I know plenty about the bible. Pro's and con's and have researched it greatly. I know this is your video and you can say what you want to but you do come across as if your the only person who has ever checked this stuff out and therefore your conclusions are infallible and final. Believe what you want to bu,t just remember it is just your belief. Many people alot smarter than you have researched alot more than you and come up with a totally opposite conclusion.
You're wrong in your (mis) understanding of the word knowledge. You're wrong when you say the great flood didn't happen (there's lots of evidence to suggest otherwise)...And you're wrong to snicker when you claim that this scottish guy believes God wrote the bible.....Well, he did!.....We are ALL God, so the group that put the bible together were also God. There's nothing 'free' in your thinking, you've 'adopted' most of it, atheists are the opposite side of the same coin as religious believers.
@neilwestham Are you a Hindu? Because if your Catholic or Jewish, the everyone is god comment just makes you sound crazy. And no everyone is not Jesus.
@1Lanavis1... I am not Hindu, Catholic or Jewish and no-one said anything about Jesus (who-ever he may or may not have been). If you drop the arrogance and the assumed intellect your perception of what is truth will be far clearer...Ask yourself this: "Why do I believe at all?"...And, "why do I acquire opinions of others to formulate my beliefs and then claim that as knowledge?"
@neilwestham I asked your religion to see your beliefs. I mentioned Jesus b/c some people believe that Jesus is everyone. Now before we continue further in this discussion, please explain what do you mean about everyone being God. BTW, I am an atheist. I don't take the opinions of others as knowledge. I don't even take my own perceptions and sense by themselves as knowledge. Don't presume that I am coming from either arrogance or assumed intellect. It just makes you seem a bit condescending.
@1Lanavis1...I don't have a religion, and I don't have beliefs. What do I need belief for?...There is only a singularity, everyone and everything is one, some call the singularity God, some call it the divine matrix, there are many names for it, it is only your beliefs that cause the illusion of separation...Simply by stating "I am an atheist" is divisive... I seem 'condescending' ?..You ought to watch your own videos back.
Simple silly atheists, do a little research and you won't sound like you're flaunting your ignorance but maybe that's what you're going for since your followers just chant and parrot what they hear, just like you. Genesis 2 doesn't present a creation account at all but presupposes the completion of God's work of creation set forth ijn chapter 1. The first 3 verses of Genesis2 simply carry the narrative of chpt 1 to its final and logical conclusion, using the same vocab. and style used in prev.ch
You said there are contradictions in the first two chapters of Genesis (dealing with the creation). As long as were are talking about the King James version here and not any other version, exactly which verses are you talking about are contradictions?
I think I might can help you out with that, if your interested that is. I'm not looking to get into an argument with you or anything.
all knowledge is based upon a certian belief. for example, science is based upon the belief that the external world is real. science cannot prove the existence of the external world because it must presuppose it's existence. as for your video, no christian that I know of believe that the bible was directly written by God. but inspired by God. as for the gosple "forgeries" no scholar believes that the gospels are forges. those that do, are of the minority of N.T scholarship.
ooh. I am bubbling with how fun you make attacking the untenable claims made by such . respect shown being substandard is evident as a response to others' disrespectful attacks claiming immunity. great! immune? handle. but not immune from attack if waging one personally. it's not the bible that is crappy but the BS version that people carry into their practice. materialist naturalist? may be true religion as opposed./>...>>>>>>>....>>>>>>
Tell me one "fact" that isnt meshed in with your BELIEF.remember the premise of your own video now.(its ALL belief really,its how we interpret those facts into our belief system,you old earth evolutionists have too many holes in your theory)all it comes down to the decision of your choice to which one is more believable.interesting vids by the way,im no troll.i just think you give interesting arguments
You are dumber than a sack of hammers. Bible is a book. Religion is a interpretation of that book by bunch of idiots, such as yourself, who cannot grasp certain concepts . God Is science. Christianity is what YOU are doing, even while calling yourself an atheist. Just get a job, and stop having sex.
Reading the comments on Scotty's vid, and the comments here, I have to say that guy's about as smug and dumb as you can get. Just love how he says "you atheists" in the same tone as 50's segregationists said "them coloreds." It's spiritual bigotry, plain and simple.
Quote from skeptics bible. "Revelation: No man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.--14:3-4" I wonder if the Jehovah's Witnesses really know the meaning of the 144,000. I kind of doubt it.
i wrote the bible yesterday. and the day before that and the day b efore that. in fact sometimes i write it twice in one day. everytime i wipe my own ass and smear stinking fecal matter onto paper i rewrite the bible
Angie: Great video! Have you checked out this guy's other videos? He seems to be a chemtrail nut as well, and he has a series of vids expounding his theory that gravity is just a form of vacuum (I think; I can't really tell exactly what he is claiming.) Kind of an all purpose wacko.
Another occultist cry for help. Your knowledge of the real world would be lucky to fill a thimble. Your programmed bitterness based on your childhood will do nothing but help the satanic loons hell bent on the misery of others.....feel proud you muppet
Hi Angie you talk alot about knowledge, but why are you directing people in taking sources from wikepedia. I was taught from proffessors to never use wikepedia as a information source.
@zeynah123 Wiki is a good starting point, but do research beyond that. Any forum where anyone can edit is bound to attract some wackos and people with agendas, so do the research.
i am married. now i revealed you the truth about my marital status. BUT, as stated by this professor, the bible is the only revealed word of truth in the universe. im pretty sure, that im married though. AngieAntiTheist plublishes videos on youtube. also true and easy to check, but not mentioned in the bible if im correct. smells like a nice contradiction.
even better: scottishprofessor tells us the truth about the god, jesus, the bible and such. oooopps. cant be, can it?
how typical is that! i checked out the video youre referring to. surprise surprise, ratings disabled. but hey, comments are possible. so i wrote one. guess what, approval needed. as this video is a response, but doesnt show up in the video response-section, i guess its the same with videos.
what a weak attitude for someone who has the absolute truth!
As he is allowing ratings on some of his videos, we should seek those out and rate him appropriately. That is what I do whenever I get the chance. I have never blocked censored or flagged anyone. He deserves to see his videos either be ignored or rated into the dumpster.
Hey Rayzer - I watched your vid & thought I clicked approve. I'll go do that now. (I don't allow auto-video responses b/c I get a lotta grief) I liked yours :D
I really pick on them hard for their assertion that the KJV were used. Did God decide suddenly in the early 1600s that his new chosen people were white and English speaking only? I always ask them about people who speak French, German, Portuguese, Spanish, Arabic, ad nauseum etc. Did God bestow some special blessing on this version and the English language?
@david521598 - That's pretty much the basis of Israeli substitution theology: all the biblical promises to the Jewish people are now for Anglo Christians - god's new Chosen People. A lot of it ends up being very racist.
Right. I think I've heard it called "Replacement Theology" as well. Since they like the KJV maybe they should all be Episcopalian/Anglican as well so that they can be a little more consistent. But God is no respecter of persons...right;) It's almost as if their system depends on contradictions necessarily.
Angie made foolish epistemic claims. She clearly hasn't studied Logical Positivism, nor the history of philosophy. Your pitiful attempt to change the subject only shows you are intellectually bankrupt on this subject too.
You chumps are redneck atheists, for you make idiotic empirical claims and you have no idea what empiricism is. You dorks claim to be logical, but you don't know what logic even is. Get educated.
Knowledge of philosophy offers nothing where facts and truths are necessary, like claiming god is real. Quit trying to play smart when you clearly are not, you redneck theist.
