Here is the deal. There is no evidence for creationism. Creationism works on one principle "if you don't understand an aspect of nature, it is okay to make up an answer." This is where we get the "Young earth theory" and also the concept of a creator.
If you don't know how it happened, fuck putting the effort in to find the truth, you can just say "Some one made it happen:" And if anyone contradicts you, put your fingers in your ears and go "La la lalala" until they stop.
"Hovind has been serving a ten-year prison sentence after being convicted of 58 federal counts, including 12 tax offenses, one count of obstructing federal agents, and 45 counts of structuring cash transactions"
You want to bless Hovind go ahead, but I highly suspect God has something entirely different planned for him unless he does some serious repenting.
If you all believe this stuff, you are being willfully ignorant. He is directly contradicting FACTS throughout this video. He is purposely misleading you all. Do your own research.
I think the biggest problem for creationists is that there is no evidence supporting their theory. Approach a creationist about why their theory is true and they will go on to say how evolution is false, but never really say why they think their evolution is right without referring to the bible.
@mymom48 there are many evidence supporting this theory....outside the bible example salinity of the ocean...just that proves a young earth......distance of the moon....size of the sun..and earth magnetic field are one of the strongest argument...and i just saying some ..........evolution rest is on may perhaps, for some reason..etc etc a guessing game...see both theories with an open mind..open mind and you'll see creation makes a better case.
@samuel01978 Actually friend, you are wrong. All of those arguments you brought up, and more actually, were debunked long ago. Hovind makes his living off presenting concepts he claims are real science, but are just nonsense, to a crowd that doesn't know he scientific concepts behind them. Evolution is not a guessing game. People work very hard to find these links, and they are there. I will give you the same advice you gave me. Look at both theories with an open mind. Creationism is a lie
@mymom48 i did look at both theories with an open mind. evolution is a lie. but can you give me the info in how they"debunked" those arguments...because when used by creationist the experts in evolution just avoid the questions....i understand they work very hard i'm not saying they don't but ussualy they don't like what they find.. you should know by now the caveman like piltdown an hoax. embryos don't have gills and living matter can only comes from living matter.
@gregrutz you make me think in that dino with feathers and i'm searching a lot both side...so you see i'm not favoring" one i just want facts science. but listen its science they even state as true living matter can only come from living matter...that alone disprove evolution
@samuel01978 Your creations evidence does not match what we find in nature. There is no evidence of a global flood. There is much evidence the world is 4.5 billion years old.
There are vast deposites of salt buried underground, did you figure them in on your salinity of the oceans calculations?
@gregrutz i'm so impresed of you stating of no evidence of a global flood...when the world is full of it......can you tell me some of the much evidence of a 4.5 b years old world please..i would like to have it. because oll of them is faulty and go agaisnt science
@samuel01978 The ‘Super Group’ of rocks in the Grand Canyon is below the level layers at the east end. These layers were laid down level, block faulted into mountains [tilted], worn flat, and then the Teapeats Sandstone was laid down over the basement layers. Then another 5000 feet of sediments was laid down, some wind blown desert sands, some corals. Then the whole area got raised to 8000 feet above sea level. Finally water flowing down hill cut the canyon. How long do you think this took?
@gregrutz a long time and little water? or a little time and lots o water? could be the answer...even geologist admit they do NOT know how it form but they insisted the colorado river formed...but there should be a gigantic river delta when the river enters the gulf of california but the delta is relativety tiny meaning that river did not formed.
@samuel01978 Creatards panic when they see the Grand Canyon and start making up stories because it is obvious the canyon is big and took a lot of time to make. Geologists look at the rock layers exposed and wonder how long they took for them to be laid down and then raised up to 8000 feet above sea level before the river cut the canyon.
@samuel01978 and by the way the world is full of water erosion evidence all ever even in places far away from the ocean and where is little or no rain.
@mymom48 a theory is the rotation of the planets moon and galaxies...they all rotate different from each other...if evolution is true and big bang occurs they all should be rotating the same check conservation of angular momentum. big bang according to this law never occur..and thats just one proof.
@samuel01978 Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang.... In that one statement you have made everything crystal clear. You have no knowledge of evolution other than what creationists have told you, since that is an argument they love to use.
If you only ever here their side of the story, then of course evolution won't make a lick of sense. Remember that these guys are flat out lying to you bro. Check out a website called talkorigins they go over creationist arguments
@mymom48 i just to believe in evolution ....and evolution has noting to do with the big bang" but if no big bang no evolution... i just keep saying lets no keep going back and forth with comments...lets see facts and evidence. just like the courts will do it because sooo far hard cold evidence states of a young earth... if otherwise i will like to have the info too.
@samuel01978 If all you do is watch Hovind video then all you will see is crap about a young earth. Read a Geology book, go study the layers in the Grand Canyon.
@ProMajtas His canopy theory (I don't think he mentions it in this seminar) is absolutly bogus. It (canopy theory) is a prime example who what kind of "evidence" Hovind will use to establish a theory.
@TioPhillippe by the definition of a theory I can conclude that Hovind's theory is a theory. dude you need a PHD to figure it out. both evolution and creation are theories, but I have evidence for mine and you use evidence proven wrong 40 years ago, that is the only difference.
Evoultion is no theory (change in each generation is fact). The theory of evolution is "why does it happen" (THAT is the theory), and it has evidence. No actually i don't need a Ph.d. to figure it out. If you are interested in seeing why the canopy theory is impossible I can link you to a video right here on youtube.
What do you mean specificly when you say that it was proven wrong 40 years ago? Please inlighten me with this evidence of yours.
@samuel01978 Well I don't have time for long conversation, so I will round it up. There is no scientific evidence to support creation but there is evidence to show that earth is young. When you think about origins you will figure out two possibilities. Either universe created itself (which there is no SCIENTIFIC proof (but should be because they teach it as science and fact) or someone created it.
another? No, but the guide lines are when marriage takes place, Reduction also of what? diseases that are a derviative by not listening to these instructions, there are things in life that discerns certain respects, and the truths should be respected. but to call attraction evil is wrong, to say persons are evil for emotion, is wrong. how emotion is handled is pretty much the answer of all we have lived to learn. already done. all work is already done, all we really need is updates to what has
WE have science today that can no longer deny the truths but the problem exists in teaching truth now. but again, back to human nature and what is made to be called wrong. in youth we are given a youthful way, ie: to find our mate, spouse. etc. if what we know also taught by science, the human nature, beautiful, to someone, their spouse. we have instructions due to illnesses and diseases, and we are also updated per in the Grace of God, what he has provided us. is it evil to be attracted to one
What calls things evil, is exactly persons actions, that in like alcohol, for example, accidents and irresponsible behaviors allows alcohol to be called evil because of the actions related to what people do while consuming alcohol. If a persons actions are to be thought of evil then that is what gave it a bad name. for example. now human emotion. sexuality. Men are veril and woman feminine. or some anyway. the demise of the family unit has caused this difference. the times also have changed over
God bless you kent hovind and family members. WERE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU! Its easy to see how jesus was persecuted for "telling the truth" I MEAN, MOST MY FRIENDS THOUGHT I LOST MY MIND" lol. Just cause i didn't want to party no more or think the government was playing there part in teaching evolution and rewriting history! THANK YOU LORD FOR GIVING ME A HEALTHY DOSE COMMON SENSE!
For people who don't believe in God should study the human body, (amazing and complex) Also the planetary alignment, if Earth was any closer to the sun we would all burn up and any farther away we would all freeze!
"The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense."
Uuhh. I think the Bible has a much better explanation…
Please listen closely to what the Bible says regarding this very thing:
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” Rom 1:20
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.” John 3:36
Please accept Jesus today as your Lord and Savior if you want salvation.
