...one should ask: how many journalists does china have in the u.s. and how many journalists does the u.s. have in china. also: how many hidden investigations are made by one and the other side. the u.s. puked on china for decades...and it thought we'd all accept that. now the u.s. must see how many european, asian, african and south american corporations rather work together with china than with the u.s. - since you could've been at least a little bit more moderate before.
...short: for the north koreans it will be easy to be happy if they just open up a little bit to the ideas of others. while the u.s. can only cry. like it does - that's why it never signed the kyoto protocol. and the picture it sells via to the media to the rest of the world? the more shiny it is - the more it is sure that it's pretty rotten behind it. even if you try to polish it by pointing at countries like north korea.
...another problem the u.s. has: in comparison to north korea for example it seems (only from the outside) the u.s. americans are spoiled. they misuse too much energy, have only rudimentary recycling, their entrepreneurs are negligible - and they have to import a lot of foreign scientists, researchers, developers... but: one must be desperate to go to the u.s. - and if one knows history (nikola tesla for example) one knows that if one would reach something like tesla did - he'd be deceived.
the u.s. has one problem: while areas like the one in the former usssr try to replace the bad parts of communism with the good parts of capitalism - the u.s. tries to keep the good parts of capitalism as well as the bad parts of capitalism. i live in germany - have been to the u.s. - have been in the eastern countries - and must say: the u.s. is getting some kind of old. it's not the "old" that germany keeps (bach, historic houses) - it's more like some kind of 80ies old.
Don't listen to this extasy fan ! Go and read the Quran there is not a single contextualised verse agains humanity then the fundamentals are Peace. I love occidentals, occidental culture and I'm a Muslim. Do you think Sam Harris kno QurAn better than me? LOOOL
I thought it relevant to post there the latest polls showing support for suicide bombing to put to rest the idea that most of the Muslim world is moderate.
google "Support for Suicide Bombing" Pew Global Research
Yes these results are disturbing and its worth noting that many of these countries are also worried about extremism. Lets not kid ourselves though about how far reaching this problem is. Even if only 5% of the Muslim world supported suicide bombing it would be 75 million people.
Talking about Islam is easy, any 'ole fool can do that. However, with Sam being Sam, he should be held to a higher standard, by proving that he is not a coward, an engaging in a live debate with a Muslim scholar.
You see, Sam, like most Atheist, puts forth his view of Islam, as truth, without ever actually engaging a Muslim. [To the Youtube audience] This is a character flaw.
Again, Sam, I challenge you to debate an Islamic Scholar, mone-e-mono, in a live debate! Will you do it?
He makes a very important point here. Can anyone remember hearing any moderate Muslims come out and speak out against the more extreme elements of Islam? Any at all? In the media or in person it doesn't matter. I cannot think of one instance of hearing a Muslim speak about some of the mad shit in the Koran. Whereas Christianity has been absolutely hammered for hundreds of years and criticised into submission.
@herringla it's also the fact is that islam is a relativily young religion , it started at about 700 AD so it's still very sure of itself. And is witholding science from it's adherence to keep them close to the faith . Its sad.
@dawtchins Islam in the oldest thing in existence. It is the the religion of Creation, the religion of the Angels, and the relgion of Adam (man). Islam is the nature in which Allah (God) creates. Even time and space came into existence at its behest, HE (Allah) only said to it 'Be" and it submitted.
@DerrenBrown100 It's a curious thing that the person I wrote to has not replied, but instead, I received a response from someone like you. Go firgure!!! Without getting to technical (in my explaination), 'Islam' means 'everything is at peace through submission to God's will.' [That's what the word means.] The Quran further tells us that the Universe was created in submission to the will of Allah. All the Prophets of Allah submitted themselves to him, thus they were all Muslims.
Therefore, it matter not about the 'word' (Islam or muslim), when it was coined, but it's about the meaning of these words and the practical application of them.
Now, I hope we can have an intelligent discussion about this from this point forward, but it not.... "To you be your way and to me will be mind" -- Sura 109:6
Therefore, it matter not about the 'word' (Islam or muslim), when it was coined, but it's about the meaning of these words and the practical application of them.
Now, I hope we can have an intelligent discussion about this from this point forward, but it not.... "To you be your way and to me will be mind" -- Sura 109:6
@Legend1One Islam is a plagiarism of the bible and the torah . and started around 700 AD. In the most illiterate and supserstitious part of the middle-east. Notice how it still is .
@dawtchins Okay, in order for your logic and line of reasoning to hold true, with any crediblity, you must also hold the belief that the New Testament is plagiarized from the Old Testament. Agreed? And the the Old Testament is plagiarized from the Egyptian Mysteries. Agreed? And that the Egyptian Mysteries are plagiarized from the Ethiopean traditions. Agreed? I look forward to your sincere reply, not the type of rubbish that you just wrote. Salam (Peace).
@Legend1One Yeah I agree with this. Im an deist, All the three monotheisms are a load of rubbish. All borrowing from each other and hammered randomly into inconsistant, incoherent and disceptively misleading literature.
@herringla Now, you know, moderate Muslims (who are 95% of the Islamic world) do not have a voice in the media. Stop listening to Sam and learn something of truth. As far at the media is concerned, the moderate Islamic view is not sexy to them, there in the business of 'selling' the news, and because of human frailties and short-coming reason and logic doesn't move the number, but fear mongering, hatred, and idiocracy does.
By the way, I'm a Muslim, to what 'mad shit' in the 'Q' r y refering 2?
@Legend1One I have to take issue with your claim that 95% of the Muslim world is moderate. In Egypt in 2011 28% of Muslims say that suicide bombing is justified. Lebanon 35%. Palestinian Territories 68%. Even if it was only 5% as you claim that would still be 75 million people that support violent Jiihad and the fact that you're asking me about the crazy parts of the Koran kind of makes my point. Lets just start with all the calls to kill the infidel (that's me) shall we?
@herringla Look, my friend, statistics lie. For example 40% of Americans think the way to solve the Arab/Islamic problem is to nuke them. Basically, I'm asking you to use your faculties of reasoning and common sense. Don't believe the lie.
Now, the Middle East is at war, people are desperate, but in truth, it's a political issue, not a religious. I hope thie answers your concern in this.
@herringla I just read your 'the Koran kind of makes my point' comment. "Kill the infidel?" Chapter and verse please, and, if you know (and you don't) in what context is it?
@herringla I have read both the Bible and Quran, and other books. So, I'm not sure what I should stop 'lyning' about (I'm sure you meant lieing), nor am I sure what I should 'Choose.' Can you clarify your point for me/us? Thank you.
@Legend1One If you're unaware of the sheer volume of passages in the Koran that call for the killing and subjugation or taxing of infidels then that's just very strange to me. In no way am I saying that all Muslims are Terrorists or should be approached in that way. In fact one of the interesting things that shows up in those polls I cited was that many people in Islamic countries are worried about extremism within. My point is we should speak honestly about the contents of the book.
@Oozy9Millimeetah Of course the first strike is necessary before they strike us. Iran's Ahmadinejad has openly declared that he will wipe Israel off the middle east. So what's wrong with it if the west strike first?????
@TheJo4an Agree. That is the issue that Islamic countries will abuse. Think of 9/11. Did they consider the number of innocent people that will get killed??? No, they have no heart no human rights, no women's rights, and no feelings for others.Look at the middle east today. If they can kill their own people in such a scale what they would do with us is obvious. Koran is the culprit.
the funny thing is i used to belive close to what you belive but nuclear attack is way too fucking nutty even for me. you should realise that you are victim of propaganda, i have been watching US & Israel warmonger against iran which has been the ultimate target for long time. im no fan of Ahmadinejad, but look up the real story what he said. nucking iran wont solve anything, when the problem is in the corrupt west US EU UK and basically United Nation.
