Bill O'Reilly Interviews Liberal Radio Host About Sarah Palin Interview

[DDTphoenix]

some people actually like palin

[jambykool]

O'reilly is obviously delusional when he defends Palin on her history as a quitter. The man just cannot admit when he backs a loser like Palin.

[HowardSternn]

Palin can't even be Prez in her dreams

[schlummieleinchen]

SOCIALISM: You earn 100 times minimum. State takes half in taxes and regularly raises minimum.

COMMUNISM: You earn minimum like most others. State keeps profits and maintains minimum.

FASCISM: You earn according to degree of conformity to constant political climate change.

NAZISM: You are promised high wages but are eventually liquidated.

BUREAUCRACY: You earn 100 times minimum and get to funnel most of it off-shore.

CAPITALISM: You earnings depend on your greed and degree of corruption.

[bigticketub]

2:30 because I "handled" her...i handed her...Lol Freudian slip.

[JRSnodgrassOfficial]

I'd totally pork that chick he's interviewing

[n00g75]

Bill o spustle

[tinfoilrepair]

Cover 911 TRUTH Bitch

[luckyStrike89ru]

LOL, how the hell is Russia the problem??? Two idiots talking to each other, such dumb asses.

[optionsupdate]

Fox is a communist conspiracy,

[WiscoKiddProductions]

Yeah O'Reilly has the same answer for Amerika as Sarah Palin: make it a ZionNazi state under Israel. They, ZIONAZIS, are descendants of people who who made the Haavara agreement with Hitler and profited from the Holocaust. They already control Sarah Palin, Bill O'Reilly, our monetary system and our military industrial complex. They, Palin and O'Rielly never mention the good neighbor, treat others, the least shall be your master, or lover your enemies Christian standards, They r antiChrist

[dave19941000]

I've never heard of that Liberal girl.

[crazyhillbillies]

obviously bill o reilly got head from palin 

[HawkeyeTheGunslinger]

@crazyhillbillies or from his daughter

[jladd34]

2:08, it would have been nice to have realized that before yall voted for president

[glurp1er]

Cenk would have destroy O'Reilly on this case... Who's that woman, she isn't prepared ?

[Silvertaker]

@glurp1er please don't tell me you mean Cenk Uygur? That loudmouthed idiot does a disservice to all of us every time he opens his mouth :( Young Turks videos should be minus his commentary for greater effect. instead, he makes us all look like we may be tools as much as he is.

[glurp1er]

@Silvertaker

Cenk Uygur is a tool ? For Whom ?

He's a loudmouthed, but he's not bought by anyone and speaks the facts.

In opposition, O'Reilly always defends the case of the republican "white-rich-christian" party and ask softball questions to its representatives...

[Silvertaker]

@glurp1er I just think he is a mindless idealogue that does a disservice to all liberals every time he opens his mouth. He is rabid, and mostly ignorant of the subjects he expounds upon, it is guys like him or youtubes own "TheLiberalViewer" that people point to when pointing out how one-track-minded the left wing supposedly is. He should hold his beliefs, go to some protests, maybe sign petitions, but shut the fuck up. He convinces no one of anything with his loudmouth, clownish Turks antics

[crackmonkeys4hire]

@Silvertaker How is he a disservice to liberals? If you are talking about O'Reilly he doesn't claim to be a liberal. He's a commentator hence his job is to comment. You may not like his comments, views, or hair-style but who are you to tell anyone to STFU. If anything YOU are supporting the negative view of liberals as intolerant hypocrites thus providing a grand disservice.

[Silvertaker]

@crackmonkeys4hire He DOES a disservice to liberals by talking, constantly, loudly, about things he knows nothing about, in a smarmy, unwarrantedly self-important tone. Sure, he is often right, but I'd be amazed if he could explain WHY he is right . Not that I'd want to hear the explanation, if it was delivered in that "im so smart" tone of voice - from a guy who, as near as I can tell, is utterly average - or below average. Cenk - let smart people make the points.