@LordTroll9000 The problem with people like you is you have no game... dont talk crap !!! debate your point of view or DRIFT... You are half the man Dr Hovind is... id happy to school you? feel free to pose an argument...
you're close but timeline is a bit off - thers not 3 gods =God's son is Jesus + Holy Spirit are 1 God = Flood was 4,000+ yrs ago -Noah+family were kept alive + Jesus got here 2,000 yrs ago
Hovind, you are insult to all kind of animals,,, no wonder you're in the Jail,,, by the way, have you done the Elvis Presley's son,,, Jail hose rock.. LOOOl
Also there has not been fact that evolution is true. This guy has been offering an award for years for anyone who has one fact! No one has proved it yet-and they'll never be able to.
hovind looks a little like baseball player brooks robinson.he tells the absolute truth.if we had public school teachers as intelligent as kent hovind then i would send my children to public schools,but i can't because they would be taught the unscientific farce of evolution.
Kent is a fascinating teacher, hope he gets out of jail real soon! Remember Daniel in the Lion's Den, Joseph imprisoned by his brothers, St Paul in prison...
@ansaz14 oh evolution is so much better. Nothing produced something and a single cell organism produced the entire range of genetic information in the biosphere without degeneration that is the product of mutation. By the way which faulty Generalization can you point out.
@gregrutz unlike the Navajo Creator the Christian one sent his son and as such even empiricists like John Locke can be christians. There was something that could be seen and touched from him
@ansaz14 Oh you are right, the Christian creator sent his son [god#2] to earth and we killed him so god #1 was so happy he let us go to heaven but later flooded the earth and killed everyone.
@gregrutz are you familiar with chronological order? By the way only humans can be Christian.And the trinity does not present three Gods; which is why Christianity is a monotheisitc religion; A tri-person being os the one God
So apparently there was "warterr" up there. We already have about a ton of atmosphere on our heads. What would be the consequences of having a "biblical flood" amount of water up there as well? But lets face it, If you believe the bible as literal proof then you can just say what you want. Man lived with dinosaurs, Language came about one arvo on the tower of babel, and the animals just walked the ark on there own.
@ansaz14 I don't think it's feasible at all to propose that at a point in relatively recent history two of every animal boarded the ark to preserve all that there is today. There were no fatalities and there was plenty of room for all their food, medicinal and social needs. That this floating mammoth zoo was cared for by 8 people with no prior experience and or knowledge of most of the animals on the ark. This is a story and has nothing to do with reality.
@ptango101: Well the feasibility study demonstrates otherwise. If everything was obvious we would have no needs for such studies would we? it's on creation.com the contributors on the sites have at least a masters in the relevant fields that they contribute in.
@ansaz14 What about the genetic issues? How do you go from a pair of some generic kind to the millions of diverse species we have today? Some estimates put the the rate of change on the genetic level at 1 every 2 days. This is some sort of weird super evolution to get to this stage in 4000 years.
There is a difference between a feasibility study and grasping at straws and making excuses. Go pick eight people right now, put them in charge of 800 different animals in a football stadium.
@ptango101 : at the end of the day founders effect and natural selection ensure dogs produce dogs, men produce men. Inseminate a chimp with human sperm and (2% difference) lets see the product. You would want to explore at what percentage change result in mutation becoming relentlessly fatal.
@ansaz14 Actually natural selection allows for slight change. The offspring is never exactly the same as the parent. The further removed sequential offspring get the for different they are. Dog 5670 is not the same as dog 402. Add in some natural barriers and you get things like ring species happening and the fist steps of observable speciation. Google "ring species" before you comment. When is a "kind" no longer part of a "kind" in the creationist hand book?
@ansaz14 Yes dogs produce dogs, apes produce apes, that is why humans are still apes, still mammals, still tetrapods, still cordates.
Creatards don't understand evolution and are always trying to breed a horse and a donkey to prove something. Humans and chimps could interbreed when they were the same animal 10 million years ago, they split apart enough that they can't breed, evoluton of new species.
@ptango101 Noah was 600 hundred years when he built the ark, must have been pretty smart, could have learned from old people who lived long too, Remebmber they only took in land animals, and its amazing how small babies are, I know we see movies and pictures of large animals going into ark, but its common sense to take aboard babies cause they are easier to manage, dont forget climate was different,
God didnt say go into ark, He said come into ark.,
@jurnagin You have to use special pleading to make this look good. What about the multitude of problems and questions that are raised when this myth is proposed as a historical event?
great pyramids were built but whres the historical records?
people say that today so much of our historyis on computers that a reat deal of info would be lost cause hardives only last a few years, some states are even considering not requiring schools to teach handwriting,
@jurnagin We don't have any evidence of the ark and the flood. If you try to insert it into history you fail because it makes no sense. Repunzel and Humpty Dumpty are stories as well. Is that good enough to make them fact.
@ptango101 wood rots, and they probably used it to build things and for firewood. Some people say they have it in Turkey, but I dont believe that,
Geologist say theres no evidence for flood, but they are atheists Their ageda is to mislead people, and when they are questioned about Ark they refer you to scientist in another field,
but about 70% of world is covered in water today, where did it come from? (canopy theory),
@jurnagin Scientists certainly do not try and mislead people. Science offers us the best explanations possible based on accumulated evidence. If new evidence which contradicts the old then the theories are revised. A theory such as evolution is so well supported by millions of pieces of evidence and has not been debunked for 150 years by any creationist arguments. Canopy theory is also widely discredited.
@CJandthesoup I agree with you, but scientist cant just drop bad theories without replacing them cause the public will want anwsers,
There's no way to prove canopy theroy using science, remember Saturn has rings, did they always look the same? were there more rings? we may never know,
If we had photo of earth that showed canopy of water then that will be evidence but most likely theres not a photo anywhere showing how earth looked 5 thousand years ago from orbit.
@ansaz14 "he was being aided by a being powerful enough to create the world" ??? this is known as the fallacious argument from special pleading. You cannot even prove your particular god exists let alone what he is capable of and how he feels about things. Spider man has a set of skills as well. We special plead when we say who would win between him and batman. Just as much credibility.
@jurnagin Just stop and think about how many animals there are on earth, there are thousands if not millions we have not discovered. You then have to double that number to accept the story of Noah. How can you rationally believe that an ark of that size could be built thousands of years ago as well as the ability to round up animals from the entire globe.
those people were not dumb, If God told Noah to build something then he was pretty smart, and people lived long time, many people were smart, The Chiness has records of very large boats, remember the Ark was just a barge, could of had hole in middle with walls to circulate air and add flexibility and rounding up animals is very simple if you had years to do it, jut go to a zoo and grab the babies .
Noah probably had plenty of friends and assciates who could of helped in raising exotic animals to one day take their babies on Ark, you can have thousands of cages in a ark that fits 2 of every kind of land animals we see today easily, babies, babies,babies,babies, duh, and he dint bring abord incects or fish,thats over 90% of our animals today.
@jurnagin In the video he says that Noah needed to only bring aboard the different 'kinds' of animals. If he only brought the 'horse kind', then WHERE did zebra's come from? Did God just say, 'oh wait, i'm going to make some zebras, some lynx's, various types of bears etc' way after he 'created' all the animals on the earth and then killed loads of them all off?
It is one thing to worship a God, but to have faith and to 'love' an invisible being who systematically wipes out huge populations
Respond to this video... ...is disgusting. How can you possibly accept a God who willingly slaughters babies, children, women and men? How can you accept a God that sets followers challenges where children are killed and women are raped?
Read the works of some of the greatest human minds for a clue about the beautifully intricate universe that we live in, not a book that was written by goatherds and repeatedly altered and changed over 900 years.
@CJandthesoup : the alternative is believing that billions of years ago nothing produced matter and here we are. Nothing produces nothing, something produces something.
@ansaz14 The big bang is a theory based on the way we observe the universe. Red shift clearly implies that galaxies are moving apart, and if they all moving apart we can reverse the process and see that once they were all clumped together. This is theory. When more evidence comes to light we can alter our theory and we will slowly begin to understand the universe better and better.
to accept things that are true that have been proved by the overwhelming evidence (e.g. evolution). The church locked up Galileo for suggesting a sun-centred universe (essentially just a sun centred solar system), 100's of years later the church accepted it. They now accept that we are a planet in one solar system in one galaxy out of billions. The walls of the church will eventually be reduced to nothing at the hands of rational, logical, science.
