It really amazes me to see how many people are freaked out about this. You can get the tank adapter just about anywhere yet you don't hear about disasters anywhere. It's just a sentence on a bottle that means take care and if you do screw up don't sue us. This reminds me of the Dark Ages when people were freaked out about magic and stuff!!
I would think that a much safer option would be a large tank adapter for whatever application you are refilling the tanks for. This is incredibly illegal although I'm sure lots of people do it already. Don't get caught selling that stuff for sure. Insurance gets voided if you mess up too. Just saying. I would be pretty scared of anything happening because of any leaks. You can also get refillable exchangeable tanks @ $20 for 20 lbs. That is a buck a pound. And 140% legal too.
refilling them brakes no laws. it would illegal to sell them being they are not marked as refilled tanks thats the law your thinking of. its more a labeling law then anything. however some states may have different laws on the transport of refilled tanks.
Do I need a dog to do this? What type of dog should I buy?
Actually, this is a great video! I wondered about displacement of air inside the small tank, but maybe it has a vacuum. WOuld the freezer treatment be the secret to this? Thanks again!
@AdinoEznite The freezer is used so that as gas gets in it remains cool thus meaning you can store more gas in it as cold gas takes up less volume that hot gas. There is no secret, its like putting tap water into a water bottle.
I have a question, because i airsoft i use propane as a cheaper alt. for green gas. I was wondering with my empty propane tank(Mini one) can i push down the needle and put alot of silicone oil in it then refill it? Thanks
Those little green tanks used to be 2.50. Dang! Good video. You can easily refill the green bottles. It is supposedly a federal offense to ship or transport them though. lol. (not for personal use I guess)
I tried to make one of these a couple years ago, but it won't work because there is a small check valve in the old torch nozzle, the brass part that goes into the green cylinder. How did you undo that?
@imtherightguy Hey propane guy, those fines and regulations only hold true for certified handlers. Kind of like the fines for doing work on ac systems. Because i'm certified I can be fined for illegal actions involving refrigerant. Plus half the kids on youtube cant even read so i'm sure they can beat the case in court because the word "dude" was not stated on the warning label. I do recomend gloves seriously if you attempt this. And try not to smoke.
Where can I find another regulator for my small tank that I have a regulator for big tanks but i want one for my little one because my grill broke. I need the regulator that connects to the little small tanks head. Can i find it at home depot or no
It's not illegal to refill them but you'd have to DIY as most, if not all, propane refill centers won't do it. I've done this for the past three years and have 6 bottles I use in rotation. Looks like it's time for your valve to be replaced or rebuilt. :)
when I was refilling them a few years back to blow up, I learned a few things, its only illegal to refill them if you are transporting them, its DOT that says those arent refillable. and the other thing is if you put a 90* bend in your tubing and leave the bottles upside down for an hour or two you get a lot more liquid in there. the bottles i would blow up used to be devoid of gas but I would let those bottles sit overnight and some times longer
It's not even illegal to transport them, if refilled. As long as they are not being transported for commerce. If they are for personal use, you can refill and transport all you want. Just don't sell them, or charge money or pay someone to transport them and you will not break any of the D.O.T. regulations.
tank should be weighted before and after filling, so you have an idea of how much propane is inside, as filling it more then it's supposed to be can and will be dangerous, especially in hot weather...
If the amount of propane is equal or less then the specified weight, then it should be OK...
@AKAtheA not dangerous at all, they have a pressure relief valve on them that if you over fill them when the gas inside starts to gas off in warm weather and the pressure rises to X PSI they vent a little bit,
and its only illegal in the US if you transport them after refilling, DOT is why they arent refillable
@imtherightguy you are correct, they do not have an automatic pressure relief. They do have a manual relief valve. At rest one pound of propane exerts 70 pso roughly unless agitated or heated then could excede 110 psi.I'm fairly confident those green little bottles can handle that kind of pressure considering refrigerant has the same.Take note on what the big guys do.bleed the air as you fill.he did fail to meantion why the bottle was upsidedown.so your bottle was filled with liquid not gas.