@Oozy9Millimeetah If you think US, UK, UN and EU are corrupt, do I need to talk about the Islamic world???? We see it happening every single day in the middle east. Killing their own people is so easy, so do we need to talk about killing us????
i dont think that "west" is corrupt i know it, and dont try to force my thinking into one dimensional perspective just because i say the "west" is corrupt dosent mean that the islamic world isnt, i will never respect sharia law and i will never bowdown for Islam to be honest they can go fuck themselfs just like the globalist´s in the west who are raping our economics and our liberty.
@Oozy9Millimeetah So, it is alright for them to declare war against us? But when we declare war against them it is fundamentalism??? Where is justice????
and when did they declare war against "us", but ok lets say the did and lets say that we are in war against radical islam and the terrorists (which is a joke) then why does the western goverments take floods of muslims to our nations ever thought of that? if they are potential bombers and killers of non-islamic people why on earth would we take them here why, i wanna hear you before i give the answer.
The real problem is that the Quran does have peaceful messages alongside messages of violence. At face value they simply look contradictory and unintelligible. But when you actually look at the book in full the picture is clear, there is a message of peace, to other muslims. Mistrust non-believers, convert everyone by any means necessary, kill your enemies in the name of the faith. You need only have a glance at the middle-east to see how true this is. Look at the book, it couldnt be more clear.
The three terrorists Mr Harris presents as an exaple for muslims are totally (As proven) created , educated , and funded by The united states, I wonder if that makes them muslem models
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do
@XedMeh What is so important in worshiping??? I never worship any God and I am fine. I don't have any problems.All those who have religious problems are the ones who believe in an imaginary god.
I have yet to see a decent point made against this man. The seats are empty because it's only him on the stage. He is talking to the people in front of him (facepalm) quoting the words of a mediocre text doesn't mean much. Herd mentality is not necessarily right. And he convincingly shows that extremist mentality is not the issue. Photographic evidence suggests people are praying to a beard hair.
Fundamentalist are the only ones who have enough balls to actually follow their religion. Liberals, and non-literalists, pick and choose what doctrines they want,and in reality they have created a fortune cookie religion, to reveal that even they do not really believe their own religion, which they say they subscribe to,which reveals their hypocrisy.
Islam thrives because of ignorance, not in spite of it. Excluding Indonesia over 54% of all Muslims are illiterate. Over 67% of Muslim women cannot read. Less than 1% of all scientific papers come from Muslim countries. Harvard University provides more scientific discoveries yearly than all Muslim nations combined. Spain translates more books annually than all Muslim nations. Muslim countries have the worst records of equality, civil and human rights.
I'm sure there'd be a few 'christian fundamentalists' if your country was occupied and bombed for decades. You cunts really want a clash of civilisiations don't you?
Only 3 verses command humanity to love Allah and 2 verses are about how Allah loves a believer.
25 verses about how Allah does not love kafirs
This leaves 5 verses about love. Of these 5, 3 are about loving kin or a Muslim brother. One verse commands a Muslim to give for the love of Allah. This leaves only one quasi-universal verse about love: give what you love to charity and even this is contaminated by dualism since Muslim charity only goes to other Muslims.
Qur’aan, Surah 9 -At-Tauba (The Repentance) Verse 5
9:5 And so, when the sacred months are over [6] , slay those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God wherever you may come upon them, [7] and take them captive, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every conceivable place [8] !
@MountAnalogue The Quran is full of violence, instigating violence against non Muslims. Muslims must follow the Quran to the letter, and what happens then??? They become terrorists.
@emproro Every day 100 people convert to Islam?, NO the truth is hundred children are born to Muslim mothers every day and thousands of Muslims are leaving Islam. Finally Islam will disappear into thin air just like those religions of the past.That is the reality.
@indogitrust and also the numbers they claim cant be something to count on . As to leave the faith is death , so well never know how many people want to be muslim.
"Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them... There is, in fact, no talking to some people. If they cannot be captured, and they often cannot, otherwise tolerant people may be justified in killing them in self-defense" - Sam Harris
he said quran is only maintained in isolation and that's false. in the renaissance ages Muslims ruled the world and translated more books than any other cultures, and yet they were able to maintain the quran without the isolation.
religion is not like a sport. religion is belief, just like any other beliefs it plays a major role in governing behavior. sports rarely play any role in governing behavior.
first of all it's ridiculous to say they are worshiping the beard hair. Muslims only worship Allah and not a piece of hair. It's against Islamic principles to worship anything else beside Allah.
Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
Do not think you can stop Islam. It is invading the world, no matter if we were poore, uneducated, etc. We don't care about how we are living. What we care about is that the entire world should recognize God The one and only, and the call of preyer to be heared all around the world.
@Urarto because thats the truth,and i dont want to follow your way of life.really really have a think now,is it all worth it.do you really think your going to some garden in the sky with 72 virgins?if so, i will ask this.do you have sex with them in a bed or on allahs hand,if so where did you get the bed from?can you get wifi up there?what if you get bored of the virgins can i go out and get diffrent ones?can yu get xbox live?can i ride my motorbike up there?
Well, apart from the Qu'ran what evidence do you have of your god?
And BTW, irreligion is the fastest growing category in religion,atleast in the developed countries. And in the poor countries, people are just uneducated,so they don't know shit about religion
If it is trouth you are after, my advise is go and read tha Quran. If you are too proud to know God and submit to him, thatsyour problem. I have shown you the wayto knowing the trouth. Its your choice from now on.
@Urarto People made the same mistake you made thousands of years ago. Humans sacrificed living people to ensure The Sun would rise. The mistake wasn't lack of education as it may appear... It's the idiotic assumption that if we don't understand something yet, we can make up whatever we like and preach it to be true. It also so happens that morons like you parade the lack of knowledge as confirmation of your own idiocy. The truth comes in time, and we discard the ideas, but idiots breed.
Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are al-Mushrikun (those who ascribe partners unto Allah, polytheists, idolaters, pagans etc)...
On the authority of 'Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) (رضى الله عنه) that the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said, "He who as in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride shall not enter Jannah (Paradise)." [Muslim]
...though its smell is perceived from a distance of forty years." [Bukhari]
Only Islam poses as the greatest threat to civilized global society. Whatever nation that Muslims flood into,--- death, destruction, mayhem , and horror follows. Muslims do not go into another nation with the intent of trying to assimilate into the already established culture and national state, but rather they go into the various nations with the intent to change the society to Islamic culture and Sharia law. Muslims are the only group of people who cannot get along with their neighbors.
@indogitrust I'm an atheist, ardent sam harris fan, but also from a muslim family. My family gets along fine with their neighbours. As much as we would love to distill the issue down to Islam = terrorism, that's simply not the case. Islam is a major factor, but not the sole factor, in Islamic terrorism.
I'm confused about a person like Sam Harris,.... he is an Atheist, yet spends his life denigrating all religion (as well as Islam) at every opportunity. Isn't that kind of like asking your Chevy car dealer how good Toyota trucks are?
@hamzah938 You are not only confused about Sam Harris, you seem to be confused about everytthing. I myself is an atheist and I condemn religions based on a creator god such as Islam, Such religions is the basic problem of today's civilized society.
Islam is a problem that has / will negatively effect not only Christians, BUT ALL non-Muslims. It of course even negatively impacts many of its own followers:
watch?v=na4qMwC1SnI
watch?v=K4_qn6KFp40
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Two solutions to Islamism:
1) Peaceful method - Convince Muslims, Mohammed was lying, deluded, or a false prophet (e.g. getting revelations from fallen angels).
2) All non-Muslims globally, unite and defend / fight back, by any means necessary.
keep attacking islam, your never gona stop its rapid growth, you can attack the muslim lands, wage war, attack us through media, yet islam will carry on to be the fastest growing religion in the world, the most converted to religion in the world, islam will keep on growing becuase its the truth in the world, how sad how they mentioned osama bin laden in this video, pure shamefull
@MojowidanAK ok.. as arms against islam we will use education and the defense of human rights.. we will defend democracy and freedom of speech... and secularism is the fastest social tendency.. (not a religion).. islam is detrimental to civil rights, human rights and intellectual discourse.. mistrust of islam is warranted and needed.