@RedBeetle You must be a professor of logic, what with the chumps, rednecks, idiotic, foolish, pitiful, intellectually bankrupt and my favorite dorks. So since you say that these people clearly haven't studied logic and philosophy, I'm assuming most of those who have are Calvinist or at least Christians ?
It's sad today's atheist doesn't have the intellectual capacity to present a philosophy that even tries to cover the main topics of thought. It appears today's atheist is not even motivated to study the history of philosophy--LOL.
Ayn Rand was the last atheist who tried to present philosophy as a system. She tried to present a coherent epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, politics, economics, ect.
Dr. John W. Robbins comprehensively refuted all of Rand's main points.
@RedBeetle "intellectual capacity" 1) First your argument is demonstrably incorrect. Religious belief and education level have been shown to have a inverse relationship. 2) If no atheist in the history of thought had ever supplied a complete philosophical system this would not weaken the position that insufficient evidence has been provided by your side to assume the existence of God. 3) The only thing you have shown is you are a master of the ad hominem attack and changing the subject.
Ha ha! RedBeetle I WAS NOT changing the subject. And I think I just laughed myself to death hearing you calling me a "redneck" and "intellectually bankrupt." I was not changing the subject becaus I was referring to her posting this vid on
Think Atheist as well.
And as for being stupid. I know a lot about Christianity... I was one... which was why I left it. Stop being a troll. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!
The problem with people saying the Bible shouldn't be taken literally is that once you stop taking it literally why should you listen to it? How do you tell what is metaphor and what is not? How can you glean absolute truth from it anymore? How is it just a not so interesting storybook?
At least fundamentalists seem to really accept the religion - moderates? Well, they're just clinging to nonsense, which seems worse...
Careful, while there is no evidence of Moses, that doesn't mean he didn't exist. One cannot make that claim with absolute certainty. I hypothesis that he probably did exist, and declared sun worship a very long time ago, in the neighborhood of 12,000 years ago in Egypt. I also think that the bible and koran deals with a single event that happened at the end of the last Ice Age (a mega flood; which is supported by evidence). The rest in just insanity being a response to this event.
@Scott - Moses never existed as described in the Bible, how's that? and do you have data points to support your hypothesis or is it mere speculation? (genuinely asking) because there isn't evidence of a global flood as described in the Bible ever happening.
Oh, while there is no evidence of Titania, that doesn't mean she didn't exist. You can't make that claim w/absolute certainty. It sounds silly when I say it about a fairy queen - why not about a miracle-working Biblical patriarch?
@AngieAntiTheist Nope, he wasn't a miracle man, if anything, a complete lunatic. That is what prophets are in the bible and koran. One must realize that all of this didn't come from nothing. Such insanity doesn't just happen.
I didn't say world wide flood. I said "mega flood". And yes, there is much evidence for those. That is how the Great Lakes were formed some 12,000 years ago, and it all coincides.
@AngieAntiTheist BionicDance has a video about the mega floods, if you are familiar with her. You can also look it up on wikipedia or whatever source you care to use. When a bunch of ice melts quickly, that is what happens. The Ice Age didn't go quietly.
Bible, Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita, Dammapada, Upanishads, Annalects of Confucious, Gnostic Gospels, Jewish Pseudepigrapha, Christian Apocypha, Kabbala, Manichaeistic Texts, Zoroastrian Scriptures, read'm all still an atheist. Contacted the Mormons for a Book of Mormon, but apparently they don't use the US mail, comes attached to two missionaries and I didn't have the energy to debate the day they showed up with it. But come on, magic underwear, really? Still wanna check it out though.
Reality though is a paradigm based on values.... morality runs knowledge.... pain is a fact based on the will..... the will is "god".... "god" is a metaphor encompassing concepts such as "love", "creation", "unit/family"...... you should read kierkegaaard.....
reality is only shared to the extent that you are with "people"...... when "they" become "you"...... faith = reality
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Wow,
Another epistemically challenged redneck atheist ranting mindlessly on youtube. Why am I not surprised?
Angie, your idiotic claim that knowledge is based on verification and observation only reveals you haven't scratched the surface of the history of philosophy.
Are you unaware that the Verification Principle was rejected by Karl Popper and other atheists...because it can't be verified?LOL
Visit my channel page for an intelligent presentation of Calvinism. We have all tha answers.
Is your god falsifiable? Because I'm guessing you don't understand Popper. Just because the verification principle was rejected by Popper doesn't mean you should believe anything for which there is no disproof. You have to attempt to falsify your god and fail lots and lots of times for belief to be justified. But of course you are taking a surface understanding of a philosophical principle in order to obfuscate the burden of proof to atheists.
We've seen a MILLION AND A HALF OF YOU [and by you I mean theists that make comments that ad nothing to the conversation and don't give us any new information]. I respect your right to opinion, but Angie is my FRIEND and I DON'T like you attacking her as a "Epistemically challenged redneck."
If you're going to troll on someones video, do it on YOUR OWN!!
@skycomet19 - I laughed at being called redneck. I support gay rights, childrens rights, womens rights, immigrants rights; I don't own a gun & I laugh at my Bible. Doesn't sound like my idea of a redneck :P
WHY is the Abrahamic death cultist more interested in insults and reliance on incoherent word play rather than empiricism?
IS it your contention that you can verify that verification is invalid?
WHAT rewards are there for the imperfect slave who uses arrogance and dishonesty to defend his "perfect" master's inability to make himself understood?
Hey farvision - Thanks for letting me know. I'm actually tried a couple times to fix it, but there is no space/brokenness in the editing fields. there it looks fine. It's only live here that the links are screwed up. (Suggestions would be welcome! Thanks)
That makes it subjective. We treat belief as if it were fact, and act upon belief with faith, but this is both foolhardy and dangerous.
I never been to France. If I got on a plane to get to France, there's a good chance that there's a France where the plane could land, based on objective evidence I could find for myself prior to boarding the plane. I can't get on a plane and go to Heaven, because it's not a place. It doesn't exist, yet some still believe it's there.
Anyway, what is this obsession with the KJV of the bible? I personally do not get it. I know a server here in Germany which hosts 39 versions of the bible and I bet, that these versions do not tell the same stuff.
The KJV is a very nice translation, but it's inaccurate, especially the Old Testament part. I'd like to see them come out with a newer KJV (and I don't mean the NKJV), which says true to the original language of the KJV but modifires the errors. I like 16th Century English. Who exacvtly are these retards out there who find it too difficult to read 16th Century English?
Good points. I think people should read the Bible and Koran if they haven't done so.
The Koran is really short. It is only 114 chapters averaging about a page per chapter, so you can read all of it in an hour or two. If the Bible is nonsense, seemingly written by nasty ten year olds, the Koran makes the Bible look like nuclear science. Take about 100 of the worst written pages of the Bible toss them in the air and arrange them totally by chance and you have the Koran.
"Knowledge is based on facts and observable truths and things which can be verified and understood by others"
Knowledge-The fact or condition of knowing something with familiarity gained through experience or association (2) : acquaintance with or understanding of a science, art, or technique b (1) : the fact or condition of being aware of something.
What you are describing is not Knowledge. You are describing truth.
If there is any truth at all then there is objective truth.
What's wrong with reading the King James Bible cover to cover? Sure, it's a dull at parts, but it's a great way to make an atheist. So few people have read the thing, which is probably why so many believe in it.