@CJandthesoup Actually it isn't any infinite regress. Eternal existence is by definition not a product of anything. It is much easier to believe in eternal than spontaneous generation from nothingness. Harry took the pen vs the men faded from existence.
@ansaz14 Perpetual motion machines by definition produce more work or energy than they consume and can work indefinitely. This does not mean that they exist. Look up the ontological argument.
@CJandthesoup I have an there are valid and invalid formulations of it. It is an excercise in modal logic and as such covers all possiblities. It's like playing mine sweeper only that in this case there is only one mine
@ansaz14 The Ontological argument is an absurd argument that is widely regarded as hugely flawed. Look at Kant's criticisms. The structure of the argument let's you define things into existence, and in no way does it ever prove a Christian God. If you think it supports your faith you are severely mistaken and have not studied the argument and it's criticism's properly.
I don't know where the universe came from, the thought of something coming from nothing is impossible to comprehend because the human mind simply CANNOT comprehend it. We also can't comprehend the size of the universe as it is SO vast. The big bang is a theory that fits with what we know. I don't think any scientist would be 100% confident that the theory is 100% water-tight. However, it is better to be rational and alter your opinion based on mounting evidence than be stubborn and refuse...
@ansaz14 Have you even considered how many genetic changes need to happen to a few thousand of your vague "kinds" to reach the level of diversity today? Do the maths. You whole proposal fails on this alone. What kind gave rise to the incredibly unique animals like kangaroos and platypuses? If they all came from one boat why don't we find these animals anywhere else. These are the practical problems that need to be addressed.
A) it's 2003 in the video and he's using a 1994 textbook and b) he's using an introductory highschool-entry level college science textbook. Dishonesty= DisHovinesty.
@skydome29 am in college. nothing has changed. It's amazing how everything else in science that we are taught has proof and evolution we just have to take it, or we will apparently get it later on. Masters haven't made things any clearer or more obvious
@ansaz14 Evolution is actually one of the theories in science that has the MOST evidence. I Don't know what "everything else" is in science but many still require a lot more investigation than evolution. If you want something with many unknowns go look at astronomy. A good small discussion on this topic is "Randolph Nesse Dawkins interview" address your concerns.
"Someone is seriously wrong" I am afraid you are Mr.Hovind,in fact your barking Darwin is correct and easily proved so,and Genesis is a myth it was always meant to be.A Scientist you are not.
Hovind's doctorate was in "Christian Education" from the Patriot Bible University which is not accredited by any recognized accreditation agency. He has no scientific qualifications. His dissertation has no title, no TOC, outlines 16 chapters but contains only 4, has no bibliography, and is full of errors such as "geological epic" for "geological epoch", and "centrifical force" for "centrifugal force". It contains no original research, the basis on which a PhD is supposed to be awarded.
@YesYou123333 The web is full of content from people who have refuted the nonsense that Hovind has come up with. What's the point of replicating this work?
@CarajilloDulce There are other "people" with even greater credentials who agree with Hovind. The science community is chalk full of God-Haters who's only goal in life is to destroy the Bible. It's nice to see someone like Hovind pointing out their nonsense. Even I, as a kid, was indoctrinated with the BS the science community hands out every day. I never knew what the Bible meant with 1 Corinthians 1:19 but now I do.
@YesYou123333 "Even greater credentials" than whom exactly? The scientific community is likely full of people busy investigating and observing various phenomena. I doubt they waste much time hating supernatural deities that may or may not exist.
@CarajilloDulce: actually there isn't. Creation models have also upgraded with increase of knowledge and creationist expertise. Creation.com. at this point in history creationists have a stronger philosophical and scientific case
@ansaz14 ""creationists have a stronger philosophical and scientific case"" lmao. According to who? other creationists? Every new discovery puts your "theory" further and further into the category of religion and not science. Nothing in creationism can be rigorously tested, retested, peer reviewed or sufficiently falsified. Creationism is a joke.
@ansaz14 "Creationist Expertise"? That sounds like an oxymoron in keeping with "Creation Science" I suppose one could say that YEEC sermons are becoming more complicated, and in that complexity making less sense than the standard religious rhetoric, but they are certainly not breaking any new ground scientifically.
@YesYou123333 The web is full of content from people who have refuted the nonsense that Hovind has come up with. What's the point of replicating this work?
@ansaz14 ... how does what make what Hovind is saying not true? (apart from the fact that the stuff he says is normally associated with the rear end of a bull).
Wow, he never stood a chance against science. He talks a lot but never backs up anything he says with evidence. Like a used car salesman. He tried to pretend he had a PhD once you know, until he got busted.
He deserves to be in jail for his bizarre attacks on education.
He doesn't give any. He lies a lot pretending there's some, but he never actually presents any. Watch it for yourself and point any out if you find any.
@Ozzyman200 evolution is not education,it was indoctrination. I remember how we broke down Lamarck's theory and demonstrated it was wrong. We never once examined the weaknesses of evolution; Some of us managed using high school knowledge to point out a few weaknesses they told us in college it would make more sense. It only got worse.
@ansaz14 So do you apply this same high school level knowledge to your theory of choice or does it get a pass. A bunch of kids sitting around after prayer group mangling the theory of evolution doesn't really mean much. You just all reinforced you deficient knowledge in the subject.
@Ozzyman200 Yes I am the only scientist who has made a scientific dissent from Darwinism. I am also the only scientist that believes in Jesus. I am also the only scientist that believes in God. I don't have a masters yet but I'm sure you'll find peer reviewed articles by brilliant scientists on creation.com
Lastly, my gripe here is with Kent Hovind. He misrepresents himself all the time..the IRS figured that out about him. He makes scientific claims that are 180 degrees out. Problem is, Hovind repeatedly gives unsuspecting people junk information about science. This misinformation misleads people into "believing" junk science. He is a compleat discredit to science. Certainly there must be a better "creation scientist" who can make the case....there is no need to resort to listening to Kent Hovind.
As for "navel"... I suppose it easily could have meant something other than the navel we are familiar with. Not necessary to nit-pick. The Bible doesn't say anything about the dinosaurs or the other millions of years of life on earth before man. Know why?...because men wrote it. These men had no idea dinosaurs existed, or the cretaceous period for that matter. If this God entity had written or divinely inspired the writing..cont--->>>
cont--->>> certainly he/she/it would have at least put in a simple chapter on penicillin. This one chapter alone would have saved millions of people for doing nothing more than God telling one of his disciples to write it down and add it into the Bible. I mean, c'mon..all this stuff in the Bible and not a word about medicine that could save millions. God could have told people that water didnt possess evil spirits..on & on.
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with people believing something. I m saying that it doesn't add up...not even close. Just the idea that I could live my entire life helping the less-fortunate and if I didn't believe...I would be cast into a place where I burn for eternity !!! That is torture FOREVER. Our court system doesn't hand out torture a a sentence. Mere men can tell what torture is and that it is wrong. A perfect all-knowing being would miss this !!! Cant buy it. Cheers.
@orangemod There r many chapters in the Bible on how God has supplied healing for those that believe Him. If u don't believe that He is, if u don't love Him, if u insist on doing things ur own way He will let u. Even still He made the body with ability to heal itself. And gave man the intelligence to invent penicillin & other medicines.
God is real. If you don't believe it ask Him. If you (key word) Sincerely seek Him, He will reveal Himself to you. Mat 7:7 “Ask and you will receive. Search and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened for you.” Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” The choice is yours. Ask Jesus to save you before it's to late! I love you Jesus You live in my heart!
