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  • did he really say "delta ... (somethings, i think the protocols after stopping) ... let's not goof it up now"

    way to spoil the mood!

  • MACH FREAKING 25.1!!!!!!!

  • @ROTFLOLALMFAO bloody incredible hey?>

  • HOW CAN YOU BE THAT CALM?!

  • Great video besides the text in the middle of the screen.

  • Whats with the "spectacular" in monotone??! It shld be "THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!!"

  • @PangulongMarcos speaking of respect i wish you could read back on your comments and messages to me, and start asking yourself, am i respectable? you have some good points about our country but you act in a way that drives away people from you, instead of convincing filipinos?

    this video from Tim733733 started just as a video. now here you come in acts of personal vengeance, turning an informative video into a cussing fest.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Filipinos seem to love to boast being the best in something. Best workers, best actors, best artists, best singers, best this and that. We even ride on Manny Pacquiao, Charice Pempengco, Arnel Pineda or any other famous Filipino as the best, using it as a springboard to boast that Filipinos are the best. But it turns out that we are only best in boasting. And the world laughs.

  • "The Seat of my pants knows where i'm at"

    WTF one of the best lines.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Are you still dreaming Filipinos can fly into space? Hangin lang yan sa ulo tol..BOBO kasi mga pinoy like you that's why it's IMPOSSIBLE.

  • @PangulongMarcos hoy parang kilala ko ang ugali mo, wow nagiging forum mod pala ang mga heretikong katulad mo. kapwa mo pinoy dinidemotivate mo, paaano mo maaasam na tumino ang pinoy? kayabang yabang mo parang ikaw lkang matalino. gago kung matalino ka wag mo gamitin ang internet, mag apply ka sa university. testingan ko kaya talino mo? lol aber sige ano chief rocket designer ng russia?

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Filipino IQ: only 86. How could they build space shuttle like those of NASA? BOBONG PINOY NANANAGINIP NG GISING.

  • @PangulongMarcos kung napaka talino mo aber bakit napakakonii nang nanonood ng mga videos mo?

    malamang may pagkanarcisistic ng ugali mo, ikaw lang nanonod ng videos mo

    then again HINDI mo pa naisasagot ang tanung ko: sino ang chief rocket designer ng soviet russia?

    dahil hindi mo pa nasasagot iyan,at sa marahas na generalization mo sa kapwa mo, mas lalo mo lang pinamumukha ang IKAW ang Pilipinon 86 ang IQ

  • @PangulongMarcos

    magaling ka mang asar. pangaasar e gawain ng mababang IQ, so sino ang dinedescribe mo?

    at sa nakikito ko sa iyo ginoo, naniniwala ka sa freedom of speech, KUNG SASANG-AYON sa iyong paniniwala ang sasabihin.

    sa loob siguro ng kokote mo, iniicp mo na walang karapatang magsalita ang mga hindi aayon sa iyong mga adhikain.

    basahin mo mga tinatype mo. masasabi mo ba na isa kang magandang ehemplo para sa pagbabago ng Pinas?

    asta mo asal tondo na eh. ugaling kalye pa.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    The problem with triumphalism is that it is only boasting for boasting’s sake. It does not cure the ills and problems of the country; the massive poverty, OFWs being separated from their families and being forced to work abroad, the bad economic situation at home and all that. In fact, triumphalist boasting aids in denial of our problems and provides false relief from them, an escape from reality. Suddenly, the “benign national trait” becomes a deadly flaw.

  • @PangulongMarcos and you know who you best described with with your term "triumphalism"?

    YOU

    yes YOU are so boastful that you are better than the rest of the filipino race FAILING to notice and even utterly DISRESPECTING they very FEW who are in agreement to some of your points!

    natawag mo na akong bobo now, isnt that baseless by now? now removing things achieved as source of pride and motivation for our countrymen is the wrong way around. the best is to catalyze our people.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    I really resent it when Filipinos stare too much, whether at me or at a black tourist walking in the streets. Obviously, they know nothing about the 3-Second Rule, meaning if you stare at a person for 3 or more seconds, you’re being impolite to that person. Worse, they continue staring at you even after you caught them. To me not only is it rude, it’s a provocation. Most of the time, Pinoys will keep staring a black guy passing by and I’ll catch them laughing and ridiculing him.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Efren Penaflorida was not recognized locally. He was voted into that CNN Hero of the Year award, thanks to numerous flying voters. But still, CNN was the one who thought of the award. Why didn’t anyone locally give an equally prestigious recognition for his efforts?