The first thing that struck me was: How could God be immoral? Doesn't that contradict the whole "god is good" bit? Second, I started actually thinking about the stories and wondering how they were possible. I started wondering about how species got all over the place if Noah's boat was stuck on a mountain. The stories contradicted what I knew about the world from direct observation, and that sparked my journey to Reason.
@KraiseeDAtheist Perhaps because without faith god is nothing, and evidence removes the need for faith? Doing anything to give indication that god exists negates god's existence by god's own rules. If the bible proves the existence of god, then by those rules god doesn't exist.
`Oh dear, says God, `I hadnt thought of that, and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
The argument from Douglas Adams really does answer that one best, I think.
I sometimes wonder what the alien bible might look like! It's probably a book full of scientific formulas, and they are probably all actually demonstrably correct.
@Zaunstar I don't think aliens would have a Bible. But they might have story books for their kids about weird hominoids out at the edge of the galaxy who did have a Bible...
@mycatisamoron But how else could you evaluate the verasity of your religion without adequately understanding your own? Besides, the vast majority of Christians have never read the Bible in its entirety. Thus, they are believing in something they can't even evaluate for themselves.
You make the undeniable mistake of assuming that Christians evaluate anything. There is a reason they are called sheep. If they do look at the evidence objectively (and definite lack thereof), they will do just like all of the former Christians and become non-believers.
@belipo - Of course not. Words are not "objectively true" in the way you refer to. They are created by us, for us, and our tools for communicating. They change over time. (Seen anyone writing "ye" a whole late lately?) Again, quit being a turd. You know this shit; you're just being obtuse.
Why is the bible supposed to be so great? I don't get it. If it had given tips on animal husbandry or crop rotation or basic medicine and cleanliness rather than getting hung up on pork and sin, it may have been of some use. As Angie says, it contradicts itself and there is nothing in it to suggest that it wasn't written by desert dwellers trying to make sense of their middle eastern world.
The Bible and Christianity as a whole are considered so "great" in this time period because the vast majority are Christian. Just as in the times of the Roman Empire, Paganism ( I know this is a gross generalization to encompass all Pagan religions) was seen as the "great" religion. Just as that time passed, so will Christianity's. Our future generations will be blessed indeed when that occurs.
"Behold on the first day god created hydrogen and an expanding universe, he then rested for a few billion years, popped back to create life on a backwater in one of the millions of galaxies called Earth and then disappeared off again until he created Adam out of some dust. Then he wrote a book".
Anyone who can read the Bible cover to cover and still believe it to be the absolute truth is not reading it objectively. The claim that "you if you seek God with Sincerity that the Lord will reveal himself to you" is to say that I believe that God did it and no matter what evidence there is to the contrary. It is about as valid as saying that someone who once believed and is now an Atheist "was never truly a Christian."
Angie... I am so happy I found you :). I came home from a down day... I go to a Catholic school. But, its just nice to see someone who thinks like me, and thinks in terms of reality and critical thinking. Thanks for just being you :)
I'd never heard of the Skeptics Annotated Bible. I just went there and fell in love. This is the most amazing resource. If for no other reason, you are awesome for turning me on to that. (You're awesome for other reasons too.)
@mycatisamoron Well thanks for the opinion. I will continue to enjoy the Skeptics Bible. And what basis do you have for the Exodus? You have the Bible, a book so riddled with inaccuracies that it can't even get itself right. A lot of modern archeologists, like Ze'ev Herzog, think the story is bunk, because there's little evidence to support it. And no, the Bible doesn't count.
Yeh, the Bible does count, and I say the Skeptics Bible is ignorant largely because it depends on a christological reading of the Old Testament.They basiclaly deal with how Christians interpret key Old Testament passages and then assume they've somehow refuted the Old Testament. But Christians are morons, and it's not their book!
@mycatisamoron Ah, thanks for the clarification. Sorry for before. Now that you mention it, that does seem to be true, but I am doing it mainly for the humor, so that plays right into my hands!
I love it when Christians say Thomas Jefferson was a christian because he had a bible lol
He removed the resurrection the divine conception and all the angels and miracles. Hilariously Jesus dies on the cross and then it ends there lol no resurrection lol.
Jefferson said "There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man. I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter which is evidently his, and which is as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill." (ref. wikipedia) Diamonds in a dunghill...no wonder his bible is only 46 pages.
yep but there still are Christians who use his bible as evidence for Jefferson being "christian" They call it a
"revised" or standardized bible but in fact it is censored bible. They say he took out all the dogma and supernatural stuff to make it more suitable for the native American culture which is bullshit because Indians already had divine revelation,conception, and intervention already accepted in there culture for thousands of years prior.
I'm glad that you're able to see what a load of shit the Bible truly is! I spent countless hours, days, months, and years reading it thinking and believing with all my heart, mind, body, and "soul" that it was the true Word of God as did you. I tried to reconcile talking snakes, the two chapters in Genesis, a talking donkey, Jesus's failed prophecies, etc, etc, etc. Eventually you just have to say ENOUGH! and admit what a piece of bullshit artifact the Bible truly is and that there is no god.
Of course...If the Bible is proven wrong through modern science, it magically turns into an allegory. You can be certain that thousands of years ago when that story was written, it certainly wasn't taken as anything but literal. As modern science continues to grow and we learn more, the Bible is shown more and more as the ignorant writings of desert dwellers that it truly is.
WHY do you make the claim that the "first couple of chapters of Genesis are CLEARLY not literal", while there is so much contention regarding its interpretation, by believers?
IS the latter passage from (Ex: 19:4 "You yourselves have seen what I DID to Egypt, and how I carried you on EAGLES' WINGS and brought you to myself"), "CLEARLY not literal"?
WHAT gives you the authority to determine what is literal and what is "CLEARLY not..."?
@whyiswhat There is no such "contention" among Jews, and Jews wrote the damn book. What would ignorant Christians know? And yes, Exodus 19:4 is clearly a metaphor and an anthropomorphism.
In fact, the Christians who take these things literally are a tiny little minority of crackpots living with tinfoil hats.
IS the portion of the quote (Ex: 19:4 "You yourselves have seen what I DID to Egypt...) ", "CLEARLY metaphor"?
WHAT is the point of claiming there is a god, who has sent a book of directly dictated instructions, if the portion of the quote I highlighted, is according to your standards, just metaphor?
Exodus 19:4 is not a metaphor, the Exodus really did happen. But the reference to eagle wings most definitely was a metaphor because the Jews did not go out of Egypt on eagle's wings. What is non-literal is the pre-Abrahamic section of the book of Genesis. This is not something I just made up out of my backside, this is well known in the Jewish tradition.
By the way, I'm not suggesting the Genesis creation account is just a quaint little children's story. It's not.
@whyiswhat The pre-Abrahamic part of Genesis is full of Kabbalistic symbolism which allude to deep spiritual truths. If anything, to look at these things as being literal and to ignore the spiritual truth behind them is to seriously distort and to render them completely meaningless.
i hate it when people with academic titles (like this professor) use only they authority to talk foolish people into faith with even more foolish "arguments"
@AngieAntiTheist , ok he´s definitely not a professor (at least not in the academic sense of the word (after checking the viedeo and his profile-page))
He isn't a prof. he is a man who suffers from delusions of grandeur. In one of his earlier vids (now removed) he claimed that Newton and Einstein were only half right and he fixed their work. of course there was no referrence to peer reviewed work he had done. It's my guess he's some poor sod flipping burgers or some equally intelectually demanding work in some podunk town and street preaching in his off time.
@owchywawa It's not that it was made up, just very heavily exaggerated.