@daNDayati it seems your view on islam is in shambles, but i dont care anymore, its getting tiring speaking with you people, good luck with your life and again refer to my first comment.
@MojowidanAK : Islam is a fast growing religion because Muslims generally breed like rabbits. There will be a time when people will realize that most religions are stupid and hopefully we will be a more peaceful society.
@MojowidanAK Do you realize how stupid you are? What does the fact that Islam is the fastest-growing religion prove exactly? That it's the word of God? Christianity was the fastest-growing religion at one point. Was Christianity the word of God then? No? That is SIMPLE LOGIC. I mean, how fucking obvious is that?
@MojowidanAK ram0000100 is right. The fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion doesn't make it true.
All you're doing is siding with the beliefs of those around you because it makes you feel secure and comfortable. Herd mentality. It's simple human psychology.
@pcgamer010 its also the most CONVERTED to religion in the world, even in America its the most converted to religion and most of them are women :) now what smartass?
Its growth just shows its cancerous quality. A religion that grows quickly doesn't make it more true or better than other religions/ideologies, it just means it's good at self-propagation.
I hope you sleep well at night knowing there are MURDERS happening EVERY single day in the name of your religion.
You're not worth arguing with anymore because your mind has been infected with Islam.
@pcgamer010 so if an idiotic man crashes his new BMW against a tree you will blame the car? "I hope you sleep well at night knowing there are MURDERS happening EVERY single day in the name of your religion." fk you sound so smart yet make such stupid fking comments (excuse me for cursing) murders and shit happen everyday in all sort of cases, your way of thinking is dull and narrow, your a fish on dry land mate. and PC gaming is shit, it has no games
@pcgamer010 let's generalize it a little bit more: every group that pretends to follow the same ideas (may it be a religious group, a corporation, government, whatever group that "runs under the same flag") will get more and more criminal - not only as the group grows - but the more time it has to repeat itself over and over - which then leads to its dissociation into various subgroups - especially when there are no outside groups that make one pretend to be one unity.
@pcgamer010 ...that's why the u.s. tries to find new enemies over and over again. after the usssr and other "unities" did split up (they evolved while the u.s. is just like it was before the fall of the iron curtain) the u.s. had to find another reason to not evolve any further. the u.s. is like a kid that tries to get what it wants by beginning to scream, to cry, to blame others (even if it has to use libel or if it produces fake-enemies (saddam hussein, ossama bin laden, etc).
@MojowidanAK Easy response. The price of converting FROM Islam, is DEATH. The equilibrium is clearly disproportionate among Muslims. If you have no way of emancipating yourself from a religion without fear of being harmed (look at the honor killings parents deal to children of all ages and in ALL countries), don't sit there debating numbers alone. I have very good friends who are devout Muslims and are great people. The truth, however, is they are great people, misled by lies.
@MojowidanAK Look up 'apostasy in Islam' in Google. Turn on the news and watch the penalty in action. Watch apologists defend the death penalty saying it would encourage apostasy. Finally, do some research before asking moronic questions.
I'm very sorry to see a leader of the church insulting other ways of believes in G-d, which are different from Christianity! I think it is one of the reasons why i'm not a christian anymore!!!
"Don't judge and you won't be judged" (c) The Bible, and somehow this guy is really not following this simple rule!
According to prominent Jewish rabbis in Israel and the U.S., Talmudic Orthodox Judaism condones blowing a elderly man out of a wheelchair with explosives launched from helicopter warship missiles (as in the case of Israel's assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin on 3-22-04).
In which forum shall we look to find you wringing your hands over this particularly repulsive spectacle of Jewish extremism, Sam??? Ye hypocrites!
Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
I am a pacifist, but can someone explain to me why navy seals aren't rapelling into madrassas and putting bullets in the eyes of extremist mullahs who are brainwashing kids and causing most of these problems?
We need to seriously educate these people...dragging them kicking and screaming if need be.
@ndrthrdr1 To say Islam isn’t the problem is disingenuous. Yes Christianity and Judaism have done some despicable things, but it has been a while since either of them have done so. In the contemporary world, Islam is the problem because it is uniquely ascendant. As violent and grotesque the Bible is, it has gone through a phase of reformation. That is something Muslims (moderate or extremist) are not considering to do, at least in the present time. Unless Islam is reformed, things won't change.
@ndrthrdr1 But Islam and organized religions not only teach that nonsense, they also stop people from being rational and reasonable. Not only that, but the punishment for apostates in Islamic countries is usually execution.
So the religions themselves are a huge part of the problem.
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
bin Laden is not the Rev Jim Jones of the Muslim world.. he's more like the Pat Robertson. Hated and shunned by most but accepted and praised by a disturbingly large minority.
Yeah i have to agree and disagree with Sam here, Islam is what people make of it. But I also have to say that some teachings in Islam are fucking inhuman and just playing Weak and Retarded
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
While I am not an atheist, and disagree with Harris on other issues, I find this video very agreeable. It is common in atheistic circles and in the halls of academe to claim that all religions are equal. But this is intellectually dishonest. Extreme Christian fundamentalists protest military funerals and are just written off as silly; Islamic fundamentalists blow up buildings. Both are absolutely mindless; but the two faiths are not comparable
@wbowersox87 and christianity spread by love!! your history books saying islam forced and what about christianity in philipines, lithaunia, germany and the massacre of pagan saxons and the very peaceful spread of christianity in africa?
@Khyrid I think who use them to do bad things are who sucks. you may be a fan of football team and kill people for it but that doesnt mean that football is bad cuz there is normal people wwatching.
@seedo201 Hmmm, a better example would be not all people who are apart of a cult sacrifice humans but being in a cult is generally bad. Well religion is just an overgrown cult and this few bad apples argument holds little weight with me. Religions generate enough problems be considered sucky by any reasonable standard. They oppose scientific progress, retard education, seek to make governments into theocracies and spread misinformation. They also give BS life advice and fuel bigotry.
@Khyrid I'm with you. but religion is always a tool to make people sympathize of someones greed. it's always obvious that other reasons make the fight. so if there is no religion. he will give it other reason as romans were just saying we fighting bec. they just are barbarians and we are better.
@seedo201 Yes it is possible to have a dangerous ideology without the belief in a magical god. But it almost always seems to be some form of absurd devotion to a godlike being that leads to atrocity, like with Stalin and other dictators. And that's what Christianity, Islam and other western religions are. Religion is like HIV, it doesn't always turn the subject into a full blown AIDs victim but it's still bad to have.
@Khyrid I believe that religions adjust morals and guided to be better and those bad people if they didnt use religion they will use something else and people will follow. you know why? cuz when you are suppressed or greedy you will find always excuse. as old civilizations did. they just do horrible things cuz they think they are better. they didnt give the cuase religious stamp in this times( well a little bit cuz you going to die) but modern armies do the same for democracy or any bullshit
@Khyrid I think goverments who use religion nulifies reason. they say it's always easier to rule ignorant than educated. it's more related to democracy than religion.
@seedo201 I don't know what democracy has to do with this. Religion = brainwashing bullshit, Democracy = everybody gets a fair say. There are such things as good ideologies, democracy is one.
@Khyrid exactly! a country was always religious but it only get fanatic when dectator crush the people and make them illitrate so it's easier to rule. it's not about religion but making people looking for something else to try to change but not upon their leader. by the way I find always atheists complaining from religions that is dominant so it's storng ideology and not to bother themselvs with weak religions and believes
@seedo201 What you described is religion acting as a primer. By spreading this belief system that is associated with a moral code it can be used to tell people what they ought to do. Unlike democracy, there are no 10 commandments of democracy, it's just a system with a purpose. Religion however tries to be the law of the land. That's why Atheist are concerned about it.
@cryfreeedom I don't want to speak to NWO. However, I can say that for over twenty years I have read and reflected on the Quran. How about you? I do not think it condones unethical behaviour. Do you?
Sam Harris is one of the biggest hypocrites around.
According to him, terrorism is bad (but if Zionist Jews do it it's OK).