[cocobear33]

mmmmm i would love to fuck this liberal bitch

[ChurchOfKali66619]

@cocobear33 Ditto!

[RCTPatriot75]

Funny how she accused Palin of dodging questions, when asked what questions did Palin dodge this woman dodged that question. She said Iran then proceeded to say Palin was right about Russia being the problem.

[padude64]

The right wing radio talk show show hosts are similar to killer diseases. They spread hatred and divide people!

[padude64]

The right wing radio talk show show hosts are similar to killer diseases. They spread hatred and divide people!

[padude64]

Bill Orally needs to shut his one sided big mouth!

[1Vella]

Hate O'Reilly, but he 'won' here

[Thrashaero]

@1Vella

how? he seems very tame here.

[mjjf505]

I would hate to see this woman without 2 pounds of makeup.....gross!

[padude64]

@mjjf505 Id like to see you answer why you like Orally!

[Thrashaero]

@mjjf505

what's her makeup have to do with anything? she looks great. anyways, it has nothing to do with what she is saying.

[saidox]

Conservatives belong in the 1600's, kick out conservatives, retards, uneducated people, and the old generation, and let people with reason and logic run the country.

[cortext36]

@saidox

well said

[Malbrojia]

@saidox Does that include the constitution and our bill of rights saidox? Does it come with an expiration date?

[saidox]

What an intelligent comeback. Well thousands of years ago we decided not to kill our brothers for a piece of meat, so does it mean that we should go back and behave like cave-men again?

[Malbrojia]

@saidoxThats not a "comeback" shithead, its a point blank QUESTION that you didnt answer. Do you think the constitution and the bill of rights are irrelevant and "1600's" as you say... lol more like late 1700s but whatever. Im just wondering if you actually believe what your statement seems to imply. Cont.

[Malbrojia]

@saidox Do you think individual inalienable rights (a deviation from the trajectory of an overwhelmingly oppressive history of mankind) are "old generation", outdated, irrelevant, illogical or unreasonable in this day and age. Or do you enjoy free speech, as an example, and therefore agree it should be preserved (put another way (CONSERVED).

[Malbrojia]

@saidox Too answer your question, yes. If not killing eachother for a piece of meat is Cave Man behavior we would be wise to act like cave men in that respect. The moral and social value is quite independent from the persons, time, or place the prescription/law originated.

[LightofJah81]

a fucking men.

[el100783]

Bill O'reilly is surprisingly civil in this interview. It's bad when he is the voice of reason on Faux News these days. Also... fightforyourrights9-1 coobert15-0

@coobert15: Read something and educate yourself. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[Superstud11]

You are really gone!! Beck and Limbaugh are show dogs thats it. Beck is a looser, Limbaugh is a hater. Obama isn't looking to make this country Socialist, you've been brainwashed by the Right. I"M REPUBLICAN TOO!!

[coobert15]

@Superstud11 well when you wanna socialize the entire healthcare system and bankrupt the private insurers. yes he is a socialist.

tax spend and redistribute the wealth.

yes that's socialist. so you not a republican or else ud know this shit by now.

[coobert15]

@Superstud11 i hate to say it but if you acturally listen to beck and libaugh and acturally fact check the stuff. most of it is acturally true. whatever you think whocares. it's true.

[finerbiner]

Beck and Limbaugh are police officers? have you ever bothered reading this document called the Constitution? It contains this mundane thing called the bill of rights., which allows all Americans to be Communists, Nazis, Christians or subscribe to any other antiquated belief system. It even allows the clearly uninformed(ears burning) to make statements as shallow minded as yours. Maybe you should move to a totalitarian society. That would seem to fit your belief system better.

[ear2educate]

"Bomb the Hell out of them or blockade them" what an evil low life this man is. Kill people because they are breaking the same NPT that no other friendly country bothers with. They have to follow the rules and international law but Israel and the US don't. Who made the USA God?

[fightforyourrights9]

Ohhhh, now I get it. Conservatives don't mind monetary elites, just intellectual ones. Sorry that we make you feel stupid... get over it.