@gregrutz I've been a Christian, a street evangelist for 30 yrs. Never seen a person seeking God not find Him. What I have seen r many hundreds of people that seek God find Him and r born again and filled with the joy of God in just a few seconds. No brainwashing, the spirit is washed. It's impossible for God to lie. He said Seek Him & u will find Him. Rom 10:9 if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
"Thats not part of science folks"...so let me turn to the Bible (a book of fables written by ignorant sheep-herders) for scientific facts. LOL LOL It's sad that there are still people who have been so wrong about so much for so long, yet "believe" they are right. Kent, your beliefs are circling the drain. This guy believes in the ark !?!?!? Oh my, even 5 year old's know that was a silly fable. Forget the fact that it is impossible scientifically ....just sad...how embarrassing for him.
@orangemod How do u know 5 year old's know that was a silly fable? Facts don't bare this out. According to a trio of Gallup surveys more than 3/4 of Americans believe the Bible is literally the word of God or inspired by the word of God, with only 19 percent saying the Good Book is a compendium of myth and legend. I know u think all of us r wrong also ignorant. Could it b all these people know something u don't? What is supposedly impossible scientifically?
@string1248 A recent Gallup pole says that 82% of Americans can tell you who the winner of American Idol is...but cant tell you who won the last Nobel Prize...I rest my case.
Ok, maybe a cheap shot. Christian religion has had 2,000 years to work out all the inconsistencies and come up with tangible proof....it hasn't. The easiest way to tell if the Bible fails is to simply read it. It is so full of incorrect statements and makes claims that are ridiculous to even a casual observer. Could it be true??..well, sure it could be true. But it doesn't stand up to analysis. As for "ignorant"..no, I wont pull the ignorant card on anyone. I just don't buy it. Cheers !!
@gregrutz I don't know that everyone in the Middle East thinks that. The glorious thing about it is that you don't have to go by what anybody thinks or says. If you go to God directly He will reveal truth to you.
@gregrutz A mocker will never see God. I'll tell u how I met God. I was an agnostic. Just me & God. I asked Him If He where real to prove it to me I wanted to know Him and that I would follow Him. I meant that with all my heart. All He said was “ try Me” I asked Him to come into my heart and save me. He wrote the truth of all that He is onto my heart. Never learned it in a book. Filled me with the most incredible joy and love. Since then I know that I know that I know what truth is. He is God!
@ansaz14 Ans, I did, by no means, intend to be a "snob" If that is how you took it, I'm sorry you feel that way. Actually, you'll never catch me trying to appear to be some kinda "genius" I'm a very average guy just like any other. The info. I am passing on is that of the real experts... scientists. So I am not sure why I was perceived to be a snob. If you make a claim like the fable "Noah's Ark", you will have to back it up with scientific evidence/etc. cont.-->>
Here is the deal. There is no evidence for creationism. Creationism works on one principle "if you don't understand an aspect of nature, it is okay to make up an answer." This is where we get the "Young earth theory" and also the concept of a creator.
If you don't know how it happened, fuck putting the effort in to find the truth, you can just say "Some one made it happen:" And if anyone contradicts you, put your fingers in your ears and go "La la lalala" until they stop.
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"Hovind has been serving a ten-year prison sentence after being convicted of 58 federal counts, including 12 tax offenses, one count of obstructing federal agents, and 45 counts of structuring cash transactions"
You want to bless Hovind go ahead, but I highly suspect God has something entirely different planned for him unless he does some serious repenting.
redddbaron 1 week ago
If you all believe this stuff, you are being willfully ignorant. He is directly contradicting FACTS throughout this video. He is purposely misleading you all. Do your own research.
ultim4t32 2 weeks ago
I think the biggest problem for creationists is that there is no evidence supporting their theory. Approach a creationist about why their theory is true and they will go on to say how evolution is false, but never really say why they think their evolution is right without referring to the bible.
mymom48 3 weeks ago
@mymom48 there are many evidence supporting this theory....outside the bible example salinity of the ocean...just that proves a young earth......distance of the moon....size of the sun..and earth magnetic field are one of the strongest argument...and i just saying some ..........evolution rest is on may perhaps, for some reason..etc etc a guessing game...see both theories with an open mind..open mind and you'll see creation makes a better case.
samuel01978 2 weeks ago
@samuel01978 Actually friend, you are wrong. All of those arguments you brought up, and more actually, were debunked long ago. Hovind makes his living off presenting concepts he claims are real science, but are just nonsense, to a crowd that doesn't know he scientific concepts behind them. Evolution is not a guessing game. People work very hard to find these links, and they are there. I will give you the same advice you gave me. Look at both theories with an open mind. Creationism is a lie
mymom48 1 week ago
@mymom48 i did look at both theories with an open mind. evolution is a lie. but can you give me the info in how they"debunked" those arguments...because when used by creationist the experts in evolution just avoid the questions....i understand they work very hard i'm not saying they don't but ussualy they don't like what they find.. you should know by now the caveman like piltdown an hoax. embryos don't have gills and living matter can only comes from living matter.
samuel01978 1 week ago
@samuel01978 Piltdown was the ONLY hoax. What about the dinosaur fossils with feathers?
gregrutz 1 week ago
@gregrutz you make me think in that dino with feathers and i'm searching a lot both side...so you see i'm not favoring" one i just want facts science. but listen its science they even state as true living matter can only come from living matter...that alone disprove evolution
samuel01978 5 days ago
@samuel01978 So If God made the first cell, then you would believe in Darwin's evolution?
gregrutz 5 days ago
@samuel01978 Your creations evidence does not match what we find in nature. There is no evidence of a global flood. There is much evidence the world is 4.5 billion years old.
There are vast deposites of salt buried underground, did you figure them in on your salinity of the oceans calculations?
gregrutz 1 week ago
@gregrutz i'm so impresed of you stating of no evidence of a global flood...when the world is full of it......can you tell me some of the much evidence of a 4.5 b years old world please..i would like to have it. because oll of them is faulty and go agaisnt science
samuel01978 5 days ago
@samuel01978 The ‘Super Group’ of rocks in the Grand Canyon is below the level layers at the east end. These layers were laid down level, block faulted into mountains [tilted], worn flat, and then the Teapeats Sandstone was laid down over the basement layers. Then another 5000 feet of sediments was laid down, some wind blown desert sands, some corals. Then the whole area got raised to 8000 feet above sea level. Finally water flowing down hill cut the canyon. How long do you think this took?
gregrutz 5 days ago
@gregrutz a long time and little water? or a little time and lots o water? could be the answer...even geologist admit they do NOT know how it form but they insisted the colorado river formed...but there should be a gigantic river delta when the river enters the gulf of california but the delta is relativety tiny meaning that river did not formed.
samuel01978 5 days ago
@samuel01978 Creatards panic when they see the Grand Canyon and start making up stories because it is obvious the canyon is big and took a lot of time to make. Geologists look at the rock layers exposed and wonder how long they took for them to be laid down and then raised up to 8000 feet above sea level before the river cut the canyon.
BTW rivers Do make V shaped canyon.
gregrutz 4 days ago
@samuel01978 and by the way the world is full of water erosion evidence all ever even in places far away from the ocean and where is little or no rain.
samuel01978 5 days ago
@samuel01978 There was rain there millions of years ago.
gregrutz 5 days ago
@mymom48 a theory is the rotation of the planets moon and galaxies...they all rotate different from each other...if evolution is true and big bang occurs they all should be rotating the same check conservation of angular momentum. big bang according to this law never occur..and thats just one proof.
samuel01978 1 week ago
@samuel01978 Kent quote mined an article about spinning super nova exploding and the dummy thinks the universe was spinning at the big bang. LOL
gregrutz 1 week ago
@samuel01978 Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang.... In that one statement you have made everything crystal clear. You have no knowledge of evolution other than what creationists have told you, since that is an argument they love to use.
If you only ever here their side of the story, then of course evolution won't make a lick of sense. Remember that these guys are flat out lying to you bro. Check out a website called talkorigins they go over creationist arguments
mymom48 1 week ago
@mymom48 i just to believe in evolution ....and evolution has noting to do with the big bang" but if no big bang no evolution... i just keep saying lets no keep going back and forth with comments...lets see facts and evidence. just like the courts will do it because sooo far hard cold evidence states of a young earth... if otherwise i will like to have the info too.
samuel01978 5 days ago
@samuel01978 If all you do is watch Hovind video then all you will see is crap about a young earth. Read a Geology book, go study the layers in the Grand Canyon.
gregrutz 5 days ago
I love that most of the comments say that he is a liar but you don't provide any evidence to disprove anything he said in this seminar.