I also wonder why he isn't talking about the extreme misogyny within Orthodox Judaism: veiled women who have to wear wigs, separated from men on public transport, absolutely no rights (ie: have to ask permission to get a divorce), even separate walkways for women.
Could this hypocrisy be explained by his Jewishness? OMG, NEVER!!
"Harris then gained some notoriety for defending Israeli government military actions in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict" - Wiki.
He is a vehement Zionist and has written in his essay (pretty shit essay for someone supposedly so educated): "Head-in-the-Sand Liberals" which attacks Liberals for not supporting Israel more.
So yea. But then again I somehow get the feeling that truth and reality might not be what you are looking for -- you want to ignore the "inconvenient facts".
@OrthodoxDarwinist LOL. I love how you leave out his critique of Judaism.
"The gravity of Jewish suffering over the ages, culminating in the Holocaust, makes it almost impossible to entertain any suggestion that Jews might have brought their troubles upon themselves. This is, however, in a rather narrow sense, the truth. [...] the ideology of Judaism remains a lightning rod for intolerance to this day. (cont)
@OrthodoxDarwinist (cont) Jews, insofar as they are religious, believe that they are bearers of a unique covenant with God. As a consequence, they have spent the last two thousand years collaborating with those who see them as different by seeing themselves as irretrievably so. Judaism is as intrinsically divisive, as ridiculous in its literalism, and as at odds with the civilizing insights of modernity as any other religion. (cont)
@OrthodoxDarwinist Jewish settlers, by exercising their "freedom of belief" on contested land, are now one of the principal obstacles to peace in the Middle East."
I'm not sure why you just changed the topic like that, but...
The Palestinian people are being *illegally* (get that word through your head) occupied and blockaded. It isn't "disputed territory" at all, the Occupied Territories are recognized as Palestinian by every single nation on the planet, including America, and Israel itself (when they signed the Oslo Accords), plus UN, etc.
It is pretty ludicrous to say that people who are being illegally occupied are in the wrong!
@OrthodoxDarwinist fuck the sand niggers. they deserve all the shit that Israel gives them. they're lucky the merciful and benevolant jews don't nuke their asses.
So you are going to blame a scientific model because some lunatics misinterpreted and used it to satiate their own racial biases (just like the racial biases you posses)?
What do you want the Darwinism Model to do, stop existing? Why don't you ask the theory of gravity to stop existing while you're at it? Or blame the theory of relativity for Hiroshima?
Then again, you seem to be stupid enough to actually do this....
...one should ask: how many journalists does china have in the u.s. and how many journalists does the u.s. have in china. also: how many hidden investigations are made by one and the other side. the u.s. puked on china for decades...and it thought we'd all accept that. now the u.s. must see how many european, asian, african and south american corporations rather work together with china than with the u.s. - since you could've been at least a little bit more moderate before.
partonace 5 days ago
...short: for the north koreans it will be easy to be happy if they just open up a little bit to the ideas of others. while the u.s. can only cry. like it does - that's why it never signed the kyoto protocol. and the picture it sells via to the media to the rest of the world? the more shiny it is - the more it is sure that it's pretty rotten behind it. even if you try to polish it by pointing at countries like north korea.
partonace 5 days ago
...another problem the u.s. has: in comparison to north korea for example it seems (only from the outside) the u.s. americans are spoiled. they misuse too much energy, have only rudimentary recycling, their entrepreneurs are negligible - and they have to import a lot of foreign scientists, researchers, developers... but: one must be desperate to go to the u.s. - and if one knows history (nikola tesla for example) one knows that if one would reach something like tesla did - he'd be deceived.
partonace 5 days ago
the u.s. has one problem: while areas like the one in the former usssr try to replace the bad parts of communism with the good parts of capitalism - the u.s. tries to keep the good parts of capitalism as well as the bad parts of capitalism. i live in germany - have been to the u.s. - have been in the eastern countries - and must say: the u.s. is getting some kind of old. it's not the "old" that germany keeps (bach, historic houses) - it's more like some kind of 80ies old.
partonace 5 days ago
Three Things About Islam:
watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w
UnitedKingdomify 1 week ago 6
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Don't listen to this extasy fan ! Go and read the Quran there is not a single contextualised verse agains humanity then the fundamentals are Peace. I love occidentals, occidental culture and I'm a Muslim. Do you think Sam Harris kno QurAn better than me? LOOOL
TheJackPicasso 1 week ago
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TheJackPicasso 1 week ago
I thought it relevant to post there the latest polls showing support for suicide bombing to put to rest the idea that most of the Muslim world is moderate.
google "Support for Suicide Bombing" Pew Global Research
Yes these results are disturbing and its worth noting that many of these countries are also worried about extremism. Lets not kid ourselves though about how far reaching this problem is. Even if only 5% of the Muslim world supported suicide bombing it would be 75 million people.
herringla 1 week ago
Talking about Islam is easy, any 'ole fool can do that. However, with Sam being Sam, he should be held to a higher standard, by proving that he is not a coward, an engaging in a live debate with a Muslim scholar.
You see, Sam, like most Atheist, puts forth his view of Islam, as truth, without ever actually engaging a Muslim. [To the Youtube audience] This is a character flaw.
Again, Sam, I challenge you to debate an Islamic Scholar, mone-e-mono, in a live debate! Will you do it?
Legend1One 1 week ago
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अहिंसा परमॊ धर्मः सर्वप्राणभृतां समृतः
तस्मात पराणभृतः सर्वान न हिंस्याथ बराह्मणः कव चित
ahimsā paramo dharmah sarvaprāmabhrth smrtah
tasmāt prānabhrtah sarvān na himsyād brāhmanah
kva cit
Means: Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma.
(Dharma means religious duty)
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Nokapp23 2 weeks ago
this guy is great!
reallymustiwtf 3 weeks ago
He makes a very important point here. Can anyone remember hearing any moderate Muslims come out and speak out against the more extreme elements of Islam? Any at all? In the media or in person it doesn't matter. I cannot think of one instance of hearing a Muslim speak about some of the mad shit in the Koran. Whereas Christianity has been absolutely hammered for hundreds of years and criticised into submission.
herringla 3 weeks ago
@herringla it's also the fact is that islam is a relativily young religion , it started at about 700 AD so it's still very sure of itself. And is witholding science from it's adherence to keep them close to the faith . Its sad.
dawtchins 2 weeks ago
@dawtchins Islam in the oldest thing in existence. It is the the religion of Creation, the religion of the Angels, and the relgion of Adam (man). Islam is the nature in which Allah (God) creates. Even time and space came into existence at its behest, HE (Allah) only said to it 'Be" and it submitted.
Legend1One 1 week ago
@Legend1One Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity. Idiot. btw The Quran is fucking retarded.
DerrenBrown100 1 week ago
@DerrenBrown100 It's a curious thing that the person I wrote to has not replied, but instead, I received a response from someone like you. Go firgure!!! Without getting to technical (in my explaination), 'Islam' means 'everything is at peace through submission to God's will.' [That's what the word means.] The Quran further tells us that the Universe was created in submission to the will of Allah. All the Prophets of Allah submitted themselves to him, thus they were all Muslims.
Legend1One 1 week ago
@DerrenBrown100 Continued....
Therefore, it matter not about the 'word' (Islam or muslim), when it was coined, but it's about the meaning of these words and the practical application of them.
Now, I hope we can have an intelligent discussion about this from this point forward, but it not.... "To you be your way and to me will be mind" -- Sura 109:6
Legend1One 1 week ago
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@DerrenBrown100 Continued....
Therefore, it matter not about the 'word' (Islam or muslim), when it was coined, but it's about the meaning of these words and the practical application of them.
