oh and retards jumping round like they are playing Halo... I actually miss soldier of fortune 2 and counterstrike.. At least in those games people used decent tactics and you needed skill to actually play.
SO far every game of MW3 I have played has been noobtubes, quickscopes and that stoooooopid overpowered shotgun.. Getting blasted from clean across the map with a shotgun is fuckin ridiculous, especially when grenades are like party poppers in comparison..
Apart from the "javelin spam" I fail to see much difference with MW2.. At least in Balck Ops I managed to get games with people who wanted to use skill instead of overpowered brute force.
Well shotguns on MW3 are primaries and that is confirmed. In my honest opinion, shotguns as primaries won't make that much of a difference from MW2 because in MW3 they now have the perk "Overkill". Therefore you can have one Sub Machine Gun, Assault Rifle, LMG, or Sniper Rifle and still considerably have a shotgun as a "Secondary" even though it's not technically considered a secondary. So basically it hasn't really changed at all in my opinion. I will admit though it is more balanced then MW2.
@die4alife Yeah I was glad to see overkill back then you have to give up a perk to have a decent secondary, It'll be interesting to see if there's conflicting perks. Cod4 it was in the same tier as stopping power, Havn't heard whether that's back or not but hopefully they make overkill a hard choice to make. I think the shotguns were awesome in MW2 but I don't like them as secondaries they should be primaries
Black ops did shotguns and noob tubes right. There should be some sort of skill involved in getting kills.. Leave them out of MW3 and then it will be a pretty much perfect game.
demand that MW3 incorporates "choke tubes" to shotguns as unlockable attachments... a choke tube allows you to control how tight a pellet pattern is, in turn this will give shotguns the option for better range. Cause we dont have have buck/slug option.
I liked shotguns in MW2. Because they were secondary. But in Black ops they were primary so i didn't use them so much. Cause you have submachine guns.
And know you have: sub machine and for secondary machine pistols.
So MW3 i guess the shotgun won't be so much used in this game.
My conclusion is: Make shotgun secondary!!!!!!!!!1
@xtosmartx My conclusion: Shotguns in MW2 were used because they wre so powerful! In BO the shotguns were nerfed, thats why almost no-one used them. In MW3 they are really powerful, don't see a reason to not use them.
People only leave the lobby because the AA-12 is just fucking pathetic. You don't need any skill to use it. Just slap it in a random noobs hand and it's bound to get a kill.
I agree though with almost everything that you said, but I lose respect for anyone that uses that piece of shit gun. I can deal with the commando, I can deal with the painkiller, I can deal with the last stand but when it comes to shit players running around with marathon and an AA-12 Mw2 can go fuck itself.
Hey the About that harrier/chopper comment... even though harriers have an airstrike i believe they no longer have flares but choppers do... so yeah...
Yes shotguns are primaries. But, there is a perk called Overkill which allows you to carry 2 primary weapons like in COD4.. so you can carry your primary Spas and an SMG etc
I don't see the issue with them as a secondary. It's not much different than the 2 main guns perk in 4, forget the name atm. Plus, it's not like you can switch to the shotguns quickly like you can with pistols.
I have the backwards idea. make shotguns suck like in black ops, but put them as secondaries. In real life they are usually put on a soldier's back for when breaching. If the shotguns had reduced range then new players would flock to them only to find that the shotgun is more of a last resort weapon, rather than a full-on assault powerhouse on your switch. Also, black ops SPAS = what MW2 SPAS should have been.
Just for the record, I don't think that MW2's weapons are overpowered, think about it in real life you would die every time that you die in the game. Nothing overpowered about it. ;D
specializing in shotguns i think they should be primaries but they should be balanced like the mw2 shottys i think the black ops ones are way underpowered
I think the shotguns in CoD4 and WaW were the best. Weapons in the new Modern Warfare are unbalanced and take no skill to use. The game is too user friendly. The weapons in CoD4 excluding the M16 were probably the best in the series yet. The guns shouldn't have no recoil and be too overpowered that killing opponents just takes a limited amount of skill. Shotguns should remain as primary weapons and should only be slightly tweaked so they are not outclassed by every other weapon in the game.
@M16Ben It's too overpowered. I found I did better with it than I did if I used the AK-47 and I am more skilled with tht Assault Rifle in my opinion. Luckily, not many people used it in the game.