[coobert15]

@fightforyourrights9 real conservatives are freedom loving for everyone. and you make us feel stupid. please. it depends on the person. and liberals arent even liberals. they arent liberating anyone from anything but wanting to conscript us to big government and let them be our deciders. well, the constitution does not allow that. we own the damn government so get that right too.

[fightforyourrights9]

@coobert15

What do you consider freedom to be? Freedom to do what? Freedom from what? Freedom is not a strictly defined concept. We have the freedom to speak, but not to murder. The government is supposed to create a balance between freedoms which are generally good for the society, and restrict things which are damaging to the society. Liberals are no different than conservatives in this regard. Each side just sees different things as good vs damaging. You say liberals want to...

[fightforyourrights9]

... conscript us to big government. Many liberals think conservatives want to conscript them to their value system. Many liberals are in favor of marijuana legalization but most conservatives oppose it. Making certain plants illegal could be construed as big government control. Why is this drug in plant form illegal while opiates in pill form can be obtained with a doctor's permission? Why not let doctor's decide if marijuana can help a patient? There are arguments on both sides that...

[fightforyourrights9]

...hold water. The purpose of our elected representatives is to figure out the balance between freedom and restriction that best fits the society and the facts of our reality. Different perspectives and interpretations of reality are the reason for disagreements between political viewpoints. However, there is massive propaganda from both sides to demonize or marginalize other points of view. It creates a poisonous political climate where reality takes a backseat. Undue influence from...

[fightforyourrights9]

... extremely powerful entities outside the government (like corporations, unions, etc) have corrupted our political system. The people do not own the government. There is no real freedom of political expression in this country. Two political parties which collude to drown out alternative viewpoints is not freedom. When those parties are backed by the richest and most powerful corporations in the world, how can there be serious discourse when the people's interests no longer matter?

[198eR]

yeah ban all intelectuals !? we had this logic in europe some time ago but we grew up.

[jhernandez135]

I am so tired of listening to religious idiots believing that our Founding Fathers were the best and perfect. If anything, college professors are among the most intelligent beings in the world and here you mock them. People should be ashamed of themselves for putting down education. Conservatism at its worst.

[rfgcc]

lol shut up you obviously have no idea what youre talking about... like every other liberal.....we are the most powerful and most free country in the world why? because of what our founding fathers created so just dont talk unless you know whats youre talking about

[198eR]

yeah ! no greed or coincidences involved, just moraly advanced , brave , good people

[fightforyourrights9]

Stop putting the founding fathers on a pedestal. They were intellectual elites who took enlightenment ideals and tried to make a nation around them. They were far from perfect, and to believe that our current power is because of their doing is ludicrous. Why are we the most powerful country in the world? War. War on Native Americans. War on Mexico. War on Spain. We bombed Europe to nothing and usurped power after WWII. Read some history books before you speak. Your ignorance shows.

[rfgcc]

your ignorance shows bc it seems to me you forgot why we bombed europe in WWII...why are you defending europe when 6million jews were murdered there? i really cant stand liberals and their green peace

[fightforyourrights9]

Ok, so apparently you have no idea what my post was conveying. Europe was bombed to rubble during WWII. There was a large power vacuum due to the shattered state of that continent. The US filled that void. It doesn't matter if we were fighting Nazis or Girl Scouts, the US still came out unscathed and the largest military power in the history of the world. What kind of freedom loving nation needs such a big military? Why are forcing our way of life on the rest of the world at gunpoint?

[fightforyourrights9]

Why has the US made war roughly every 10 years for the entirety of its existence? Go read some documents about our foreign policy before you pretend to know what it's about. Read documents coming out of the CFR if you want to educate yourself on our current global aims. US hegemony over the entire world is the ultimate goal. Opening markets for our corporations. Do you want US world domination? Do you want others to bow to US power? Why can't you stand peace? Are you a warmonger?