Now, I hope we can have an intelligent discussion about this from this point forward, but it not.... "To you be your way and to me will be mind" -- Sura 109:6
Legend1One 1 week ago
@Legend1One Islam is a plagiarism of the bible and the torah . and started around 700 AD. In the most illiterate and supserstitious part of the middle-east. Notice how it still is .
dawtchins 3 days ago
@dawtchins Okay, in order for your logic and line of reasoning to hold true, with any crediblity, you must also hold the belief that the New Testament is plagiarized from the Old Testament. Agreed? And the the Old Testament is plagiarized from the Egyptian Mysteries. Agreed? And that the Egyptian Mysteries are plagiarized from the Ethiopean traditions. Agreed? I look forward to your sincere reply, not the type of rubbish that you just wrote. Salam (Peace).
Legend1One 3 days ago
@Legend1One Yeah I agree with this. Im an deist, All the three monotheisms are a load of rubbish. All borrowing from each other and hammered randomly into inconsistant, incoherent and disceptively misleading literature.
dawtchins 1 day ago
@herringla Now, you know, moderate Muslims (who are 95% of the Islamic world) do not have a voice in the media. Stop listening to Sam and learn something of truth. As far at the media is concerned, the moderate Islamic view is not sexy to them, there in the business of 'selling' the news, and because of human frailties and short-coming reason and logic doesn't move the number, but fear mongering, hatred, and idiocracy does.
By the way, I'm a Muslim, to what 'mad shit' in the 'Q' r y refering 2?
Legend1One 1 week ago
@Legend1One I have to take issue with your claim that 95% of the Muslim world is moderate. In Egypt in 2011 28% of Muslims say that suicide bombing is justified. Lebanon 35%. Palestinian Territories 68%. Even if it was only 5% as you claim that would still be 75 million people that support violent Jiihad and the fact that you're asking me about the crazy parts of the Koran kind of makes my point. Lets just start with all the calls to kill the infidel (that's me) shall we?
herringla 1 week ago
@herringla Look, my friend, statistics lie. For example 40% of Americans think the way to solve the Arab/Islamic problem is to nuke them. Basically, I'm asking you to use your faculties of reasoning and common sense. Don't believe the lie.
Now, the Middle East is at war, people are desperate, but in truth, it's a political issue, not a religious. I hope thie answers your concern in this.
Peace and Blessings.
Legend1One 1 week ago
@herringla I just read your 'the Koran kind of makes my point' comment. "Kill the infidel?" Chapter and verse please, and, if you know (and you don't) in what context is it?
Legend1One 1 week ago
@Legend1One Read your own book or stop lying. Choose.
herringla 6 days ago
@herringla I have read both the Bible and Quran, and other books. So, I'm not sure what I should stop 'lyning' about (I'm sure you meant lieing), nor am I sure what I should 'Choose.' Can you clarify your point for me/us? Thank you.
Legend1One 3 days ago
@Legend1One If you're unaware of the sheer volume of passages in the Koran that call for the killing and subjugation or taxing of infidels then that's just very strange to me. In no way am I saying that all Muslims are Terrorists or should be approached in that way. In fact one of the interesting things that shows up in those polls I cited was that many people in Islamic countries are worried about extremism within. My point is we should speak honestly about the contents of the book.
herringla 1 day ago
this guy wants nuclear first strike against the arab world, now there is Fundamentalism!!!
Oozy9Millimeetah 3 weeks ago
@Oozy9Millimeetah Of course the first strike is necessary before they strike us. Iran's Ahmadinejad has openly declared that he will wipe Israel off the middle east. So what's wrong with it if the west strike first?????
indogitrust 3 weeks ago
@indogitrust Uhm.. Because it might, just might, be wrong to bomb hundreds of thousands of innocent people? No matter what motives you have.
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@TheJo4an Agree. That is the issue that Islamic countries will abuse. Think of 9/11. Did they consider the number of innocent people that will get killed??? No, they have no heart no human rights, no women's rights, and no feelings for others.Look at the middle east today. If they can kill their own people in such a scale what they would do with us is obvious. Koran is the culprit.
indogitrust 3 weeks ago
@indogitrust
the funny thing is i used to belive close to what you belive but nuclear attack is way too fucking nutty even for me. you should realise that you are victim of propaganda, i have been watching US & Israel warmonger against iran which has been the ultimate target for long time. im no fan of Ahmadinejad, but look up the real story what he said. nucking iran wont solve anything, when the problem is in the corrupt west US EU UK and basically United Nation.
Oozy9Millimeetah 3 weeks ago
@Oozy9Millimeetah If you think US, UK, UN and EU are corrupt, do I need to talk about the Islamic world???? We see it happening every single day in the middle east. Killing their own people is so easy, so do we need to talk about killing us????
indogitrust 3 weeks ago
@indogitrust
i dont think that "west" is corrupt i know it, and dont try to force my thinking into one dimensional perspective just because i say the "west" is corrupt dosent mean that the islamic world isnt, i will never respect sharia law and i will never bowdown for Islam to be honest they can go fuck themselfs just like the globalist´s in the west who are raping our economics and our liberty.
Oozy9Millimeetah 2 weeks ago
@Oozy9Millimeetah So, it is alright for them to declare war against us? But when we declare war against them it is fundamentalism??? Where is justice????
indogitrust 3 weeks ago
@indogitrust
and when did they declare war against "us", but ok lets say the did and lets say that we are in war against radical islam and the terrorists (which is a joke) then why does the western goverments take floods of muslims to our nations ever thought of that? if they are potential bombers and killers of non-islamic people why on earth would we take them here why, i wanna hear you before i give the answer.
Oozy9Millimeetah 2 weeks ago
The real problem is that the Quran does have peaceful messages alongside messages of violence. At face value they simply look contradictory and unintelligible. But when you actually look at the book in full the picture is clear, there is a message of peace, to other muslims. Mistrust non-believers, convert everyone by any means necessary, kill your enemies in the name of the faith. You need only have a glance at the middle-east to see how true this is. Look at the book, it couldnt be more clear.
UnionGarside 1 month ago
The three terrorists Mr Harris presents as an exaple for muslims are totally (As proven) created , educated , and funded by The united states, I wonder if that makes them muslem models
Tanblondalex 1 month ago
@Tanblondalex If the United States could create, educate and fund Muslims to fit their agenda, you Muslims must be puppets.
indogitrust 1 month ago
Sura Al Kafirun (Chapt.109)
Say, "O disbelievers''
I do not worship what you worship.
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it. (8:61)
nugget9002 1 month ago
@nugget9002 there is no peace with islam
daNDayati 1 month ago
@nugget9002 Al-Anfal Verse 39 Page 181
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do
XedMeh 1 month ago
@XedMeh What is so important in worshiping??? I never worship any God and I am fine. I don't have any problems.All those who have religious problems are the ones who believe in an imaginary god.
indogitrust 1 month ago
you couldnt show me a refrence ha? i thought so.
MojowidanAK 1 month ago
I have yet to see a decent point made against this man. The seats are empty because it's only him on the stage. He is talking to the people in front of him (facepalm) quoting the words of a mediocre text doesn't mean much. Herd mentality is not necessarily right. And he convincingly shows that extremist mentality is not the issue. Photographic evidence suggests people are praying to a beard hair.
Sonneybouy 1 month ago
Fundamentalist are the only ones who have enough balls to actually follow their religion. Liberals, and non-literalists, pick and choose what doctrines they want,and in reality they have created a fortune cookie religion, to reveal that even they do not really believe their own religion, which they say they subscribe to,which reveals their hypocrisy.
KevZen2000 1 month ago
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Islam thrives because of ignorance, not in spite of it. Excluding Indonesia over 54% of all Muslims are illiterate. Over 67% of Muslim women cannot read. Less than 1% of all scientific papers come from Muslim countries. Harvard University provides more scientific discoveries yearly than all Muslim nations combined. Spain translates more books annually than all Muslim nations. Muslim countries have the worst records of equality, civil and human rights.
greenarcher180 1 month ago
I'm sure there'd be a few 'christian fundamentalists' if your country was occupied and bombed for decades. You cunts really want a clash of civilisiations don't you?
sh4p3shifter 1 month ago
@sh4p3shifter Clash of civilizations has been going on for thousands of years specially religious wars. What Sam Harris wants is to put an end to it.
indogitrust 1 month ago
Only 3 verses command humanity to love Allah and 2 verses are about how Allah loves a believer.
