One more thing: When they consult the patients and the women writes 'RUN' in teddy's notes she waits until she is alone with teddy!! Because the knows whats going on. She recognises Chuck!!
and you know why? remember at the very beginning teddy and chuck have to hand over there weapons. And now watch how unexperienced chuck is with his weapon! And he said he had 4 years experience. He lied! He acts from the very first minute. Teddy was never sick! Thats my ending :)
I just watched this movie yesterday and i thought it was the ending was amazing, and few really understand the concept they want to give you, he obiously is sane he just dont wanna live with the guilt of murdering his wife and not saving his children, which is as bad as playing crazy the rest of your life. Thats why he said "what would be worse to live as a monster or die as a good man"?
i dont understand the ending can nyone tell me was did he really killed his wife and was he really mad or not or they were playing wid him coz so that they dont find about shutter island what about th thing his friend said when his friend was in jail and all that
he was actually acting the fake identity so he would die as a good person, he knew he killed his wife but also knew he would have to live with it...its easy to know because of the quote he says, and how he willingly walks with the people
1) "Would it be better to live as a monster or to die a good man?"
This is a choice to accept his crimes and live with the guilt or to chose to pretend to be Teddie and commit a suicide through lobotomy 2)He doesn't respond to the name "teddie" meaning he knows his name is really Andrew
3)He is aware of the psychologists watching him because you can see he looks in the same direction as "Chuck" does at 0:25
He wasn't insane by the end, he just wanted to die as "Marshal" as a good man rather then to live on as a "Monster" - Andrew laedis, whom blames himself for his wife's killing of their child, and whom also kills his wife subsequently.
Ok My theory is he is actually Andrew who is a patient at the mental hospital, the doctors attempted the role play in order to make him see straight and it worked but Andrew decides he would would rather die as the good man (teddy, his invented persona) than have to live on as Andrew (who he really is) in the guilt of murdering his wife and not saving his kids. it's pretty obvious by the way he willingly walks away with the doctors as if he knows what there going to do to him but he wants it.
@Lobersteroil2 I disagree entirely. He can't both be sane and a good man (his reason for being taken to the Lighthouse). If he's sane, he knows he killed his wife - making him a monster. If he's insane, he thinks of himself as a good man, looking for his wife's murderer as a federal marshal. His reasoning shows flawed thinking patterns, which leads me to believe he's insane. It's a clever thing to say, but earlier in the film he's called a 'smart man'.
I got the same feeling in the end of this movie which i got in the end of watching "The Sixth Sense" movie. These are the movies which will be always remembered and those who really understood the ending are like "Oh wait, WTF"
@Persian8787 it's not the island he's escaping from, it's reality. he won't be able to accept the fact that he killed his wife because she murdered their children. so he chose to die a good man than to live a monster knowing he killed his wife.
@Persian8787 No... Just no.. You're clearly missing what he said "To live as a monster?; or to die as a good man?" SuperMrLahlou said it best.."He chose to be lobotomised at the end to escape his past and escape being a monster" That's why he died.
I had an aunt who was a paranoid schizophrenic and I saw that sometimes the truth comes through but in a distorted way. Though the end did leave some doubt.
He chose to be lobotomised at the end to escape his past and escape being a monster.
"which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man?"... to live as a monster; teddy blames himself for the insanity of his wife and therefore also the death of his children, but also "slaughtering" in the war. to die as a good man; he will no longer feel the guilt or trauma from his past.
@sickwickert he was sane, he just didnt want to live with what he had done so he acted insane (cause they said it was his last chance) so that he could get the lobotomi.
the fact that all he is told is from the doctors and such make it highly unlikely that it really ghappened. they were experimenting on that island, it was in fact an experiment unto itslef.
when Andrew said what he did at the end here, was to acknowledge that he had accepted what had happened, but he could not live with it. He had gone through so much including being in the 2nd world war. And that his wife was suicidal and mentally ill,he was also an alcoholic, he had killed his wife and his children were dead. All his family were gone. All in all a very powerful human story...
the reason Teddy was not accepting what happened to him, was because he was trying to protect himself from harm. He could not live with what happened to him and his family. By blaming Laeddis with the scar and inventing a conspiracy made it, so he did not have to face the facts of his existence.The psychaitrist forced him to look at his part in the tragedy, which when it came down to it, was too painful for Andrew,that's why Andrew made up all the bullsh5t in the first place. A defence mechanism
I think that he is sane now. But he doesnt see the point in living without his family so he acts Crazy to be killed or whatever it is they do to him so he doesnt have to have the pain anymore
UGH IM SO CONFUSED! I dont know what to belive.. some ppl says hes sane, other ppl says hes insane or a luatic. Whats the truth?? some ppl say you cant brainwash someone into beliving there insane but thats not true! I asked my mom whos btw a physicist about it and she said that if you give a person some kind of ppl and tells them stuff about there past thats not true you can make them insane!! She said that was some of the things they did in the 2d world war!!
UGH IM SO CONFUSED! I dont know what to belive.. some ppl says hes sane, other ppl says hes insane or a luatic. Whats the truth?? some ppl say you cant brainwash someone into beliving there insane but thats not true! I asked my mom whos btw a physicist about it and she said that if you give a person some kind of ppl and tells them stuff about there past thats not true you can make them insane!! She said that was some of the things they did in the 2d world war!!
The ending to this movie is so predictable, from the point the "insane woman" said jim (name of her husband) to teddy I knew. I was expecting a better twist at the ending.