Propane boils at a really low temp like liquid nitrogen does. Well actually much higher than liquid nitrogen. Propane will "boil" just like water boils on a stove at 212, propane will boil at minus 45 degrees (-45) at this temp if you opened a valve on a propane tank its nothing but liquid with no gas. Now from zero psi at -45 to about 200 psi on a 100 degree day outside the tank will continue to gain pressure. if you freeze one and heat the other you have a pressure differential. Liquid flows
also it is equalizing pressure that is why you don't need a regulator and as long as you use a 20lb bottle with an opv valve wich is overfill prevention valve meaning the 20lb bottle was not over filled then it will not over fill the little bottle but dot states that you can not transport small bottles after being refilled
The danger is htat you can over fill a LPG tank, they should NEVER BE FILLED MORE THAN 80%. If filled over the 80% and the tank is subject to HEAT the LIQUID AND VAPOR WILL EXPAND! THE TANK HAS A SAFETY OVER PRESURE RELIEF VALVE THAT WILL VENT FLAMABLE GAS AND POSSIBY
@pwhallon when you freeze the tank the proapne will condense from gas state to liquid state. this will give the tank more room for the propane gas to enter. it will also reduce the pressure in the tank making it easier to fill up.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
opened, one can easily see a white fog flowing from said valve. REALLY BIG NO-NO. That is vapour propane. Those drips, thats liquid propane that, when exposed to tempuratures above -42 degrees centigrade, will expand to 270 times its liquid state as a gas, which means even bigger boom. Simply the fact that your running a camera is enough to go boom-boom. the sparks in the circuit boards could make it go boom-boom. Congratulations on being a dumbass.
yeah and a cell phone can cause your car to catch fire when you fill your tank. seriously, dont make statements you know nothing about, it really is dumb. there are no open sparks across a circut board and propane gas is heavier than air so there is no way any leaked propane in this video could ever ignite from a camera. so congrats to you on being a dumbass.
@dukelogan I thought the cell phone ban was because it could potentially interfere with the electronics in the petrol pump thus allowing you to pay less!
Alright. First off, if you turn a propane tank that is anything larger than the white tank used (in this case, a 21.6 litre capacity, or more commonly referred to as a 20lb-er), the force fo the liquid propane would blow out the valve...So that's a no-no. Second, there's a reason why propane refillers NEVER intentionally fill a tank beyond 80% capacity because the gasses under pressure could expand beyond the confines of the pressure cylinder....meaning BOOM. Third, when the secondary valve is
great vid! yes they are in fact refillable! Good on ya for saving the environment by reducing landfill waste, if you have any onfo on refilling the small butane/propane canisters, i would love to know, i may have to make my own adapter.
you are an idiot, you want the liquid in your small tanks because that turns into gas and then is useable! pick up a new one- you can feel the liquid inside. It's stored in liquid state to save space... duh!
you are the idiot, the only reason it is a liquid is because it is compressed. when you release the pressure it turns back into a gas, there is no way to stop that from happening. so it doesnt matter if its upside down or not
as a matter of fact i do know what im talking about! when you open the valve on the big tank it releases pressure, when the pressure goes down the liquid turns into a gas, when the gas is pressurized in the other tank it turns back into to a liquid. if you dont beleive me then go and look it up some where. i have been filling tanks for 5 years now and i think i now what im talking about
actually it does matter, the tank has to be upside down while filling because you need to transfer the liquid propane from one container to the other.
if you were truly certified then you would know that propane is a gas that turns to liquid when it was compressed and back to gas when the pressure is released, therefore it does not matter if the tank is upside down or not
I know that! but the liquid level is always on the bottom of the tank, therefore when you open the valve with it right side up only gas will come out. Uncompressed gas. it doesn't magically recompress itself... that's why propane filling stations always have the filling outlets on the bottom of the tank..duh!
@lmyhoosier you guys are both right. you more so. Where your wrong is in wasting your time. it takes longer to fill the way you do but it may be safer due to the 80% fill level max. Keep filling the way you do. You know it works, and so does anyone with common sense..
So the tank is always filled with liquid? no the liquid stays at the bottom and the top is filled with gas. if you fill the tank from the top of the big tank, then only gas will go into the small tank, and the liquid from the big tank will evaporate to compensate. But why would liquid majically form in the small tank? if its upside down, the liquid will flow down into the big one. When the tank empties, the liquid evaporates to compensate, just because its under its own presure it wont go liquid
as a matter of fact it does turn into a liquid when it is compressed. you have no idea what your talking about so dont make yourself look like a retard and just shut up
Yes it does goes to liquid, but it will not compress itself into a liquid. you need more pressure, more than it creates itself. also, during the filling proces, the big tank gets cold, because liquid turns to gas, so once it heats up to normal temperature, for that gas to go back to liquid you need to take out the heat, how are you goign to do that?
it helps but its not necesary. But when CO2 tanks are filled for paintball you know they fill them a bit, empty them so they get frost outside then fill them? because if they try to fill them warm the CO2 becomes a gas inside the botle and does not fill completly.