25 verses about how Allah does not love kafirs
This leaves 5 verses about love. Of these 5, 3 are about loving kin or a Muslim brother. One verse commands a Muslim to give for the love of Allah. This leaves only one quasi-universal verse about love: give what you love to charity and even this is contaminated by dualism since Muslim charity only goes to other Muslims.
miladmeah 1 month ago
Qur’aan, Surah 9 -At-Tauba (The Repentance) Verse 5
9:5 And so, when the sacred months are over [6] , slay those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God wherever you may come upon them, [7] and take them captive, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every conceivable place [8] !
MountAnalogue 1 month ago
@MountAnalogue The Quran is full of violence, instigating violence against non Muslims. Muslims must follow the Quran to the letter, and what happens then??? They become terrorists.
indogitrust 3 weeks ago
thats why everyday more than 100 people convert to islam !!!
emproro 1 month ago
@emproro Every day 100 people convert to Islam?, NO the truth is hundred children are born to Muslim mothers every day and thousands of Muslims are leaving Islam. Finally Islam will disappear into thin air just like those religions of the past.That is the reality.
indogitrust 3 weeks ago
@indogitrust and also the numbers they claim cant be something to count on . As to leave the faith is death , so well never know how many people want to be muslim.
dawtchins 2 weeks ago
I am concerned about secularism namely the religion of corporatism
humaner 1 month ago
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"Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them... There is, in fact, no talking to some people. If they cannot be captured, and they often cannot, otherwise tolerant people may be justified in killing them in self-defense" - Sam Harris
OrganicKing 1 month ago
he said quran is only maintained in isolation and that's false. in the renaissance ages Muslims ruled the world and translated more books than any other cultures, and yet they were able to maintain the quran without the isolation.
yahmana 1 month ago
religion is not like a sport. religion is belief, just like any other beliefs it plays a major role in governing behavior. sports rarely play any role in governing behavior.
yahmana 1 month ago
first of all it's ridiculous to say they are worshiping the beard hair. Muslims only worship Allah and not a piece of hair. It's against Islamic principles to worship anything else beside Allah.
yahmana 1 month ago
why are the seats empty, where are the audience?
yahmana 1 month ago
Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
Muslims! Watch:
"youtube.com/watch?v=GQ0vAIHO3gs"
IT IS ABOUT YOUR SALVATION!… REPENT!
Regards.
TrumpetCallofGodLT 1 month ago
Well Mr. gay Sam Harris. Go fuck yourself.
Do not think you can stop Islam. It is invading the world, no matter if we were poore, uneducated, etc. We don't care about how we are living. What we care about is that the entire world should recognize God The one and only, and the call of preyer to be heared all around the world.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto
your way of life is a life worth resisting
troy8451 2 months ago
@troy8451
burp! Sorry.
A life which creatures live to die with no purpos is what etheists are calling for.
Atheists should create something out of nothing before I will be ready to listen to what they clame.
Urarto 2 months ago
@Urarto because thats the truth,and i dont want to follow your way of life.really really have a think now,is it all worth it.do you really think your going to some garden in the sky with 72 virgins?if so, i will ask this.do you have sex with them in a bed or on allahs hand,if so where did you get the bed from?can you get wifi up there?what if you get bored of the virgins can i go out and get diffrent ones?can yu get xbox live?can i ride my motorbike up there?
troy8451 2 months ago
@Urarto
Well, apart from the Qu'ran what evidence do you have of your god?
And BTW, irreligion is the fastest growing category in religion,atleast in the developed countries. And in the poor countries, people are just uneducated,so they don't know shit about religion
siddharthjoshi91 1 month ago
@siddharthjoshi91
If it is trouth you are after, my advise is go and read tha Quran. If you are too proud to know God and submit to him, thatsyour problem. I have shown you the wayto knowing the trouth. Its your choice from now on.
Urarto 1 month ago
@Urarto You're a very good example of what's wrong with religion and Islam. Thanks for proving his point for him for him.
pcgamer010 1 month ago
@Urarto People made the same mistake you made thousands of years ago. Humans sacrificed living people to ensure The Sun would rise. The mistake wasn't lack of education as it may appear... It's the idiotic assumption that if we don't understand something yet, we can make up whatever we like and preach it to be true. It also so happens that morons like you parade the lack of knowledge as confirmation of your own idiocy. The truth comes in time, and we discard the ideas, but idiots breed.
captncomic 1 month ago
well he forgut his own religion (gayisim) it is also a relegion of peace, but it smells shit.
Urarto 2 months ago
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prepared for the believers, men and women
جَنَّـتٌ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا الاٌّنْهَـرُ خَـلِدِينَ فِيهَا
Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever,
for eternity
وَمَسَـكِنَ طَيِّبَةً
and beautiful mansions (dwellings, palaces)
and surely arrogance is the worst thing one can possess in the heart
if you only but knew
Asqalane1405 2 months ago
Islam would indeed lead you to Eeman and verily Eeman is Life, if you only but knew
it is a light bestowed by the Creator of the heavens and earth for those who believe and do good righteous deeds in the life of this world
you would enjoy both this life and the glad tidings of the best to come in the next
Asqalane1405 2 months ago
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Allah سبحانه و تعالى said,
وَقَالَ مُوسَىٰ إِنِّي عُذْتُ بِرَبِّي وَرَبِّكُم مِّن كُلِّ مُتَكَبِّرٍ لَّا يُؤْمِنُ بِيَوْمِ الْحِسَابِ
Musa (Moses) said: "Verily I seek refuge in my Lord and your Lord from every arrogant who believes not in the Day of Accountability!"
(Qur'an Surah Ghaafir Ayah 27)
Islam is the deen of all the Prophets and Messengers of God
Asqalane1405 2 months ago
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Allah سبحانه و تعالى says,
لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسِ عَدَاوَةً لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا
Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are al-Mushrikun (those who ascribe partners unto Allah, polytheists, idolaters, pagans etc)...
Asqalane1405 2 months ago
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On the authority of 'Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) (رضى الله عنه) that the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said, "He who as in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride shall not enter Jannah (Paradise)." [Muslim]
...though its smell is perceived from a distance of forty years." [Bukhari]
Asqalane1405 2 months ago
4:45 How did he get away with depicting a painting of Muhammad and not get killed? Didn't he receive death threats from the muslims?
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Only Islam poses as the greatest threat to civilized global society. Whatever nation that Muslims flood into,--- death, destruction, mayhem , and horror follows. Muslims do not go into another nation with the intent of trying to assimilate into the already established culture and national state, but rather they go into the various nations with the intent to change the society to Islamic culture and Sharia law. Muslims are the only group of people who cannot get along with their neighbors.
indogitrust 2 months ago 12
@indogitrust very well said, could have been my statement. Compliment and keep it up
horstnele 1 month ago
@horstnele Thank you!
indogitrust 1 month ago
@indogitrust False.. Atheists have the same problems with Christians..
outlaw87100 1 month ago
@indogitrust I'm an atheist, ardent sam harris fan, but also from a muslim family. My family gets along fine with their neighbours. As much as we would love to distill the issue down to Islam = terrorism, that's simply not the case. Islam is a major factor, but not the sole factor, in Islamic terrorism.
shasan 3 weeks ago
I'm confused about a person like Sam Harris,.... he is an Atheist, yet spends his life denigrating all religion (as well as Islam) at every opportunity. Isn't that kind of like asking your Chevy car dealer how good Toyota trucks are?
hamzah938 2 months ago
@hamzah938 You are not only confused about Sam Harris, you seem to be confused about everytthing. I myself is an atheist and I condemn religions based on a creator god such as Islam, Such religions is the basic problem of today's civilized society.
indogitrust 1 month ago
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Islam is a problem that has / will negatively effect not only Christians, BUT ALL non-Muslims. It of course even negatively impacts many of its own followers:
watch?v=na4qMwC1SnI
watch?v=K4_qn6KFp40
watch?v=QGmiicTqsdA
Two solutions to Islamism:
1) Peaceful method - Convince Muslims, Mohammed was lying, deluded, or a false prophet (e.g. getting revelations from fallen angels).
