Margaret Thatcher's historic third electoral victory (1987)

[dermotoblong]

thanks, i havent thought of that! (not particularly articulate, but straight to the point ;) )

[dermotoblong]

deluded right wing cunts

[polytide51]

@dermotoblong you should put that on a bumper sticker

[Dendiol]

What a legend she was

[densaner77]

Poll Tax, Mass Unemployment, High Inflation and interest rates, selling off of national assets to foreign multinationals, rampant greed, an economy built on sand. Yep she was a legend alright. A total f'king legend!

[403766]

@densaner77

Actually they were FAR lower than when she came in, and the economy was actually paying off debt and had SAVED our economy from the joke it was in the 70's when labour ran it. I cannot be fucked to explain economics to you, so please please can you and all your labour supporters please open a fucking textbook and come back and admit your wrong becausse there are just too many ignorant twats to teach here, and its all your fault our country is going to the shits....

[densaner77]

@403766. No thanks. I don't really want a lesson in economics from someone like you. Nor do I need one. If anyone is an "ignorant twat" it is you. A typical tory who thinks that your way is the only way. Ever hear of 1 Million Unemployed? 3 Million Unemployed? The Barber Boom? The Dash for Growth? Black Wednesday? You tory fuckers need to take a look at your own history in government before lecturing anyone on economic mismanagement.

[403766]

@densaner77

You clearly fucking do, as you cannot get it through your head that all labour have ever done is borrow money to hand out benefits, which is what all arguements will lead back too, and poor tories have to come in and clean up the mess.

Seriously there are no labour economists because you have no idea how it works.

Blame yourself for this country going to shit

[densaner77]

@403766. Typical right wing rabble rouser. Economists are like assholes, everybody's got one. Labour had to clean up after Maudling and Barber. Privatisation, Black Wednesday, Dash for Growth, the Barber Boom and Lawson's boom. These are examples of right wing chicanery when it comes to economics. The Tories hand out benefits. Benefits to multi-national corporations and the like. The country is going to shit because of this government. Headed of course by the Tories!

[dermotoblong]

@403766 youre not a name....just a number

[403766]

@dermotoblong

Was that meant to even mean anything?

ANY economist will tell you, new labour are the most incompetent government in Britain EVER when it comes to government spending and economic management, which is why we are in such a mess.

[dermotoblong]

@403766 you seem to have some sort of fixation with economists? i dont give a shiny shite what economists think. youll never find two that say the same thing anyway. keep watching your fan vids of thatch

[fleemonstay]

wherefucking pt.2

[escortmk112]

Has to be the most hated Pm ever. must have been the biggest hateter of the working class in history. It is a fact that she won several elections There were then as now some dumb ass people around to vote for a Tory How can anyone forget the school milk she stole the miners stike poll tax NHS she and the Tory party seem to hate so much and want to destroy. Wake up people of GB and never vote for the worst party ever .

[DrStrangebomb1993]

@escortmk112 If you were slightly less incoherent I might actuallly bother to divine what the fuck you're trying to tell us.

[escortmk112]

@DrStrangebomb1993 Not my problem if you dumd ass Tory

[DrStrangebomb1993]

@escortmk112 I do believe it's "dumb", not "dumd", but yes, you've just done a wonderful job of proving to the world how a typical labour supporter thinks - or fails to think.

[escortmk112]

@DrStrangebomb1993 I fell into that one . I am not a NEW labour voter that is a fact.

[ukipwarrior]

We need Maggie Part 2

[painin2teeth]

@ukipwarrior I am sorry to say that there will never be a part 2.  Too many lazy and narrow minded people

[Heylen94]

Marvellous woman beyond the given recognition. She provided an idealistic role model for myself, persevering in a era of bigoted attitudes. I adore her ideaology and herself. Long may she live.

[sasua741]

LONG LIVE THATCHER

[tmvga]

History has proven Thatcher correct about the state and the EU. The statist and world governments advocates call her opposition to these poicies a blunder, but history has proven her right! The statist and world government people will never drop their religion and must lie to about history to achieve their aims.

[countrylifterdw]

Reagan, Thatcher, John Paul the Second- we need those leaders again.