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Charice Pempengco was recognized on the Ellen DeGeneres show, in America. If she sang on a local show before Ellen, would she get the same level of fame?

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Arnel Pineda, before he joined Journey… who was he? We know now that he loved singing Carpenter and Streisand (stuff that local gays like to sing!) when younger. But before this, did we know it? We only knew him when he already joined Journey.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Manny Pacquiao, when he was a boxer in our local rings, wasn’t given notice at all. It was when he beat a foreign opponent that he became our country’s superstar. And note that his coach, Freddie Roach, is an American, not Filipino. Manny thrives on an American’s advice, not a Filipino’s.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    In other words, our idols, sumikat sila abroad. Di sila sumikat dito. They looked for greener pastures. Like our OFWs.

    And when they become well-known, Filipino fans begin to appreciate them and idolize them. They boast of these stars to other countries. The irony is, the other countries may already know.

  • @PangulongMarcos

    "And when they become well-known, Filipino fans begin to appreciate them and idolize them."

    i notice that a lot as well. when it comes to foreign recognition of filipino talent, ONLY THEN will filipinos will start to take notice. then on goes the bragging... very typical of filipinos.

    and the manners of filipinos when it comes to staring.... tsk, tsk... just makes you wanna punch their faces

  • @FiIipinoUnggoy now i notice a subtle change in you bad attitude. i agree to not all of your points. but again, its the mindset you need to change leave the dreams be, change how you want the country to attain them kasi pards ang pangit ng aproach mo eh. maguumpisa ka sa pangaasar na personalan. manghahabol ka pa sa ibang video. respetuhin mo ung nag post ng video na ito.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    and what is it that you not agree to? the negativity of my criticisms, right? LOL.. listen, if you think my approach is "pangit", then thats your opinion; however, you and many other pinoy simpletons out there need to learn that positivity isn't always going to be the forte. get it?

    continued ----->

  • @FiIipinoUnggoy <----- my comment was for PangulongMarcos. sorry.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    <----- previous

    take the faces of Adam Carolla or even the great OPM icon, Freddie Aguilar, for example... they pointed out and criticised the negative aspects of Filipinos. now, are you gonna accept that or just whine & bitch like many other butthurt pinoys? seems like you're part of the latter... lolz

  • @FiIipinoUnggoy

    you're an enlightened one. cheers!

  • @nakazatoGTR

    Some years ago, a friend of mine when he took a taxi did the customary conversation with the driver. The latter lapped on with the usual statement that life is hard, etc. My friend asked why life is hard for the driver. The reply was that the driver has two women, and thus a lot of children to feed from both. My friend then answered, “well it’s your fault that life is hard,” and it went back to the “life is what you make it” wisdom.

  • @nakazatoGTR

    This friend of mine also shares with me a certain view: it is hard to change our view that the Filipino is a stupid creature. Like the driver in the taxi, Filipinos just keep on doing the stupidest things without even being concerned whether what they do is right or wrong. Rather, they defend everything they do as right.

  • @PangulongMarcos well at least i agre to some parts of the statement but do you consider yourself a Filipino? "Filipino is a stupid creature." is such a harsh description, that does include yourself.

    as to being concerned in doing right things, are you making the change you want the right way?

    i believe not.you are acting like a street gangster, foul and disrespectful lacking any values in living.all you have done is cluck loud, yet you are not smart enough to recommend what solution will help.