2) All non-Muslims globally, unite and defend / fight back, by any means necessary.
meszenger 3 months ago
keep attacking islam, your never gona stop its rapid growth, you can attack the muslim lands, wage war, attack us through media, yet islam will carry on to be the fastest growing religion in the world, the most converted to religion in the world, islam will keep on growing becuase its the truth in the world, how sad how they mentioned osama bin laden in this video, pure shamefull
MojowidanAK 3 months ago
@MojowidanAK ok.. as arms against islam we will use education and the defense of human rights.. we will defend democracy and freedom of speech... and secularism is the fastest social tendency.. (not a religion).. islam is detrimental to civil rights, human rights and intellectual discourse.. mistrust of islam is warranted and needed.
daNDayati 3 months ago
@daNDayati it seems your view on islam is in shambles, but i dont care anymore, its getting tiring speaking with you people, good luck with your life and again refer to my first comment.
MojowidanAK 3 months ago
@MojowidanAK you are probably correct.. the time for speaking is over...
daNDayati 3 months ago
@MojowidanAK : Islam is a fast growing religion because Muslims generally breed like rabbits. There will be a time when people will realize that most religions are stupid and hopefully we will be a more peaceful society.
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@sameer137 and why is it the most converted to religion in the world? what kind of crap are you gona make up for that one ha?
MojowidanAK 2 months ago
@MojowidanAK Do you realize how stupid you are? What does the fact that Islam is the fastest-growing religion prove exactly? That it's the word of God? Christianity was the fastest-growing religion at one point. Was Christianity the word of God then? No? That is SIMPLE LOGIC. I mean, how fucking obvious is that?
ram0000100 2 months ago
@ram0000100 uh duh! LOL when Jesus came with the gospel it WAS the truth back then, its in my Quran, dont try to be smart LOL!
MojowidanAK 2 months ago
@MojowidanAK what? what i meant is that it doesnt matter at all that islam is the fastest growing religion? doesnt make it true. doesnt mean shit
ram0000100 2 months ago
@ram0000100 its the most converted to religion also, even in aMERICA :D
MojowidanAK 2 months ago
@MojowidanAK so?
ram0000100 2 months ago
@MojowidanAK ram0000100 is right. The fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion doesn't make it true.
All you're doing is siding with the beliefs of those around you because it makes you feel secure and comfortable. Herd mentality. It's simple human psychology.
pcgamer010 1 month ago
@pcgamer010 its also the most CONVERTED to religion in the world, even in America its the most converted to religion and most of them are women :) now what smartass?
MojowidanAK 1 month ago
@MojowidanAK Nice argumentum ad populum.
Its growth just shows its cancerous quality. A religion that grows quickly doesn't make it more true or better than other religions/ideologies, it just means it's good at self-propagation.
I hope you sleep well at night knowing there are MURDERS happening EVERY single day in the name of your religion.
You're not worth arguing with anymore because your mind has been infected with Islam.
Bye.
pcgamer010 1 month ago 10
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@pcgamer010 so if an idiotic man crashes his new BMW against a tree you will blame the car? "I hope you sleep well at night knowing there are MURDERS happening EVERY single day in the name of your religion." fk you sound so smart yet make such stupid fking comments (excuse me for cursing) murders and shit happen everyday in all sort of cases, your way of thinking is dull and narrow, your a fish on dry land mate. and PC gaming is shit, it has no games
MojowidanAK 1 month ago
@pcgamer010 let's generalize it a little bit more: every group that pretends to follow the same ideas (may it be a religious group, a corporation, government, whatever group that "runs under the same flag") will get more and more criminal - not only as the group grows - but the more time it has to repeat itself over and over - which then leads to its dissociation into various subgroups - especially when there are no outside groups that make one pretend to be one unity.
partonace 5 days ago
@pcgamer010 ...that's why the u.s. tries to find new enemies over and over again. after the usssr and other "unities" did split up (they evolved while the u.s. is just like it was before the fall of the iron curtain) the u.s. had to find another reason to not evolve any further. the u.s. is like a kid that tries to get what it wants by beginning to scream, to cry, to blame others (even if it has to use libel or if it produces fake-enemies (saddam hussein, ossama bin laden, etc).
partonace 5 days ago
@MojowidanAK Easy response. The price of converting FROM Islam, is DEATH. The equilibrium is clearly disproportionate among Muslims. If you have no way of emancipating yourself from a religion without fear of being harmed (look at the honor killings parents deal to children of all ages and in ALL countries), don't sit there debating numbers alone. I have very good friends who are devout Muslims and are great people. The truth, however, is they are great people, misled by lies.
captncomic 1 month ago
@captncomic give refrence please, anyone can talk shit out their mouth in youtube, please show me a refrenece from Quran :)
MojowidanAK 1 month ago
@MojowidanAK Look up 'apostasy in Islam' in Google. Turn on the news and watch the penalty in action. Watch apologists defend the death penalty saying it would encourage apostasy. Finally, do some research before asking moronic questions.
captncomic 1 month ago
I'm very sorry to see a leader of the church insulting other ways of believes in G-d, which are different from Christianity! I think it is one of the reasons why i'm not a christian anymore!!!
"Don't judge and you won't be judged" (c) The Bible, and somehow this guy is really not following this simple rule!
DmitrijP24 3 months ago
@DmitrijP24 He aint a christian. He's an atheist.
asswaxer100 3 months ago
@DmitrijP24 Do some research and get your facts straight. Sam Harris is an atheist. He's not a leader of any church.
ExpensiveGun 2 months ago
Islam is fuking satanic religion which is made for stupid arabs
rzadan 3 months ago
I would like to see more Muslim responses to Sam Harris. Is any rebuttal viable?
SamonMarquis 4 months ago 8
@SamonMarquis They'd rather beat him up
ram0000100 2 months ago
@SamonMarquis
we don't give a shit for him ..
999saleh999 1 month ago
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According to prominent Jewish rabbis in Israel and the U.S., Talmudic Orthodox Judaism condones blowing a elderly man out of a wheelchair with explosives launched from helicopter warship missiles (as in the case of Israel's assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin on 3-22-04).
In which forum shall we look to find you wringing your hands over this particularly repulsive spectacle of Jewish extremism, Sam??? Ye hypocrites!
djs259 4 months ago
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Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
djs259 4 months ago
I am a pacifist, but can someone explain to me why navy seals aren't rapelling into madrassas and putting bullets in the eyes of extremist mullahs who are brainwashing kids and causing most of these problems?
We need to seriously educate these people...dragging them kicking and screaming if need be.
MrGunwitch 4 months ago
According to the bible, the first genocide was committed by god.
Islam isn't the problem.
Belief in magical religious nonsense is the problem.
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 To say Islam isn’t the problem is disingenuous. Yes Christianity and Judaism have done some despicable things, but it has been a while since either of them have done so. In the contemporary world, Islam is the problem because it is uniquely ascendant. As violent and grotesque the Bible is, it has gone through a phase of reformation. That is something Muslims (moderate or extremist) are not considering to do, at least in the present time. Unless Islam is reformed, things won't change.
iedhunter44 4 months ago 2
@iedhunter44 I think that faith itself is the enemy, but I agree that Islam in its current state is a rabid dog in need of a strong chain.
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 And Islam is belief in magical religious nonsense;)
anu123km 3 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 But Islam and organized religions not only teach that nonsense, they also stop people from being rational and reasonable. Not only that, but the punishment for apostates in Islamic countries is usually execution.
So the religions themselves are a huge part of the problem.
pcgamer010 1 month ago
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Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
IslamISsick1 5 months ago
bin Laden is not the Rev Jim Jones of the Muslim world.. he's more like the Pat Robertson. Hated and shunned by most but accepted and praised by a disturbingly large minority.
kalbahamut 6 months ago
Yeah i have to agree and disagree with Sam here, Islam is what people make of it. But I also have to say that some teachings in Islam are fucking inhuman and just playing Weak and Retarded
DSM190000 6 months ago
Yeah, go ahead and criticize everything...