ProMajtas 1 month ago
@ProMajtas His canopy theory (I don't think he mentions it in this seminar) is absolutly bogus. It (canopy theory) is a prime example who what kind of "evidence" Hovind will use to establish a theory.
TioPhillippe 2 weeks ago
@TioPhillippe by the definition of a theory I can conclude that Hovind's theory is a theory. dude you need a PHD to figure it out. both evolution and creation are theories, but I have evidence for mine and you use evidence proven wrong 40 years ago, that is the only difference.
ProMajtas 2 weeks ago
@ProMajtas
Evoultion is no theory (change in each generation is fact). The theory of evolution is "why does it happen" (THAT is the theory), and it has evidence. No actually i don't need a Ph.d. to figure it out. If you are interested in seeing why the canopy theory is impossible I can link you to a video right here on youtube.
What do you mean specificly when you say that it was proven wrong 40 years ago? Please inlighten me with this evidence of yours.
:-)
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TioPhillippe 2 weeks ago
@ProMajtas thats because my friend is there an evidence .. actually will support creation
samuel01978 1 week ago
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@samuel01978 Well I don't have time for long conversation, so I will round it up. There is no scientific evidence to support creation but there is evidence to show that earth is young. When you think about origins you will figure out two possibilities. Either universe created itself (which there is no SCIENTIFIC proof (but should be because they teach it as science and fact) or someone created it.
ProMajtas 1 week ago
Breaking news! there is no god! face it
joholj1204 1 month ago
been taught.
boxerpup7 1 month ago
another? No, but the guide lines are when marriage takes place, Reduction also of what? diseases that are a derviative by not listening to these instructions, there are things in life that discerns certain respects, and the truths should be respected. but to call attraction evil is wrong, to say persons are evil for emotion, is wrong. how emotion is handled is pretty much the answer of all we have lived to learn. already done. all work is already done, all we really need is updates to what has
boxerpup7 1 month ago
WE have science today that can no longer deny the truths but the problem exists in teaching truth now. but again, back to human nature and what is made to be called wrong. in youth we are given a youthful way, ie: to find our mate, spouse. etc. if what we know also taught by science, the human nature, beautiful, to someone, their spouse. we have instructions due to illnesses and diseases, and we are also updated per in the Grace of God, what he has provided us. is it evil to be attracted to one
boxerpup7 1 month ago
What calls things evil, is exactly persons actions, that in like alcohol, for example, accidents and irresponsible behaviors allows alcohol to be called evil because of the actions related to what people do while consuming alcohol. If a persons actions are to be thought of evil then that is what gave it a bad name. for example. now human emotion. sexuality. Men are veril and woman feminine. or some anyway. the demise of the family unit has caused this difference. the times also have changed over
boxerpup7 1 month ago
God bless you kent hovind and family members. WERE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU! Its easy to see how jesus was persecuted for "telling the truth" I MEAN, MOST MY FRIENDS THOUGHT I LOST MY MIND" lol. Just cause i didn't want to party no more or think the government was playing there part in teaching evolution and rewriting history! THANK YOU LORD FOR GIVING ME A HEALTHY DOSE COMMON SENSE!
oklahomakidz 2 months ago 2
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Kent hovind is a slobbering highschool dropout who bought a bogus theology degree from a Bible college for $300 and now calls himself a 'doctor'.
It takes a VERY SPECIAL kind of retard to believe someone like that.... Oh, HELLO RETARD!!!
'Unfortunately, Kent Hovind’s document repeatedly misrepresents or misunderstands not only our article, but the issues themselves.'
-ANSWERS IN GENESIS.
Yes, even ANSWERS IN GENESIS admit that Hovind is a lying fucking retard!!!
DocReasonable 1 month ago 2
@oklahomakidz You did lose you mind >>to Kent's lies.
Sorry he is in prison, LOL
gregrutz 1 month ago
@gregrutz mandela was in prison and many good men are i just want to see evidence of his lies. no just comments.
samuel01978 1 week ago
absolutely fucking insane.
smileandwave1987 2 months ago
interesting and intelligent man, but debating gods existence by science is retarded, god is a spirit how can science measure such matter??
mathiue777 2 months ago
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For people who don't believe in God should study the human body, (amazing and complex) Also the planetary alignment, if Earth was any closer to the sun we would all burn up and any farther away we would all freeze!
77Readyornot 2 months ago
@c1cter... Did you watch it?
marcalvira 2 months ago
wow,,, only an idiot would call his seminar Dinosaurs and the Bible. so where is Hovind now?
c1cter 2 months ago
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Evolution vs Creation:
First Evolution:
"The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense."
Uuhh. I think the Bible has a much better explanation…
7777Ralph 2 months ago
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Please listen closely to what the Bible says regarding this very thing:
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” Rom 1:20
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.” John 3:36
Please accept Jesus today as your Lord and Savior if you want salvation.
7777Ralph 2 months ago
Is he still in prison?
waycooltoo 2 months ago
It made me think, alright. Think about clicking to another video.
AuraHero 3 months ago
@AuraHero you have to have an IQ above 20 to understand what he is talking about. So I'm guessing the other video you clicked to was Spongebob
MRSTONE969 2 months ago
@MRSTONE969 Indeed. I had a high enough IQ to tell that this guy is full of shit.
AuraHero 1 month ago
HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHAT A FRUITCAKE KENT HOVIND WHAT A FUCKING CULT BELIEVER WHAT A PATHETIC KKKKRISTIAN MAGGOT
LordTroll9000 3 months ago
@LordTroll9000 The problem with people like you is you have no game... dont talk crap !!! debate your point of view or DRIFT... You are half the man Dr Hovind is... id happy to school you? feel free to pose an argument...
ASONOFUNCLESAM 3 months ago
you're close but timeline is a bit off - thers not 3 gods =God's son is Jesus + Holy Spirit are 1 God = Flood was 4,000+ yrs ago -Noah+family were kept alive + Jesus got here 2,000 yrs ago
rammar09 4 months ago
I wish Kent was my science teacher in high school
jimthebaptist67 5 months ago
hahaha i love this guy! he builds me up in faith also
siarrahbabey14 6 months ago
Hovind, you are insult to all kind of animals,,, no wonder you're in the Jail,,, by the way, have you done the Elvis Presley's son,,, Jail hose rock.. LOOOl
c1cter 6 months ago
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there is no god
kissntellen 6 months ago
...and the Like/Dislike competition is on!!
whatnamesnottakenyet 6 months ago
I bet he is doing the same in the Jail while laying on his stomach...
c1cter 6 months ago
I think that this video is a recording.
I was hoping to see a live seminar.
If this seminar is only on the web, then do you need a monitor to view the seminar?
UniBrowser 6 months ago
also homeschooling is better for everybody. Abe Lilcolm was homeschooled
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
But we should also be homeschooling the children. Some of the greatest people in history were homeschooled. How about Abe Lilcon?
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
Also there has not been fact that evolution is true. This guy has been offering an award for years for anyone who has one fact! No one has proved it yet-and they'll never be able to.
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
Hey people there was an unsolved mystery about the ogo pogo!
Thank you God for leaving us evidence in spite of doubters.
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
hovind looks a little like baseball player brooks robinson.he tells the absolute truth.if we had public school teachers as intelligent as kent hovind then i would send my children to public schools,but i can't because they would be taught the unscientific farce of evolution.
slr1238 7 months ago
I think Chihuahua's where bred in Mexico in the 1600-1700's...by the Spanish wealthy...so I guess no, Noah didn't see Chihuahua's...
honestgeorgian 7 months ago 2
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Yeah, he probably only saw wolves. I think he would've enjoyed looking at the freaky little cute rat dogs.