  • @PangulongMarcos and when i mean catalyze the nation to do better its not by means of removing things and forgetting achievements but in a similar way JFK spurred the US nation to go to the moon(which is the reverse of what obama did) by "doing the other thing because it was hard" and asked people to "ask what you can do for our country"

    and also name-calling people(bobo, ignorante etc) is not constructive in professional terms. in fact never constructive at all

  • @nakazatoGTR

    They elect a gambler, drunk and womanizer to the highest office in the country; it’s right daw. They suspect their spouse is cheating and cheat the same; it’s right daw. They steal money from an employer because they were denied a raise; it’s right daw. A lady is cheated by her husband, and gets treated like trash, is even battered, but she sticks to her husband despite his obvious harem of women, just to keep the family image intact; it’s right daw.

  • @PangulongMarcos so far sir, with your foul mouthed demanor, unjust generalization, YOU have become the ultimate proof of your condescending description of the filipino animal.

    its not about being intelligent but having the right mindset, and then again, not so intelligent people had made it in the world but some intelligent but uncouth personalities such as you, are wasted due to their lack of national respect.

    tell me what else are you doing to change the country? making hallucinatory vids?

  • because of that text, i'm not going to visit the damn site...

  • is that the plasma trail behind the shuttle in those views thru the aft windows?

  • i thought my tummy was rumbling but it was them talking wow weird feeling much

  • Joe Engle has flown the shuttle through reentry and landing in STS-2. He is the only one to have done that.

  • 19,000 mph is breath taking..

  • That'd be a Hell of a ride.

  • great video, but indeed that text in the middle really destroys it

  • @SuburbAllied Had to be done as there's a lot of videos from NASASpaceflight's website which have been leeched and uploaded by youtubers. The full length videos on NASASpaceflight's L2 area are without that text.

  • @Tim733733 Aren't all works of art made by a government employee during the course of their duty (e.g. by a NASA astronaut during a spaceflight) public domain, and thus required by law to be freely available in their original form?

  • @Tim733733 Who cares if they are leeched and uploaded? They are public domain.

  • @Tim733733 Yeah but in the middle, I mean, what a dick move.

  • mach 25.1 = 19,106.12 MPH . 

  • @twistymcslide2 chuck norris can do that on his tricycle :)

  • @JerryFromNewJersey norris has balls , hed do it on a fixed wheel and land in san francisco . unfortunately when he leaves , he'll be riding the " IT " from southpark .

  • "what a light show up the ass"? 0:12

  • @sammysf415 "What a light show out the aft". Though I would probably say your version. :D

  • @sammysf415 What a light show "out of the aft" ;-) Though ironically, the aft is Endeavour's ass :-)

  • @Tim733733 HEHE CHICKEN! Im going to eat you

  • @Tim733733, now does the shuttle start to come in and rotate sideways for a while as it enters the atmosphere. then after sometime rotate back up to its normal position before landing?

  • @TKgeniusHELLTX You're referring to the roll reversals. When you're in that long drawn-out descent during reentry, and the air gets denser, the lift force on the wings gets pretty strong and this can throw off their trajectory and to correct that, they roll left and right to decrease the lift and stay on the proper trajectory. The roll reversals also help bleed off some speed more safely.

  • @VIR092 cool. didn't that. thanks :)]

  • It looks like it stops just as it touches down...

  • @Man2Break That's just bad editing of the video ;-)

  • Okay can someone explain to me why the space shuttle and previous space craft have to have heat sheilds? Yet Burt Rutans space ship did not?

  • @DorkVader26

    Space ship 1 just did a suborbital flight with nowhere near the needed speed for orbit. The very high speeds of "real" orbiting spacecraft are the reason why they need a heatshield for reentry. SS1 is more comparable to the X15 rocket plane which also had no real heatshield.

  • @DorkVader26 The orbiter has a much higher velocity to dissipate as frictional heating.  Rutan's craft is sub-orbital, it flys a parabolic path more or less straight up and then back down. It's velocity is a fraction of that of the shuttle orbiter.

  • @Stepclimb t/y I never really thought about that. If there was a way to slow the craft down during orbital flight then it would be possible to do a re-entry w/o heat shields?

  • @Stepclimb t/y I never really thought about that. If there was a way to slow the craft down during orbital flight then it would be possible to do a re-entry w/o heat shields? I realize you'd have to bring up gas and burn the engines in the opposite direction it is traveling but in theory the slower speed would eliminate the need for the heat shield?