After intense role-playing treatment, they finally got through to him that he has been a patient on Shutter Island for the past 2 years because he killed his wife for killing their 3 children. Throughout the movie he could not let his wife go, hence all the dream sequences. At the end, when they finally get through to him, he figures he would rather "die a good man" than "live as a monster;" meaning he would rather get a lobotomy to forget his past than live with knowing what he did.
some of you are reading to much into the ending. He was actually insane, I think that is clearly explained at the end, when HE remembers what really happened . Now whether he was "sane" or not in this last scene, I believe he was, but since he couldn't let his wife "go" (something he says 10 times in the movie) he decided to fake it, to get lobotomy.
I think it is an overrated movie that doesn't make much sense to be honest. Spin at the end is very cheaply done.
Dont you guys hear the partner say teddy his real name because teddy knows hes never getting off the island but he would rather forget about it and get sugery also when his partner keeps saying boss why would he do that?
wow I never caught this part of him saying that. holy crap, he's OK and he KNOWS what's up now, but pretended to be whacky again to sort of do himself in as it were. This whole time I thought he relapsed. I never caught that incredibly important line. Wow! That's sad dude! I hope the doctor intervened and explained it to the rest so the could give him a little more time, and not feel bad about wiping out his wife.
People seem to be forgetting that Teddy says "we gotta get off this rock". If you're confused by the way, they are both sane but the doctors believe they have convinced them both they are alternate person but they didn't, hence the "too smart" line. I think he didnt get lobotomised, for further reassurance, the lighthouse at the end, where there were no experiments if you remember correctly. Chuck would have also been alarmed. Something doesn't sit right with the acclaimed ending everyone is ad
what i dont understand that why chuck was shaking his head to doctor while talking to teddy ...wasnt he (leo) fully recovered from his paranoia or the ending was quite obvious and its just me ?
@muzicgalaxy chuck thought leonardo wasnt fully recovered, but leonardo is. however, he doesnt want to live life knowing hes a murderer so hes gna die.
@muzicgalaxy Teddy is his made up name, first of all. When he referred to the doctor as Chuck and started talking about getting off the rock, it was apparent to the doctor that he had reset again like he had so many times before. Only after the signal had been given by the Doc to the others that he hadn't been cured did Leo give any sign that he was faking his state of mind.
Shutter Island is real masterpiece - great acting, directing, producing, everything. Some moments were even scary. Leonardo DiCaprio is real master (Leo acts even better than Johnny Depp). Ben Kingsley and Mark Ruffalo were great as well but I don't understand why so many people found the ending unpredictable. I predicted the ending after first 20-30 minutes. This movie is masterpiece but not as unpredictable as The Others, The Game, Identity, Fight Club, Cube 2 or The Prestige
In my interpretation/opinion, the "die as a good man or live as a monster" quote at the end followed by DiCaprio proceeding to walk off with the "lobotomy team," if you will, following closely behind him, insinuates that he indeed faked the relapse and knowingly got a lobotomy in order to not have to live with the guilt of murdering his wife and not saving his children
so does this mean he DIDINT make up rahcael and she actually lived in that cave and they are makin experiments on inmartes in the light house??/ or are they acrtually trying to help andrew?? i know he played dumb at the end and acted like he was insane being the marshall but did he do that so they would go kill him?? or just reset him and do the "zombies' I dont get why they should the lighthouse at the end!! CAN COMEONE PLZ EXPLAIN WHY THEY SHOWED THE LIGHTHOUSE!?!? my brains hurts lamo
@playstationM they show the lighthouse in the end because this is the place, this is the theme for the movie. But actually, it is nothing but an old lighthouse. And yes, he is possibly being turned into a "ghost" in the very end, but it was not the point of this movie. This ending actually tells the fans that the shutter island is just a normal ordinary mental hospital and there is no evil ward or anything. No, no one lived in that cave, and no experiment had carried out there.
To those who don't understand what this last scene means:
Dicaprio tell Dr.Shin about stuff that when he is insane he would said, and Dr.Shin knoded to the guards and officials to carry on the exicution of Dicaprio, because the officials said if he continue to be one while insane, and the other while sane, he will get turn into one of the "ghost".
But Dicaprio is faking because he wanted to die, he just acted insane so he get to be executed from life.
It's quite obvious that they tried to make Teddy into believing he's insane (Andrew Laeddis) but in the end he knew what was going on in that Island and knew he had no way out. So he had 2 options: Live in the island as the monster they've created him to believe he is (Andrew Laeddis) or die as the hero he knows he is, a US Marshall. In the end you can see that they perform experiments on patients on the Island (like MK Ultra).
@Ahmariano He was already insane because of War but they used that to their advantage to create stories in his head and drug him in that island in order to keep him in the Island (to labotomise him). The thing is he knew what they were doing in the end but just let it be because he knew there was no way of getting out of that island.
@8gerrard8 no they tried to cure him.after witnessing his childeren dead and then killing his wife he went insane and who would'nt , yes the war played a part in the sense that the war was the reason he started drinking anywaz my point is they tried to cure him by trying a new experiment almost like shock treatment so that he could realise the stories he made up in his mind are false an that he made them up to protect himself from the truth,
@8gerrard8 The lady hat wrote run was done on purpose by the director to make you think something is happening on the island when it wasnt so that at the end you could be shocked:)
@Ahmariano The director? Lmao. This director is one of the best out there and wouldn't make a movie as simple as your brain can manage. There are many twists and turns in Shutter Island and you couldn't keep up. The lady wrote RUN when Chuck was gone, why would she do that?