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
Is this a comedy,seriously.
grimmnekrokvlt 7 months ago
Kent is a fascinating teacher, hope he gets out of jail real soon! Remember Daniel in the Lion's Den, Joseph imprisoned by his brothers, St Paul in prison...
MrSontaran3 8 months ago
@MrSontaran3 except for Daniel, Joseph, and Paul didn't do anything illegal.
TheFiveoIce 7 months ago
@TheFiveoIce and we all have never done anything wrong so whatever we say is more credible
ansaz14 7 months ago
@ansaz14 define "we," "wrong," and "credible."
TheFiveoIce 7 months ago
@TheFiveoIce: Doesn't change the fact that what he's saying is true. Evolution is a naturalistic farce.
ansaz14 6 months ago
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@ansaz14 show me proof.
TheFiveoIce 6 months ago
Starts to get really nuts at about 24:00
ClamCrunchy 8 months ago
This was very interesting. thx for the upload
XGailoftheblackArtX 8 months ago
WORTH THE WATCH. HE'S FUNNY! :]
Wow, not only are you wrong about science if you listen to Hovind, you are really screwed up if you think he is funny.
gregrutz 9 months ago
@gregrutz
He is funny and he has the right idea! YEA! creationism Praise God!
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
@poohbearfreak1 Which creation story, the Hindu one?
gregrutz 7 months ago
@gregrutz
no the biblical one
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
@poohbearfreak1 Why is your story better than the other religion's stories?
gregrutz 7 months ago
@gregrutz: we have scientific models that fit in it. It has a specific time span given to it. It gives details of order. should i go on?
ansaz14 7 months ago
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@ansaz14 No you don't have ''scientific'' anything. You have religion.
Scientists have discovered that the earth is Millions of years old.
gregrutz 7 months ago
@gregrutz The bible one. What's with all the faulty generalisations
ansaz14 7 months ago
@ansaz14 oh evolution is so much better. Nothing produced something and a single cell organism produced the entire range of genetic information in the biosphere without degeneration that is the product of mutation. By the way which faulty Generalization can you point out.
ansaz14 6 months ago
@gregrutz The Christian one. He goes to great pains to point that out. That way we avoid equivocation errors
ansaz14 4 months ago
@ansaz14 Why not the Navajo Creation Story? There is just as much proof of it as the christian story.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz unlike the Navajo Creator the Christian one sent his son and as such even empiricists like John Locke can be christians. There was something that could be seen and touched from him
ansaz14 4 months ago
@ansaz14 Oh you are right, the Christian creator sent his son [god#2] to earth and we killed him so god #1 was so happy he let us go to heaven but later flooded the earth and killed everyone.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz are you familiar with chronological order? By the way only humans can be Christian.And the trinity does not present three Gods; which is why Christianity is a monotheisitc religion; A tri-person being os the one God
ansaz14 1 month ago
@ansaz14 ''familiar with chronological order? Yes. The oldest layers are on the bottom.
The fossils are layered like this:
In the bottom layer of rock are shell fossils,
above that is a layer with shells and fish fossils,
above that is a layer with shells, fish and amphibians fossils,
above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian and reptile fossils,
above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian, reptile fossils
and dinosaur fossils. What was your point?
gregrutz 1 month ago
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH CREATIONISM AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
religion is a hell of a drug;;.
wertyty 9 months ago
So apparently there was "warterr" up there. We already have about a ton of atmosphere on our heads. What would be the consequences of having a "biblical flood" amount of water up there as well? But lets face it, If you believe the bible as literal proof then you can just say what you want. Man lived with dinosaurs, Language came about one arvo on the tower of babel, and the animals just walked the ark on there own.
ptango101 9 months ago
@ptango101 and appeal to ridicule is a valid logical tool. There is a feasibility study for Noah's ark if you are interested. btw
ansaz14 7 months ago
@ansaz14 I don't think it's feasible at all to propose that at a point in relatively recent history two of every animal boarded the ark to preserve all that there is today. There were no fatalities and there was plenty of room for all their food, medicinal and social needs. That this floating mammoth zoo was cared for by 8 people with no prior experience and or knowledge of most of the animals on the ark. This is a story and has nothing to do with reality.
ptango101 7 months ago
@ptango101: Well the feasibility study demonstrates otherwise. If everything was obvious we would have no needs for such studies would we? it's on creation.com the contributors on the sites have at least a masters in the relevant fields that they contribute in.
ansaz14 6 months ago
@ansaz14 What about the genetic issues? How do you go from a pair of some generic kind to the millions of diverse species we have today? Some estimates put the the rate of change on the genetic level at 1 every 2 days. This is some sort of weird super evolution to get to this stage in 4000 years.
There is a difference between a feasibility study and grasping at straws and making excuses. Go pick eight people right now, put them in charge of 800 different animals in a football stadium.
ptango101 6 months ago
@ptango101 : at the end of the day founders effect and natural selection ensure dogs produce dogs, men produce men. Inseminate a chimp with human sperm and (2% difference) lets see the product. You would want to explore at what percentage change result in mutation becoming relentlessly fatal.
ansaz14 4 months ago
@ansaz14 Actually natural selection allows for slight change. The offspring is never exactly the same as the parent. The further removed sequential offspring get the for different they are. Dog 5670 is not the same as dog 402. Add in some natural barriers and you get things like ring species happening and the fist steps of observable speciation. Google "ring species" before you comment. When is a "kind" no longer part of a "kind" in the creationist hand book?
ptango101 4 months ago
@ansaz14 Yes dogs produce dogs, apes produce apes, that is why humans are still apes, still mammals, still tetrapods, still cordates.
Creatards don't understand evolution and are always trying to breed a horse and a donkey to prove something. Humans and chimps could interbreed when they were the same animal 10 million years ago, they split apart enough that they can't breed, evoluton of new species.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@ptango101 Noah was 600 hundred years when he built the ark, must have been pretty smart, could have learned from old people who lived long too, Remebmber they only took in land animals, and its amazing how small babies are, I know we see movies and pictures of large animals going into ark, but its common sense to take aboard babies cause they are easier to manage, dont forget climate was different,
God didnt say go into ark, He said come into ark.,
jurnagin 6 months ago
@jurnagin You have to use special pleading to make this look good. What about the multitude of problems and questions that are raised when this myth is proposed as a historical event?
ptango101 6 months ago
@ptango101 I dont understand question?
great pyramids were built but whres the historical records?
people say that today so much of our historyis on computers that a reat deal of info would be lost cause hardives only last a few years, some states are even considering not requiring schools to teach handwriting,
give example of problems?
jurnagin 6 months ago
@jurnagin We don't have any evidence of the ark and the flood. If you try to insert it into history you fail because it makes no sense. Repunzel and Humpty Dumpty are stories as well. Is that good enough to make them fact.
ptango101 6 months ago
@ptango101 wood rots, and they probably used it to build things and for firewood. Some people say they have it in Turkey, but I dont believe that,
Geologist say theres no evidence for flood, but they are atheists Their ageda is to mislead people, and when they are questioned about Ark they refer you to scientist in another field,
but about 70% of world is covered in water today, where did it come from? (canopy theory),
jurnagin 6 months ago
@jurnagin Scientists certainly do not try and mislead people. Science offers us the best explanations possible based on accumulated evidence. If new evidence which contradicts the old then the theories are revised. A theory such as evolution is so well supported by millions of pieces of evidence and has not been debunked for 150 years by any creationist arguments. Canopy theory is also widely discredited.