  • @DorkVader26 But the thing is that there would be a TON of fuel needed to even slow down to sufficient speeds.

  • "You're the man." I should say so.

  • for going mach 25 it sure takes a long time for re-entry

  • mach 25.1 yeehaaaaaaaaaaaw

  • 25 kilometers per second. 

  • How does the shuttle provide the vast amount of electrical power during the long missions, is it all batteries? Is there any kind of recharging capabilities providing by the rocket engines?

  • @1compaqedr8

    The power is provided by three APUs (auxiliary power unit), which is for all practical purposes basic fuel cells, turning liquid hydrogen into electric power.

  • @1compaqedr8 It uses fuel cells. They combine oxygen and hydrogen to give power and drinking water. Its a process that goes way back to gemini and was also used in apollo. Not the greatest in terms of reliability, but better than heavy batteries. Solar power probably better now if you have light power demands. The shuttle doesnt.

  • If I was landing on earth in the Space Shuttle Endeavor at night... I might die of joy.

  • How can they say mach 25 so casually?

  • So cool! I would sell my soul for a chance to go into space!

  • @jyork85 youll be selling it to the russians in 6 months time, cause there aint gunna be anyone else hauling into space from the free world thanks to obama....

  • @DumbYankies unfortunately. selling it to a country whos quality control needs work. we, as other nations as well, have had to repair thier systems on the ISS , i hope the next president. will either revive the shuttle program, OR coem up with somethign better.

  • just going 17,000 mph

  • Gotta love the casual conversation at 19,000 mph.

  • Wow you can see that the shuttle is coming in at about a 45 degree angle

  • vd very nice !!

  • @Tim733733

    What's with the sparks?

  • @Eagle1Division2 Some of the astronauts at NASASpaceflight said it's dust in the upper atmosphere, getting slapped by Endeavour at 25 times the speed of sound and getting fried in the process, thus turning into what looks like sparks. Doesn't hurt Endeavour as she's red hot and piledriving back home. Anyone in her way isn't going to live to tell the tale (such as dust) :-)

  • @Tim733733 the sparks you see is the air slamming into endeavour creating a state called plasma. It is just superheated air that creates the "flames". search wikipedia for reentry

  • @Tim733733 I can imagine a martian re-entry would be quiet the show, in that case...

  • @Eagle1Division2 When the shuttle enters the atmosphere which contains air, it collides with the air causing friction. Travelling at around 35 times the speed of sound, this friction generates loads of heat. In fact, a state of matter called Plasma is formed. It is more than 1000 degrees, and thus glow! It is NOT dust! :)

  • @prandtl002 lol - thanks for telling, but I already know (mach 27 I thought...). So the plasma only forms in tiny specs or what? What gives the spark-like appearance? I thought the gas and plasma were mixed smoothly with the air to give the orange glow and tail to the re-entering shuttle. But what's with the tiny sparks?

  • Vote up if you're horribly jealous of the astronauts (calmly talking about how awesome the sights are, etc.).

    'Cause I know I AM!

  • awesome

    

  • mach 25.1.

  • Most awesome machine ever built by humans, that's what that is!

  • I would love to see this filmed in HD!!

  • Is it really so quiet inside, during re-entry?

  • @Skoda130 Very good question, and the answer is no. You're hearing them talk via the microphones in their helmets. The helmets are sealed and visors are down, so inside the helmet is quiet - and that's why you're only hearing their voices.

    It's not too loud normally anyway, as the noise she (Endeavour in this case) would be making would be mainly her APUs (Auxiliary Power Units) which provide power to her systems used during re-entry and landing, and pressurization and life support systems.

  • @Tim733733 Thanks. But what about the aerodynamic noises?

  • @Skoda130 Nothing at the top end as they are still lacking atmosphere and thus no noise is possible. Entry Interface is when they hit the atmosphere, but still would be vastly reduced noise. When they come out of EI and she starts flying like an aircraft they call that the "Rocky Road" as they are back into atmosphere and she's bouncing around a bit - but we'd be talking similar noise to being on an aircraft (wind noise), maybe less as her engines aren't being used, she's gliding.