@8gerrard8 mate use your brain its all about the payoff(the ending) it doesnt matter what the lady wrote its not freakin inception where you can dispute the ending, the ending is given to you on a platter so just eat and shut up lol but i do agree with you on one thing the director is one of the best out there.
@Ahmariano Again you show how much you fell for the ending. The Island owners tricked him into believing he had been in that Island for a long time playing these "role plays", they drugged him, they did whatever it took to keep him there and in the end he knew what they were doing and knew there was no way out so he just gave in.
@8gerrard8 PS wat was kenny dalgish thinikin when he signed henderson for 20 mp seriosuly he was no where to be seen in the un21 world cup unlike jones ...............20 TH is on its way baby GLORY GLORY UNITED!
@TheFreshbum the ironic thing is that the lobotomy appears to take place in the light house, the same place where the doctor earlier stated that nothing was going on at.
@hester23x that very last picture changes the whole story. If they didn't show that it would just mean they are gonna put him on drugs again. But that lighthouse shows that there IS more than it seems going on in that tower.
. In the novel, it is clear he receives a lobotomy involuntarily after relapsing into insanity whereas the movie is ambiguous as to whether he faked his relapse in order to "die as a good man" by being lobotomized rather than "live as a monster" without the treatment
@DominoStorm1 For one, I don't think it was very ambiguous. It seems pretty clear that he chose to play the role at the end to kill himself for what he had done by not answering to the name Teddy and the line he gave. And I think I prefer this ending to the more depressing book version.
@DominoStorm1 I actually found the end of the novel just as ambiguous as it was depicted in the film... I still haven't come to a conclusion whether he truly relapsed or was faking it for the sake of forgetting. It read as being very unclear... just like some of the best films and books, you have to decide for yourself what you want to believe.
@DominoStorm1 If he really was insane and wanted to die a good man. Why did they bring him to the lighthouse? Didnt they say they dont perform labotomies there? In order to prove to him he was insane? I still think he was an investigator.
I read the book. Teddy Daniels doesn't exist; His name is Andrew Laeddis, and he shot his insane wife, couldn't cope, created himself an alternate persona and made his true identity a murderer in his mind, who burned his wife and home. IRL, SHE did, and SHE killed his KIDS. He is patient 67. From him waking up on the ferry, to the lighthouse ending. He was living his fantasy for the billionth time and THIS TIME, Dr.s would be playing along only to snap him out, finally in the end. They fail.
I just watched shutter island, this movie was incredible. You don't realize towards the end that he is indeed "insane". In order to fully comprehend the movie you have to see it twice. His performance when he found his children dead was oscar worthy! although in reality i believe under "real" circumstances someone would have fainted to have seen such horror. I believe in the end he had a brief episode of sanity and decided it was better for him to die then be tormented from never ending guilt.
@oohhhyyeeaahhh yeah i totally agree. The whole movie was so good it had you convinced that you can't even grasp the ending at first. At leas I didn't.
@oohhhyyeeaahhh SPOILER stop reading if you haven't watched it...... The ending of the movie is that he is truly insane. All that government bull is for the viewer to be mislead. In the lighthouse, he wakes up and confesses his true identification. The truth being that his wife killed their three children and that he, Amdrew Laeddus murdered her in retaliation. The whole movie was a role play design to make him realize this and to accept it. However if he didn't, then he would receive lobotomy.
@heman7187 Yeah That's the best conclusion I got too.I just like when movies end with a cliffhanger,so you that you can draw your own conclusions about what happened :P
@oohhhyeeahh the ending to the movie is that even though he wakes up realizing his mistakes, in this scene he goes back to pretending like he doesn't. He would much rather be the war hero Marshall rather than the man he really is. There is no government operations or any bull like that.
I just watched the movie for the first time yesterday and I like that you don't really know what the truth is.There's quite a few possible explainations to it.
@toomuchlaughing Could you please explain it?Cause from what I understand,since the story is being told through Dicaprios character(who is supposedly insane) you don't know what to believe.
To the people arguing: this scenarios can play out either way, sane or not. There is enough evidence for both.
IMO, I subscribe to him being sane. After watching this movie 3 times, I went from him being insane to the opposite. I'm not going to write out a list of evidences, you can find them all over the internet, for both arguments.
One more thing: When they consult the patients and the women writes 'RUN' in teddy's notes she waits until she is alone with teddy!! Because the knows whats going on. She recognises Chuck!!
ThisStainlessHD 5 days ago 2
and you know why? remember at the very beginning teddy and chuck have to hand over there weapons. And now watch how unexperienced chuck is with his weapon! And he said he had 4 years experience. He lied! He acts from the very first minute. Teddy was never sick! Thats my ending :)
ThisStainlessHD 5 days ago 2
HE IS NOT SICK!