[abhudson14]

how did this bloody awfull woman win 3 election she brought this country down

[DrStrangebomb1993]

@abhudson14 Maybe because dimwits like you who thought she was awful were in a minority?

[abhudson14]

@DrStrangebomb1993 look im no dimwit but this was the wores Prime Minister this country has had I remeber I was there not like you im 41 not 17 like you

[DrStrangebomb1993]

@abhudson14 She cleaned up the mess the inept Labour government had made in the 1970s dude.

[abhudson14]

@DrStrangebomb1993 you dont know what your taking about just remeber I was around then

[403766]

@abhudson14

So what if you were around then, the FACT is that she cleaned up the mess labour made whoever took over (like now) had a horrible job ahead of them and was bound to be hated by many, but you must thank here for practically making this country a competitive economic power again.

[abhudson14]

@403766 what a load of bollocks she was the wores pm this country has had brought us to our kness

[403766]

@abhudson14

in what slightest wya did she do that hater, if you knew anything about economics you would know she was almost alwyas right, and if you had common sense you would see the state labour left us in and that whoever took voer was havign to make drastic changes, but she brought us bakc to the top, so explainyourself or do u just love to hate?

[abhudson14]

@403766 at least give a fair chance for everyone so dont knock them you ungrearfull sods this country was at its best from 1997 till that toser cameron took over. As for that bitch Thatcher have you got a sort memorey or what she shited on every work in this country like minors, steal workers, health services workers and railworks. and im sure bloody cameron will try and run down this country look at all these unnessery cuts his started doing and undoing the good work labour had done

[403766]

@abhudson14

Please tell me that was a joke right?

1)That country was at its best becuase the labour morons sp[ent mindless amounts of money WE DIDNT HAVE, which anyone cud hav done, this was once the tories had made a surplus for the first time in ages in 1992, wtf LABOUR WAS SO SHIT BLAIR REISGNED BECAUSE HE WAS SO SHIT, all labour did was create a huge debt then leav the tories to clean it up(again)

2)Those private industires were amount the worst in the world, all subsidised

[403766]

@abhudson14

to the point that britain was no longe r aocmpetitive nation, she literally saved britian to being lik greece is now and improved YOUR stnadard of living from again the massive debt shit unreaistics methods by labou caused and that is FACT.

3)How the fuck are those cuts unnessisary were over a trillion in debt growing by hundred + billion each year you fuckin retad e hav to make huge cuts due to LABOUR makin us a weak nationonce again, all they did was borrow was too much

[abhudson14]

@403766 Dont call the best Prime minster this country has had and the best day in this counrty will be the Millaband becomes pm and has to tidy up the mess Camerom doing. As for the cuts if needed why dont this uncaring tory take a cut in wages no they dont give a shit about this country has long as there allright fuck everyone elses. bye

[403766]

@abhudson14

Are you sure you haven't got labour and tories mixed up?

[abhudson14]

@403766 no

[403766]

@abhudson14

cameron has made no mess...

i reallly dnt think a cut in their pay will make an impact on the TRILLION + and gowing debt this country has, you simply do not understand economics, right wing is the onyl way to make a country money

[abhudson14]

@403766 BULL SHIT he's made a right mess dont watch the news look at all theses strikes on thursday making theses hard working people work more for less pension. As for him taking a cut in wage I know that was a joke he sooner take in from the poor the robbing bastasrd him and George Osbourne want locking up for shiiting on us hard workers. Anyway its only 3years and 10 months till wew can get rid of theses fucking govement

[403766]

@abhudson14

Alright, sorry for being a twat earlier, but I respectfully disagree that you understand how this works..

The FACT is that cameron didn;t jst think "I know why not piss everyone off and loose votes by cutting jobs" , he HAS to lower the deficit to stop our country from goin bankrupt BECAUSE OF LABOUR SPENDING 4 TRILLION WE DIDN'T HAVE! So there we are, it is not EVEN SLIGHTLY (not even 0.000001%) Camerons fault, surely u undrstn tat labour hav awful economy management...