  • @Tim733733 I work for a company that manufactures the miniature transducer microphones used in applications such as this. Some can cancel out almost all sounds but the voice.

  • @Tim733733 JEEEEEEEEEEEEZ Imagine you being in a glider going 25 times the speed of sound???? Imagine if the engines where still running?????

  • @Skoda130 in space no one can hear you scream.

  • @Tim733733

    During re-entry, the visors are up after a brief check of the integrity of the suit. Some crewmembers even choose not to wear the gloves since they interfere with their duties. If the crewmembers were to re-enter with visors down, they would be breathing 100 Oxygen from the orbiter's life support system. Eventually, the suits would vent this oxygen into the cabin, increasing 02 in the cabin atmosphere to a condition that would be dangerous with regard to fire.

  • MACH 25.9 ???? FASTTTTTT

  • @edxx7 fast is a understatement :D

  • Hauling the mail.

  • what were the number he was calling out at about 4.30?

  • @BEARDEDMUSCLE Altitude and Speed. It's very edited, but there's calls such as "50" (Altitude) "255" (Speed), "30" (Feet) "230" (MPH).

  • i'd like to see the full descent from space into earth in hd. is it possible to do this? i haven't seen any vids on here showing the full descent from space so you get to see the scenary grdually get larger

  • @1982FMJ They don't have HD cameras on board, so no. But the video is a edit of a two hour full video on NASASpaceflight L2. They have others too, but it's a normal digital camcorder.

  • Any sound on this??

  • what causes the "flashes" at the beginning ?

  • The shuttle is travelling so fast during reentry that the air is smashing against the shuttle. That creates plasma that has a temperature of 1650 C. or 3000 F. Almost as hot as the surface of the sun. Every spacecraft has to go trough the heat and plasma to get down from orbit. To achieve orbit they have to have a veloctiy of 17500 mph:) or 27500 km/h. About 7-8 kilometers per second. In this speed they are in free fall around the earth because the earth is circular. This i called an orbit.

  • @joachim2464 thanks but I already know all you said, I only don't understand why the flashes are intermittent, i tend to imagine the plasma around the craft like a continuous flux

  • She said "aft", not "ass"...

  • yet is seems so calm & quiet!

  • Mach 25.1... I MUST go that fast...

  • close loop..WHAT? GUNS?

  • "We're doing Mach 25.1" LMAO. damn!

  • does she say "what a light show out the ass"?

  • @plasticbarf Heh, "out of the aft" - which ironically is Endeavour's ass ;)

  • @Tim733733 XD thats pretty funny

  • I find this video interesting because the light affect made in reenry. flashes like a UFO over many states known as hot spot for close encounters. maybe all mistaking ID of shuttles.

  • Yeah, very possible. They look very different to anything you'd normally see if you are under the path of re-entry. A glowing white object with a trail behind her, passing over your head at anything up to 25 times the speed of sound.

  • I <3 the shuttle.

  • All shuttles got the MEDS upgrade or "glass cockpit" between 1998 (Atlantis) and 2007 (Endeavour). MEDS replaces the 4 CRT screens and many of the analog instruments with 11 multicolor LCD screens similar to those of modern airliners.

  • That's because it's before she had the MEDS update to her flight deck. Those green screens are now replaced with up to date monitors like normal computer screeens.

  • No, this is Endeavour, the youngest Orbiter in the fleet.

  • wonder which flight this one is,sounds a bit like Frank Culbertson

  • Mach 25.1.... That's mind-bogglingly fast.

    I can't really get my head around what the shuttle must look like from a stationary vantage point doing that speed.

    Man, astronauts have balls.

  • I just looked it up and Mach 25.1 is equivelent to 19,106.297 mph (30 748.6044 kph)

  • Wow. It's certainly faster than your average sedan :)

  • yes, but remember that speed of sound depends on temperature, and the same mach number can mean substantially different speeds. Mach 1 at sea level is like 660 knots, and goes down to 583 at like 30,000 feet..i do concur that the shuttle goes fast, tho...that´s outta the question...,regards...