VERY exaggerated. Chances are it was a local flood that the people living there saw as a world ending flood, considering that small area was their entire world. Then the story was passed down and, just like every other story passed down before the inventing of writing, details were changed/exaggerated.
@p2umpkin, what does the flood have to do with Moses? That was Noah who built the ark, and the story of Noah is most definitely not a literal event but a parable (and no, I'm not making that up because of "science"; it's always been understood that way right up until Archbishop Unger startes the retarded biblical literalist movement).
@ScottJanssen Sorry, but if you read the Epic of Gilgamesh you'll see that it has nothing in common wih the story of Noah except a flood. Other than that, they're completely different stories.
Jewish people needed a folk hero. Doesn't matter if he was real or not. He may or may not be based on a real person that existed, no way to know. What is important is there isn't any evidence any supernatural events really occurred regarding this story.
"What is important is there isn't any evidence any supernatural events really occurred regarding this story."
What more evidence can we have than from literature? Unless you mean the Egyptians could have also written about how a god defeated him, but I doubt you would accept that any more than the Bible, so... *shrugs*
There may have been a guy named Moses, maybe he even had sibs named Aaron & Miriam. But there was no parting of the red sea, no ten plagues in Egypt, no exodus, no evidence that there was ever even Jewish slavery within Egypt as described in the Bible! Don't even get me started on the Ten Commandments. Just go listen to George Carlin's take on that top ten list.
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Why do you trust comedians rather than scholars? I would suggest scholarly sources rather than a comedian. Not saying you rely entirely on comedians. But come one.
I know plenty about the bible. Pro's and con's and have researched it greatly. I know this is your video and you can say what you want to but you do come across as if your the only person who has ever checked this stuff out and therefore your conclusions are infallible and final. Believe what you want to bu,t just remember it is just your belief. Many people alot smarter than you have researched alot more than you and come up with a totally opposite conclusion.
89afvet 2 weeks ago
You're wrong in your (mis) understanding of the word knowledge. You're wrong when you say the great flood didn't happen (there's lots of evidence to suggest otherwise)...And you're wrong to snicker when you claim that this scottish guy believes God wrote the bible.....Well, he did!.....We are ALL God, so the group that put the bible together were also God. There's nothing 'free' in your thinking, you've 'adopted' most of it, atheists are the opposite side of the same coin as religious believers.
neilwestham 2 months ago
@neilwestham Are you a Hindu? Because if your Catholic or Jewish, the everyone is god comment just makes you sound crazy. And no everyone is not Jesus.
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@1Lanavis1... I am not Hindu, Catholic or Jewish and no-one said anything about Jesus (who-ever he may or may not have been). If you drop the arrogance and the assumed intellect your perception of what is truth will be far clearer...Ask yourself this: "Why do I believe at all?"...And, "why do I acquire opinions of others to formulate my beliefs and then claim that as knowledge?"
neilwestham 2 months ago
@neilwestham I asked your religion to see your beliefs. I mentioned Jesus b/c some people believe that Jesus is everyone. Now before we continue further in this discussion, please explain what do you mean about everyone being God. BTW, I am an atheist. I don't take the opinions of others as knowledge. I don't even take my own perceptions and sense by themselves as knowledge. Don't presume that I am coming from either arrogance or assumed intellect. It just makes you seem a bit condescending.
1Lanavis1 2 months ago
@1Lanavis1...I don't have a religion, and I don't have beliefs. What do I need belief for?...There is only a singularity, everyone and everything is one, some call the singularity God, some call it the divine matrix, there are many names for it, it is only your beliefs that cause the illusion of separation...Simply by stating "I am an atheist" is divisive... I seem 'condescending' ?..You ought to watch your own videos back.
neilwestham 2 months ago
@neilwestham What do you "watch your own videos back"? I don't have videos.
1Lanavis1 2 months ago
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@neilwestham I meant What do you mean by "watch your own videos back"? I don't have videos.
1Lanavis1 2 months ago
Simple silly atheists, do a little research and you won't sound like you're flaunting your ignorance but maybe that's what you're going for since your followers just chant and parrot what they hear, just like you. Genesis 2 doesn't present a creation account at all but presupposes the completion of God's work of creation set forth ijn chapter 1. The first 3 verses of Genesis2 simply carry the narrative of chpt 1 to its final and logical conclusion, using the same vocab. and style used in prev.ch
habfan24 8 months ago
You said there are contradictions in the first two chapters of Genesis (dealing with the creation). As long as were are talking about the King James version here and not any other version, exactly which verses are you talking about are contradictions?
I think I might can help you out with that, if your interested that is. I'm not looking to get into an argument with you or anything.
guitardavid79 8 months ago
all knowledge is based upon a certian belief. for example, science is based upon the belief that the external world is real. science cannot prove the existence of the external world because it must presuppose it's existence. as for your video, no christian that I know of believe that the bible was directly written by God. but inspired by God. as for the gosple "forgeries" no scholar believes that the gospels are forges. those that do, are of the minority of N.T scholarship.
lilrat489 9 months ago
Nice video. Thumbs up ++.
ampere11 11 months ago
Belief is not necessarily knowledge however knowledge is necessarily a (form of) belief (i.e. belief without, or at least very little, doubt).
rob18767 11 months ago
@rob18767 I think it depends on how one defines "belief".
AngieAntiTheist 11 months ago
@AngieAntiTheist
For me it is simply thinking something is true. I don't really know any other sensible definition of belief :)
rob18767 11 months ago
Are you a good witch, or a bad witch?
indihil 1 year ago
I just went to see that video, the user took it down...
scotchrocket411 1 year ago
Let alone, thousands of pages are missing in the bible. The book was reprinted by hand by illiterate men. The bible is useless paper.
JimmyGunXD556 1 year ago
ooh. I am bubbling with how fun you make attacking the untenable claims made by such . respect shown being substandard is evident as a response to others' disrespectful attacks claiming immunity. great! immune? handle. but not immune from attack if waging one personally. it's not the bible that is crappy but the BS version that people carry into their practice. materialist naturalist? may be true religion as opposed./>...>>>>>>>....>>>>>>
TheAnantaSesa 1 year ago
Tell me one "fact" that isnt meshed in with your BELIEF.remember the premise of your own video now.(its ALL belief really,its how we interpret those facts into our belief system,you old earth evolutionists have too many holes in your theory)all it comes down to the decision of your choice to which one is more believable.interesting vids by the way,im no troll.i just think you give interesting arguments
TheSpliffSmoker 1 year ago
you epic win for using != for "does not equal"... you can haz all my internetz =P
Lehigh2011 1 year ago
You are dumber than a sack of hammers. Bible is a book. Religion is a interpretation of that book by bunch of idiots, such as yourself, who cannot grasp certain concepts . God Is science. Christianity is what YOU are doing, even while calling yourself an atheist. Just get a job, and stop having sex.
ForceMajeure360 1 year ago
Congratulations, you get another subscriber! Very good video.
