to trust your own senses. It is sad.

[spin12]

Would you believe that even with AGW it still gets cold in winter? It is just is cold on average for longer periods of time. Go tot he NOAA website and look for yourself. You will see that this is true - and has been for decades. But that would be looking at actual facts and we know that idiots like you can't be bothered to do that. You are a fool because climate is not local weather. You are a total fool for refusing to look at the data before entering a science discussion.

[ptangboy]

I have looked at the data. bring it on.

[spin12]

Ok, so then you know that the Earths temperature has been steadily raising for decades. Go to either the NASA or NOAA website now and say differently. PIty we can't link web addresses directly in these.

And that is the end of that. The data are quite clear. So no kiddo you have nothing to bring.

[ptangboy]

Temperatures rising? That is not arguing man made global warming. That is arguing that temperatures have gone up, which is debatable in itself. When scientists or anyone else manipulates data, which they did - I read the context also - there is a good reason.

[ptangboy]

I hope you U.S. citizens realize that your president just gave authority over to the UN. The COP treaty will be enforceable by the UN,, an outside private agency - an unelected, untouchable governing body that works along side the banking sector. If you default on payments they can come in and tell you how to live your life.. all the while being funded by banks and having no governing body. Its open dictatorial powers. You want this body that is implicated in fraud to have authority over you?

[ptangboy]

Amazing how the IPCC and UN claim the sun has NO effect on temperature. We really do all know that the sun is not distributing even intensity without fluquations. We all know it but some people decide to outright lie and say it has no effect. ITS A LIE. These politicians are ruthlessly mitigating your future away and they are wagering countless human lives in the process. The worst part is that once the con is done there is no way out because its legally binding. This is way bigger than it looks

[joygarner]

You said it Ptangboy.

UNELECTED governing body with total control over all commerce, all life on earth. The top "climate adviser" to the UN is the President of the World Bank, and he has no scientific background. Not that it matters, scientists are so easily purchased these days.

[ptangboy]

I want to point out also that the same group of control freaks involved in this fraud are highly supected by 34% of the U.S. public for the 9/11 attack. 34%, it is no longer a conspiracy theory. WE ALL SAW IT!!!!!! THEY COMMITTED MASS MURDER ON THEIR OWN CITIZENS. It is so sick. Anyone that saw the footage knows it was planned. It is like a movie set. Lights, camera, action.... and building 7 falls down, perfectly folding in on itself and no plane struck it. Its the same people doing this fraud!

[spin12]

Oh that's brilliant... so you believe that the UN bombed the world trade center and now is behind AGW science as well in some weird master plot?

Do you take medication for your delusions. I hear Lithium is recommended for those with schizoid fantasies like yours.

[ptangboy]

who sayed UN? I never said the UN is suspected for the 9/11 attacks. Money runs this world, if you think otherwise you are naive. The most money in this world is owned by a small group of people that want total control. That is what this tax is about. Nothing to do with global warming. We heard Obama saying "climate change" now instead of "global warming". It no longer is the sales pitch slogan for immense taxation and control by a ungoverned, non-elected body. You dont want to see the truth.

[ptangboy]

Everyone knows all of this, there just too gripped in fear to stand up to it. - thats all part of their plan. This is too obvious unless it is safer for you to remain in denial. Its not safer anymore though and you know what I mean by that. Ignorance to the fraud that goes on in politics is becoming increasingly dangerous for you. Ya, someone like me points out the blatantly obvious and many like you deny it and then defend these monsters. Then when it all comes out, you find some way to forget.

[ptangboy]

There is really nothing to fear though because its all a bluff by them. They know they dont actually have power without illusion, so once the illusion is destroyed they are all rendered powerless. They thought they were getting away with the biggest and most clever scam EVER. Then something happened they never expected - hacked insider emails - blew up the whole thing. Just look at Obama in COP speech - hes guilty and its all over his face.

[ptangboy]

The debate is not about global warming, thats a smoke screen to the real crime that is going on in the treaty agreement - the legalities that always come back and bite you after you sign on the dotted line. The U.S. public just bought a "house" infested with "termites." Only YOU didnt buy it. Your leaders spoke for you as they do in dictatorships. Now your on the hook for it though. And everyone applaudes and has that greasy smile on their face all the while they know they just got fucked.

[ptangboy]

I dont live in the U.S. but I cannot stand by and watch this criminal and inhumane dictatorship make greedy decisions that later lead to millions of human deaths. They are going to fail miserably, thats for sure, but it will get ugly before its over. Like children caught with their hand in the cookie jar, they have the cookie now and arent willing to give it up. This is the exact same scenario.

[ptangboy]

Now there going to try and go ahead with the fraud anyways even though its blatantly obvious - just like the child caught with the cookie, it runs away from you cramming it in its mouth. Thats what there doing right now. Thats how pathetic these people are. And they know from countless cases, that the U.S. public will know about it but will feel too helpless to do anything. This has been in the plans for decades now and there is no way there just halting it because they were exposed.