ThisStainlessHD 5 days ago 2
at 1:29 it's curtain call..with one quick look at the doctor he drops the act and surrenders to his death..
ygefyg 6 days ago
my theory is that when teddy/andrew has the band-aid on his head, he is halucinating or dreaming and the events never happen
murphyc763 2 weeks ago
I just watched this movie yesterday and i thought it was the ending was amazing, and few really understand the concept they want to give you, he obiously is sane he just dont wanna live with the guilt of murdering his wife and not saving his children, which is as bad as playing crazy the rest of your life. Thats why he said "what would be worse to live as a monster or die as a good man"?
dustin6220 3 weeks ago
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JWD26 3 weeks ago 3
i dont understand the ending can nyone tell me was did he really killed his wife and was he really mad or not or they were playing wid him coz so that they dont find about shutter island what about th thing his friend said when his friend was in jail and all that
dannygilbert6 3 weeks ago
what a crazy movie , i just watch it and ......
kavehfreedom2009 1 month ago
he was actually acting the fake identity so he would die as a good person, he knew he killed his wife but also knew he would have to live with it...its easy to know because of the quote he says, and how he willingly walks with the people
warmonster86 1 month ago
Yo dawg we heard you like insane people...
MultiPAVEL86 1 month ago
i dont get it....
LoLoaded935 1 month ago
he is fuckin king!!!!
intruderofficial 1 month ago
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He was crazy...just think about the cigarettes!! (hint: "Chuck" and him are smoking the same! cigarettes.........)
;-)
MightBePaul 1 month ago
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MightBePaul 1 month ago
lmfao at top comments
ExtraXtraStuff 1 month ago
they do a brainkirgury on him
DG2uGHOST 2 months ago
He knew all along
Proof:
1) "Would it be better to live as a monster or to die a good man?"
This is a choice to accept his crimes and live with the guilt or to chose to pretend to be Teddie and commit a suicide through lobotomy 2)He doesn't respond to the name "teddie" meaning he knows his name is really Andrew
3)He is aware of the psychologists watching him because you can see he looks in the same direction as "Chuck" does at 0:25
IronicInfection 2 months ago 6
SO WAS HE CRAZY FOR REAL OR NOT
Black0ps4lifemutch 2 months ago
@Black0ps4lifemutch
i think the part of him accepted what he've done, and the other part resisted
and he chose lobotomy for himself
that was a SAD ending, i was upset
ineveraskedfor 2 months ago
so... was he crazy or not?
n00bs4ib0t133 3 months ago
Am I the only one that see's that "Dr. Shean" calls him teddy?
mikejbona 3 months ago 2
Movies like these make me wonder if I'm insane 0_o
Alkanizator 3 months ago 5
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hey how come after teddy says his "Die as a Good Man" Line..His Partner calls his name when gets up to leave? i dont get it
jnay93 3 months ago
@samwats your theory is correct... There is about 10-15 things that confirm it...
LuckyTL90 3 months ago
Simply a genius
milad002 3 months ago
He wasn't insane by the end, he just wanted to die as "Marshal" as a good man rather then to live on as a "Monster" - Andrew laedis, whom blames himself for his wife's killing of their child, and whom also kills his wife subsequently.
kyoclone02 3 months ago
You either die a hero, or you.. .
wait your quoting dark knight
... umm, which would be worse. To live as a monster, or die as a good man
better
thekk2007 4 months ago
Ok My theory is he is actually Andrew who is a patient at the mental hospital, the doctors attempted the role play in order to make him see straight and it worked but Andrew decides he would would rather die as the good man (teddy, his invented persona) than have to live on as Andrew (who he really is) in the guilt of murdering his wife and not saving his kids. it's pretty obvious by the way he willingly walks away with the doctors as if he knows what there going to do to him but he wants it.
samwats 4 months ago 13
@samwats that's not a theory. that is the ending as it actually is
prinny081 3 months ago
@samwats yeah but don't call it "your theory" because the rest of the world calls it "understanding perfectly what the movie is all about"
jurgenbono 3 weeks ago
@samwats i try to explain this to some people but they just don't agree. glad someone else does
bbbaiiq 3 weeks ago
@samwats i agree
cona192 1 day ago
@Lobersteroil2 I disagree entirely. He can't both be sane and a good man (his reason for being taken to the Lighthouse). If he's sane, he knows he killed his wife - making him a monster. If he's insane, he thinks of himself as a good man, looking for his wife's murderer as a federal marshal. His reasoning shows flawed thinking patterns, which leads me to believe he's insane. It's a clever thing to say, but earlier in the film he's called a 'smart man'.
xGooNTooNx 4 months ago
I got the same feeling in the end of this movie which i got in the end of watching "The Sixth Sense" movie. These are the movies which will be always remembered and those who really understood the ending are like "Oh wait, WTF"
mbilalbhatti 4 months ago
So, Leo started doing inception in the end of shutter island.
mbilalbhatti 4 months ago
woot leo mindfucked them
Benzir14 4 months ago
Hes FAKIN IT!
VooDooChild505 4 months ago
Leonardo is spectacular :)
TheMusiclover4272 4 months ago
I belivee that he was not insane at the end. There was no way to escape from this island. So he decided to die.
Persian8787 4 months ago
@Persian8787 what
his choice had absolutely nothing to do with escaping from the island
this isn't lost lol
coocoobumbum 4 months ago
@Persian8787 it's not the island he's escaping from, it's reality. he won't be able to accept the fact that he killed his wife because she murdered their children. so he chose to die a good man than to live a monster knowing he killed his wife.
boyboydubdub 4 months ago
@Persian8787 No... Just no.. You're clearly missing what he said "To live as a monster?; or to die as a good man?" SuperMrLahlou said it best.."He chose to be lobotomised at the end to escape his past and escape being a monster" That's why he died.
Lobsteroil2 4 months ago
I had an aunt who was a paranoid schizophrenic and I saw that sometimes the truth comes through but in a distorted way. Though the end did leave some doubt.
catsalive1 4 months ago
He chose to be lobotomised at the end to escape his past and escape being a monster.