I completely agree with everything you said, as uncreative as that sounds lol.
But that's always been my feelings about the shotguns, mw2 shotguns would have been just fine as primaries, and while the BO shotguns sucked as primaries, they might have done decent as secondaries.
As for the killstreaks, i do feel the stackable ones are more fun. They let you rush or do other fun things do get them, and you don't have to be in super try-hard mode every time you want to get a high killstreak
This would balance mw2 in terms of the shotguns. Decrease power or range of spas 12 and decrease clip size of the aa12(or take out aa12 entirely). Buff the model1887 because after the first nerf they put on it it became useless.Take away akimbo from rangers. Now we just need to convince them the shotguns are worthy of being a primary and to get rid of the machine pistols. The only secondary should be the pistols/handguns. Its called a secondary for a reason. Its not supposed to be good.Nice Vid
@XxXsmok3w33d4ly420Xx *Facepalm* The guns that are secondaries shouldnt be good. Its a secondary not a second primary. You shouldnt be able to go secondary only and be able to pull off a great sscore unless your actually good. They are supposed to be bad.
Haha... actually commando trumps shotguns, including the AA-12 in many scenarios... I can't tell me how many times I (and other little kids) have screamed out, "You can't fucking knife me through a shotgun shot!!!"
I'm a big of the AA12. But in modern warfare 3 I hope that the shotguns will have a more realistic range of about 40-50 yards. The sad fact of modern warfare 2 the shotgun pellets simply disappear from existence after like 10 yards, lol. They fucked up the shotguns bad style.
I totally agree with you. Shotguns in MW3 should be as powerful as they were in MW3 but be primary weapons. As with the Attack Helicopter vs. the Harrier Strike, I like the Harriers better, but the Attack Helicopter stays in the air longer and it is more secretive of who it is going to kill because it does not look at you unlike the Harrier which will point at you when you are its target.
I pown with shotguns but you need a fully auto long range weapon as well. Assault rifle with a scope and a shotguns as secondary is the best combo for mw2 in my opinion. Good vids. =)
man you're dead set one of the most legit/fair/interesting commentators i've ever watched. i watched a bunch of your videos a month ago and forgot to sub and i found your channel again through ronaldinho and its now 2.30am and i'm still going through your past and present vids!
Shotguns should NOT be secondary! A shotgun is one of the most powerful gun you can carry in your hands! Maybe a sub-machine gun would get classified as a secondary.
Shotguns as secondaries were completely fine except for the prepatch models. If IW would have made the prepatch models as a primary, it would have been perfect in my opinion.
Shotguns should be primaries. All handguns should be 2 hit kills. And Shotguns should be somewhere between Black Ops and MW2. BO's shotties are kind of between COD 4 and MW2.
Oh, and no stacking killstreaks. It made killstreaks an aim, rather than benefit. 402 said on twitter they were making killstreaks and explosives more like support weapons rather than goals.
@OptimisticNihilistic I think killstreak rewards should be stackable. I play MW2 over Black Ops simply because MW2 has stackable killstreaks rewards while Black Ops does not. It is more fun with the stackable killstreak rewards.
@M16Ben Yes, the stackable Killstreaks are better. BUT, the Player Controlled Killstreaks such as the Chopper Gunner are too overpowered. Danger Close should not have an effect on the Killstreaks whatsoever and getting a Tactical Nuke isn't entirely difficult as using the Chopper is just too simple to get kills. I would prefer if they kept the 3, 5 & 7 set up from CoD4 because there weren't many problems there.
@xpantiesnifferx I definitely agree with you that Danger Close Pro should have not helped with the power of killstreak rewards. The nuke is not in MW3, so if someone gets an AC-130 or a Chopper Gunner, you don't need to worry about a nuke. I don't feel the Chopper Gunner and AC-130 were overpowered in MW2 simply because you can hide indoors and be safe for an AC-130 or put Cold-Blooded and a Stinger on and shoot down the Chopper Gunner.