So yes, you should freeze it for a while before filling them. and remember to fill them with liquid, not gas, like someone else sugest
Gas cannot go back to liquid just by compression, it needs to loose energy as heat. When Prop is compressed in the plant, it gets hot, they cool it, then release the pressure and it condenses, same as an A/C. If you put gas into the Canister, it will stay gas until its super compressed or cooled. You need some super cooling to cool it back to liquid, or some extreme pressure. The propane cannot compress itself back to liquid, gas trying to be liquid is same presure and liquid trying to be gas.
i thought i told you to shut the fuck up. you have no idea what your talking about and you are making a fool out of your self for millions of people to see.
And who are you to tell me to STFU? you're the one swearing, how about you explain you theory? there is allready a 2 to 1 agaisnt you. Explain you theory of how gas compresses itself back to liquid once it has absorbed thermal energy and changed state?
is you reply goign to be 3 lines long saying "stfu you idiot/moron/(insert derrogatory here) but no explanation?
i have all ready explained it multiple time. if you where smart enough to read the past comments then you would have seen them. now shut the fuck up and suck on a propane hose.
Oh sorry sir, I was not aware of that, i should od what you say, after all you are using profanity, so you are probably right and have autorithy. KMA, deepstick, how about YOU STFU
one who noes what their talking about are not required to shut the fuck up. however, now it alls who have no idea what their talking about are indeed required to shut the fuck the up. that being said i think its time for you to go. is that mommy calling you for your nap?
You talk with such authority, yet can't even spell "knows" you know what you're talking about, but dont know how to spell it, haha
Seeing as how I have a bachelors in thermodynamics, and finishing my masters in Electrical Engineering, Workign with DOD to review a desing flaw in a sub-zero cooling unit for some Thermal laser targeting units, I might KNOW what I'm talking about.
Please look closer and adjust your glasses. $4.49 each, 3 pack $13.49. Economical to refill but if your worried about your own failure to follow safety measures and blowing yourself up, just pay $4.49 and buy a new one :)
its not illegal to transport refilled bottles. its federal law to transport ANY propane cylinder in an upright position. but its not illegal to transport them, they just have to be upright
How did he almost burn his house down? Was he smoking or something?
I think you would have a better chance of blowing something up when people try to light their bbq - doesnt lite at first then all of a sudden they get a spark BOOM.
P.S> to Glurt, thanks for posting this -my dad was asking about this very thing.
He almost burn his house down probably because of an ignition source in the garage. If your going to fill one of these tanks, do it outside. That way any leaking propane (like seen on this video 1:44 ) dissipates into the air instead of building up in your house or garage until they find a source of ignition... Eg, electrical switches, arcing A/C plugs, water heaters, or static Bob who tends to shock you in the neck.
thats actually a great idea... a bit dangerous however i almost fell off my chair at the end. Dont do this at home.. unless your wearing saftey glasses .. and a condom. ROFL! and i was going to say check the weights, but some one already did here.
Better not smoke, light matches, scrape steel against flint, or rub two sticks together while doing this...
...'tis good though, I have always avoided those little propane tanks for camp stoves on the grounds that the tanks can't be refilled at the proprane store - its a bit wasteful.
I did have one of the valves fail when using one once - the gas was leaking out the little valve on the side; got the flame to stop then let the gas vent off...
Refilling disposable propane cylinders should be done by weight. The net weight is printed on the label. Weigh the empty cylinder on a sensitive scale, then refill it. If it is overweight, vent a little of the gas until the total weight is the empty (tare) weight plus the rated net weight. If you overfill, the pressure relief valve will prevent rupture, but it may vent at an inconvenient time or place!
It really amazes me to see how many people are freaked out about this. You can get the tank adapter just about anywhere yet you don't hear about disasters anywhere. It's just a sentence on a bottle that means take care and if you do screw up don't sue us. This reminds me of the Dark Ages when people were freaked out about magic and stuff!!
TCF2148 5 days ago
have a smoke while you wait...