"which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man?"... to live as a monster; teddy blames himself for the insanity of his wife and therefore also the death of his children, but also "slaughtering" in the war. to die as a good man; he will no longer feel the guilt or trauma from his past.
SuperMrLahlou 5 months ago
So when Dicaprio said that at the end did his primary (dude next to him) know that he wasnt insane 4real ?
stallion0308 5 months ago
So when Dicaprio said that at the end did his primary (dude next to him) know he wasnt insane 4real?
stallion0308 5 months ago
is he sane or insane at the end..
someone answer me
sickwickert 5 months ago
@sickwickert He's not. He's accepted it and wants the lobotomy.
blueb0g 5 months ago
@sickwickert he was sane, he just didnt want to live with what he had done so he acted insane (cause they said it was his last chance) so that he could get the lobotomi.
ecstasyecs 4 months ago 4
@sickwickert Hes sane but he faked like he was insane to escape his past.
bamdaman90 3 months ago
@bamdaman90 Which past? The one that makes him regret about killing people during the war?
lajingo 2 months ago
So he was neither or both insane and sane to me fuck it
stallion0308 5 months ago
the fact that all he is told is from the doctors and such make it highly unlikely that it really ghappened. they were experimenting on that island, it was in fact an experiment unto itslef.
circasurvive777 5 months ago
You all people were fooled. He was not insane. They made him believe he was!
0Letten0 5 months ago
@0Letten0 exactlyyyyy, they are the true maniacs.
circasurvive777 5 months ago
@0Letten0
no you were fooled by yourself
you obviously think to much about a simple movie
car9melo 3 months ago
he knew what he was saying, and it was true, what goes on at that island is bad, he decided fuck it, im gettin gone
antdez1 5 months ago
i think they want make to believe he was insane. but he was not.
cause:
first scene on the boat!? he arrived at the island.
ok i read some comments not all.
but!? what is with the doctor?(woman) in the hole? who said... omg you smoked the cigars?! the pills?!
then she said: you must go- or they find me!
so in the final scene for me he accept all kidding him. and he wants to die or be lobotomy.....
hmmm or not? :S leo's movies are the best
svenshredder 5 months ago
when Andrew said what he did at the end here, was to acknowledge that he had accepted what had happened, but he could not live with it. He had gone through so much including being in the 2nd world war. And that his wife was suicidal and mentally ill,he was also an alcoholic, he had killed his wife and his children were dead. All his family were gone. All in all a very powerful human story...
opendtuning 5 months ago
the reason Teddy was not accepting what happened to him, was because he was trying to protect himself from harm. He could not live with what happened to him and his family. By blaming Laeddis with the scar and inventing a conspiracy made it, so he did not have to face the facts of his existence.The psychaitrist forced him to look at his part in the tragedy, which when it came down to it, was too painful for Andrew,that's why Andrew made up all the bullsh5t in the first place. A defence mechanism
opendtuning 5 months ago
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opendtuning 5 months ago
I think that he is sane now. But he doesnt see the point in living without his family so he acts Crazy to be killed or whatever it is they do to him so he doesnt have to have the pain anymore
Trumpetguy72937 5 months ago
UGH IM SO CONFUSED! I dont know what to belive.. some ppl says hes sane, other ppl says hes insane or a luatic. Whats the truth?? some ppl say you cant brainwash someone into beliving there insane but thats not true! I asked my mom whos btw a physicist about it and she said that if you give a person some kind of ppl and tells them stuff about there past thats not true you can make them insane!! She said that was some of the things they did in the 2d world war!!
rebeckacool 5 months ago
UGH IM SO CONFUSED! I dont know what to belive.. some ppl says hes sane, other ppl says hes insane or a luatic. Whats the truth?? some ppl say you cant brainwash someone into beliving there insane but thats not true! I asked my mom whos btw a physicist about it and she said that if you give a person some kind of ppl and tells them stuff about there past thats not true you can make them insane!! She said that was some of the things they did in the 2d world war!!
rebeckacool 5 months ago
The ending to this movie is so predictable, from the point the "insane woman" said jim (name of her husband) to teddy I knew. I was expecting a better twist at the ending.
QQmorepewpewless 5 months ago
.... He recovered from insanity, but chose to die because he didn't want to accept being a bad person ):
c0ldindark 5 months ago
After intense role-playing treatment, they finally got through to him that he has been a patient on Shutter Island for the past 2 years because he killed his wife for killing their 3 children. Throughout the movie he could not let his wife go, hence all the dream sequences. At the end, when they finally get through to him, he figures he would rather "die a good man" than "live as a monster;" meaning he would rather get a lobotomy to forget his past than live with knowing what he did.
ndwrestler 6 months ago
some of you are reading to much into the ending. He was actually insane, I think that is clearly explained at the end, when HE remembers what really happened . Now whether he was "sane" or not in this last scene, I believe he was, but since he couldn't let his wife "go" (something he says 10 times in the movie) he decided to fake it, to get lobotomy.
I think it is an overrated movie that doesn't make much sense to be honest. Spin at the end is very cheaply done.
Globox822 6 months ago
Dont you guys hear the partner say teddy his real name because teddy knows hes never getting off the island but he would rather forget about it and get sugery also when his partner keeps saying boss why would he do that?
superX360 6 months ago
wow I never caught this part of him saying that. holy crap, he's OK and he KNOWS what's up now, but pretended to be whacky again to sort of do himself in as it were. This whole time I thought he relapsed. I never caught that incredibly important line. Wow! That's sad dude! I hope the doctor intervened and explained it to the rest so the could give him a little more time, and not feel bad about wiping out his wife.