@M16Ben I preferred the 3, 5 & 7 Killstreak Set-up in Call of Duty 4 and the fact that there was no Launchers with the Lock-On feature. Cold-Blooded is constantly exploited by campers who still go negative when they sit in a doorway with Akimbo Rangers. Killstreaks such as UAVs and Harriers should only be able to be placed within an area of the map (Like the Cobra in Black Ops). I just think with all the added features in the annual release of CoD games has ruined it completely. CoD2 & 4 = BEST!
@xpantiesnifferx I feel the killstreak rewards make COD unique to other FPS games. The killstreak rewards were balanced simply because of how easy they are to shoot down. Sure, COD4 (I never played COD2) was fun, but compared to MW2, isn't as fun for me, at least. Don't you have fun when you get a chopper gunner or AC-130? As for camping bitch with Rangers, the grenade launcher is there for a reason: to blast people like him who don't know how to play the game,
@M16Ben I've had so many AC130s and Chopper Gunners that I avoid using them in my Killstreak Set-up. As for the Grenade Launchers, they to are exploited by the use of One Man Army and Danger Close. I feel as though the game doesn't need them as it is unbalanced already. I would prefer to get kills whilst on the ground because the Killstreaks are just to simple to get kills with. I don't use any Killstreaks passed 8 apart from the Stealth Bomber. Sure my kill count isn't high but my k/d is good.
@xpantiesnifferx It seems to me you're bored of the COD series and require something new or you want something you once liked but haven't played in awhile. You don't have to use OMA and Danger Close with the grenade launcher. You can just put it on an assault rifle and use it when you need it. Just play the game you want to play it. I definitely see where you are coming from. I remember all the good times I used to have playing COD4. I'm sure MW3 will have a game mode that is like it.
@M16Ben Yes, CoD isn't as appealing is it used to be but I still play MW2 -.-. I guess I consider myself as a "legitimate' player as I don't use Grenade launchers, Commando and High Killstreaks etc. I play the game as fairly as possible. Sometimes I may use something that isn't classed as "fair", but others use it so I don't see why I can't.
@xpantiesnifferx Me too. I don't use Commando because I don't believe in knifing in a first person shooter. There seems to be a lot of attachments that do weird things such as increasing damage or decreasing recoil, so I don't use grenade launchers. I will still use high killstreaks because the enemy team always has the option to shoot it down or hide. Don't feel guilty if you put them on.
They tried to balance them out by making the harrier kill quicker, but the attack helicopter last longer and roam the map. Another thing to point out is that you dont have to place it, you just call it in like a UAV and your done.
Shotguns need to continue to be Primary's having a secondary shotgun is too powerful. I would love running around with an AA-12 as my Primary! Or even Model 1887's
High power shot guns like the spas and aa12 should be primaries. Weaker low ammunition and range shot guns should be secondary and scavenger should only replenish grenades and double primaries but not replenish any ammo
They should keep the powerful shotguns, make them a primary, and then bring overkill back. That way you don't have to worry about everyone having a shotgun and if they do use it, they have to give up another perk that could possibly be a powerful one in the same tier slot.
i think shotguns should not ever be brought back as a secondary... as a primary its fine but not as a secondary...its way to overpowered as a secondary
glad to see you playing MW2 I like Black ops but its too balance. The black ops weapons are too similar. MW2 is so fun to play really wished we can get Theater mode in MW3
@alfie0536 Actually, in America, it's the middle class that actually makes up most of the military. (since it's the biggest section of the USA.) I don't blame anyone for avoiding war at this point, since our country goes to war constantly these days.
@BobLoblaw1978 i normally dont subscribe to any1, but hearing your gerald butler voice captivates me lmao. I feel the same way you do about the shotguns, but with one slight dif, the spaz was my gun of choice. just because of the killing power and the range......and you dont have 2 reload the whole clip after one kill. anyways, i just watched 5 of your vids, good shit bro.
Stopping power doesn't need to come back. Stopping power was OP, ghost actually isn't (though it IS overused), but I think that's an argument for another time. I think what they should do with secondaries is either have machine pistols (probably not quite as good as the raffica) or make the standard pistols a little bit more powerful or easier to use.
I would lengthen the range a bit and make them primaries
AND MAKE PISTOLS MORE POWERFUL PLEASE! In MW2, if I really try-harded I could get good scores using only a pistol, and it was soooooo rewarding; in Black Ops, I can't do shit with them. Make them usable
They only thing that really ticked me off is the dual shotguns espically when the model was practically a machine gun since of range crap. But bringing back shottys for MW3 as a secondary is fine with me as long as DONT HAVE DUALS!