PluralOfEverything 1 year ago
Reading the comments on Scotty's vid, and the comments here, I have to say that guy's about as smug and dumb as you can get. Just love how he says "you atheists" in the same tone as 50's segregationists said "them coloreds." It's spiritual bigotry, plain and simple.
atimnie 1 year ago
Quote from skeptics bible. "Revelation: No man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.--14:3-4" I wonder if the Jehovah's Witnesses really know the meaning of the 144,000. I kind of doubt it.
atimnie 1 year ago
Moses = Paul Bunyan?... would explain how he parted the red sea xDD
BaphometScience 1 year ago
i wrote the bible yesterday. and the day before that and the day b efore that. in fact sometimes i write it twice in one day. everytime i wipe my own ass and smear stinking fecal matter onto paper i rewrite the bible
xerophiLIEs 1 year ago
Angie: Great video! Have you checked out this guy's other videos? He seems to be a chemtrail nut as well, and he has a series of vids expounding his theory that gravity is just a form of vacuum (I think; I can't really tell exactly what he is claiming.) Kind of an all purpose wacko.
thomascoward 1 year ago
oh dear i have to talk you about many things
thanks for the therapy
its so relaxing when you hut somebody with a baseball bat of truth
when other one's bowling no ball
romeodies12 1 year ago
I live this video. That one guy wants to call u a muppet and he's the one having god strings pulled by the church love it
deadsnowman83 1 year ago
What do you believe as far as how we exist? Afterlife? Aliens? Carma? Any superstitions? Curious :)
CoCoNuTzTube 1 year ago
Another occultist cry for help. Your knowledge of the real world would be lucky to fill a thimble. Your programmed bitterness based on your childhood will do nothing but help the satanic loons hell bent on the misery of others.....feel proud you muppet
scottwebb 1 year ago
@scottwebb "Hell bent on the misery of others." When did we start talking about the catholic church?
atimnie 1 year ago
Hi Angie you talk alot about knowledge, but why are you directing people in taking sources from wikepedia. I was taught from proffessors to never use wikepedia as a information source.
zeynah123 1 year ago
@zeynah123 Wiki is a good starting point, but do research beyond that. Any forum where anyone can edit is bound to attract some wackos and people with agendas, so do the research.
atimnie 1 year ago
The KJV was good enough for jesus it is good enough for us! :-)
KasparHauser4 1 year ago
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FnordisCord 1 year ago
i am married. now i revealed you the truth about my marital status. BUT, as stated by this professor, the bible is the only revealed word of truth in the universe. im pretty sure, that im married though. AngieAntiTheist plublishes videos on youtube. also true and easy to check, but not mentioned in the bible if im correct. smells like a nice contradiction.
even better: scottishprofessor tells us the truth about the god, jesus, the bible and such. oooopps. cant be, can it?
theheinzification 1 year ago 4
this so called scottishprofessor said like: "jesus is the truth." how can a person be the truth. he can tell the truth, but he cannot be it.
theheinzification 1 year ago 3
how typical is that! i checked out the video youre referring to. surprise surprise, ratings disabled. but hey, comments are possible. so i wrote one. guess what, approval needed. as this video is a response, but doesnt show up in the video response-section, i guess its the same with videos.
what a weak attitude for someone who has the absolute truth!
theheinzification 1 year ago 4
@theheinzification And now scottishprofessor has falsely flagged RayzerAtheist who also did a response vid. Maybe I'm next?
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago 5
we should flag him for flagging!
theheinzification 1 year ago
As he is allowing ratings on some of his videos, we should seek those out and rate him appropriately. That is what I do whenever I get the chance. I have never blocked censored or flagged anyone. He deserves to see his videos either be ignored or rated into the dumpster.
RayzerAtheistX2 1 year ago
@RayzerAtheistX2 Yeah and it's not simple retaliation when his videos really do suck :)
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago
@AngieAntiTheist Oh jeez, I hope not, my computer is having issues with video downloaders, so I can't mirror this video. Maybe someone else will?
atimnie 1 year ago
Hey Rayzer - I watched your vid & thought I clicked approve. I'll go do that now. (I don't allow auto-video responses b/c I get a lotta grief) I liked yours :D
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago
I really pick on them hard for their assertion that the KJV were used. Did God decide suddenly in the early 1600s that his new chosen people were white and English speaking only? I always ask them about people who speak French, German, Portuguese, Spanish, Arabic, ad nauseum etc. Did God bestow some special blessing on this version and the English language?
david521598 1 year ago 2
@david521598 - That's pretty much the basis of Israeli substitution theology: all the biblical promises to the Jewish people are now for Anglo Christians - god's new Chosen People. A lot of it ends up being very racist.
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago
Right. I think I've heard it called "Replacement Theology" as well. Since they like the KJV maybe they should all be Episcopalian/Anglican as well so that they can be a little more consistent. But God is no respecter of persons...right;) It's almost as if their system depends on contradictions necessarily.
david521598 1 year ago
You are heavily under-subscribed. Keep up the good work, cheers!
Segepop 1 year ago
preach the good word angie! rAmen!
davism97 1 year ago
You will become a Youtube great if you keep this up.
askegg 1 year ago
Bravo. My new favorite You Tuber.
Love it.
MichaelSJLH 1 year ago
Awesome Angie!! Thanks for posting this on TA!!
skycomet19 2 years ago
@skycomer,
Angie made foolish epistemic claims. She clearly hasn't studied Logical Positivism, nor the history of philosophy. Your pitiful attempt to change the subject only shows you are intellectually bankrupt on this subject too.
You chumps are redneck atheists, for you make idiotic empirical claims and you have no idea what empiricism is. You dorks claim to be logical, but you don't know what logic even is. Get educated.
Angie, quit slumming:
Calvinism is Christianity!
RedBeetle 2 years ago
Knowledge of philosophy offers nothing where facts and truths are necessary, like claiming god is real. Quit trying to play smart when you clearly are not, you redneck theist.
cujomade101 2 years ago
@RedBeetle You must be a professor of logic, what with the chumps, rednecks, idiotic, foolish, pitiful, intellectually bankrupt and my favorite dorks. So since you say that these people clearly haven't studied logic and philosophy, I'm assuming most of those who have are Calvinist or at least Christians ?
MichaelSJLH 1 year ago 2
@redneck atheist,
It's sad today's atheist doesn't have the intellectual capacity to present a philosophy that even tries to cover the main topics of thought. It appears today's atheist is not even motivated to study the history of philosophy--LOL.
Ayn Rand was the last atheist who tried to present philosophy as a system. She tried to present a coherent epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, politics, economics, ect.
Dr. John W. Robbins comprehensively refuted all of Rand's main points.
RedBeetle 1 year ago
@RedBeetle "intellectual capacity" 1) First your argument is demonstrably incorrect. Religious belief and education level have been shown to have a inverse relationship. 2) If no atheist in the history of thought had ever supplied a complete philosophical system this would not weaken the position that insufficient evidence has been provided by your side to assume the existence of God. 3) The only thing you have shown is you are a master of the ad hominem attack and changing the subject.
MichaelSJLH 1 year ago 5
@RedBeetle Are you kidding me? You don't have a clue what you're talking about do you?
Egondv 1 year ago 2
Ha ha! RedBeetle I WAS NOT changing the subject. And I think I just laughed myself to death hearing you calling me a "redneck" and "intellectually bankrupt." I was not changing the subject becaus I was referring to her posting this vid on
Think Atheist as well.
And as for being stupid. I know a lot about Christianity... I was one... which was why I left it. Stop being a troll. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!
skycomet19 1 year ago
RedBeetle,
Which specific claims that were made by Angie were you referring to as being "foolish epistemic claims"?
MENCADO 1 year ago
The problem with people saying the Bible shouldn't be taken literally is that once you stop taking it literally why should you listen to it? How do you tell what is metaphor and what is not? How can you glean absolute truth from it anymore? How is it just a not so interesting storybook?