UndercoverJ7 7 months ago
I think that he actually is a cop, and that they all just lied to him, like the girl said they would
kingsmiles1 7 months ago
At The End of the movie he is NOT INSANE...He is SANE!!...look at how his partner looks at him after he said the quote...he knows what he is doing
mack2real 7 months ago
if you watch the end you see Chuck shake his head no symbolizing that Andrew has not stayed in reality.
xXBiGChAiRXx 7 months ago
he is the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
tiaobala1 7 months ago 48
@tiaobala1 DUDECEPTION
coocoobumbum 4 months ago 44
opting.
MisterBlinkyTheGreat 7 months ago
People seem to be forgetting that Teddy says "we gotta get off this rock". If you're confused by the way, they are both sane but the doctors believe they have convinced them both they are alternate person but they didn't, hence the "too smart" line. I think he didnt get lobotomised, for further reassurance, the lighthouse at the end, where there were no experiments if you remember correctly. Chuck would have also been alarmed. Something doesn't sit right with the acclaimed ending everyone is ad
MisterBlinkyTheGreat 7 months ago
he calls him: teddy.... this explains it all...
Neoalb17 7 months ago
Whats up with the lighthouse in the ending??
darknessdel454 7 months ago
what i dont understand that why chuck was shaking his head to doctor while talking to teddy ...wasnt he (leo) fully recovered from his paranoia or the ending was quite obvious and its just me ?
muzicgalaxy 7 months ago
@muzicgalaxy chuck thought leonardo wasnt fully recovered, but leonardo is. however, he doesnt want to live life knowing hes a murderer so hes gna die.
ukchris93 7 months ago
@ukchris93 aryt .. im really convinced with your 1st explanation but dont know whether he want to die or not
muzicgalaxy 7 months ago
@muzicgalaxy Teddy is his made up name, first of all. When he referred to the doctor as Chuck and started talking about getting off the rock, it was apparent to the doctor that he had reset again like he had so many times before. Only after the signal had been given by the Doc to the others that he hadn't been cured did Leo give any sign that he was faking his state of mind.
JohnVAce 7 months ago
Shutter Island is real masterpiece - great acting, directing, producing, everything. Some moments were even scary. Leonardo DiCaprio is real master (Leo acts even better than Johnny Depp). Ben Kingsley and Mark Ruffalo were great as well but I don't understand why so many people found the ending unpredictable. I predicted the ending after first 20-30 minutes. This movie is masterpiece but not as unpredictable as The Others, The Game, Identity, Fight Club, Cube 2 or The Prestige
Magnolia296 7 months ago
isnt it weird that shutter island ends on a beach and inception starts on a beach?
coldcash1001 8 months ago
@coldcash1001 and in inception he has dreams about his wife and in shutter lsland he has hallucinogens of his wife
xXBiGChAiRXx 7 months ago
What a crap ending.... better like inception.......
georgelewis 8 months ago
In my interpretation/opinion, the "die as a good man or live as a monster" quote at the end followed by DiCaprio proceeding to walk off with the "lobotomy team," if you will, following closely behind him, insinuates that he indeed faked the relapse and knowingly got a lobotomy in order to not have to live with the guilt of murdering his wife and not saving his children
Timbo6830 8 months ago 16
The doctor called him Teddy in the end which means everything about Shutter Island is true and not a dream rite?
minhmeo1209 8 months ago
@minhmeo1209 .....no.....
CirqueDuFreak2000 8 months ago
@minhmeo1209 but that was after leo starts with the"we gotta get outta here chuck"
at which point the doctor makes a face, nods to the lobotomists, and then kinda eases into playing along
he even says"thats right, were too smart for them teddy" or something to tht effect
XLR125X 8 months ago
the ending surprised the crap out of me! i was not expecting any of that to happen! 5* for the film!
ZiggyStarlet123 8 months ago
@ZiggyStarlet123 I totally agree! 5 *****
MorphingCaesar2 8 months ago
god its like inception
blink182loverx 8 months ago
SO GOOD.
just finished the book.. I love how the movie put the twist to the ending..
kurowolf 8 months ago
This movie and the movie 6th sense are awesome !
elias18ful 8 months ago
music at the end is similiar to inception music.
JelyIsCool 8 months ago
@JelyIsCool The credits are also in the same font.
rebelksc 8 months ago
just seen the movie..
and i dont get this..
was he sane acting insane
or
insane acting sane?
westendilly 8 months ago
@westendilly in the end he was sane acting insane
MrStalyn 8 months ago
@westendilly sane acting insane
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BaronLockwood 8 months ago
so does this mean he DIDINT make up rahcael and she actually lived in that cave and they are makin experiments on inmartes in the light house??/ or are they acrtually trying to help andrew?? i know he played dumb at the end and acted like he was insane being the marshall but did he do that so they would go kill him?? or just reset him and do the "zombies' I dont get why they should the lighthouse at the end!! CAN COMEONE PLZ EXPLAIN WHY THEY SHOWED THE LIGHTHOUSE!?!? my brains hurts lamo
playstationM 8 months ago
@playstationM they show the lighthouse in the end because this is the place, this is the theme for the movie. But actually, it is nothing but an old lighthouse. And yes, he is possibly being turned into a "ghost" in the very end, but it was not the point of this movie. This ending actually tells the fans that the shutter island is just a normal ordinary mental hospital and there is no evil ward or anything. No, no one lived in that cave, and no experiment had carried out there.
bluemoonmanchester 8 months ago
To those who don't understand what this last scene means:
Dicaprio tell Dr.Shin about stuff that when he is insane he would said, and Dr.Shin knoded to the guards and officials to carry on the exicution of Dicaprio, because the officials said if he continue to be one while insane, and the other while sane, he will get turn into one of the "ghost".