[abhudson14]

@403766 i know how cameron works and its not right for the country. next time you go down the paper shop do what i do buy a daily mirror

[MasterlyApprentice]

@abhudson14 I wouldn't buy the Daily Mirror again. The rubbish you read in that thing is mind boggling. I remember reading it during the election campaigns, and the closest they ever got to giving readers a genuine reason to NOT vote Tory was some bloke in a chicken suit bursting in on a Tory MP as he ate his breakfast.

[abhudson14]

@MasterlyApprentice the daily mirror quaity paper and ive load of reason why i will never vote tory the main one is i care about this country and i want to do whats besr for this country

[MasterlyApprentice]

@abhudson14 Judging by your previous comments you're either trolling or you really do have no clue what you're talking about.

1) Thatcher left the country richer and stronger - read a book for once

2) The Mirror is a tabloid newspaper with ridiculously left-wing ideals - again, read a book instead.

3) Tories clean up the mess left by Labour every time they get in, so if you care for the country, vote Tory. again, read a book and find the facts.

Mate, just read a book.

[painin2teeth]

@MasterlyApprentice You are great! I am so pleased to see that some people have a mind of their own. Too many people are brain washed.

[painin2teeth]

@MasterlyApprentice Very interesting to read this. I live in the U.S.A. and sadly we have the same issue. All the left -wing bias. The papers all all full of it. Most people are just not intelligent enough to look beyond the very obvious junk and are afraid of being "out of the mainstream" by questioning the silly left-wing junk

[justicepartyuk]

Bring down coalition government, it had been disaster. Arshad Khan will help to get you re-elected with working majority. click Justice party UK.

[cheapy2006]

filthy friedmanite WHOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!

[agemangirl1919]

I am a humble uneducated Japanese and I am currently reading the book she wrote - the Downing Street Years - which came out many, many years ago.

I agree that she would have been tempted to give the story from her own perspective and to defend her ways, but the book still contains many facts.

Britain indeed have problems. Those she inherited, she did not create. What would have happened if she did not take them on board? All her successors owe great deal to her.

[Galacticmaster]

we need another strong woman character in britain,

not a namby pamby woman like harman, or a black woman like cambridge crap diane abbot.

but a woman of normal circumstances who can put the house in order.

[Heylen94]

Perfection that's what the lady was Perfection. Full of perseverance and integrity i pay tribute to a wonderful leader as well as a Wonderful woman.

[abhudson14]

what a disater for this country Dont let Cameron in again he might be worse than this uncaring old bag

[MRwonderman1]

WEll... On a lighter note. Could anyone tell me what piece of music is playing here? I think it's great :P

[darioso5]

Murderer of 900 Argentinian boys.

[rday18]

@darioso5 Oh shut up

[daviddoyle1978]

Thatcher displayed a side of femininity which is rarely seen in modern media. As such, she doesn't conform to the feminine sterotype. However, she did demonstrate a type of womanhood which still has the power to compete with a male dominated political establishment. This has nothing to do with homosexuality.

[DracoMalfoy87]

In the United States, Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, and Michele Bachman just don't fit in with men in politics like Thatcher did

[painin2teeth]

@daviddoyle1978 So true. I think she is amazing!

[pix042]

I suppose from a Malthusian angle more homosexuality will reduce the population!

[PeteGeeza86]

Was the council tax more for gays? Gays are so hard done by.

Im not gay,but feel for gays because of the unusual way they have to have sex and how people take the micky oout of them for it.

Just let them get on with it-but as long as it's not shown on TV...

[gianniversace08]

I'm gay and that was an Ignorant comment.

[LS8492]

Margaret Thatcher made history being the first woman prime minister in Europe.

[chapmasi]

Wish this lady could came back to sort out yet another Labour mess, ironically very much like the 70's. Strikes, possible power cuts and the country in a shit load of Debt.

The only people who hate Thatcher are the lazy, the idle or those who dont understand how an economy works

May you live long Lady Thatcher, your a legend

[DracoMalfoy87]

I'm American and it seems like the US in the 70s was in the same sort of "Labor Party" trouble like Britain was in the 70s and Ronald Reagan turned the country around the exact same way Thatcher did. Now I hear Britain is becoming socialist again under Blair and Brown, and even the United States is becoming socialist under Obama. Get it through your heads - socialism doesn't work...ever!