[coobert15]

@fightforyourrights9 war huh. well it's not the governmnts fault here. it's the federal reserves's fault. nothing is more profitable for them than war. they trump federal law in america and tell the government what to do and the gov was powerless to stop it. and we still cant get rid of this assholes

[fightforyourrights9]

@coobert15

You forget that the government is an abstract entity composed of individuals. It is only a collection of people to which everyone else subjugates themselves. When those individuals serve only themselves and their cronies, everyone else loses. They could easily stop wars and the Fed, but are so desperate to maintain power that they prostitute themselves to anyone who will provide them the means (money) to keep that power. Corporations, labor unions, and all manner of special...

[fightforyourrights9]

...interest groups have unprecedented power over those in government. The lust for money and power, encouraged by our hyper-capitalist attitudes, is the single most destructive force in the history of the human species. The most recent ruling by the SCOTUS allowing unlimited funding of campaigns by corporations, unions, and special interests only exacerbates the draw towards corruption. Get rid of power hungry politicians and you can solve many of our problems.

[slayyyyn]

mmm leslies kinda hottt

[pinhead418]

Leslie's hot milf!!

Palin dodged all the questions and I guess Bill was satisfied with all her answers, little wierd because Bill seems to be on it when it's a democrat or indepentant..

[phazon100]

What's wrong with common sense?

Typical Liberals these days.

[Boobalopbop]

Its a loaded phrase... What exactly does that mean? You can say common sense all day with saying nothing.

[IfhBiff]

Hahaha! The president of the United States don't have a policy on Iran or Afganistan and yet some retired governor is supposed to. LOL And this dumb radio ragdoll couldn't answer this either.

[sueNaustin]

I am a liberal and I have never heard of Leslie Marshall. Why does Fox News bring in people with no power behind them to supposedly represent true liberals?

[whistleo]

In terms of Iranian sanctions, Russia is NOT the problem. Russia has already said they are open to tougher sanctions. CHINA is the problem. On Obama's recent trip to China, President Hu intentionally made no mention of sanctions.

Also, if Palin cannot present a solution to Afghanistan, the "beef" (as O'reilly put it) is the fact that she labels the Obama administration's continued efforts to produce a viable strategy as "dithering".

[jimijackson]

its funny how fox have to frame the "enemy" for its viewers. "alert alert! this is a LIBERAL talk show host!!"

[Steadno]

palin is a sexy milf

[09Peaceprize]

Good job Liberal Radio Host!!

[ajmjw4]

I find it interesting that Palin has the the same affect upon liberals that Jesus had upon demons. hahahahah Drive Them Crazy Sarah!!!!

[jaroncreed]

Ok dude you believe in Jesus and you believe in demons, that certifies you as a fucking moron for that statement.

[ajmjw4]

One more frothing liberal. Obama believes in Jesus so I assume that is what you are calling him as well. LOL

[jaroncreed]

Literally? No he's not a dumb fuck like you and Palin. Palin also believes in praying for healthcare instead of healthcare reform as you do . Dumb fuck you fail

[ajmjw4]

Glad you think Obama is a moron. At least you are right on that one. :)

[jaroncreed]

yep thats not what i said but im glad a cuntservative has learned how to twist words. Keep following your Lord Glenn Beck, another failure by you.

[sueNaustin]

ajmjw4 - I suggest you look up the definition of a moron. President Obama is a lot of things: a moron is not one of them.

[ajmjw4]

sue..you need to work on reading comprehension. Jaron thinks Obama is a moron, not me.

[sueNaustin]

Oh I get it ... you are another whackadoo Glenn Becktoid.

[ajmjw4]

sue... you show your inability to string together cohesive thoughts. Somehow Jaron thoughts on Obama lead to some conclusion about me. This random thought is normally treated medically, but it is always required for one to be a true liberal. Glad you are!

[Gocavs1990]

Obama might believe in Jesus, although he might just say that so he can have a political career. It's sad but true but when you say you don't believe in Jesus you don't stand a chance in America. But even if he does believe in Jesus, he doesn't let that affect his decissions and everything. Palin is a fundamentalist christian, the dangerous type. The non critical non thinking believer. Oh I wish religion didn't exist anymore and we can all just act normal.