At least fundamentalists seem to really accept the religion - moderates? Well, they're just clinging to nonsense, which seems worse...
landfillpoet 2 years ago 3
Thank you for the correction, ItsTheSuperFly That is what I intended to express but I get a bit feisty once the REC button is on :)
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
Careful, while there is no evidence of Moses, that doesn't mean he didn't exist. One cannot make that claim with absolute certainty. I hypothesis that he probably did exist, and declared sun worship a very long time ago, in the neighborhood of 12,000 years ago in Egypt. I also think that the bible and koran deals with a single event that happened at the end of the last Ice Age (a mega flood; which is supported by evidence). The rest in just insanity being a response to this event.
ScottJanssen 2 years ago
@Scott - Moses never existed as described in the Bible, how's that? and do you have data points to support your hypothesis or is it mere speculation? (genuinely asking) because there isn't evidence of a global flood as described in the Bible ever happening.
Oh, while there is no evidence of Titania, that doesn't mean she didn't exist. You can't make that claim w/absolute certainty. It sounds silly when I say it about a fairy queen - why not about a miracle-working Biblical patriarch?
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
@AngieAntiTheist Nope, he wasn't a miracle man, if anything, a complete lunatic. That is what prophets are in the bible and koran. One must realize that all of this didn't come from nothing. Such insanity doesn't just happen.
I didn't say world wide flood. I said "mega flood". And yes, there is much evidence for those. That is how the Great Lakes were formed some 12,000 years ago, and it all coincides.
ScottJanssen 2 years ago
@AngieAntiTheist BionicDance has a video about the mega floods, if you are familiar with her. You can also look it up on wikipedia or whatever source you care to use. When a bunch of ice melts quickly, that is what happens. The Ice Age didn't go quietly.
ScottJanssen 2 years ago
Okay Scott - just making sure you weren't claiming a parting of the Red Sea or anything :P
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago
@AngieAntiTheist Nah, I am a little bit smarter than that. Many legends surrounded Billy the Kid even during his lifetime. It's akin to that.
ScottJanssen 1 year ago
Bible, Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita, Dammapada, Upanishads, Annalects of Confucious, Gnostic Gospels, Jewish Pseudepigrapha, Christian Apocypha, Kabbala, Manichaeistic Texts, Zoroastrian Scriptures, read'm all still an atheist. Contacted the Mormons for a Book of Mormon, but apparently they don't use the US mail, comes attached to two missionaries and I didn't have the energy to debate the day they showed up with it. But come on, magic underwear, really? Still wanna check it out though.
disrxt 2 years ago
Religion is poetic illiteracy........
Reality though is a paradigm based on values.... morality runs knowledge.... pain is a fact based on the will..... the will is "god".... "god" is a metaphor encompassing concepts such as "love", "creation", "unit/family"...... you should read kierkegaaard.....
reality is only shared to the extent that you are with "people"...... when "they" become "you"...... faith = reality
codehendrix 2 years ago
GREAT JOB! Angie. You Rock. Thanks for the video!
Spktrthquietlynclear 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Wow,
Another epistemically challenged redneck atheist ranting mindlessly on youtube. Why am I not surprised?
Angie, your idiotic claim that knowledge is based on verification and observation only reveals you haven't scratched the surface of the history of philosophy.
Are you unaware that the Verification Principle was rejected by Karl Popper and other atheists...because it can't be verified?LOL
Visit my channel page for an intelligent presentation of Calvinism. We have all tha answers.
RedBeetle 2 years ago
Is your god falsifiable? Because I'm guessing you don't understand Popper. Just because the verification principle was rejected by Popper doesn't mean you should believe anything for which there is no disproof. You have to attempt to falsify your god and fail lots and lots of times for belief to be justified. But of course you are taking a surface understanding of a philosophical principle in order to obfuscate the burden of proof to atheists.
kamijk 2 years ago
RedBettle.
We've seen a MILLION AND A HALF OF YOU [and by you I mean theists that make comments that ad nothing to the conversation and don't give us any new information]. I respect your right to opinion, but Angie is my FRIEND and I DON'T like you attacking her as a "Epistemically challenged redneck."
If you're going to troll on someones video, do it on YOUR OWN!!
skycomet19 2 years ago
@skycomet19 - I laughed at being called redneck. I support gay rights, childrens rights, womens rights, immigrants rights; I don't own a gun & I laugh at my Bible. Doesn't sound like my idea of a redneck :P
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago
@AngieAntiTheist -- or should I say AngieAntiRedneck?
plundgren 1 year ago
WHY is the Abrahamic death cultist more interested in insults and reliance on incoherent word play rather than empiricism?
IS it your contention that you can verify that verification is invalid?
WHAT rewards are there for the imperfect slave who uses arrogance and dishonesty to defend his "perfect" master's inability to make himself understood?
whyiswhat 1 year ago 2
@Whyiswhat -
Good point. IDK. He just seems to be a normal zealot...
zealots are more interested in saving souls than picking up books [other than the bible of course]
skycomet19 1 year ago
first link has extra space, second link broken in half
farvision 2 years ago
Hey farvision - Thanks for letting me know. I'm actually tried a couple times to fix it, but there is no space/brokenness in the editing fields. there it looks fine. It's only live here that the links are screwed up. (Suggestions would be welcome! Thanks)
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
try them again with a space separating the urls from the parenthesis. It might be parsing wrong because of that.
If that doesn't work, remove the parenthesis entirely.
farvision 2 years ago
farvision - Thanks again. the links are working now.
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago
great! I confirm that the links work.
good channel by the way - clearly stated points.
farvision 1 year ago
your link is broken in half
farvision 2 years ago
The snake handling verse is a forgery? Disappointing. That's one of my favorite verses. Do me a favor...don't tell the snake-handlers...LOL
utoad9 2 years ago
Belief Is Your Truth.
That makes it subjective. We treat belief as if it were fact, and act upon belief with faith, but this is both foolhardy and dangerous.
I never been to France. If I got on a plane to get to France, there's a good chance that there's a France where the plane could land, based on objective evidence I could find for myself prior to boarding the plane. I can't get on a plane and go to Heaven, because it's not a place. It doesn't exist, yet some still believe it's there.
ZachsMind 2 years ago
The whole statement you have made....
Is this absolutley true or just your opinion?
belipo 2 years ago
Angie, stop kicking so much ass. I can't take any more. :)
bdwilson1000 2 years ago
Anyway, what is this obsession with the KJV of the bible? I personally do not get it. I know a server here in Germany which hosts 39 versions of the bible and I bet, that these versions do not tell the same stuff.
FHB71 2 years ago
The KJV is a very nice translation, but it's inaccurate, especially the Old Testament part. I'd like to see them come out with a newer KJV (and I don't mean the NKJV), which says true to the original language of the KJV but modifires the errors. I like 16th Century English. Who exacvtly are these retards out there who find it too difficult to read 16th Century English?
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
I like old English as well, but rather from Shakespeare :-)
"There are be more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy", but I tend to exclude deities from this view :-D
FHB71 2 years ago
About the Rabbits.....
They are Godless and have no hangups about sex.
And they eat a lot of carrots.
I want to be a rabbit.
kalamain 2 years ago 2
Things that do not exist cannot write books.
I've heard of 'ghost writing' but....Wow! B-)
kalamain 2 years ago
Good luck at trying to get a devout Christian to understand that faith is not fact. I've already tried, and it doesn't ever seem to sink in...
JediTat 2 years ago
Hi Angie,
Good points. I think people should read the Bible and Koran if they haven't done so.
The Koran is really short. It is only 114 chapters averaging about a page per chapter, so you can read all of it in an hour or two. If the Bible is nonsense, seemingly written by nasty ten year olds, the Koran makes the Bible look like nuclear science. Take about 100 of the worst written pages of the Bible toss them in the air and arrange them totally by chance and you have the Koran.