Yo bob, in response, i'll give it mw3 month, and if the game turns out amazing, i'll pick it up, but if people find a load of broken shit in the game, nah
I kind of want them as secondaries because like you said not that many people will carry stingers and i hate when i get a chopper or cobra and it gets taken down right away
sry i posted the comment b4 watching the video- well i like secondary shotguns, specially if u running a sniper or an LMG that have very poor hip fire and is very hard to get someone very close to you. i love running a shotgun in general with my RPD and also because shotguns where so effective u dont need Stoppoing power, so Scar-H extended Mag w/ a AA-12 Extended Mag and Hardline- and Scavenger, just a great class set up.
they should because like that people dont just carry 1 secondary, to be honst it was either the Python or some kind of launcher that they use on blackops. so if they should bring it, for maps like skidrow that you actually had a chance w/ a shotgun.
I don't have to tell you, I LOVE the shotguns from MW2. While people like to throw out the phrase "overpowered" a lot, honestly everything in MW2 was overpowered...hence nothing was. I like how it was set up because you could run around with a machine pistol or shotgun as a primary and still do well. It's like adding two primary categories. And while every gun in this game seems OP, every gun had its drawback. There was no one perfect weapon (cough...Black Ops FAMAS...cough).
Doesn't matter to me if they are primary or secondary, all I have to do is survive long enough to find a gun on the ground... BOOM instant overkill perk and/or secondary shotgun!
I think the helicopter stays in the air longer than the harrier kinda like the ac130 vs the copper cause the chopper lasts longer but is much easier to shoot down
did you know that if you use steady aim with a shotgun, (like you do in this video) you "erase" the extra accuracy that steady aim gives you if you aim down sight. Woody made a video about this once... back in the mw2 days. i think it pretty much applies to every call of duty, except for the stakeout in blops.
i don't think they make bad secondary or to overpowered mainly because i use a pistol most the time because they switch out so fast so i can quickly finish someone off with my m9 or i would use akimbo raficas purely because they do rape.
@MarkDT5 Perhaps bigger guns like the AA12 and Spas12 could be primary weapons, but smaller weapons suck as the Ranger could be secondaries. Something like that to help with balancing.
The funny thing is is that the real aa 12 has almost 0 recoil
gabe54125 2 months ago
booooo playstation
Darkking271 3 months ago
RIP shotguns
iseeRedpeople1 3 months ago
PLZ BUFF SHOTGUNS
Nuggstaa 3 months ago
shotguns are sooo shit on MW3
say goodbye to one shot kills
ThatMaximesTune 3 months ago
Thats mw2
MrMrdarkzone123 3 months ago
@MrMrdarkzone123 When does it say ''MW3 gameplay''?
Th3Gamemaster2010 3 months ago
this isnt mw3
Mojojojo941 3 months ago
some of the secondaries are really good.
MrGoodfight 3 months ago
NO SHOTGUNS!!! NOOO :'(
NicolaiResch 3 months ago
oh and retards jumping round like they are playing Halo... I actually miss soldier of fortune 2 and counterstrike.. At least in those games people used decent tactics and you needed skill to actually play.
IW sucks balls...
Zenman1976 4 months ago
SO far every game of MW3 I have played has been noobtubes, quickscopes and that stoooooopid overpowered shotgun.. Getting blasted from clean across the map with a shotgun is fuckin ridiculous, especially when grenades are like party poppers in comparison..
Apart from the "javelin spam" I fail to see much difference with MW2.. At least in Balck Ops I managed to get games with people who wanted to use skill instead of overpowered brute force.