BrandorT 1 week ago
i really dont see ANY difference to refilling my cordless soldering iron with butane.
it leaks as i fill too.great idea,i can get all the bottles i want.
autofrite 1 week ago
I would think that a much safer option would be a large tank adapter for whatever application you are refilling the tanks for. This is incredibly illegal although I'm sure lots of people do it already. Don't get caught selling that stuff for sure. Insurance gets voided if you mess up too. Just saying. I would be pretty scared of anything happening because of any leaks. You can also get refillable exchangeable tanks @ $20 for 20 lbs. That is a buck a pound. And 140% legal too.
bioweaponsystem154 3 weeks ago
Aww, c'mon Julian! All I want is a little propane, propane...propane, propane..propane, propane, it's time to start the flame, propane, propane!
SeberHusky 2 months ago
The reason why the valve in his video is blue-green could DEFINITELY break laws. Have you been using this adapter with anhydrous ammonia?
demon5332 3 months ago
refilling them brakes no laws. it would illegal to sell them being they are not marked as refilled tanks thats the law your thinking of. its more a labeling law then anything. however some states may have different laws on the transport of refilled tanks.
ssj4goko4 3 months ago
and a condom :0 pro pain rape lmao
hey you wouldent happen to be able to sell one of the adapters would ya
usbc2 3 months ago
gloves wouldn't be a bad idea at all...frostbite hurts like a bitch...
AKAtheA 4 months ago
so if i have safety glasses and a condom i can try it at home?
jenssdewalka 4 months ago
U can buy 2 of these propane bottles @ Walmart for $5.30 a pair
akjunkie 5 months ago
Do I need a dog to do this? What type of dog should I buy?
Actually, this is a great video! I wondered about displacement of air inside the small tank, but maybe it has a vacuum. WOuld the freezer treatment be the secret to this? Thanks again!
AdinoEznite 5 months ago
@AdinoEznite The freezer is used so that as gas gets in it remains cool thus meaning you can store more gas in it as cold gas takes up less volume that hot gas. There is no secret, its like putting tap water into a water bottle.
SivanTheSimeon 4 months ago
Do I need a dog to do this? What type of dog should I buy?
AdinoEznite 5 months ago 2
@AdinoEznite Ahahahahahahahahahahah XD
SivanTheSimeon 4 months ago
@AdinoEznite and safety glasses and a condom - one for yourselfe and another for your dog
jenssdewalka 4 months ago
thats dangerous, i gurantee you some idiots have tried this and hurt themselves. i have my propane license
futura8888 7 months ago
niezłe niezłe
kubaguzik93 7 months ago
you got my thumbs up for "dont try thos at home without safety glasses and a condom" lol
traxxaslover123 7 months ago
Ok I'm 17 n refill propane tanks n know for the fact that that one has no opd n can easily be overfilled n burst
russiancaptain12 7 months ago
I cut the top off and refill them with water. Is that against the law?
anthony9thompson 8 months ago
I have a question, because i airsoft i use propane as a cheaper alt. for green gas. I was wondering with my empty propane tank(Mini one) can i push down the needle and put alot of silicone oil in it then refill it? Thanks
IamTeHe 8 months ago
Those little green tanks used to be 2.50. Dang! Good video. You can easily refill the green bottles. It is supposedly a federal offense to ship or transport them though. lol. (not for personal use I guess)
stopglobalswarming 9 months ago
I was looking for Hank Hill....
william14477 11 months ago
Bull Sh*t its available at wal mart !
MegaSohip 11 months ago
I tried to make one of these a couple years ago, but it won't work because there is a small check valve in the old torch nozzle, the brass part that goes into the green cylinder. How did you undo that?
HarleyFXS 1 year ago
@HarleyFXS remove the check valve?
krugtech 1 year ago
I know that thesé bottles freezes on refill.
daand12 1 year ago
It certainly sounds cheap but I reckon the risk of getting blown up is enough to put me off!
alanheath 1 year ago
WOW $13.49 for a 3 pack?!
A 4 pack here at Fleet Farm costs $9.99
tainterlakeisgreen 1 year ago
disclaimer was the best part of the video, imo.
therealandycook 1 year ago
you can buy a refill thingy at cabelas for 20$
sniperbait171 1 year ago
dude u tut every 2 seconds its fucking anoying
opitical 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hank Hill would kick your ass! lol .... cool.
scryerofold 1 year ago
Hank hill would kick your ass. lol
scryerofold 1 year ago 3
what is it about propane that makes me nervous? oh thats right, this shit! lol
djn00nan 1 year ago
got u guys are fucknuts.. i work for a propane company
500,000 grand AND 5 yrs in federal prison. - look on the tag that comes with the tank
besides, if you fill the tank and set it in the sun full, on a hot day it can bevel and burst. you guys are all fools
imtherightguy 1 year ago
@imtherightguy Hey propane guy, those fines and regulations only hold true for certified handlers. Kind of like the fines for doing work on ac systems. Because i'm certified I can be fined for illegal actions involving refrigerant. Plus half the kids on youtube cant even read so i'm sure they can beat the case in court because the word "dude" was not stated on the warning label. I do recomend gloves seriously if you attempt this. And try not to smoke.
powerzap69 1 year ago 2
You can buy a similar adapter on Amazon.com, just search for Mr Heater propane adapter.