CJandthesoup 6 months ago
@CJandthesoup I agree with you, but scientist cant just drop bad theories without replacing them cause the public will want anwsers,
There's no way to prove canopy theroy using science, remember Saturn has rings, did they always look the same? were there more rings? we may never know,
If we had photo of earth that showed canopy of water then that will be evidence but most likely theres not a photo anywhere showing how earth looked 5 thousand years ago from orbit.
jurnagin 6 months ago
@ptango101 : and we have evidence for the ice age?
ansaz14 4 months ago
@ansaz14 The ice age has nothing to do with the flood. And it is misleading to say "the" ice age it was "an" ice age. a part of a larger cycle.
ptango101 4 months ago
@ptango101 : discounting the fact that we claim that he was being aided by a being powerful enough to create the world in 6 days?
ansaz14 4 months ago
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@ansaz14 "he was being aided by a being powerful enough to create the world" ??? this is known as the fallacious argument from special pleading. You cannot even prove your particular god exists let alone what he is capable of and how he feels about things. Spider man has a set of skills as well. We special plead when we say who would win between him and batman. Just as much credibility.
ptango101 4 months ago
@jurnagin Just stop and think about how many animals there are on earth, there are thousands if not millions we have not discovered. You then have to double that number to accept the story of Noah. How can you rationally believe that an ark of that size could be built thousands of years ago as well as the ability to round up animals from the entire globe.
CJandthesoup 6 months ago
@CJandthesoup Of course we havent discovered today,
those people were not dumb, If God told Noah to build something then he was pretty smart, and people lived long time, many people were smart, The Chiness has records of very large boats, remember the Ark was just a barge, could of had hole in middle with walls to circulate air and add flexibility and rounding up animals is very simple if you had years to do it, jut go to a zoo and grab the babies .
jurnagin 6 months ago
Noah probably had plenty of friends and assciates who could of helped in raising exotic animals to one day take their babies on Ark, you can have thousands of cages in a ark that fits 2 of every kind of land animals we see today easily, babies, babies,babies,babies, duh, and he dint bring abord incects or fish,thats over 90% of our animals today.
jurnagin 6 months ago
@jurnagin In the video he says that Noah needed to only bring aboard the different 'kinds' of animals. If he only brought the 'horse kind', then WHERE did zebra's come from? Did God just say, 'oh wait, i'm going to make some zebras, some lynx's, various types of bears etc' way after he 'created' all the animals on the earth and then killed loads of them all off?
It is one thing to worship a God, but to have faith and to 'love' an invisible being who systematically wipes out huge populations
CJandthesoup 6 months ago
Respond to this video... ...is disgusting. How can you possibly accept a God who willingly slaughters babies, children, women and men? How can you accept a God that sets followers challenges where children are killed and women are raped?
Read the works of some of the greatest human minds for a clue about the beautifully intricate universe that we live in, not a book that was written by goatherds and repeatedly altered and changed over 900 years.
CJandthesoup 6 months ago
@CJandthesoup Easy, the same way you accept George Washington as a great president after what he did to the native Americans.
ansaz14 5 months ago
@CJandthesoup : the alternative is believing that billions of years ago nothing produced matter and here we are. Nothing produces nothing, something produces something.
ansaz14 5 months ago
@ansaz14 The big bang is a theory based on the way we observe the universe. Red shift clearly implies that galaxies are moving apart, and if they all moving apart we can reverse the process and see that once they were all clumped together. This is theory. When more evidence comes to light we can alter our theory and we will slowly begin to understand the universe better and better.
What made God? Enjoy your infinite regress.
CJandthesoup 5 months ago
to accept things that are true that have been proved by the overwhelming evidence (e.g. evolution). The church locked up Galileo for suggesting a sun-centred universe (essentially just a sun centred solar system), 100's of years later the church accepted it. They now accept that we are a planet in one solar system in one galaxy out of billions. The walls of the church will eventually be reduced to nothing at the hands of rational, logical, science.
CJandthesoup 5 months ago
@CJandthesoup Actually it isn't any infinite regress. Eternal existence is by definition not a product of anything. It is much easier to believe in eternal than spontaneous generation from nothingness. Harry took the pen vs the men faded from existence.
ansaz14 4 months ago
@ansaz14 Perpetual motion machines by definition produce more work or energy than they consume and can work indefinitely. This does not mean that they exist. Look up the ontological argument.
CJandthesoup 4 months ago
@CJandthesoup I have an there are valid and invalid formulations of it. It is an excercise in modal logic and as such covers all possiblities. It's like playing mine sweeper only that in this case there is only one mine
ansaz14 4 months ago
@ansaz14 The Ontological argument is an absurd argument that is widely regarded as hugely flawed. Look at Kant's criticisms. The structure of the argument let's you define things into existence, and in no way does it ever prove a Christian God. If you think it supports your faith you are severely mistaken and have not studied the argument and it's criticism's properly.
CJandthesoup 4 months ago
I don't know where the universe came from, the thought of something coming from nothing is impossible to comprehend because the human mind simply CANNOT comprehend it. We also can't comprehend the size of the universe as it is SO vast. The big bang is a theory that fits with what we know. I don't think any scientist would be 100% confident that the theory is 100% water-tight. However, it is better to be rational and alter your opinion based on mounting evidence than be stubborn and refuse...
CJandthesoup 5 months ago
@ansaz14 Have you even considered how many genetic changes need to happen to a few thousand of your vague "kinds" to reach the level of diversity today? Do the maths. You whole proposal fails on this alone. What kind gave rise to the incredibly unique animals like kangaroos and platypuses? If they all came from one boat why don't we find these animals anywhere else. These are the practical problems that need to be addressed.
ptango101 7 months ago
A) it's 2003 in the video and he's using a 1994 textbook and b) he's using an introductory highschool-entry level college science textbook. Dishonesty= DisHovinesty.
skydome29 10 months ago
@skydome29 am in college. nothing has changed. It's amazing how everything else in science that we are taught has proof and evolution we just have to take it, or we will apparently get it later on. Masters haven't made things any clearer or more obvious
ansaz14 7 months ago
@ansaz14 Evolution is actually one of the theories in science that has the MOST evidence. I Don't know what "everything else" is in science but many still require a lot more investigation than evolution. If you want something with many unknowns go look at astronomy. A good small discussion on this topic is "Randolph Nesse Dawkins interview" address your concerns.
skydome29 7 months ago
"Someone is seriously wrong" I am afraid you are Mr.Hovind,in fact your barking Darwin is correct and easily proved so,and Genesis is a myth it was always meant to be.A Scientist you are not.
trant711 10 months ago
@trant711 Here is a scientist telling you that he has a point
ansaz14 6 months ago
So; do u think it would be a New World Order if everyone on this earth came to believe and worship Jesus?
Licmycat 11 months ago
Hovind's doctorate was in "Christian Education" from the Patriot Bible University which is not accredited by any recognized accreditation agency. He has no scientific qualifications. His dissertation has no title, no TOC, outlines 16 chapters but contains only 4, has no bibliography, and is full of errors such as "geological epic" for "geological epoch", and "centrifical force" for "centrifugal force". It contains no original research, the basis on which a PhD is supposed to be awarded.
CarajilloDulce 11 months ago
@CarajilloDulce Why don't you refute his points? You are the ultimate strawman.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 The web is full of content from people who have refuted the nonsense that Hovind has come up with. What's the point of replicating this work?
CarajilloDulce 10 months ago
@CarajilloDulce There are other "people" with even greater credentials who agree with Hovind. The science community is chalk full of God-Haters who's only goal in life is to destroy the Bible. It's nice to see someone like Hovind pointing out their nonsense. Even I, as a kid, was indoctrinated with the BS the science community hands out every day. I never knew what the Bible meant with 1 Corinthians 1:19 but now I do.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 an argument from authority 0.o
EOTNVOX 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 "Even greater credentials" than whom exactly? The scientific community is likely full of people busy investigating and observing various phenomena. I doubt they waste much time hating supernatural deities that may or may not exist.
CarajilloDulce 10 months ago
@CarajilloDulce: actually there isn't. Creation models have also upgraded with increase of knowledge and creationist expertise. Creation.com. at this point in history creationists have a stronger philosophical and scientific case
ansaz14 6 months ago
@ansaz14 ""creationists have a stronger philosophical and scientific case"" lmao. According to who? other creationists? Every new discovery puts your "theory" further and further into the category of religion and not science. Nothing in creationism can be rigorously tested, retested, peer reviewed or sufficiently falsified. Creationism is a joke.
ptango101 6 months ago
@ansaz14 "Creationist Expertise"? That sounds like an oxymoron in keeping with "Creation Science" I suppose one could say that YEEC sermons are becoming more complicated, and in that complexity making less sense than the standard religious rhetoric, but they are certainly not breaking any new ground scientifically.