[dafish04]

You are comparing liberals to demons? Does your Jesus hate liberals?

[ajmjw4]

No, but liberals hate Jesus.

[kmardes]

considering that jesus('s supposed father - god) condones the death penalty for the stupidest 'offenses'.. like for non virgins, gays etc... then yeah, you can throw this independent in there for hating jesus too - you stupid redneck.

[ajmjw4]

kmardes..Oh really mister Bible scholar? Seldom have I seen someone so clearly demonstrate their ignorance in so few words. Congrats!

[kmardes]

umm, yeah, you don't have to be a fu$king brainiac to read basic english. stone to death non virgins on wedding nights, homos, blasphemers, and others.

talk about ignorance... someone lending total credibitiy to an iron age book written by peasants - DECADES after their SUPPOSED occurance - with ZERO proof for HUGE claims.

ouch.

superouch.

[Gocavs1990]

lol liberals don't hate Jesus you nitwit. I think all atheists are liberals, which is good. But not all liberals are atheists. Besides, atheists don't hate Jesus, they simply don't believe he's God.

[ajmjw4]

Gocavs..you're right, I said it wrong. Let me say that I don't know of a conservative that hates Jesus, and then let me say that I don't know of a person that hates Jesus who isn't also a liberal. So let me then state that in my experience in life, people that hate Jesus are liberals.

[Gocavs1990]

I don't think there really is anyone who HATES jesus. I don't know why one should hate him. First of all it's doubtful if he really existed and if he did exist then he probably would have been a fairly nice person. I think by hating Jesus you mean that people don't believe Jesus was god. I really have a hard time believing that anyone truly hates jesus except for some idiots. But it's not a problem anyway if somebody hates Jesus. Fundamentalists are a problem.

[ajmjw4]

Fundamentalists are the problem. Do you even know what a Fundamentalist is? Most of the founding fathers were fundamentalists and if you say they are the problem, then you have a problem with the constitution. People that hate the Bible hate Jesus for the Bible is His word. You can't hate His word without hating Him. But I do appreciate your intelligent response - and I mean that.

[Gocavs1990]

Religious fundamentalists, which the founding fathers were absolutely not, are a big problem. They indoctrinate their kids with nonsense, try to push their ancient beliefs into the educational system and some even go as far as killing doctors who perform abortus. They are more of a problem than somebody who "hates" jesus. Again, I don't think people hate jesus and they don't hate the bible either. Hate is a very strong emotion, if somebody disagrees with the bible doesn't mean he HATES it.

[ajmjw4]

You don't even know what it means to be a fundamentalist Christian. Look it up.

[Gocavs1990]

I do know what it means. And I have looked it up. Sarah Palin for example is a christian fundamentalist. You apparently think the bible is the word of God, you don't seem to realize the bible is written by mortal man and is full of incorrect information. You say that people who "hate" the bible "hate" jesus which is of course nonsense since jesus did not write the bible, mortal men did.

[ajmjw4]

You apparently think the Bible is the word of man, you don't seem to realize the Bible was written by God through mortal men and is full of absolute truths. I never met you. I only see your words. But your words, ARE you. Jesus did indeed write the Bible through the hands of men. And just about every founding father clearly believed the fundamental beliefs which Sarah Palin holds. Those fundamentals made our nation great. They are waining, as is our once great nation.

[Gocavs1990]

That is simply not true, a lot of founding fathers were even agnostic or very moderate believers. They were in no way believers like you or sarah palin. I'm not making this up, you need to check your facts. Above all and also the ones that indeed were believers were secularist. That means religion should have nothing to do with politics and education. If the bible was written by God through the hands of man, then god is not all knowing since it's full of errors and also full of cruelties.

[ajmjw4]

@Gocavs1990 a lot of the founding fathers were agnostic? - what percent would that be? Say 70-80% of them?