Glurt 1 year ago 5
Where can I find another regulator for my small tank that I have a regulator for big tanks but i want one for my little one because my grill broke. I need the regulator that connects to the little small tanks head. Can i find it at home depot or no
ChillMood11 1 year ago
@ChillMood11 A propane company can make you a custon fitting using an 'coleman' type fitting that will connect to a standard regulator.
InTheSticks1881 1 year ago
It's not illegal to refill them but you'd have to DIY as most, if not all, propane refill centers won't do it. I've done this for the past three years and have 6 bottles I use in rotation. Looks like it's time for your valve to be replaced or rebuilt. :)
4micaman 1 year ago
just LMFAO
[b]The government[/b] doesn't want you to know that those little green propane tanks ARE in fact refillable!
fucknuggetz420 1 year ago
Hank hill will use this DIY to do it himself, cause he needs propane in smaller tanks.
firedragon117 1 year ago
I really do not like wearing condoms...crap, now I have to pay full price again!
hardhitter0421 1 year ago
when I was refilling them a few years back to blow up, I learned a few things, its only illegal to refill them if you are transporting them, its DOT that says those arent refillable. and the other thing is if you put a 90* bend in your tubing and leave the bottles upside down for an hour or two you get a lot more liquid in there. the bottles i would blow up used to be devoid of gas but I would let those bottles sit overnight and some times longer
MF11283 1 year ago
It's not even illegal to transport them, if refilled. As long as they are not being transported for commerce. If they are for personal use, you can refill and transport all you want. Just don't sell them, or charge money or pay someone to transport them and you will not break any of the D.O.T. regulations.
MrBeach 1 year ago 2
tank should be weighted before and after filling, so you have an idea of how much propane is inside, as filling it more then it's supposed to be can and will be dangerous, especially in hot weather...
If the amount of propane is equal or less then the specified weight, then it should be OK...
AKAtheA 1 year ago 2
@AKAtheA not dangerous at all, they have a pressure relief valve on them that if you over fill them when the gas inside starts to gas off in warm weather and the pressure rises to X PSI they vent a little bit,
and its only illegal in the US if you transport them after refilling, DOT is why they arent refillable
MF11283 1 year ago
@MF11283 these little cylinders do not have a pressure relief
imtherightguy 1 year ago
@imtherightguy sure about that???? cause everyone i have does, along with my mapp gas bottles
MF11283 1 year ago
@imtherightguy might wanna go check again
MF11283 1 year ago
@imtherightguy you are correct, they do not have an automatic pressure relief. They do have a manual relief valve. At rest one pound of propane exerts 70 pso roughly unless agitated or heated then could excede 110 psi.I'm fairly confident those green little bottles can handle that kind of pressure considering refrigerant has the same.Take note on what the big guys do.bleed the air as you fill.he did fail to meantion why the bottle was upsidedown.so your bottle was filled with liquid not gas.
powerzap69 1 year ago
yur a dumb ass. go ahead and blow yurself up to save some damn money
MrBushcraft81 1 year ago
@MrBushcraft81 its no more dangerous then screwing a lantern or torch onto one of those bottles
MF11283 1 year ago
Propane boils at a really low temp like liquid nitrogen does. Well actually much higher than liquid nitrogen. Propane will "boil" just like water boils on a stove at 212, propane will boil at minus 45 degrees (-45) at this temp if you opened a valve on a propane tank its nothing but liquid with no gas. Now from zero psi at -45 to about 200 psi on a 100 degree day outside the tank will continue to gain pressure. if you freeze one and heat the other you have a pressure differential. Liquid flows
definca 2 years ago
also it is equalizing pressure that is why you don't need a regulator and as long as you use a 20lb bottle with an opv valve wich is overfill prevention valve meaning the 20lb bottle was not over filled then it will not over fill the little bottle but dot states that you can not transport small bottles after being refilled
soggieshorts1 2 years ago
avalable in haborfraight about six bucks the adaptor that is
soggieshorts1 2 years ago 2
I will try to finish this soon as it is important
JUST DON'T DO MONKY SEE MONKY DO unles you truly know what safety isues there are.