  • Actually, not very fast from a low altitude.

    If you live around Nevada through Texas, you can watch the Shuttle go by during reentry (at least if it's during the night).

    Just get the time it's supposed to pass over your area (you might have to go somewhere else to see it, though).

    The ionized gases that surround the Shuttle are really bright and make it quite easy to see in the sky.

  • Wow, you've seen that? I envy you :)

  • thats fast enough where you probably wouldn't really see it if it flew past you.

  • I wish to God NASA would Put some telemetry readings in the videos. I mean even your average motor racing on TV has Good telemetry available for the public, WHY NOT NASA? :(

  • contd from previous....

    but there are limitation of protection provided by G-suits. G-valve also a key component. it will decide how much and how long and how quick the pressure is applied to the suits. more advanced versions are computer controlled. But there are other methods available and used in space crafts such as position of the astronauts. (Gx is more tolerable than GZ and GY???- relate it to XY and Z axis of 3 dimentional world) - remember the postion of crew on take off??

  • reply to 7amsays- G-suit are nothing but compression bladers, as some one rightly said. there are 5 such bladders (different version of course) 2 for calf, 2 for thigh and one over the abdomen. what is more important is filling sequence. first to fill is calf then thigh and abdomen. fill with compressed air, according to the degree of G-protection required. simply they compress the distended leg veins and push blood towards the heart (hence brain) . contd.....

  • so why do they have G suits, it dosent look bumpy. just a question so dont have ago at me.

  • We were only having a go at the UFO people ;) They aren't G-Suits, they are launch and entry suits, which are mainly to protect them if they have to "leave the orbiter" such as blowing the hatch and sliding down a pole into the water. They can only do that in a very short window (or they'd die anyway), but look at the old images of shuttle missions (including the Challenger crew) and they used to have normal blue overalls.

  • Wow that was a quick response, thanks for the info :)

  • The orange suit you see is an advanced crew escape suit (ACES). These are used if the orbiter de-pressurizes. They do wear G-suits underneath. The G-suit pushes the blood from the legs to the head. No blackouts wanted here...

  • how does it push blood to head. just wondering how that worked.

  • They are the same thing a fighter pilot wears. The bladders around the legs inflate to squeeze the legs forcing blood to the upper body. I'm no expert on G-suits so you can probably find a more detailed explanation on the net.

  • They have G suits because the shuttle makes 2 G turns during reentry as a way to decelerate once the shuttle is in the atmosphere. Normally, 2 Gs would be nothing for trained astronauts, but after a week or two in orbit at zero Gs, 2 Gs could cause a black out, I guess.

  • @jonbirge

    actually the G suits are due to the fact that the body produces a smaller amount of blood while they are on orbit, so they are more susceptible to blacking out during the 2 G maneuvers which causes the remaining blood to pool in their legs.

  • Awesome!!! Congrats!

  • I've removed some of the wacko alien believers off this comment section as they should belong in mental institutions. I hope they get the help from doctors for imaginging little green men.

  • My god there are some assholes on this comments section. To sum up.

    1. There is no conspiracy, may I suggest laying off the cannabis.

    2. This is a handicam video as there are no communications during re-entry (what with the dodgy atmosphere.)

    3. You can run, but you can't fly.

  • Reminds me of those fools who created the "UFOs" video from an on orbit water dump :-)

    God speed Endeavour for today's re-entry!

  • My first inclination was to dismiss that as an appeal to authority, a common logical fallacy invoked when a person is unable to explain their own argument.

    Then I found a debate between Pari Spolter and a physicist (first result from a Google search for Pari Spolter), and I realized that 'authority' is really not the right word.

    'Appeal to lunacy' is perhaps a better term. Spolter comes across as some (linear) combination of an idiot and a crackpot. I'm not sure which is in the majority.

  • "Time Dilation and Lorentz contraction theorem!"

    And I suppose they're travelling 18 times the speed of light too, my unfortunately miseducated friend...?

  • If somebody goes faster than the speed of light, they would actually disintegrate into nothingness. That's what the theory says anyways...

  • lol...