[Gocavs1990]

Hm, of the ones that were considered the more "prominent" founding fathers that would be a correct percent. A great part of the founding fathers were deists nonetheless, thus believing in some kind of spiritual thing. But hey, in those times almost nobody was an atheist. But a creatonist fundamentalist? A creatonist like sarah palin? They were certainly not a majority. The founding fathers never intended the US to be a christian nation.

[ajmjw4]

Creation fundamentalists? Kind of like those who signed the Declaration of Independence. Kind of like those who said "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights," Like Franklin who signed along with Jefferson, Penn and Hancock. In fact this document which founded America refers to the Creator as the one who gave us our rights. Sounds kind of like.... Sarah Palin.

[ajmjw4]

Gocavs...this is what it means to be owned.

[Gocavs1990]

The declaration of indepence does not mention a God. It mentions a creator, many founding fathers opposed to christian doctrines because they knew what it caused in Europe. It also says, very much not like Palin, that governments created by men derive their powers from the consent of the governed and not from any God. The founding fathers were secularists which Palin is not. Palin is the one of the dumbest women I've ever seen and she was about to become vice president...

[ajmjw4]

Gocav...lol.. son, you know so very little. Search on "Declaration of Independence Text" and you will find: "When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them," And you want to talk about how 'dumb' Palin is? You shouldn't have quit 3rd grade.

[Gocavs1990]

My point still stands, the founding fathers were secularists. This secularism is what grands the religious freedom of the people of america and also the right not to believe in anything. The founding fathers did not want politics to be fused with religion. And palin is dumb, I could send you a few links in which she does not at all know what she is talking about. She's a creationist, then you must be retarded. Also, I'm studying economics now so don't give me that 3rd grade bullshit.

[tsupfoo]

It's hard to even know where to start with you. You are so completely ignorant (or worse, purposefully self-deceived) abuut the Founders and their beliefs! It appears you got all your information from the editorial section of the NYT! Have you read their words? I doubt it. Have you entertained a serious historian who disagrees with you, like David Barton? Until you do that; until you give some meat to your arguments, like, say a quote from someone other that Paine, you have little to say.

[Gocavs1990]

There are many quotes that support my claims. But this discussion has gotten too far away from the point that's important. And that is: America was founded as a secularist country. That's what matters. America was never founded as a christian nation and yet people claim it was. If you want to believe in such a delusion then go right ahead, but keep it away from education and government. That's all I'm saying.

[tsupfoo]

Good. Give us a quote. I mean from a Founder, not some left wing college prof of the last 75 years. Give us a quote from before 1900 that establishes that the US was not estab lished as a Christian nation. As late as 1892 the Supreme Court commented in its decision (Holy Trinity Church vs.U.S. ) that the United States was a Christian Nation. This was universally acknowledged until about 1920 or so. That's when the "secularists" began to press their misinformation on Americans thru higher (?) ed.

[Gocavs1990]

take a look at the treaty of tripoli for example

[tsupfoo]

I think u don't understand what I mean by "America is a Christian nation." What do u think that means? It does not mean that the Constitution establishes a Christian theocracy, which treaty of Tripoli denies, rightly so. Adams also said: The general principles upon which [we] achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity I believed and now believe that those principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and the attributes of God.

[tsupfoo]

Then why was the first book paid for with public funds to be used in the education of children the Holy Bible? The Founders understood that the precepts of christianity were the foundation stones of American liberty. They knew that mankind cannot sustain liberty without self-government; and self government is not possible outside of [Christian] religion/morality. Adams: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people... and is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

[ajmjw4]

tsupfoo - The DoI states that our rights as individuals come from God the Creator. The signers of the Declaration express belief in God and Creation. Who wants a theocracy - not me. Jesus said to render unto Caesar the things that are Caisar's and unto God, the things that are God's. If you will keep that in mind things are very simple. Intelligence without morality is the greatest evil. Science is absent of morality - it takes no stance - Faith is needed to maintain the moral element.