[ptangboy]

Lithium? That is very similar to Mercury in its side effects. Do you know what both of these chemicals do to the human brain? They dumb it down, its a poison to the human body. And it just so happens that Mercury is in the Swine flu vaccination. That is fully disclosed and we all know Mercury is bad for us. It damages the nervous system and brain. Everything you say leads to another scam that your precious leaders are running on you. Scam doesnt even cover it though, its crimes against humanity.

[wakenbacen]

@ptangboy i didnt get a vaccination just for that reason

[wowplayer6541011]

@ptangboy whats strange is that there actually were some swine vac's that didnt have [insert harmful chemical

(these ones were pretty much clean of EVERYTHING)]

but they were given to soilders and in some cases pregnant women

Shotage of safe supply in crisis doesnt mean conspiracy still, that vaccine was a bad idea, poorly prepared

[joygarner]

It's BECAUSE I looked at the data that I am entering the "debate". It get's colder in the winter now, than in 1998.

Next you'll say I believe the earth is flat, or that man never walked on the moon.

BTW: Gore keeps saying that anyone who doesn't believe in global warming also believes the moon landing was staged. He should tell that to Buzz Aldrin and George Schmidt, both walked on the moon and neither one believes the GW scam. Schmidt is actually an award winning geologist at NASA as well.

[spin12]

Uhuh,

You are actually right that 1998 *was* the warmest year on record. That is until 2007. You have not looked at the data - in fact, even your lies are out of date.

However, local temperature is not climate.

that means year to year variations are not the point. 2000-2010 was the hottest decade on record. It was hotter than the 90's which were hotter than the 80's which were hotter than the 70's.

I not only believe you are as stupid as a flat earther, but that you can not read graphs.

[RocketManF4]

the hottest year was 1934

[spin12]

Uhh no that would be a lie. Do try to look at the actual data. No one is hiding it from you. Just look at either NASA or NOAA or any of the major Science organizations websites on this. The data are quite clear and quite public and immediately show you are just making stuff up.

[spin12]

Typo

Would you believe that even with AGW it still gets cold in winter? It just is *NOT* as cold on average for longer periods of time.

[ItsNotMyBong]

Spin12, you MORON ... we're in a COOLING trend. And, Mr. Proud PhD, you should also be painfully aware of the fact that, historically speaking, CO2 levels have always FOLLOWED warming periods rather than precede them. I believe Mr. Savage had people like you in mind with his rant here ...

[spin12]

Again, why not look at the actual data? What is wrong with you people? Do you think that all the thermometers in the world are in a communist conspiracy? This is just insanity. Next you troglodytes will be telling me that Intelligent Design is science too... pathetic.

[kbi35]

Do any of you older folks remember the new Ice Age scare in the 70's?? Scientist claimed we were heading for another ice age due to all the pollution blocking the suns rays.. Now it's global warming..

[spin12]

What a delightful group of ignorant and arrogant fools! CO2 is a GHG. It traps IR. It must to do this because of the nature of its molecular bonds. It is a consequence of its construction.

Therefore, if you dump gigatons of it into the atmosphere it must cause warming.

Thinking that it would not cause warming is exactly akin to thinking that dropping a ball would not cause it to fall, or that taking a match to gasoline would not cause it to burn.

[msqtube]

except for the part where the man made portion of CO2 is minuscule (less than .03%) and the fact that water vapor also absorbs most of the same wavelengths.

and then of course there the diminishing returns for example if 1 unit of CO2 blocks 50% of wave X then 1 units of CO2 don't block 100% of X it blocks 75% of X

SO, adding some CO2 doesn't hurt anything, in fact it helps the plants grow, and I like that. a little warmer ain't all bad either.

[spin12]

Ummm no. The small amount of CO2 that existed at the turn of the last century accounted for about 50 degrees of heating. Of course atmosphere matters when heating a planet. Why do you think the moon is so much colder than Earth?

It is a simple calculation - well it is simple for people who can do things like calculus, but it is straight forward. The fact is that we have increased CO2 by nearly 50% since then. Of course it has an effect.

[joygarner]

The moon is both warmer & colder than earth. No atmosphere. During the preCambrian period, we had far higher C02 than we do now. Rise in temps, RESULTS in higher C02, not the other way around. Increased C02 is a result of more life.

The IPCC claims around 4.2% increased Co2 since the industrial age began.

The massive increase you're talking about were the result of coming out of an ice age, which created more life, which equals more Co2. This is what we REALLY learned from the ice cores.

[spin12]

That is such nonsense, I almost don't know where to begin. Why not look at the actual Keeling curves, which are direct spectral measurements of concentrations. We have increase by more than 4% in the last decade.

None of you read actual science do you? So I will explain it to you idiots. Scientists look at actual data. We write papers about it. We peer review to make certain it is correct. We even discuss all of our methodology.

Hacks like you make up lies. You are just lying.

[joygarner]

Constantly telling people they are "morons" doesn't persuade anyone that your facts are accurate, but reduces the chances anyone will listen to you.

I have reviewed the actual "data" and code used by the IPCC. No sane person could reach the same conclusions they did, using their own data. That's why they didn't want anyone to see it.