Zenman1976 4 months ago
You preach COD very well :D
SaboTheSwede 4 months ago
I'm spazzing son. And maybe a lil AA-12
DSpartacus1 4 months ago
Well shotguns on MW3 are primaries and that is confirmed. In my honest opinion, shotguns as primaries won't make that much of a difference from MW2 because in MW3 they now have the perk "Overkill". Therefore you can have one Sub Machine Gun, Assault Rifle, LMG, or Sniper Rifle and still considerably have a shotgun as a "Secondary" even though it's not technically considered a secondary. So basically it hasn't really changed at all in my opinion. I will admit though it is more balanced then MW2.
die4alife 4 months ago
@die4alife Yeah I was glad to see overkill back then you have to give up a perk to have a decent secondary, It'll be interesting to see if there's conflicting perks. Cod4 it was in the same tier as stopping power, Havn't heard whether that's back or not but hopefully they make overkill a hard choice to make. I think the shotguns were awesome in MW2 but I don't like them as secondaries they should be primaries
WrathchiId 4 months ago
Black ops did shotguns and noob tubes right. There should be some sort of skill involved in getting kills.. Leave them out of MW3 and then it will be a pretty much perfect game.
electrickid2 4 months ago
@electrickid2 That's a stupid idea.
SeraphianKnight 4 months ago
aa-12 siiicckkk :-)
cory9551 4 months ago
demand that MW3 incorporates "choke tubes" to shotguns as unlockable attachments... a choke tube allows you to control how tight a pellet pattern is, in turn this will give shotguns the option for better range. Cause we dont have have buck/slug option.
vewdew3 5 months ago
I liked shotguns in MW2. Because they were secondary. But in Black ops they were primary so i didn't use them so much. Cause you have submachine guns.
And know you have: sub machine and for secondary machine pistols.
So MW3 i guess the shotgun won't be so much used in this game.
My conclusion is: Make shotgun secondary!!!!!!!!!1
xtosmartx 5 months ago
@xtosmartx My conclusion: Shotguns in MW2 were used because they wre so powerful! In BO the shotguns were nerfed, thats why almost no-one used them. In MW3 they are really powerful, don't see a reason to not use them.
Th3Gamemaster2010 5 months ago
shotguns maybe primary weapons but i hope they dont
mentalRCburnouts 5 months ago 3
5 people are gay
C0Nvict97 5 months ago
People only leave the lobby because the AA-12 is just fucking pathetic. You don't need any skill to use it. Just slap it in a random noobs hand and it's bound to get a kill.
I agree though with almost everything that you said, but I lose respect for anyone that uses that piece of shit gun. I can deal with the commando, I can deal with the painkiller, I can deal with the last stand but when it comes to shit players running around with marathon and an AA-12 Mw2 can go fuck itself.
Subbed <3
TheFallenPersona 6 months ago 2
i think its way overpowered for a secondary.... but these would be good as a primary also i think they should have stacking killatreaks
taylorlunn 6 months ago
i think its way overpowered for a secondary.... but these would be good as a primary
taylorlunn 6 months ago
the douchebag in the building was probably me lol
m1c000l 6 months ago
@m1c000l: or me.
PooPoo2U 6 months ago
Hey the About that harrier/chopper comment... even though harriers have an airstrike i believe they no longer have flares but choppers do... so yeah...
xXNinjaMaster21Xx 6 months ago
lol @ 5:09 he stabbed a guy in the back and he ended up completed a challenge called "Martyrdoh" kill and enemy by cooking a frag grenade..lol
messi3747 6 months ago
MW3 Shotguns = Primaries but same power and range as MW2.
MW2 Spas 12 = MW3 Spas 12 but it will be primary.
I mainly play with the Spas 12 in mw2. I use my primary as a secondary in that game ^_^
schwarzegeld 6 months ago
@schwarzegeld so shotguns are primary in mw3?
brownjellow1 6 months ago
@brownjellow1
Yes shotguns are primaries. But, there is a perk called Overkill which allows you to carry 2 primary weapons like in COD4.. so you can carry your primary Spas and an SMG etc
schwarzegeld 6 months ago
@schwarzegeld thats probably gonna be used by alot of people
brownjellow1 6 months ago
@brownjellow1
Nah more people will be using Assasin as it has been confirmed to be a Super Ghost perk.
schwarzegeld 6 months ago
I don't see the issue with them as a secondary. It's not much different than the 2 main guns perk in 4, forget the name atm. Plus, it's not like you can switch to the shotguns quickly like you can with pistols.
RVApunkROCK 6 months ago
guys ths is mw2 not mw3
qskbadboi 6 months ago
NO!