But Dicaprio is faking because he wanted to die, he just acted insane so he get to be executed from life.
bluemoonmanchester 8 months ago
INCEPTION!!!! he thinks hes not insane be cause some one incepted him :D
splitheaven 8 months ago
so, does the lobotomy kill him, or just make him think that he is the good guy?
Agentseaturtle 9 months ago
@Agentseaturtle It rather turns people into "zombies"
Lenneh8sutube 9 months ago
So this limbo
stevntylertoy 9 months ago
@stevntylertoy
I see what you did there
MrOrangeReal 8 months ago
The music at the end says, you got screwed ted!
MrKorawa 9 months ago
It's quite obvious that they tried to make Teddy into believing he's insane (Andrew Laeddis) but in the end he knew what was going on in that Island and knew he had no way out. So he had 2 options: Live in the island as the monster they've created him to believe he is (Andrew Laeddis) or die as the hero he knows he is, a US Marshall. In the end you can see that they perform experiments on patients on the Island (like MK Ultra).
8gerrard8 9 months ago
@8gerrard8 you are wrong
Ahmariano 8 months ago
@Ahmariano He was already insane because of War but they used that to their advantage to create stories in his head and drug him in that island in order to keep him in the Island (to labotomise him). The thing is he knew what they were doing in the end but just let it be because he knew there was no way of getting out of that island.
8gerrard8 8 months ago
@8gerrard8 no they tried to cure him.after witnessing his childeren dead and then killing his wife he went insane and who would'nt , yes the war played a part in the sense that the war was the reason he started drinking anywaz my point is they tried to cure him by trying a new experiment almost like shock treatment so that he could realise the stories he made up in his mind are false an that he made them up to protect himself from the truth,
Ahmariano 8 months ago
@Ahmariano And no, they did what they did to Teddy to many others living on that Island. That lady that wrote "RUN" on the paper is an example.
8gerrard8 8 months ago
@8gerrard8 The lady hat wrote run was done on purpose by the director to make you think something is happening on the island when it wasnt so that at the end you could be shocked:)
Ahmariano 8 months ago
@Ahmariano The director? Lmao. This director is one of the best out there and wouldn't make a movie as simple as your brain can manage. There are many twists and turns in Shutter Island and you couldn't keep up. The lady wrote RUN when Chuck was gone, why would she do that?
8gerrard8 8 months ago
@8gerrard8 mate use your brain its all about the payoff(the ending) it doesnt matter what the lady wrote its not freakin inception where you can dispute the ending, the ending is given to you on a platter so just eat and shut up lol but i do agree with you on one thing the director is one of the best out there.
Ahmariano 7 months ago
@Ahmariano Again you show how much you fell for the ending. The Island owners tricked him into believing he had been in that Island for a long time playing these "role plays", they drugged him, they did whatever it took to keep him there and in the end he knew what they were doing and knew there was no way out so he just gave in.
8gerrard8 7 months ago
@8gerrard8 lol ok mate:)
Ahmariano 7 months ago
@8gerrard8 just read the second most highest rated comment:) you will understand
Ahmariano 8 months ago
@Ahmariano Yes, but in the book the ending was different to the movie.
8gerrard8 8 months ago
@8gerrard8 UPCORSE:)
Ahmariano 8 months ago
@8gerrard8 PS wat was kenny dalgish thinikin when he signed henderson for 20 mp seriosuly he was no where to be seen in the un21 world cup unlike jones ...............20 TH is on its way baby GLORY GLORY UNITED!
Ahmariano 8 months ago
@Ahmariano Childish retard. Grow up.
8gerrard8 8 months ago
@8gerrard8 hhahahaha
XLR125X 8 months ago
Somebody please explain to me why they show the lighthouse at the very end!
Isn't it that they DO perform some kind of experiments there?
Thank's for answering!
Great movie!
TheFreshbum 9 months ago
@TheFreshbum the ironic thing is that the lobotomy appears to take place in the light house, the same place where the doctor earlier stated that nothing was going on at.
Bilbo940 9 months ago
@TheFreshbum thats where they perform the lobotomies
hester23x 9 months ago
@hester23x that very last picture changes the whole story. If they didn't show that it would just mean they are gonna put him on drugs again. But that lighthouse shows that there IS more than it seems going on in that tower.
TheFreshbum 9 months ago
if i was to sum this movie up in two words..."Unyielding Despair"...
opendtuning 9 months ago
It's great! I love to interpret this movie and I think I have it now :) The book is good, too, but unfortunately the last sentence is missing.
misscostigan 10 months ago
inception music? dun dun dun dun dun
6thewolf 10 months ago
Dicaprio acts as an insane person, who acts as an 'investigator', who then acts as a insane person still playing an investigator.
Acting within acting within acting within a dream...