OESFIREENGINE 2 years ago
The danger is htat you can over fill a LPG tank, they should NEVER BE FILLED MORE THAN 80%. If filled over the 80% and the tank is subject to HEAT the LIQUID AND VAPOR WILL EXPAND! THE TANK HAS A SAFETY OVER PRESURE RELIEF VALVE THAT WILL VENT FLAMABLE GAS AND POSSIBY
OESFIREENGINE 2 years ago
Why do you put the small tanks in the freezer?
pwhallon 2 years ago
I don't see why as well.
Bammer2001 2 years ago
@pwhallon when you freeze the tank the proapne will condense from gas state to liquid state. this will give the tank more room for the propane gas to enter. it will also reduce the pressure in the tank making it easier to fill up.
DerivativeXY 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
opened, one can easily see a white fog flowing from said valve. REALLY BIG NO-NO. That is vapour propane. Those drips, thats liquid propane that, when exposed to tempuratures above -42 degrees centigrade, will expand to 270 times its liquid state as a gas, which means even bigger boom. Simply the fact that your running a camera is enough to go boom-boom. the sparks in the circuit boards could make it go boom-boom. Congratulations on being a dumbass.
lilsatan62 2 years ago
yeah and a cell phone can cause your car to catch fire when you fill your tank. seriously, dont make statements you know nothing about, it really is dumb. there are no open sparks across a circut board and propane gas is heavier than air so there is no way any leaked propane in this video could ever ignite from a camera. so congrats to you on being a dumbass.
dukelogan 2 years ago 11
@dukelogan I thought the cell phone ban was because it could potentially interfere with the electronics in the petrol pump thus allowing you to pay less!
alanheath 1 year ago
That is called a blevy.
platinum243125 2 years ago
Alright. First off, if you turn a propane tank that is anything larger than the white tank used (in this case, a 21.6 litre capacity, or more commonly referred to as a 20lb-er), the force fo the liquid propane would blow out the valve...So that's a no-no. Second, there's a reason why propane refillers NEVER intentionally fill a tank beyond 80% capacity because the gasses under pressure could expand beyond the confines of the pressure cylinder....meaning BOOM. Third, when the secondary valve is
lilsatan62 2 years ago
govt doesnt want ordinary people doing it because its dangerous
netpolice151 2 years ago
great vid!
how do you know the small tank is not over filled? as this can be dangerous.
heavenscape 2 years ago
yea needs a regulator and recommended pressure for the mini bottle
bornfromground 2 years ago
Looks dangerous..... 5 Stars!!!
Uber1nsane 2 years ago
safty glasses and a condom lol
MacsCanfly 2 years ago 35
"Remember kids this is dangerous and probably illegal so don't try this at home"
LMAO!!!
waterfrontdude 2 years ago
great vid! yes they are in fact refillable! Good on ya for saving the environment by reducing landfill waste, if you have any onfo on refilling the small butane/propane canisters, i would love to know, i may have to make my own adapter.
nzoomed 2 years ago
just order one from cabelas
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
im talking about filling the jetboil or kovea style canisters
nzoomed 2 years ago
dont they sell refillers like that at harborfreight?
GrandpaTD 2 years ago
"Unless you're wearing safety glasses, and a condom!" lol
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
When I fill my propane 1 lb tank i always feel the liquid propane at the bottom of the tank.
paintballers 2 years ago
those little propane tanks cost less than 3 bucks where i live
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
true, but its not the liquid you want, its the gas. i do this all the time and never turn it upside down
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
you are an idiot, you want the liquid in your small tanks because that turns into gas and then is useable! pick up a new one- you can feel the liquid inside. It's stored in liquid state to save space... duh!
krankiev 2 years ago
you are the idiot, the only reason it is a liquid is because it is compressed. when you release the pressure it turns back into a gas, there is no way to stop that from happening. so it doesnt matter if its upside down or not
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
nope, you are because if the liquid doesn't go into your small tank you won't have shit for storage. Quit pretending that you know shit.
krankiev 2 years ago
as a matter of fact i do know what im talking about! when you open the valve on the big tank it releases pressure, when the pressure goes down the liquid turns into a gas, when the gas is pressurized in the other tank it turns back into to a liquid. if you dont beleive me then go and look it up some where. i have been filling tanks for 5 years now and i think i now what im talking about
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
actually it does matter, the tank has to be upside down while filling because you need to transfer the liquid propane from one container to the other.