MrPeppla 6 months ago
I have the backwards idea. make shotguns suck like in black ops, but put them as secondaries. In real life they are usually put on a soldier's back for when breaching. If the shotguns had reduced range then new players would flock to them only to find that the shotgun is more of a last resort weapon, rather than a full-on assault powerhouse on your switch. Also, black ops SPAS = what MW2 SPAS should have been.
TheSovietSuperpower 6 months ago
What if they do like CoD4 an make the only secondaries pistols and make launchers equipment?
spysrs2 6 months ago
Part of the fun of using shotguns in black ops is that you're gonna be the only one using one so you're sure that you'll have the advantage up close
BabbelOwnsYou 6 months ago
i herd the gernade launcher is coming bak FML!>/
manuel2136 6 months ago
AA12 with extended maps was AWESOME
EzechielPregzt 6 months ago
Just for the record, I don't think that MW2's weapons are overpowered, think about it in real life you would die every time that you die in the game. Nothing overpowered about it. ;D
macattack1995 6 months ago
specializing in shotguns i think they should be primaries but they should be balanced like the mw2 shottys i think the black ops ones are way underpowered
TheShotgunSaint 7 months ago
The AA12 is a secondary in the campaing mission we've seen in the submarine, and the g18 is back almost definatley gonna be a secondary
Bradderz199 7 months ago
I think the shotguns in CoD4 and WaW were the best. Weapons in the new Modern Warfare are unbalanced and take no skill to use. The game is too user friendly. The weapons in CoD4 excluding the M16 were probably the best in the series yet. The guns shouldn't have no recoil and be too overpowered that killing opponents just takes a limited amount of skill. Shotguns should remain as primary weapons and should only be slightly tweaked so they are not outclassed by every other weapon in the game.
xpantiesnifferx 7 months ago
@xpantiesnifferx Don't hate on the M16A4! It takes more skill to use that gun than an AK-47 or MP5.
M16Ben 7 months ago
@M16Ben It's too overpowered. I found I did better with it than I did if I used the AK-47 and I am more skilled with tht Assault Rifle in my opinion. Luckily, not many people used it in the game.
xpantiesnifferx 7 months ago
shotguns should be primary weapons and alot better than in mw2
Zouv3L 7 months ago
I completely agree with everything you said, as uncreative as that sounds lol.
But that's always been my feelings about the shotguns, mw2 shotguns would have been just fine as primaries, and while the BO shotguns sucked as primaries, they might have done decent as secondaries.
As for the killstreaks, i do feel the stackable ones are more fun. They let you rush or do other fun things do get them, and you don't have to be in super try-hard mode every time you want to get a high killstreak
Eric000769 7 months ago
This would balance mw2 in terms of the shotguns. Decrease power or range of spas 12 and decrease clip size of the aa12(or take out aa12 entirely). Buff the model1887 because after the first nerf they put on it it became useless.Take away akimbo from rangers. Now we just need to convince them the shotguns are worthy of being a primary and to get rid of the machine pistols. The only secondary should be the pistols/handguns. Its called a secondary for a reason. Its not supposed to be good.Nice Vid
joshl573 7 months ago
@joshl573 Secondarys are suppose to be good its a gun so guns aren't good D;<
XxXsmok3w33d4ly420Xx 7 months ago
@XxXsmok3w33d4ly420Xx *Facepalm* The guns that are secondaries shouldnt be good. Its a secondary not a second primary. You shouldnt be able to go secondary only and be able to pull off a great sscore unless your actually good. They are supposed to be bad.
joshl573 7 months ago
thumbs up if ur getting mw3 when it first come out
michaelfrz 7 months ago 8
Haha you now cornerGuyCammper use aa-12 or all shotguns but now NOOBBOOB PLZ THANKZ SORRY BAD ENGLICH
totheface13 8 months ago
Haha... actually commando trumps shotguns, including the AA-12 in many scenarios... I can't tell me how many times I (and other little kids) have screamed out, "You can't fucking knife me through a shotgun shot!!!"
imperialofficer 8 months ago
Shotguns need to be primaries. Secondary weapons are only when the primary fails (unless you're using a launcher).
