I practice Ninjutsu. My teachers are former students of Stephen K. Hayes. Sometimes, we cover classes on Iaido and Kenjutsu. They truly are amazing arts.
Just to clarify and point out why this is MJER and not MSR (besides the obvious fact that Kataoka-sensei is the current global representative of MJER): the first two performed katas. For the 1st kata (MJER's "Mae"), right foot advances in furikaburi, and left knee follos during kirioroshi (MSR's "Shohattö" reverses this); also the o-chiburi in MJER brings the two foots together, in MSR there's a pause before this.
wow was he holding the katana or iaito wrong ? i know that the left hand should be at the bottom of the tsuka, and i see that his left and right hand are touched while makeing his technique.
@vmi02raven Indeed! The most speedy nötö (the returning-scabbard movement) in 1:40 is the nötö movement for all Okuden kata, such as that one (called "Shiho Giri"). Notice that every other nötö are performed slowly and controlled - that's because the kata are from the Shoden and Chuden waza (sets).
Thats Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu. Look at the Chiburi in Mae. Doing Chiburi and closing feets in the same moment... Jikiden! That for the video... very fine.
Do you have a bit more information and/or videos from this event?
And, if you know is this Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu or Muso Shinden Ryu? This being an old video and the schools being very similar it's hard to tell, but i'd guess the latter, due to the shorter katana being used.
@shinken12 I'm afraid not. First kata (which, incidentally, it's called 'Shohattö' in Shinden Ryu, opposed to 'Mae' in Jikiden Eiishin Ryu) it's performed bringing the left knee forward during furikaburi, and then advancing with the right foot during kirioroshi. You can see clearly that Kataoka-sensei performs Mae, not Shohattö, sincee he steps forward with the right foot during furikaburi, and then advances the left knee in kirioroshi.
@shinken12 A detail: the "left hip being pulled back during nukitsuke" is actually a movement in BOTH MSR and MJER, and it's called "saya biki". You can't reference saya biki as one Iaido school's "trademark", since even the ancient Tenshin Shoden Katori Shintö Ryu uses it. And finally, remember that Kataoka-sensei is the current head of Musö Jikiden-Eiishin Ryu, so watching him doing Musö Shinden Ryu is next to watch Steve Jobs creating a Windows Mobile-powered iPad...
@shinken12 Jikiden, my friend. The "hip being pulled back" (a motion called "sayabiki") is common in both MJER and MSR. In Mae (which is named "Shohatto" in Shinden) the iaidoka advances with the right leg in furikaburi, then drags the left one (and the body) in kirioroshi. You can see that "MJER trademark" movement in the video. Shinden does the opposite (pulls left knee forward in furikaburi, right leg advances in kirioroshi). And finally Kataoka sensei is the current head of MJER, not MSR
@rockinLive that is jikiden ryu, shinden ryu does not use tatte noto, it also uses a different chiburi, the droped knee on the kiritsuke of the second kata (in musoshinden we call it inyoushintai kaiwaza) is jikiden all over
nobody practices iaido anymore, haidong gumdo is where its at
japantruthify001 1 month ago
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friedasian 1 month ago
I practice Ninjutsu with the To-Shin Do League, and we sometimes cover Kenjutsu and Iaido. They truly are incredinle arts.
JdawgWithNinjutsu 4 months ago
I practice Ninjutsu. My teachers are former students of Stephen K. Hayes. Sometimes, we cover classes on Iaido and Kenjutsu. They truly are amazing arts.
JdawgWithNinjutsu 4 months ago
Just to clarify and point out why this is MJER and not MSR (besides the obvious fact that Kataoka-sensei is the current global representative of MJER): the first two performed katas. For the 1st kata (MJER's "Mae"), right foot advances in furikaburi, and left knee follos during kirioroshi (MSR's "Shohattö" reverses this); also the o-chiburi in MJER brings the two foots together, in MSR there's a pause before this.
staalwart 8 months ago
A swift and composed presentation very good.!
spylockout 8 months ago
from the sound of the swing I can tell that I were hit. Im probably gonna be split in two
GUNDAM00745 9 months ago
From New York Kendo Club!
renbukancho 9 months ago
wow was he holding the katana or iaito wrong ? i know that the left hand should be at the bottom of the tsuka, and i see that his left and right hand are touched while makeing his technique.