[YodaVanGrindey95]

@chapmasi There was no strikes like there are now in the last labour government!

[gc7820]

@chapmasi Damn right! The old labour party are bone idle idiots, the New Labour party were borderline fascists and bone idle idiots. The best Primeminister we ever had!

[painin2teeth]

@chapmasi Well said. I love your comment. It is the only sensible comment I have ever seen on a Thatcher clip. You are so right. Most people do not see the whole picture. All they can do is ask for handouts . The freedom to work and earn is a lot more powerful than the little handouts that make us weaker.

[trip3newton]

I love Maggie Thathcher! I wish she was back to sort this mess out. It nearly makes me cry to see Gordon Brown and Labour leading this country.

[gregorioallegri]

I remember one of the 'Mac' cartoons in The Daily Mail in 2007 when Brown was inviting her to Downing Street and the headlines were also buzzing with news of an 'Eternal Youth Pill'. It portrayed Thatcher bursting into number 10, announcing she was on the new Eternal Youth medication and that Brown should pack his bags. If only it were true!

[brilliantfranz]

she´s deaf aint she?

[moroseo]

Catholicism777- In answer to your question. The two main things that brought her down were her views on Europe, In my opinion which were correct, but she was very anti Europe compared to Geoffrey Howe and Nigel Lawson. Which made her relationship with them very bad. She also backed the "poll tax"- a new way of getting council tax, where everyone over the age of 18, property owning or not would have to pay a fixed rate for their serives, poorer people would get a discount.

[sonofcy]

@moroseo

If she was so anti-europe then why did she sign the Single European Act? That document ended the supremacy of centuries of Parliamentary democracy.

[moroseo]

Anyone know what the music theme in this is, especially evident at around 0.45??????????

[PeteGeeza86]

What did Thatcher do for gay men?

[thatcheritescot]

thather herself i will admit was not particularly gay friendly..... but she was not anti gay either..... section 28 was about teaching in schools.... i will acept that thatcher was wrong but she was also of her time..... my main point is that because of thatchers policys if individualism and freedom in the economy the 80s were a great deal better for gay people than any time before..... just one of  a few of the things that boomed in her time

[mickyh234]

Was she wrong to stop the PROMOTION of homosexuality in schools? I hardly see that this is a bad thing. they're getting children to write essays on it now or even imagine themselves as being gay. i see that they may actually, due to the abnormal level of emphasis put upon it, and the forced regard for it as normal that they may falsely believe themselves to be homosexual or even wish to be simply because they think that those in authority who they look up to may want them to be.

[thatcheritescot]

she was wrong to stop it all together... look im gay and im not even keen on it being taught in schools. but having said that i dont think it ,matters either.... she made herself look unfriendly to a large section of the population.... that was a mistake.... but i still love her and i still believe in most of her views

[mickyh234]

she used the wrong word actually, she should have specified, "taught" instead of "promoted" because that would have made her intentions more obvious and promoted is too ambiguous since it does not accomplish much at all since there are too many ways around it. as for being unfriendly, I think this can be taken on different levels, you can be gay friendly in a passive "i don't mind" sort of way. the other way is to take away the freedom to disaprove entirely as Labour have done.

[thatcheritescot]

to b honest i dont really think it should b taught to very young children but i also dont care.... thatcher was of an older generation... i can understand where she vwas coming from.... gay people sometimes only remember section 28 and not the fact that mrs thatcher made it easyier for everyone to b a bit more individual.... gays included

[BungleZippie]

Thats a bit dramatic! Schools are for education and not to enforce opinions. I don't believe for one minute that educating someone about an aspect of human life makes them into that very thing. Thats an odd way to look at it. Either your inclined or your not. Inventing social convetions as the norm is hardly helpful when avioding dogmatic ignorance!

My sex and social education under the Conservatives was terrible as teachers ignored it. High STD, teen mothers, bullying and suicide result.