RuggedSavior 8 months ago
rust brings commando knifers
Betroid 8 months ago
you know youre a fucking noob when you want shotguns to be secondary
aZnGofNY 8 months ago
wow ur a beast. i like the way u put everything and the way you play. ur good and fair. i cant find any flaws. Keep up the good work
Adog9719 8 months ago
@wrich1162 I agree but they should stay as secondary's
RockyD393 8 months ago
I'm a big of the AA12. But in modern warfare 3 I hope that the shotguns will have a more realistic range of about 40-50 yards. The sad fact of modern warfare 2 the shotgun pellets simply disappear from existence after like 10 yards, lol. They fucked up the shotguns bad style.
wrich1162 8 months ago
I totally agree with you. Shotguns in MW3 should be as powerful as they were in MW3 but be primary weapons. As with the Attack Helicopter vs. the Harrier Strike, I like the Harriers better, but the Attack Helicopter stays in the air longer and it is more secretive of who it is going to kill because it does not look at you unlike the Harrier which will point at you when you are its target.
M16Ben 8 months ago
I don't really care if they make pistols 2 shot kill I'll be fine
MrMajorPwnage 8 months ago
yes
gassygasinguy 8 months ago
TBH, I've mostly used the AA-12, or any other shotgun to kill corner-campers...
AsianOps96 8 months ago
I pown with shotguns but you need a fully auto long range weapon as well. Assault rifle with a scope and a shotguns as secondary is the best combo for mw2 in my opinion. Good vids. =)
TheEASports012 8 months ago
Ur AA-12 aint sh*t to my knife skills
BAD1GAMER678 8 months ago
Ur AA-12 ain't shi
BAD1GAMER678 8 months ago
man you're dead set one of the most legit/fair/interesting commentators i've ever watched. i watched a bunch of your videos a month ago and forgot to sub and i found your channel again through ronaldinho and its now 2.30am and i'm still going through your past and present vids!
dc101970 8 months ago 4
@dc101970 Thanks man, appreciate the kind words!
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
wb7s
cachristian123 8 months ago
@cachristian123 wb7s is a fuckwit don't get me started on his bullshit
dc101970 8 months ago
Shotguns should NOT be secondary! A shotgun is one of the most powerful gun you can carry in your hands! Maybe a sub-machine gun would get classified as a secondary.
Bernieo153 8 months ago
maybe this is a solution:
make the shotguns primaries.
as secundairies you can just have a pistol or with fully auto upgrade like in blops but not like fking gay 18 akimbo.
then you can set a perk (just like overkill in cod4) and then you can use a stinger as secundary.
GOOD IDEA??
MrFlorian45 8 months ago
make the shotguns in mw2 primarys and maybe a little more range
enohpoxasotla100 8 months ago
Shotguns as secondaries were completely fine except for the prepatch models. If IW would have made the prepatch models as a primary, it would have been perfect in my opinion.
DrJenniges86 8 months ago
I kind of hated shotguns being primary cuz like just having pistols is boring you can really kick some A** without camping. My opinion. AA12!!!
697Jad1 8 months ago
If they do put shotguns as a primary, they should put more ammo on them because without extended mags the AA12 is pretty bad.
PrinceNarwhal 8 months ago
Shotguns should be primaries. All handguns should be 2 hit kills. And Shotguns should be somewhere between Black Ops and MW2. BO's shotties are kind of between COD 4 and MW2.
Oh, and no stacking killstreaks. It made killstreaks an aim, rather than benefit. 402 said on twitter they were making killstreaks and explosives more like support weapons rather than goals.
OptimisticNihilistic 8 months ago
@OptimisticNihilistic I think killstreak rewards should be stackable. I play MW2 over Black Ops simply because MW2 has stackable killstreaks rewards while Black Ops does not. It is more fun with the stackable killstreak rewards.
M16Ben 8 months ago
@M16Ben Yes, the stackable Killstreaks are better. BUT, the Player Controlled Killstreaks such as the Chopper Gunner are too overpowered. Danger Close should not have an effect on the Killstreaks whatsoever and getting a Tactical Nuke isn't entirely difficult as using the Chopper is just too simple to get kills. I would prefer if they kept the 3, 5 & 7 set up from CoD4 because there weren't many problems there.
xpantiesnifferx 7 months ago
@xpantiesnifferx I definitely agree with you that Danger Close Pro should have not helped with the power of killstreak rewards. The nuke is not in MW3, so if someone gets an AC-130 or a Chopper Gunner, you don't need to worry about a nuke. I don't feel the Chopper Gunner and AC-130 were overpowered in MW2 simply because you can hide indoors and be safe for an AC-130 or put Cold-Blooded and a Stinger on and shoot down the Chopper Gunner.