  • no it doesn't

  • As with all conspiracy nonsense, there's a major hole, this time being the FACT this is what Lisa took with her minicam, which was processed on the ground a few weeks after she handed over the camera. There is NO live downlink from the crew cabin during re-entry. NASA does not hide anything, only wackos use that excuse as a cover blanket for their delousions. Please consult a doctor.

  • NASA does not hide anything?

    The word Anything is pretty all inclusive.

    It is debatable that Edgar Mitchell says otherwise along with what William Cooper said.

    Serious question though, why is there no Live downlink during re-entry?

  • No live downlink for video during re-entry, as the orbiter uses KU Band for video, and that antenna is stowed on the last flight day ahead of the Payload Bay Doors being closed.

  • Except for the PPOV link around TAEM, right? :) Is that S-Band?

  • Time dilation has nothing to do with a medium! There is no conspiracy, no point in having a conspiracy. You know nothing about time dilation or physics, so shut up.

  • that's a crazy thing to say. why do you think time dilation occurs as an exponent as you leave the atmosphere?

  • It's a very extensive explanation.

    I can send you a personal message regarding my theory and evidence thereof.

    I propose that as the astronauts leave the atmosphere, a split occurs in realities.

    To the observer on Earth, we will see the astronauts traverse the entire distance to the desired location.

    To the observer traveling there will be an instant 'warp' because traversing means traveling distance in the 3d realm.

    Space is a 4d realm where time doesn't exist so no "stuff" to traverse through.

  • T is greater thanTc is an object traversing through space therefore taking time to travel.

    T is less thanTc is an object "bending" space around itself so that there is no distance to travel so no time spent.

    Both occur at the same time but since we are bound by the 3d realm we only see the scenario were an object takes time to travel through space.

    The Law of Superposition states that all realities occur at the same time but we pick one to observe.

    If there were a split, we wouldn't know.

  • And since we don't know, it is clearly better to assume the simpler scenario - that space travel is just like it seems. Occam's razor, and all that.

  • That would be correct if the universe were subject to a linear reality. Unfortunately, when you are discussing multi-dimensional realities, Occam's Razor, Einstien's theory of relativity and current science falls apart.

    It's not that simple.

    You are correct in saying that it is a crazy idea.

    Crazy isn't insane though.

    Crazy is going against the accepted norm.

    Insane is repeating your actions expecting different results like NASA.

  • I have no idea what 'linear reality' means, and I suspect you don't, either.

    Scientific theories don't fall apart due to discussion. They fall apart due to experimental results which contradict the theories. If you have any such results which contradict special relativity or the rest of physics, please provide them.

    GPS satellites don't work unless you take into account special relativity. This is real-world evidence that special relativity accurately describes reality.

  • If you have no idea, then why don't you look it up before you comment and expose your ignorance?

    Linear means moving back and forth. no up and down. no skipping distance.

    A linear reality means you are traveling through time at a constant rate without the ability to go back in time or forward in time or up in time or down in time.

    Science falls apart when you travel faster than the speed of light relative to your starting point of zero miles an hour.

    Satellites don't travel faster than light.

  • You clearly have no understanding of special relativity. I am admittedly not an expert (I have only a bachelor's degree in physics), but compared to you, I know a hell of a lot.

    Special relativity describes nonlinear spacetime phenomena when relative velocities are close to the speed of light. Time dilation and Lorentz contraction are such phenomena.

    Your definition of the superposition principle is also wrong. It is a property of linear systems. It says nothing about 'multiple realities'.

  • You know more than therealverbz hes just someone who likes to think he knows everything and likes to say to people who know nothing about the subject he knows better.

  • Special relativity takes place after the speed of light to describe 4th dimensional reality physics.

    It's now futile to speak to someone who admittedly has no idea.

  • I understand perfectly what linear and nonlinear mean. You do not. As evidence, I cite your gibberish definition about moving only along one axis, without 'skipping' distance (whatever that means).

    Linear means a system has a property called 'additivity'. That is, f(a) + f(b) = f(a+b). Systems that do not exhibit this property are nonlinear.

    It is known that it takes an infinite amount of energy to accelerate an object to the speed of light (relative to some starting point).