[mickyh234]

First, whoever said that STD'S were reserved for straight people? There is no evidence that its' transmission is lower in homosexuals, second there is a far higher rate of teen mothers now than under previous governments, third, the reason it was lower was because of the disapprobation of society. Finally, look at the Hitler youth, they were taught to hate a group of people and so they did, whoever said that the opposite is not also possible.

[BungleZippie]

Who said they were reserved for anyone?Plus I never said teen mothers was higher under Conservatives, just that poor education has always had a knock on effect on society. It was bad when I received it and I imagine it still is. Our figures are worse than other, deemed liberal, parts of europe on nearly everything.

I see dogmatic indoctrination and education differently. Refusing to speak or teach on an aspect of real life is avoiding education in favour of a 'policy'.

[BungleZippie]

Plus in reality section 28 was awful because many artists, writers and social reformers were not taught in general because they were homosexual to aviod questions about them and their work so as not to be seen as 'promoting' them. Real ignorant stuff. Classics like E. M Forester, Oscar Wilde and a host of other Poets, Social Reformers and Civil Rights Activists were glossed over. But the governments have no issue promoting religion, 'faith' doctrine and aload of other nonsense.

[timo6170]

@mickyh234 do you honestly believe that nonsense?? i actually just laughed out loud when i read your viewpoint.

gay awareness in schools is about acceptance. gay teenagers are the single most likely demographic to commit suicide because of harassment in school. it is important for schools to address this issue and make it clear that gay students are in a difficult position due to their biological sexual orientation.

to think that schools are attempting to teach students to be gay is ludicrous

[timo6170]

@mickyh234 but i should also say that i love margaret thatcher.. i don't even know much about her stance on social issues like the one we're discussing, but i have studied her economic policies and think they're very good

[heidegger89]

Um, supported decriminalisation of gay sex and relationships, while members in both the Labour and Conservative party were opposed to the idea...

[unrealharry]

Gay people before the 70s were mostly arrested so im not sure.. Well if you was caught.

[gianniversace08]

If you were caught

[BungleZippie]

Yes thats true what heidegger said she did vote to have homosexuality decriminalised because even though she may have had personal reservations, I am not sure she did really, she was a libertarian at heart as much as she was a conservative. She believed individuals should be free to lead and run their own lives without state sanction as far as possible.

Section 28 was added to the local gov bill in haste by social conservatives. The party had rejected it as a seperate law before this.

[Catholicism777]

what was the policy which led to her downfall??? please someone tell me? its like ripping the last page out of a book...

[UnitedBritannia]

The policy referred to here is the Poll Tax - aka The Community Charge. It was a policy which meant everyone payed an equal amount of council tax (used to fund local services and government). It was designed to alleviate the tax burden on home owners who had hitherto been the only individuals that payed council tax, but it was hugely unpopular.

[Catholicism777]

ooooo ouch. bad choice after lettin so many people buy their council homes. well thank looooads for telling me ur a legend.

[goughrmp]

@UnitedBritannia It is interesting though that the community charge is a far fairer policy than council tax because everyone contributes.

[alexpjp]

@UnitedBritannia and she was right the whole way along!

[seppsters]

@UnitedBritannia

Also, Europe.

[thatcheritescot]

i wish she wasnt so unwell..... if it was up to the tory membership she prob would be made leader again..... could u imagine gordon brown vs margaret thatcher.... would b no contest..... love u maggie

[mickyh234]

She'd shred him to pieces, boil him, consume the ashes and then compain it was overcooked. Something I would very much enjoy seeing. I agree, it is a pity she is unwell because she was a one off and noone else can do what she could.

[thatcheritescot]

she would indeed it would b great to watch....

[marcussalieri]

we miss you margaret come back to explain us what to do

[LS8492]

Maggie Back for PM!!!!!!

[BungleZippie]

She has Dementia now I doubt thats really possible!

[LS8492]

Hahhah, yeah! :)

[billydeeuk]

BungleZippie: She'd still be better than Gordon "Clunking Fist" Brown or David "Call me Dave" Cameron.....and this is coming from someone who didn't even like Thatcher

[AfghansWorld]

she is basically fucked!

[JimmyThatcher]

Thatcher on stricyly come dancing.....

[citroenfanatic]

nice find..