[Gocavs1990]

Wrong again, faith is not needed to maintain the moral element. Do you claim all atheists are evil and have no morals? Greek philosophers debat on morals long before Jesus, it seems even Jesus had even very parallel ideas to some of them. Please consider this: the bible contains stories that are morally wrong in any way. Yet people believe in god and choose to ignore these stories and use different stories in the bible to base their life on. Then it's them who make the moral judgement. Not faith

[tsupfoo]

John Quincy Adams: "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity"

George Washington made clear his profession of faith in Christ as his personal savior, a belief in life after death and reward for the faithful and punishment for the wicked. His preference for words like "Sovereign" or "Providence" when referring to Jehovah God reflect a widespread cultural modesty, not Deism.

[Gocavs1990]

What is your point?

[tsupfoo]

My point is: most o the Founders would qualify in your book as right wing fundamentalist Christians today; a guy like you could hardly be found in America at that time. Many (if not most) Christians of today would appear like ignorant liberals to the Founders. The Founders were clear about establishing a limited government, based on Biblical principles, which, BTW, is the only basis for a limited government. Your statements about America being established as a secularist nation are misinformed.

[ajmjw4]

@Gocavs1990 So then morality is relative and I presume that to you truth is relative. Hopefully you understand that puts you in a hopeless position for you have no right to tell anyone that anything is immoral or wrong. They have their truth just as you have yours. Since there is no basis of what is wrong or right you must defend the holocaust. Assuming you haven't written that out of your history.

[Gocavs1990]

A marvelous piece of idiotic thinking. There is a basis of what's wrong or right, but you think about ethics and you speak about them with others. Somebody's mind who's not corrupted with disgusting hate against jews will feel repelled when he's confronted with the pictures of the holocaust. Things like this determine for you what's wrong or right. And of course do I have a right to tell anyone that something is immoral or wrong. 500 character are not enough to explain how idiotic ur comment is

[ajmjw4]

@Gocavs1990 Well the Nazis disagreed with you. They thought killing Jews was fun. So according to your way of thinking, morality is subjective. If no truth is absolute, then its up to the individual or the leadership to determine. Good thing a Christian nation turned out to be the Big Dog. Perfection doesn't exist on this earth, but whats so wrong with, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet..? Things were better when people practiced them.

[Gocavs1990]

Germany was just as christian as the US. Even Hitler was a christian. And of course morality is subjective but you get it naturally. Most people don't want to kill because they'd feel aweful if they did. Together with your surroundings you form morals and morals are taken up in the laws (for example you get locked up if you murder somebody). It makes no sense claiming these morals are christian since people agreed on these morals long before christianity.

[ajmjw4]

@Gocavs1990 Hitler was a Christian? Christian means 'Christ-follower'. Jesus said that we are his disciples if we do what he said. Please show me in the Bible where Jesus said to murder jews? Show me where Jesus said to destroy people. BTW, Mohammed did say to kill your enemies. A person isn't a farmer because they stand in a barn. A person isn't a Christian because they stand in a church. You are a Christian when you live the teachings of Christ, which Hitler obviously did not.

[tsupfoo]

Govavs, problem is u have absolutely no epistomology for morality at all. Why is something moral? Because u say so? Because the majority say so? That is the recipe for tyranny, which is where secularism always leads. But its all u got! The only other rational is that there is a God in heaven who created everything seen and unseen, including you. He has a will. he has told us what it is. Accord with His will constitutes morality. Without that, u have nothing but ur will. Sorry... doesn't work.

[Gocavs1990]

You keep believing that rubbish

[tsupfoo]

Thanks for admitting u have no argument. This is where u liberals always go... into dismissiveness as if ur great intelligence is some sort of self-evident thing. LOL. You have absolutely no basis for ethics. But you refuse to face the logical conclusion of your belief system. You duck out by waving your hand and calling the only system that actually explains morality, i.e. Christianity, "rubbish." Not because u understand it; but because u = afraid to look into it. U can do better than that.

[Gocavs1990]

I think I explained this to you earlier and I think only in America people wouldn't understand this. But if you take a look at your bible there's a lot of stories in there people nowadays would consider immoral. People judge these by today's standards, this means people don't really get their morals from the bible at all. As times change, morals change. In the beginning of the 20th century there was for example accepted racism which is nowadays unthinkable.