coolbluelights 2 years ago
no it doesnt,
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
Yes it does. I've been certified to fill propane tanks since 2004. I think I know what I'm talking about.
coolbluelights 2 years ago
if you were truly certified then you would know that propane is a gas that turns to liquid when it was compressed and back to gas when the pressure is released, therefore it does not matter if the tank is upside down or not
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
I know that! but the liquid level is always on the bottom of the tank, therefore when you open the valve with it right side up only gas will come out. Uncompressed gas. it doesn't magically recompress itself... that's why propane filling stations always have the filling outlets on the bottom of the tank..duh!
coolbluelights 2 years ago
im not going to sit here and argue with some idiot who doesnt know what hes talking about.
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
the gas doesn't magically gain pressure and turn into a liquid in the other tank. the only way you could make it do that is to re-compress it...
krankiev 2 years ago
you took the words right out of my mouth :D
coolbluelights 2 years ago
at least im not one here thinking i know everything telling people that that do know what their talking about that their wrong
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
ah well skip it, no use arguing. peace.
coolbluelights 2 years ago
@lmyhoosier you guys are both right. you more so. Where your wrong is in wasting your time. it takes longer to fill the way you do but it may be safer due to the 80% fill level max. Keep filling the way you do. You know it works, and so does anyone with common sense..
powerzap69 1 year ago
So the tank is always filled with liquid? no the liquid stays at the bottom and the top is filled with gas. if you fill the tank from the top of the big tank, then only gas will go into the small tank, and the liquid from the big tank will evaporate to compensate. But why would liquid majically form in the small tank? if its upside down, the liquid will flow down into the big one. When the tank empties, the liquid evaporates to compensate, just because its under its own presure it wont go liquid
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
as a matter of fact it does turn into a liquid when it is compressed. you have no idea what your talking about so dont make yourself look like a retard and just shut up
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
Yes it does goes to liquid, but it will not compress itself into a liquid. you need more pressure, more than it creates itself. also, during the filling proces, the big tank gets cold, because liquid turns to gas, so once it heats up to normal temperature, for that gas to go back to liquid you need to take out the heat, how are you goign to do that?
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
How am i gonna do that? by putting the little tank in the freezer for a hour then refilling with propane from the big tank
paintballers 2 years ago
it helps but its not necesary. But when CO2 tanks are filled for paintball you know they fill them a bit, empty them so they get frost outside then fill them? because if they try to fill them warm the CO2 becomes a gas inside the botle and does not fill completly.
So yes, you should freeze it for a while before filling them. and remember to fill them with liquid, not gas, like someone else sugest
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
Yes I knew you were going to say that before i posted this comment.
paintballers 2 years ago
Gas cannot go back to liquid just by compression, it needs to loose energy as heat. When Prop is compressed in the plant, it gets hot, they cool it, then release the pressure and it condenses, same as an A/C. If you put gas into the Canister, it will stay gas until its super compressed or cooled. You need some super cooling to cool it back to liquid, or some extreme pressure. The propane cannot compress itself back to liquid, gas trying to be liquid is same presure and liquid trying to be gas.
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
i thought i told you to shut the fuck up. you have no idea what your talking about and you are making a fool out of your self for millions of people to see.
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
And who are you to tell me to STFU? you're the one swearing, how about you explain you theory? there is allready a 2 to 1 agaisnt you. Explain you theory of how gas compresses itself back to liquid once it has absorbed thermal energy and changed state?
is you reply goign to be 3 lines long saying "stfu you idiot/moron/(insert derrogatory here) but no explanation?
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
i have all ready explained it multiple time. if you where smart enough to read the past comments then you would have seen them. now shut the fuck up and suck on a propane hose.
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
Oh sorry sir, I was not aware of that, i should od what you say, after all you are using profanity, so you are probably right and have autorithy. KMA, deepstick, how about YOU STFU
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago 2
one who noes what their talking about are not required to shut the fuck up. however, now it alls who have no idea what their talking about are indeed required to shut the fuck the up. that being said i think its time for you to go. is that mommy calling you for your nap?
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
You talk with such authority, yet can't even spell "knows" you know what you're talking about, but dont know how to spell it, haha
Seeing as how I have a bachelors in thermodynamics, and finishing my masters in Electrical Engineering, Workign with DOD to review a desing flaw in a sub-zero cooling unit for some Thermal laser targeting units, I might KNOW what I'm talking about.