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Numba1SouthParkFan 8 months ago
@Dubaikiwi inception :O!
legendmine100 6 months ago
I love the birdies = }
MagicTomb1 11 months ago
. In the novel, it is clear he receives a lobotomy involuntarily after relapsing into insanity whereas the movie is ambiguous as to whether he faked his relapse in order to "die as a good man" by being lobotomized rather than "live as a monster" without the treatment
DominoStorm1 11 months ago 35
@DominoStorm1 i think its better that way
bigblueboa 9 months ago
@DominoStorm1 For one, I don't think it was very ambiguous. It seems pretty clear that he chose to play the role at the end to kill himself for what he had done by not answering to the name Teddy and the line he gave. And I think I prefer this ending to the more depressing book version.
JohnVAce 7 months ago
@JohnVAce a lobotomy is not getting killed. its a brain operation that makes you forget everything
xXBiGChAiRXx 7 months ago
@DominoStorm1 I actually found the end of the novel just as ambiguous as it was depicted in the film... I still haven't come to a conclusion whether he truly relapsed or was faking it for the sake of forgetting. It read as being very unclear... just like some of the best films and books, you have to decide for yourself what you want to believe.
WhitePlumeria23 7 months ago
@DominoStorm1 If he really was insane and wanted to die a good man. Why did they bring him to the lighthouse? Didnt they say they dont perform labotomies there? In order to prove to him he was insane? I still think he was an investigator.
ThulinMartin 7 months ago
@ThulinMartin
Where is said, that they bring him to the lighthouse?
d3nnix313 6 months ago
@d3nnix313 At the end... It implies they take him to the lighthouse... Dont u think?
ThulinMartin 6 months ago
@DominoStorm1 Thankyou
HMVhomemadevideos 6 months ago in playlist Shutter Island
In the book, it ends with, "We're too smart for that." "We are, aren't we?" He's insane.
In the movie, it appears they fail. (They succeed. He's faking it.) He's sane.
MoralDeQue 11 months ago 4
I read the book. Teddy Daniels doesn't exist; His name is Andrew Laeddis, and he shot his insane wife, couldn't cope, created himself an alternate persona and made his true identity a murderer in his mind, who burned his wife and home. IRL, SHE did, and SHE killed his KIDS. He is patient 67. From him waking up on the ferry, to the lighthouse ending. He was living his fantasy for the billionth time and THIS TIME, Dr.s would be playing along only to snap him out, finally in the end. They fail.
MoralDeQue 11 months ago
So what's the twist?
realmusicrealtalent1 11 months ago
@conlou67 he didn't die he got the lobotomy operation.
heman7187 1 year ago
I just watched shutter island, this movie was incredible. You don't realize towards the end that he is indeed "insane". In order to fully comprehend the movie you have to see it twice. His performance when he found his children dead was oscar worthy! although in reality i believe under "real" circumstances someone would have fainted to have seen such horror. I believe in the end he had a brief episode of sanity and decided it was better for him to die then be tormented from never ending guilt.
conlou67 1 year ago
@oohhhyyeeaahhh yeah i totally agree. The whole movie was so good it had you convinced that you can't even grasp the ending at first. At leas I didn't.
heman7187 1 year ago
Teddy - 'We gotta get off this rock Chuck.'
Sheen '... What the fuck.'
MustangOliverSmith 1 year ago
@oohhhyyeeaahhh SPOILER stop reading if you haven't watched it...... The ending of the movie is that he is truly insane. All that government bull is for the viewer to be mislead. In the lighthouse, he wakes up and confesses his true identification. The truth being that his wife killed their three children and that he, Amdrew Laeddus murdered her in retaliation. The whole movie was a role play design to make him realize this and to accept it. However if he didn't, then he would receive lobotomy.
heman7187 1 year ago
@heman7187 Yeah That's the best conclusion I got too.I just like when movies end with a cliffhanger,so you that you can draw your own conclusions about what happened :P
oohhhyyeeaahhh 1 year ago
@oohhhyeeahh the ending to the movie is that even though he wakes up realizing his mistakes, in this scene he goes back to pretending like he doesn't. He would much rather be the war hero Marshall rather than the man he really is. There is no government operations or any bull like that.
heman7187 1 year ago
@oohhhyeeahh I hate to be a movie spoiler so people who haven't watched the movie yet STOP READIIN
heman7187 1 year ago
I just watched the movie for the first time yesterday and I like that you don't really know what the truth is.There's quite a few possible explainations to it.
oohhhyyeeaahhh 1 year ago
@oohhhyyeeaahhh No, there's only one explanation. If you actually paid attention to the movie then you would know.
toomuchlaughing 1 year ago
@toomuchlaughing Could you please explain it?Cause from what I understand,since the story is being told through Dicaprios character(who is supposedly insane) you don't know what to believe.
oohhhyyeeaahhh 1 year ago
So he imagined being on da boat throwin up and all dat shit 2?
BillanBoyVic7 1 year ago
@BillanBoyVic7 no he was on the boat for real
arsenalmn 1 year ago
@arsenalmn Wen he was on the boat he thot he was detective tho which means he's not crazy...
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xxMsAOCxx 1 year ago
To the people arguing: this scenarios can play out either way, sane or not. There is enough evidence for both.
IMO, I subscribe to him being sane. After watching this movie 3 times, I went from him being insane to the opposite. I'm not going to write out a list of evidences, you can find them all over the internet, for both arguments.
Neodark10 1 year ago
great bookefef
SpaceFetus 1 year ago
great book
SpaceFetus 1 year ago