JayPhilosopher 2 years ago 2
@JayPhilosopher
I loled
mandangalo18 2 years ago
"Knowledge is based on facts and observable truths and things which can be verified and understood by others"
Knowledge-The fact or condition of knowing something with familiarity gained through experience or association (2) : acquaintance with or understanding of a science, art, or technique b (1) : the fact or condition of being aware of something.
What you are describing is not Knowledge. You are describing truth.
If there is any truth at all then there is objective truth.
belipo 2 years ago
What's wrong with reading the King James Bible cover to cover? Sure, it's a dull at parts, but it's a great way to make an atheist. So few people have read the thing, which is probably why so many believe in it.
DauntlessNullifidian 2 years ago 2
Reading the Old Testament didn't make me stop believing in god, but it made me question his morality.
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
The first thing that struck me was: How could God be immoral? Doesn't that contradict the whole "god is good" bit? Second, I started actually thinking about the stories and wondering how they were possible. I started wondering about how species got all over the place if Noah's boat was stuck on a mountain. The stories contradicted what I knew about the world from direct observation, and that sparked my journey to Reason.
DauntlessNullifidian 2 years ago
I always wondered....If god could create great and entertaining authors, why couldn't he BE one?
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
@KraiseeDAtheist Perhaps because without faith god is nothing, and evidence removes the need for faith? Doing anything to give indication that god exists negates god's existence by god's own rules. If the bible proves the existence of god, then by those rules god doesn't exist.
`Oh dear, says God, `I hadnt thought of that, and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
The argument from Douglas Adams really does answer that one best, I think.
Maybe god just couldn't get a publisher. Heh
DauntlessNullifidian 1 year ago
Both links appear to be broken.
BlasphemyChannel 2 years ago
belief does not necessarily entail truth apprehension.
knowledge does.
mandangalo18 2 years ago
I really do prefer Valley of the dolls..............much better read x
6dazey9 2 years ago
Quickest road to atheism ....... objectively read the "Buy Bull", end of story,
brklynusa 2 years ago
I sometimes wonder what the alien bible might look like! It's probably a book full of scientific formulas, and they are probably all actually demonstrably correct.
Zaunstar 2 years ago
@Zaunstar I don't think aliens would have a Bible. But they might have story books for their kids about weird hominoids out at the edge of the galaxy who did have a Bible...
landfillpoet 2 years ago
The Exodus DID happen!!!!!!!!!! What planet are you on?
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
Please list one source of archeological evidence that the Exodus occurred outside of your Bible. Good luck ;)
WCWMondayNitroOnYT 2 years ago 3
5 days later and still no source? 2 million people leave...you would think somebody besides Moses would write that shit down.
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
Why would you need to read all the other religion's writings when yours is the true religion?
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron But how else could you evaluate the verasity of your religion without adequately understanding your own? Besides, the vast majority of Christians have never read the Bible in its entirety. Thus, they are believing in something they can't even evaluate for themselves.
landfillpoet 2 years ago 2
You make the undeniable mistake of assuming that Christians evaluate anything. There is a reason they are called sheep. If they do look at the evidence objectively (and definite lack thereof), they will do just like all of the former Christians and become non-believers.
WCWMondayNitroOnYT 2 years ago
@WCWMondayNitroOnYT Good point. Way to pwn me.
landfillpoet 2 years ago
Angie, you say that "Faith and belief do not equal knowledge"
Is this an objective truth?
belipo 2 years ago
belipo It's a definitional truth. The definitions in our language of "believe" and "know" are not the same concept. Quit being a turd.
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
Is this absolutley true without being subject to any objection?
belipo 2 years ago
@belipo - Of course not. Words are not "objectively true" in the way you refer to. They are created by us, for us, and our tools for communicating. They change over time. (Seen anyone writing "ye" a whole late lately?) Again, quit being a turd. You know this shit; you're just being obtuse.
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
@Angie And THIS ^^^^ is why we love you!
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
Why is the bible supposed to be so great? I don't get it. If it had given tips on animal husbandry or crop rotation or basic medicine and cleanliness rather than getting hung up on pork and sin, it may have been of some use. As Angie says, it contradicts itself and there is nothing in it to suggest that it wasn't written by desert dwellers trying to make sense of their middle eastern world.
yiggoto 2 years ago
The Bible and Christianity as a whole are considered so "great" in this time period because the vast majority are Christian. Just as in the times of the Roman Empire, Paganism ( I know this is a gross generalization to encompass all Pagan religions) was seen as the "great" religion. Just as that time passed, so will Christianity's. Our future generations will be blessed indeed when that occurs.
WCWMondayNitroOnYT 2 years ago
"Behold on the first day god created hydrogen and an expanding universe, he then rested for a few billion years, popped back to create life on a backwater in one of the millions of galaxies called Earth and then disappeared off again until he created Adam out of some dust. Then he wrote a book".
yiggoto 2 years ago
Anyone who can read the Bible cover to cover and still believe it to be the absolute truth is not reading it objectively. The claim that "you if you seek God with Sincerity that the Lord will reveal himself to you" is to say that I believe that God did it and no matter what evidence there is to the contrary. It is about as valid as saying that someone who once believed and is now an Atheist "was never truly a Christian."
Good video...
brokensoul70 2 years ago
You got a space between the J and D on your link, but I figured it out:
watch?v=38WXrGpJDCQ
zarkoff45 2 years ago
Angie... I am so happy I found you :). I came home from a down day... I go to a Catholic school. But, its just nice to see someone who thinks like me, and thinks in terms of reality and critical thinking. Thanks for just being you :)
alexma63 2 years ago
@alexma63 You're not alone :)
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
I'd never heard of the Skeptics Annotated Bible. I just went there and fell in love. This is the most amazing resource. If for no other reason, you are awesome for turning me on to that. (You're awesome for other reasons too.)
landfillpoet 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The Skeptics bible is extraordinarily ignorant .
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron Well thanks for the opinion. I will continue to enjoy the Skeptics Bible. And what basis do you have for the Exodus? You have the Bible, a book so riddled with inaccuracies that it can't even get itself right. A lot of modern archeologists, like Ze'ev Herzog, think the story is bunk, because there's little evidence to support it. And no, the Bible doesn't count.
landfillpoet 2 years ago
Yeh, the Bible does count, and I say the Skeptics Bible is ignorant largely because it depends on a christological reading of the Old Testament.They basiclaly deal with how Christians interpret key Old Testament passages and then assume they've somehow refuted the Old Testament. But Christians are morons, and it's not their book!
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron Ah, thanks for the clarification. Sorry for before. Now that you mention it, that does seem to be true, but I am doing it mainly for the humor, so that plays right into my hands!
landfillpoet 2 years ago
#Skeptics Annotated Bible is the best :)
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
@AngieAntiTheist
Thomas Jefferson bible is good to.
I love it when Christians say Thomas Jefferson was a christian because he had a bible lol
He removed the resurrection the divine conception and all the angels and miracles. Hilariously Jesus dies on the cross and then it ends there lol no resurrection lol.
jjason55740 2 years ago 2
@jjason Like "Life of Brian" and "Jesus Christ Superstar!" Okay yes, my examples were more plebeian.
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
Jefferson said "There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man. I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter which is evidently his, and which is as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill." (ref. wikipedia) Diamonds in a dunghill...no wonder his bible is only 46 pages.