GokiGandalf 10 months ago
his sword sings. my shinai sings, my bokken sings but my katana never does. i clearly need practice.
to chagrin: it would be expected that a master would demonstrate with a shinto is it not?
tuseroni 10 months ago
If that's a live blade, then thats impressive, get the Noto even slightly wrong and you go straight through your Saya and hand.
I've put my Iaito straight through my Gi doing the same technique (at1.34 in).
I see what you mean about his shoulders but it's still crisp techniques.
chagrin101 1 year ago
he looks too tense and look at his shoulders. He looks like he's cutting with his arms not his hara
GhillieGlenisla 1 year ago 2
HOLY....this is amazing, the speed and fluidity of which he returns his katana to the scabbard, especially at 1:40, is insane! THAT IS SKILL!
vmi02raven 1 year ago
@vmi02raven Indeed! The most speedy nötö (the returning-scabbard movement) in 1:40 is the nötö movement for all Okuden kata, such as that one (called "Shiho Giri"). Notice that every other nötö are performed slowly and controlled - that's because the kata are from the Shoden and Chuden waza (sets).
staalwart 8 months ago
Holy crap!!!! the speed and lack of hestiation in sheathing his katana, especially at 1:40, is insane! THAT IS SKILL!
vmi02raven 1 year ago
kool tats my sensei !!!!!!!!
tr1shul 1 year ago
Absolutely Beautiful...This deserves an Award. I kid you not.
THEUNSPOKEN100 1 year ago
Wow! Just wow. His Yamaoroshi was phenomenal. I loved the tsuki in shihogiri too!
kendoka0girl 1 year ago
omg it's my sensei!
ninjaboy552 1 year ago
Thats Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu. Look at the Chiburi in Mae. Doing Chiburi and closing feets in the same moment... Jikiden! That for the video... very fine.
tsuba1974 2 years ago 2
Do you have a bit more information and/or videos from this event?
And, if you know is this Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu or Muso Shinden Ryu? This being an old video and the schools being very similar it's hard to tell, but i'd guess the latter, due to the shorter katana being used.
rockinLive 2 years ago
@rockinLive
muso shinden ryu, you can tell from the left hip being pulled back during nukitsuke. particularly in the mae cuts of "mae" and "yaegaki"
shinken12 10 months ago
@shinken12 I'm afraid not. First kata (which, incidentally, it's called 'Shohattö' in Shinden Ryu, opposed to 'Mae' in Jikiden Eiishin Ryu) it's performed bringing the left knee forward during furikaburi, and then advancing with the right foot during kirioroshi. You can see clearly that Kataoka-sensei performs Mae, not Shohattö, sincee he steps forward with the right foot during furikaburi, and then advances the left knee in kirioroshi.
staalwart 8 months ago
@shinken12 A detail: the "left hip being pulled back during nukitsuke" is actually a movement in BOTH MSR and MJER, and it's called "saya biki". You can't reference saya biki as one Iaido school's "trademark", since even the ancient Tenshin Shoden Katori Shintö Ryu uses it. And finally, remember that Kataoka-sensei is the current head of Musö Jikiden-Eiishin Ryu, so watching him doing Musö Shinden Ryu is next to watch Steve Jobs creating a Windows Mobile-powered iPad...
staalwart 8 months ago
@shinken12 Jikiden, my friend. The "hip being pulled back" (a motion called "sayabiki") is common in both MJER and MSR. In Mae (which is named "Shohatto" in Shinden) the iaidoka advances with the right leg in furikaburi, then drags the left one (and the body) in kirioroshi. You can see that "MJER trademark" movement in the video. Shinden does the opposite (pulls left knee forward in furikaburi, right leg advances in kirioroshi). And finally Kataoka sensei is the current head of MJER, not MSR
staalwart 8 months ago
@shinken12 That and the fumikomi and the ryu specific kata ;-)
rfoxmich 7 months ago
@rockinLive that is jikiden ryu, shinden ryu does not use tatte noto, it also uses a different chiburi, the droped knee on the kiritsuke of the second kata (in musoshinden we call it inyoushintai kaiwaza) is jikiden all over
BUDAISEI88 9 months ago
@rockinLive It's Musö Jikiden-Eiishin Ryu, specifically from the Tosa region. Kataoka-sensei is the current representative of this school.
staalwart 8 months ago
wow i didnt even exist when this was recorded
ShaolinViolin 2 years ago
As always, I love the vids you share with us. Keep 'em coming.
MisterAaronSmith 2 years ago