CLBOO6 6 months ago
@CLBOO6
Um, yeah...
hcdfanatic83 6 months ago
@CLBOO6 lol u say that like its a bad thing.
Drgamedood 6 months ago
@Drgamedood Well, you are not wrong then.
CLBOO6 6 months ago
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
IslamISsick1 6 months ago
@IslamISsick1 you read a wrong book. and iradicate a religion? am I speaking to hitler? may be worth
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago in playlist HORROR OF ISLAM, LIES OF ISLAM
While I am not an atheist, and disagree with Harris on other issues, I find this video very agreeable. It is common in atheistic circles and in the halls of academe to claim that all religions are equal. But this is intellectually dishonest. Extreme Christian fundamentalists protest military funerals and are just written off as silly; Islamic fundamentalists blow up buildings. Both are absolutely mindless; but the two faiths are not comparable
wbowersox87 7 months ago 2
The Problem with Islamic Fundamentalism are the Fundamentals of Islam? ok
PflugbeilD2 7 months ago
@PflugbeilD2 i.e. Islam is inherently violent. It has spread through force since its inception
wbowersox87 7 months ago
@wbowersox87 and christianity spread by love!! your history books saying islam forced and what about christianity in philipines, lithaunia, germany and the massacre of pagan saxons and the very peaceful spread of christianity in africa?
seedo201 6 months ago
@seedo201 Christianity and Islam both suck but Islam is much worse right now.
Khyrid 6 months ago
@Khyrid I think who use them to do bad things are who sucks. you may be a fan of football team and kill people for it but that doesnt mean that football is bad cuz there is normal people wwatching.
seedo201 6 months ago
@seedo201 Hmmm, a better example would be not all people who are apart of a cult sacrifice humans but being in a cult is generally bad. Well religion is just an overgrown cult and this few bad apples argument holds little weight with me. Religions generate enough problems be considered sucky by any reasonable standard. They oppose scientific progress, retard education, seek to make governments into theocracies and spread misinformation. They also give BS life advice and fuel bigotry.
Khyrid 6 months ago
@Khyrid I'm with you. but religion is always a tool to make people sympathize of someones greed. it's always obvious that other reasons make the fight. so if there is no religion. he will give it other reason as romans were just saying we fighting bec. they just are barbarians and we are better.
seedo201 6 months ago
@seedo201 Yes it is possible to have a dangerous ideology without the belief in a magical god. But it almost always seems to be some form of absurd devotion to a godlike being that leads to atrocity, like with Stalin and other dictators. And that's what Christianity, Islam and other western religions are. Religion is like HIV, it doesn't always turn the subject into a full blown AIDs victim but it's still bad to have.
Khyrid 6 months ago
@Khyrid I believe that religions adjust morals and guided to be better and those bad people if they didnt use religion they will use something else and people will follow. you know why? cuz when you are suppressed or greedy you will find always excuse. as old civilizations did. they just do horrible things cuz they think they are better. they didnt give the cuase religious stamp in this times( well a little bit cuz you going to die) but modern armies do the same for democracy or any bullshit
seedo201 6 months ago
@seedo201 Religion is worse because it nullifies reason.
Khyrid 6 months ago
@Khyrid I think goverments who use religion nulifies reason. they say it's always easier to rule ignorant than educated. it's more related to democracy than religion.
seedo201 6 months ago
@seedo201 I don't know what democracy has to do with this. Religion = brainwashing bullshit, Democracy = everybody gets a fair say. There are such things as good ideologies, democracy is one.
Khyrid 6 months ago
@Khyrid exactly! a country was always religious but it only get fanatic when dectator crush the people and make them illitrate so it's easier to rule. it's not about religion but making people looking for something else to try to change but not upon their leader. by the way I find always atheists complaining from religions that is dominant so it's storng ideology and not to bother themselvs with weak religions and believes
seedo201 6 months ago
@seedo201 What you described is religion acting as a primer. By spreading this belief system that is associated with a moral code it can be used to tell people what they ought to do. Unlike democracy, there are no 10 commandments of democracy, it's just a system with a purpose. Religion however tries to be the law of the land. That's why Atheist are concerned about it.
Khyrid 6 months ago 19
@cryfreeedom I don't want to speak to NWO. However, I can say that for over twenty years I have read and reflected on the Quran. How about you? I do not think it condones unethical behaviour. Do you?
lajungesombre 7 months ago
He is an atheist and clearly states hes against all religions on other videos this just happens to be about Islam
jarkk01 7 months ago
@jarkk01 He is more hostile to Abrahamic traditions. He is quite fond of Eastern traditions, particulary Jainism.
Keysteeze 7 months ago
@Keysteeze He has been critical towards buddhism. Just look up his article "killing the buddha".
Drgamedood 7 months ago
Sam Harris is one of the biggest hypocrites around.
According to him, terrorism is bad (but if Zionist Jews do it it's OK).
I also wonder why he isn't talking about the extreme misogyny within Orthodox Judaism: veiled women who have to wear wigs, separated from men on public transport, absolutely no rights (ie: have to ask permission to get a divorce), even separate walkways for women.
Could this hypocrisy be explained by his Jewishness? OMG, NEVER!!
(lol)
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist He's not a zionist. You fail.
Drgamedood 7 months ago
@Drgamedood
"Harris then gained some notoriety for defending Israeli government military actions in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict" - Wiki.
He is a vehement Zionist and has written in his essay (pretty shit essay for someone supposedly so educated): "Head-in-the-Sand Liberals" which attacks Liberals for not supporting Israel more.
So yea. But then again I somehow get the feeling that truth and reality might not be what you are looking for -- you want to ignore the "inconvenient facts".
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist LOL. I love how you leave out his critique of Judaism.
"The gravity of Jewish suffering over the ages, culminating in the Holocaust, makes it almost impossible to entertain any suggestion that Jews might have brought their troubles upon themselves. This is, however, in a rather narrow sense, the truth. [...] the ideology of Judaism remains a lightning rod for intolerance to this day. (cont)
Drgamedood 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist (cont) Jews, insofar as they are religious, believe that they are bearers of a unique covenant with God. As a consequence, they have spent the last two thousand years collaborating with those who see them as different by seeing themselves as irretrievably so. Judaism is as intrinsically divisive, as ridiculous in its literalism, and as at odds with the civilizing insights of modernity as any other religion. (cont)
Drgamedood 7 months ago
@Drgamedood very well put.
UtopiaMinor666 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist Jewish settlers, by exercising their "freedom of belief" on contested land, are now one of the principal obstacles to peace in the Middle East."
Drgamedood 7 months ago
@Drgamedood
I'm not sure why you just changed the topic like that, but...
The Palestinian people are being *illegally* (get that word through your head) occupied and blockaded. It isn't "disputed territory" at all, the Occupied Territories are recognized as Palestinian by every single nation on the planet, including America, and Israel itself (when they signed the Oslo Accords), plus UN, etc.
It is pretty ludicrous to say that people who are being illegally occupied are in the wrong!
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist fuck the sand niggers. they deserve all the shit that Israel gives them. they're lucky the merciful and benevolant jews don't nuke their asses.
Drgamedood 7 months ago
@Drgamedood
Ah yes, a vehemently racist, uneducated Zionist-sympathizer. What a surprise. Fancy finding you on a Sam Harris video, lol.
OrthodoxDarwinist 7 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist you realize darwinism led to nazi atrocities, right? you proud of that? filthy darwinist.
Drgamedood 7 months ago
@Drgamedood
So you are going to blame a scientific model because some lunatics misinterpreted and used it to satiate their own racial biases (just like the racial biases you posses)?
What do you want the Darwinism Model to do, stop existing? Why don't you ask the theory of gravity to stop existing while you're at it? Or blame the theory of relativity for Hiroshima?
Then again, you seem to be stupid enough to actually do this....
OrthodoxDarwinist