[spin12]

Nonsense. And it is also a lie. Had you actually looked at IPCC, or any of the supporting papers, you would know the data is accurate, that none of it was hidden and that a complete and true story is told. Would you care to explain how gigatons of CO2 have no effect? Would you care to explain how your political ravings make quantum mechanics stop working? And the solar flair thing is nonsense too. Spare me. Stick to basic physics and explain how doubling CO2 could possibly do nothing.

[postchevelle]

spin12, you should ask for a refund from your university.

[joygarner]

For five years they HID the data, refusing to disclose ANY of the raw data, or the formulas they used to make their assumptions. When finally ORDERED to hand it over, they said their computers had dumped it ALL, everything but their final assumptions. Yeah, "the dog ate it". THEY LIED. The code and data was ALL there the whole time! Now it's published on the internet. It's just that no rational person would reach the same conclusions they did, based upon that data!

[spin12]

No they did not. The data was published in peer reviewed journals with the complete methodology - as is standard for any scientific paper. You are insane.

[spin12]

Well, to answer your question without all the invective, and yes I have a PhD, unlike you..

Past warming and cooling cycles were primarily driven by orbital variations.

We are not currently in such a cycle and we can calculate them quite well. In fact, we should be cooling right now as far as such cycles are concerned.

However, we are warming steadily. That is the direct result of the emissions of the industrial age. This is shown by numerous data sets and the actual science.

[MaxwellVigant]

I would direct your attention to the leaked emails of people adding temperatures and making sure information does not get in the wrong hands. How can you say what is rising when the people in charge of giving you the information have been deleting portions of it that do not support their theory. You are a doctor and I ask why do you not want to look at this more closely than just yes thats it. Research is done. Doctor of Philosophy and you are supporting guys who using "tricks" to theories?

[joygarner]

Well said! BRAVO!

I'm not a PHD, but I have a 187 IQ and it's telling me that this NWO, unelected few elite bankers running the world with their "global LIFE emissions" tax is NOT going to clean up the planet. CARBON is not "bad" nor is it affecting global temps. We are ALL carbon-based life forms.

Big energy is now FIRMLY behind this tax, b/c they've been given endless FREE CARBON CREDITS, thereby shutting out ANY competition. This has nothing to do with saving the earth. It's about CONTROL.

[joygarner]

Actually, we're COOLING right now. Solar flares are so low now, that many scientists fear a coming ice-age.

ALL of the charts based upon C02 being causative factor are off by hundreds of years.

FACT:

AFTER temps go up, THEN Co2 goes up. Ice melts, more life, more C02.

You want to clean up the planet? C02 reduction is NOT the answer. Other emissions, OTHER toxins must be addressed. An unelected few elite bankers funding their NWO through a global "life emissions tax" is NOT the answer.

[megalithii]

Um, hate to say it, but the new numbers are showing the Earth IS cooling down, and has been for about 10 years now. The GW science is based on lies to get money for government sponsored studies. It's a self perpetuating cycle. Scientists lie to get government grants, and the government gives the money to perpetuate the hoax. GW is a sinking ship, and socialsists world wide are trying to get a binding, global encompassing, economic redistribution treaty signed before it sinks.

[kbi35]

Silly.. Don't let facts get in the way.. Global warming is very convenient. Green jobs. Electric cars no one wants or can afford.. More state & federal regulation. Higher taxes.. More government control.. Funny how the wording has changed to climate change, since the majority don't believe in GW..

[msqtube]

I seriously doubt that you have any degree.

If you did, how could you fall for this scam?

[AvEryBadApPLe]

the unicorn killer founded earth day. sick, but true. the planet is fine. the people need saving. if environmentalist really give a shit about saving the environment, why don't they ever demand the dismantling of h.a.r.p. facilities around the globe?

[Diostelibre]

Global warming is a liberal scam!

[nickburzo15]

@Diostelibre fuck u sucka dick u illiterate peice of shit u dont no anything

[nickburzo15]

@Diostelibre no.....

[lolcr3w]

@Diostelibre yes!!!

[TRUMPHENT]

Heh, Savage has never heard of Milutin Milankovitch. Didn't he get canned from his home radio station?

Savage also has no concept of geologic time scale. The rate at which GHGs are increasing is unprecedented in the geologic record.

[joygarner]

Another THREAT that is someone questions the NWO agenda they will lose their job?

That's rich. Like you could arrange it.

The TRUTH is out. "Hide the DECLINE" in global temps, direct from the IPCC.

And who's the UN's top Climate "adviser"??

The PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK. The unelected few elites who want to fund their NWO with a global life emissions tax on CARBON which has been PROVEN to have nothing to do with "climate change".

[yury2268]

savage gives me my daily dose of logic and reason.

[nickburzo15]

@yury2268 he gives u ur daily dose of stupidity u dum fuck just stfu and dont ever talk again unless directed by a smart person

[nickburzo15]

@yury2268 then im afriad to see wat sumthing 

[lolcr3w]

@yury2268