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
@KraiseeDAtheist
yep but there still are Christians who use his bible as evidence for Jefferson being "christian" They call it a
"revised" or standardized bible but in fact it is censored bible. They say he took out all the dogma and supernatural stuff to make it more suitable for the native American culture which is bullshit because Indians already had divine revelation,conception, and intervention already accepted in there culture for thousands of years prior.
jjason55740 1 year ago
@jjason sad but true. they make up "evidence" for whatever they want to believe as they go along.
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
I'm glad that you're able to see what a load of shit the Bible truly is! I spent countless hours, days, months, and years reading it thinking and believing with all my heart, mind, body, and "soul" that it was the true Word of God as did you. I tried to reconcile talking snakes, the two chapters in Genesis, a talking donkey, Jesus's failed prophecies, etc, etc, etc. Eventually you just have to say ENOUGH! and admit what a piece of bullshit artifact the Bible truly is and that there is no god.
WCWMondayNitroOnYT 2 years ago
Cool assertions. Can you elaborate on each claim? Message me!
belipo 2 years ago
You apparently were not "thinking" with all your mind, because the first couple of chapters of Genesis are CLEARLY not literal.
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
Of course...If the Bible is proven wrong through modern science, it magically turns into an allegory. You can be certain that thousands of years ago when that story was written, it certainly wasn't taken as anything but literal. As modern science continues to grow and we learn more, the Bible is shown more and more as the ignorant writings of desert dwellers that it truly is.
WCWMondayNitroOnYT 2 years ago 3
WHY do you make the claim that the "first couple of chapters of Genesis are CLEARLY not literal", while there is so much contention regarding its interpretation, by believers?
IS the latter passage from (Ex: 19:4 "You yourselves have seen what I DID to Egypt, and how I carried you on EAGLES' WINGS and brought you to myself"), "CLEARLY not literal"?
WHAT gives you the authority to determine what is literal and what is "CLEARLY not..."?
whyiswhat 2 years ago
@whyiswhat There is no such "contention" among Jews, and Jews wrote the damn book. What would ignorant Christians know? And yes, Exodus 19:4 is clearly a metaphor and an anthropomorphism.
In fact, the Christians who take these things literally are a tiny little minority of crackpots living with tinfoil hats.
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
WHY don't I try to make myself more clear?
IS the portion of the quote (Ex: 19:4 "You yourselves have seen what I DID to Egypt...) ", "CLEARLY metaphor"?
WHAT is the point of claiming there is a god, who has sent a book of directly dictated instructions, if the portion of the quote I highlighted, is according to your standards, just metaphor?
whyiswhat 2 years ago
@whyiswhat
Exodus 19:4 is not a metaphor, the Exodus really did happen. But the reference to eagle wings most definitely was a metaphor because the Jews did not go out of Egypt on eagle's wings. What is non-literal is the pre-Abrahamic section of the book of Genesis. This is not something I just made up out of my backside, this is well known in the Jewish tradition.
By the way, I'm not suggesting the Genesis creation account is just a quaint little children's story. It's not.
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
mycatisamoron,
You wrote: " And yes, Exodus 19:4 is clearly a metaphor ..."
You also wrote: "Exodus 19:4 is not a metaphor,..."
It seems to me that you have contradicted your own assertions.
MENCADO 1 year ago
Sorry, I mistyped ~ I meant "the Exodus (the event) is not a metaphor" and that "Exodus 19:4 (the flying on eagle wings) is clearly a metaphor".
mycatisamoron 1 year ago
@whyiswhat The pre-Abrahamic part of Genesis is full of Kabbalistic symbolism which allude to deep spiritual truths. If anything, to look at these things as being literal and to ignore the spiritual truth behind them is to seriously distort and to render them completely meaningless.
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
I always encourage my friends to read the bible. Christian and otherwise. It's the strongest case for Atheism that I've ever come across.
Great video.
seriouslymatsteele 2 years ago 2
correction^^ i mean their authority
aednil 2 years ago
Great video Angie!
i hate it when people with academic titles (like this professor) use only they authority to talk foolish people into faith with even more foolish "arguments"
aednil 2 years ago
@aednil Oh I strongly doubt he is a real professor. I just figure it's like me signing letters to Congress as Rev. Angie.
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
I doubt he's Scottish too, lol.
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
He started off with this crazy pseudo scottish accent but has since dropped it.
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
@AngieAntiTheist , ok he´s definitely not a professor (at least not in the academic sense of the word (after checking the viedeo and his profile-page))
aednil 2 years ago
He isn't a prof. he is a man who suffers from delusions of grandeur. In one of his earlier vids (now removed) he claimed that Newton and Einstein were only half right and he fixed their work. of course there was no referrence to peer reviewed work he had done. It's my guess he's some poor sod flipping burgers or some equally intelectually demanding work in some podunk town and street preaching in his off time.
KraiseeDAtheist 1 year ago
Awesome video, Angie!
astrobiologist 2 years ago
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Why would anyone make up the story of Moses? Political reason? Sounds unlikely to me.
owchywawa 2 years ago
@owchywawa It's not that it was made up, just very heavily exaggerated.
VERY exaggerated. Chances are it was a local flood that the people living there saw as a world ending flood, considering that small area was their entire world. Then the story was passed down and, just like every other story passed down before the inventing of writing, details were changed/exaggerated.
p2umpkin 2 years ago
@p2umpkin, what does the flood have to do with Moses? That was Noah who built the ark, and the story of Noah is most definitely not a literal event but a parable (and no, I'm not making that up because of "science"; it's always been understood that way right up until Archbishop Unger startes the retarded biblical literalist movement).
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron Actually, the Noah story was part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, and was written as fiction. It isn't a parable for anything.
ScottJanssen 2 years ago
@ScottJanssen Sorry, but if you read the Epic of Gilgamesh you'll see that it has nothing in common wih the story of Noah except a flood. Other than that, they're completely different stories.
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron A flood, an ark, etc. It is part of the story as indicated by George Smith.
ScottJanssen 2 years ago
Jewish people needed a folk hero. Doesn't matter if he was real or not. He may or may not be based on a real person that existed, no way to know. What is important is there isn't any evidence any supernatural events really occurred regarding this story.
fractal420 2 years ago
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"What is important is there isn't any evidence any supernatural events really occurred regarding this story."
What more evidence can we have than from literature? Unless you mean the Egyptians could have also written about how a god defeated him, but I doubt you would accept that any more than the Bible, so... *shrugs*
owchywawa 2 years ago
There may have been a guy named Moses, maybe he even had sibs named Aaron & Miriam. But there was no parting of the red sea, no ten plagues in Egypt, no exodus, no evidence that there was ever even Jewish slavery within Egypt as described in the Bible! Don't even get me started on the Ten Commandments. Just go listen to George Carlin's take on that top ten list.
AngieAntiTheist 2 years ago
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Why do you trust comedians rather than scholars? I would suggest scholarly sources rather than a comedian. Not saying you rely entirely on comedians. But come one.
belipo 2 years ago
Why would you be a pretentious asshat? You know that is not was the suggested/implied/said.
infinit888 2 years ago
ah @belipo - there's a sense where any scholar taking the bible seriously is already half comedian.
but also think about what real comedians are meant to do, they tell us the truth in an unusual way to make us laugh.
the idea of a loving god that sends you to hell has the joke built right in!
or have you heard the one about the god who was active in the OT but now hides behind coincidence?
The Emperor has no clothes, it doesn't take a scholar to point that out, a child can do it.
Gordonisgreat 2 years ago
Where is your argument?
Are you a psuedoscholar or something?
belipo 2 years ago