I see how the other guy gave up on you, so have I
JoelThedude4u 2 years ago
It happens when the little tank is cold from the freezer at 0:35 when he says to chill them
paintballers 2 years ago
This will not work with the tanks with the OPD Valve. No fuel will flow due to the float mechanism
9020powrmax 2 years ago
Well my adapter works with OPD Valve and i get liquid into my tank.
paintballers 2 years ago
I just refilled a couple of small cylinders yesterday from my inverted, OPD-equipped 20-lb propane tank, just like in this video. Worked fine.
upajos 2 years ago
I'll try it and see if it works Thanks for the info
9020powrmax 2 years ago
the setup this guy has wont work, just because he has his tank upside down. it is supposed to be upright
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
Please look closer and adjust your glasses. $4.49 each, 3 pack $13.49. Economical to refill but if your worried about your own failure to follow safety measures and blowing yourself up, just pay $4.49 and buy a new one :)
scrumpyv 2 years ago
lol safety glases an a condom
davidworld2k6 2 years ago
look closely, the add says 4.49 for 3 of them
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
u can buy the refill adapter at cabelas, it take exactly 1 minute to refill, and it is only illegal to transport the refilled bottles
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
its not illegal to transport refilled bottles. its federal law to transport ANY propane cylinder in an upright position. but its not illegal to transport them, they just have to be upright
tmoney199969 2 years ago
it is illegal to transport 1lb propane bottles that have been refilled, it says so on the package of the adapter
lmyhoosier 2 years ago
How are they gonna know it's been refilled? Screw the cops!
coolbluelights 2 years ago
How did he almost burn his house down? Was he smoking or something?
I think you would have a better chance of blowing something up when people try to light their bbq - doesnt lite at first then all of a sudden they get a spark BOOM.
P.S> to Glurt, thanks for posting this -my dad was asking about this very thing.
smazz104 3 years ago
He almost burn his house down probably because of an ignition source in the garage. If your going to fill one of these tanks, do it outside. That way any leaking propane (like seen on this video 1:44 ) dissipates into the air instead of building up in your house or garage until they find a source of ignition... Eg, electrical switches, arcing A/C plugs, water heaters, or static Bob who tends to shock you in the neck.
JustMakingComments 2 years ago
wholy S*%t, I didnt see that dripping out at 1:44 - good eye.
smazz104 2 years ago
how could they possibly tell its been refilled?
supportglobalwarming 3 years ago
U can feel it because it is liquid gas so just shake it and you will realize how full it is
walkandlookup 3 years ago
you can buy your little adapter thingy at Cabelas.
supportglobalwarming 3 years ago
thats actually a great idea... a bit dangerous however i almost fell off my chair at the end. Dont do this at home.. unless your wearing saftey glasses .. and a condom. ROFL! and i was going to say check the weights, but some one already did here.
Marshall7302 3 years ago
And how would anyone know it had been refilled?
tonytiger75 3 years ago
One way is to reckord the weight of the brand new canister and compare this figure to the refilled, it should be close
walkandlookup 3 years ago
You could also weigh a full factory filled mini tank, and then go by that for a measurement. That is how they fill co2 tanks for paintball guns.
rancherodave 3 years ago
u can get (SOME) refilled my dads work does that stuff but nutitn leaks lol
8tyman8 3 years ago
Ah yes....but only if they catch you!
Glurt 3 years ago
I noticed your large tank is not an OPD valve. Will this work with OPD? any modifications needed?
mickael75 3 years ago
Better not smoke, light matches, scrape steel against flint, or rub two sticks together while doing this...
...'tis good though, I have always avoided those little propane tanks for camp stoves on the grounds that the tanks can't be refilled at the proprane store - its a bit wasteful.
I did have one of the valves fail when using one once - the gas was leaking out the little valve on the side; got the flame to stop then let the gas vent off...
modustollen 3 years ago
You just give the can a shake and feel how much liquid is inside - or how heavy it gets.
Glurt 3 years ago
how do you know when to stop filling?
drboose 3 years ago
Refilling disposable propane cylinders should be done by weight. The net weight is printed on the label. Weigh the empty cylinder on a sensitive scale, then refill it. If it is overweight, vent a little of the gas until the total weight is the empty (tare) weight plus the rated net weight. If you overfill, the pressure relief valve will prevent rupture, but it may vent at an inconvenient time or place!
upajos 2 years ago