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  • Research is at hand -

    (~?~)

  • im a non believer i dont give a fuck about religion should be banned its a cult. so why are we forced to hold a bible fuck em i say just be a good person fuck god,bible,krishna the lot wheneer you get the chance burn a bible or to make you feel better

  • michaeljureidini:

    Oh my g-

    Oh my science, you are truly a waste of humanity. If anything, your kind should be put to sleep permanently.

  • Even though I agree that Michael's comment wasn't useful in any way saying people should die for their beliefs is silly and inappropriate.

  • As opposed to religious people constantly wanting to kill everyone who doesn't have the same opinion as them? Just open any history book and you will find many examples of mindless religious violence. Better yet, open that shitstain they call the "Bible".

    And I never said die, I said "Put to sleep", which doesn't necessarily mean to kill.

    Whatever, I will always hate religion for what it has done, and what it is doing to the world. That includes everyone who supports it.

  • That is a very good question, I'm from the states but I never been to court. Here there is such a large majority of Christians I don't think it ever crossed the minds of the people who present the oath. Now I feel so very uneducated to not know how that works in my own court system. (Go American education!)

  • There have been a few responses from the US about this, and lets face it if you have not had to go to court, why should you know!

  • In the United States we can affirm, and we can also perform the "Chicken Oath."

  • That is a great question, I don't know what they do in Canada, I will have to look it up. I never thought about it before this video.

  • I had to swear in when I did jury service. It was strange as everyone else was given the bible and swore in, a muslim guy was given the Qu'ran but when it came to me, it was shouted out by the Usher "JUROR WISHES TO AFFIRME". For some reason that was a big deal to them and had to be made aware.

  • A few states in the USA also require a Notary Public to be religious: atheists in those states are not allowed to be Notaries.

  • In the USA different states have different laws regarding giving testimony in court. In Texas one is REQUIRED to swear on a Bible, by law, before giving testimony in court: that law is usually not enforced. Most states allow affirmation.

    In Canada there is The Chicken Oath. I should make a video about that.

  • I have practiced law in Texas for years and no Texas law requires anything but an oath or affirmation. Some judges and bailiffs have Bibles handy, but it isn't required by law. The word "Bible" isn't even in the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure nor in the Texas Rules of Criminal Procedure.

  • Thank you for correcting me. I recall a court case where a potential witness tried to sue a Texas court because the court demanded he give an oath on a Bible and he refused.

  • I am not saying that couldn't happen, even today. It just wouldn't be because of a Texas law, it would most likely be a small town judge still practicing the old way. Judges have a lot of discretion to run their courtrooms. I have seen some bizarre things, especially from older, grumpier judges.

  • Once road workers were using a jackhammer out in the street were disturbing a trial. The old judge just wrote out an order requiring that they quit for the day and had the bailiff take it out and serve it on the road crew. Both lawyers were like, "your honor, I don't think you can do that." The judge said "I can do whatever the heck I want." They stopped the jackhammer.

  • The affirmation applies when you get divorced too. I handled my own divorce proceedings with no lawyer involved at all, and when I went to the court to swear an affidavit I was offered the Bible or the option to affirm, so I took the latter option.

  • In courts in the US, you can swear on the bible, but it's usually you swear to tell the truth, under penalty of perjury. So it's a law of the land kind of thing.

  • I'm not absolutely sure about court in the U.S., but when I was hired as an employee of the U.S. Federal Government almost 20 years ago, I made a non-religious affirmation that I would uphold the Constitution of the United States.

  • A few years ago, there was a story about a court in Wales which discovered that people had been swearing the oath while holding a dictionary. No-one had bothered to actually look inside the book. I thought that was hilarious. It's such a meaningless ritual.

  • I've served on three juries within the last 20 or so years. Today, they generally are asked to hold up their right hand, I suppose as a signal that an oath is being taken, and they are asked by the clerk, "Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you will give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." The "so help you God" part has been dropped, and nobody has to let the jury know whether it is an oath to God or an affirmation. No holy book is involved.

  • Whew! So glad to hear that. I'm scheduled for jury duty on 1/14/08.  I really didn't want to swear an oath on a Bible.

  • Bring alot of books. I got through 2 short ones on my first day alone.

  • Thanks! I didn't even think about that. Will be sure to do.

  • Frankly, I haven't the slightest clue what the rules are in Denmark. I'd imagine they'd be fairly secularised. After all, we're majority non-believers..... But I was a christian back during my (brief) law school days, so I never thought to ask.

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