[tsupfoo]

U don't seem to follow ur logic to its conclusion. Do you realize what kind of monster you have just created with this thinking? It is EXACTLY what the Founders wanted to protect us against... the tyranny of the majority. morals change according to the majority, Huh? So, in modern Iraq, bombing innocents is OK. In modern [secular] china, slave labor and murdering Christians is OK. Oh... I get it... modern AMERICA, or modern GOCAVS is the arbiter of morality. That feels safe. Now I feel better.

[Gocavs1990]

You don't seem to understand, I'm getting kind of tired of this.

[tsupfoo]

Gocavs, I agree with u. There is a basis for right and wrong, i.e., the Will of Creator God, as revealed in His Word and Incarnated in His Son. Ur problem is that u recognize that morality is a reality, built into humans so to speak. But u can't explain it in a rational way. Every time u try u dig a hole deeper into political correctness and tyranny. The only rationale for ethics and morality is Christianity. It's simple, really. Come to Christ; receive His grace. All becomes clear.

[tsupfoo]

ajmjw4- I couldn't agree with you more. The Founders did not want a Theocracy; but that definitely does not mean they founded a secularist society. Those are not the only two options. The Founders established a Constitutional Republic founded upon Christian principles. John Adams said: Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." By moral and religious, he meant Christian.

[tsupfoo]

So you study economics. OK... that's your claim to... what? Being intelligent? Being serious? Fact is, if you actually study economics, and not leftist Marxist politics masquerading as economics, then you aren't really studying economics.

So be sure to read some Thomas Sowell, like his Basic Economics, or some other conservative economist, you are fooling yourself. Any you are just allowing yourself to be molded into another little left wing peon. My guess is you are too far gone already.

[Gocavs1990]

I was replying to ajmjw4 who claimed I quit at 3rd grade which I obviously didn't since I'm studying at the utrecht university now. As far as leftist marxist politics masquarading as economics: we do look at those when it comes to courses like multidisciplinary approach to economics. My guess is that you have a, which we call in the netherlands, tunnelvision in which you refuse to be open minded and you only approach things from the conservative view.

[ajmjw4]

George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton and all the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Creationists. Also Antony Flew, famous atheist recently announced that he had to abandon atheism because his 40 years of research point to intelligent design. He is considered brilliant. Are you? Don't believe me - do a google search. Oh and since you know so much, how did life start? (don't waste your time, you won't be able to explain - no 'scientist' can.

[Gocavs1990]

Oh come on, don't be so ridiculous. Those people may have believed that we were created in some way but they were certainly not all christians. But I know for certain jefferson isn't and also george washington was very critical of religion. Scientists do know how life started, you should read up on that some time. Where it comes from is something different, but does religion in any way tell us where we come from? No.

[tsupfoo]

Your point is absurd. First, secularism is a faith, just as Christianity is. it is a faith in man himself. The founders were clearly not secularists. You confuse their not wanting the church to run the state (a right principle) to mean that they did not want religion to have anything to do with government or public life. the big question in the colonies at the time was: are Americans in general moral enough to govern themselves? "Moral" meant self-governed under the principles of Christianity.

[tsupfoo]

Use of "Creator," "Divine Providence," to refer to the God of the Bible was common because the Founders, like nearly everyone else in America, were so completely imbued with Christianity. U impose ur 20th century mindset onto their world when it was totally foreign to them. For e.g, a judge dismissed a star witness who refused to take an oath on the bible. The judge commented that he had never met anyone, anywhere, who believed like this and the man's testimony was unreliable and inadmissible.

[dantheleo]

It is very interesting how distorted this liberals point of view always seems to be.  Two liberal websites I visited tonight, just to see what the haters think and they don't have the same views as she does. By the way, great channel name foxnewshatesliberals but doesn't everyone, HA!

[smashing86]

Bill O'reilly is so reasonable nowadays it's scary!

[FixedNewsChannel]

They brought in Beck specifically for that. He does the attention-whoring now.