CarajilloDulce 6 months ago
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@YesYou123333 The web is full of content from people who have refuted the nonsense that Hovind has come up with. What's the point of replicating this work?
gregrutz 10 months ago
@CarajilloDulce still how does that make what he is saying not true?
ansaz14 6 months ago
@ansaz14 ... how does what make what Hovind is saying not true? (apart from the fact that the stuff he says is normally associated with the rear end of a bull).
CarajilloDulce 6 months ago
Wow, he never stood a chance against science. He talks a lot but never backs up anything he says with evidence. Like a used car salesman. He tried to pretend he had a PhD once you know, until he got busted.
He deserves to be in jail for his bizarre attacks on education.
Ozzyman200 11 months ago
@Ozzyman200
He offers plenty of proof. How can you listen and not get it?
poohbearfreak1 7 months ago
@poohbearfreak1
He doesn't give any. He lies a lot pretending there's some, but he never actually presents any. Watch it for yourself and point any out if you find any.
Ozzyman200 7 months ago
@Ozzyman200 evolution is not education,it was indoctrination. I remember how we broke down Lamarck's theory and demonstrated it was wrong. We never once examined the weaknesses of evolution; Some of us managed using high school knowledge to point out a few weaknesses they told us in college it would make more sense. It only got worse.
ansaz14 6 months ago
@ansaz14 So do you apply this same high school level knowledge to your theory of choice or does it get a pass. A bunch of kids sitting around after prayer group mangling the theory of evolution doesn't really mean much. You just all reinforced you deficient knowledge in the subject.
ptango101 6 months ago
@ansaz14
No, it's scientific fact.
Ok, well you claim to know more about science than the entire scientific community. Very well, let's have your evidence.
Ozzyman200 6 months ago
@Ozzyman200 Yes I am the only scientist who has made a scientific dissent from Darwinism. I am also the only scientist that believes in Jesus. I am also the only scientist that believes in God. I don't have a masters yet but I'm sure you'll find peer reviewed articles by brilliant scientists on creation.com
ansaz14 5 months ago
@ansaz14
Nope, nope, nope, nope, and nope.
Think for yourself, don't just believe.
Science works.
Ozzyman200 5 months ago
Lastly, my gripe here is with Kent Hovind. He misrepresents himself all the time..the IRS figured that out about him. He makes scientific claims that are 180 degrees out. Problem is, Hovind repeatedly gives unsuspecting people junk information about science. This misinformation misleads people into "believing" junk science. He is a compleat discredit to science. Certainly there must be a better "creation scientist" who can make the case....there is no need to resort to listening to Kent Hovind.
orangemod 1 year ago
WORTH THE WATCH. HE'S FUNNY No, it is all lies and he is NOT funny.
gregrutz 1 year ago
As for "navel"... I suppose it easily could have meant something other than the navel we are familiar with. Not necessary to nit-pick. The Bible doesn't say anything about the dinosaurs or the other millions of years of life on earth before man. Know why?...because men wrote it. These men had no idea dinosaurs existed, or the cretaceous period for that matter. If this God entity had written or divinely inspired the writing..cont--->>>
orangemod 1 year ago
cont--->>> certainly he/she/it would have at least put in a simple chapter on penicillin. This one chapter alone would have saved millions of people for doing nothing more than God telling one of his disciples to write it down and add it into the Bible. I mean, c'mon..all this stuff in the Bible and not a word about medicine that could save millions. God could have told people that water didnt possess evil spirits..on & on.
orangemod 1 year ago
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with people believing something. I m saying that it doesn't add up...not even close. Just the idea that I could live my entire life helping the less-fortunate and if I didn't believe...I would be cast into a place where I burn for eternity !!! That is torture FOREVER. Our court system doesn't hand out torture a a sentence. Mere men can tell what torture is and that it is wrong. A perfect all-knowing being would miss this !!! Cant buy it. Cheers.
orangemod 1 year ago
@orangemod There r many chapters in the Bible on how God has supplied healing for those that believe Him. If u don't believe that He is, if u don't love Him, if u insist on doing things ur own way He will let u. Even still He made the body with ability to heal itself. And gave man the intelligence to invent penicillin & other medicines.
string1248 1 year ago
God is real. If you don't believe it ask Him. If you (key word) Sincerely seek Him, He will reveal Himself to you. Mat 7:7 “Ask and you will receive. Search and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened for you.” Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” The choice is yours. Ask Jesus to save you before it's to late! I love you Jesus You live in my heart!
string1248 1 year ago
@string1248 asking, 'god are you real'' still waiting. and waiting.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz I've been a Christian, a street evangelist for 30 yrs. Never seen a person seeking God not find Him. What I have seen r many hundreds of people that seek God find Him and r born again and filled with the joy of God in just a few seconds. No brainwashing, the spirit is washed. It's impossible for God to lie. He said Seek Him & u will find Him. Rom 10:9 if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
string1248 1 year ago
"Creation Science Evangelism"????That is the trifecta of oxymorons.
ptango101 1 year ago
"Thats not part of science folks"...so let me turn to the Bible (a book of fables written by ignorant sheep-herders) for scientific facts. LOL LOL It's sad that there are still people who have been so wrong about so much for so long, yet "believe" they are right. Kent, your beliefs are circling the drain. This guy believes in the ark !?!?!? Oh my, even 5 year old's know that was a silly fable. Forget the fact that it is impossible scientifically ....just sad...how embarrassing for him.
orangemod 1 year ago
@orangemod How do u know 5 year old's know that was a silly fable? Facts don't bare this out. According to a trio of Gallup surveys more than 3/4 of Americans believe the Bible is literally the word of God or inspired by the word of God, with only 19 percent saying the Good Book is a compendium of myth and legend. I know u think all of us r wrong also ignorant. Could it b all these people know something u don't? What is supposedly impossible scientifically?
string1248 1 year ago
@string1248 A recent Gallup pole says that 82% of Americans can tell you who the winner of American Idol is...but cant tell you who won the last Nobel Prize...I rest my case.
orangemod 1 year ago
Ok, maybe a cheap shot. Christian religion has had 2,000 years to work out all the inconsistencies and come up with tangible proof....it hasn't. The easiest way to tell if the Bible fails is to simply read it. It is so full of incorrect statements and makes claims that are ridiculous to even a casual observer. Could it be true??..well, sure it could be true. But it doesn't stand up to analysis. As for "ignorant"..no, I wont pull the ignorant card on anyone. I just don't buy it. Cheers !!
orangemod 1 year ago
@string1248 and everyone in the middle east thinks Allah is the right god, does that make it true?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz I don't know that everyone in the Middle East thinks that. The glorious thing about it is that you don't have to go by what anybody thinks or says. If you go to God directly He will reveal truth to you.
string1248 1 year ago
@string1248 and how do you ''go to god directly''. Where does he live? Does he have email?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz A mocker will never see God. I'll tell u how I met God. I was an agnostic. Just me & God. I asked Him If He where real to prove it to me I wanted to know Him and that I would follow Him. I meant that with all my heart. All He said was “ try Me” I asked Him to come into my heart and save me. He wrote the truth of all that He is onto my heart. Never learned it in a book. Filled me with the most incredible joy and love. Since then I know that I know that I know what truth is. He is God!
string1248 1 year ago
@orangemod your understanding of logic and reason + intellectual snobbery shines through clearly
ansaz14 7 months ago
@ansaz14 Ans, I did, by no means, intend to be a "snob" If that is how you took it, I'm sorry you feel that way. Actually, you'll never catch me trying to appear to be some kinda "genius" I'm a very average guy just like any other. The info. I am passing on is that of the real experts... scientists. So I am not sure why I was perceived to be a snob. If you make a claim like the fable "Noah's Ark", you will have to back it up with scientific evidence/etc. cont.-->>
orangemod 7 months ago