M16Ben 7 months ago
@M16Ben I preferred the 3, 5 & 7 Killstreak Set-up in Call of Duty 4 and the fact that there was no Launchers with the Lock-On feature. Cold-Blooded is constantly exploited by campers who still go negative when they sit in a doorway with Akimbo Rangers. Killstreaks such as UAVs and Harriers should only be able to be placed within an area of the map (Like the Cobra in Black Ops). I just think with all the added features in the annual release of CoD games has ruined it completely. CoD2 & 4 = BEST!
xpantiesnifferx 7 months ago
@xpantiesnifferx I feel the killstreak rewards make COD unique to other FPS games. The killstreak rewards were balanced simply because of how easy they are to shoot down. Sure, COD4 (I never played COD2) was fun, but compared to MW2, isn't as fun for me, at least. Don't you have fun when you get a chopper gunner or AC-130? As for camping bitch with Rangers, the grenade launcher is there for a reason: to blast people like him who don't know how to play the game,
M16Ben 7 months ago
@M16Ben I've had so many AC130s and Chopper Gunners that I avoid using them in my Killstreak Set-up. As for the Grenade Launchers, they to are exploited by the use of One Man Army and Danger Close. I feel as though the game doesn't need them as it is unbalanced already. I would prefer to get kills whilst on the ground because the Killstreaks are just to simple to get kills with. I don't use any Killstreaks passed 8 apart from the Stealth Bomber. Sure my kill count isn't high but my k/d is good.
xpantiesnifferx 7 months ago
@xpantiesnifferx It seems to me you're bored of the COD series and require something new or you want something you once liked but haven't played in awhile. You don't have to use OMA and Danger Close with the grenade launcher. You can just put it on an assault rifle and use it when you need it. Just play the game you want to play it. I definitely see where you are coming from. I remember all the good times I used to have playing COD4. I'm sure MW3 will have a game mode that is like it.
M16Ben 7 months ago
@M16Ben Yes, CoD isn't as appealing is it used to be but I still play MW2 -.-. I guess I consider myself as a "legitimate' player as I don't use Grenade launchers, Commando and High Killstreaks etc. I play the game as fairly as possible. Sometimes I may use something that isn't classed as "fair", but others use it so I don't see why I can't.
xpantiesnifferx 7 months ago
@xpantiesnifferx Me too. I don't use Commando because I don't believe in knifing in a first person shooter. There seems to be a lot of attachments that do weird things such as increasing damage or decreasing recoil, so I don't use grenade launchers. I will still use high killstreaks because the enemy team always has the option to shoot it down or hide. Don't feel guilty if you put them on.
M16Ben 7 months ago
They tried to balance them out by making the harrier kill quicker, but the attack helicopter last longer and roam the map. Another thing to point out is that you dont have to place it, you just call it in like a UAV and your done.
All in all, it still is worthless.
turkeysonmeth2 8 months ago
what is with the extra tags in the description?
thetiger929 8 months ago
@thetiger929 Just like putting in bizarre messages
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
@BobLoblaw1978 5:08 what the hell happened there? You knifed him and you said you killed him with a cooked grenade lol :)
MeLoNhEadSeb 6 months ago
@thetiger929 Too get more views duh?
CeerqHD 6 months ago
After black ops I've been seeing people using last stand and cold blooded a LOT more than usual.
BLiiiTzXz 8 months ago
make shotguns secondaries!!!!!
gangsta19x 8 months ago
i hope it has balistic knife
aqualoop1 8 months ago
Shotguns need to continue to be Primary's having a secondary shotgun is too powerful. I would love running around with an AA-12 as my Primary! Or even Model 1887's
AtTaCkOfThErEtArDs17 8 months ago
I got a nuke today on salvage well i say that i pressed the button to set it off then the game ended.
IPwnedYourMumXD 8 months ago
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phirefox375 8 months ago
u can have 2 primery wepons is mw3 (its an WaW perk)
TheDrunkrussian101 8 months ago
High power shot guns like the spas and aa12 should be primaries. Weaker low ammunition and range shot guns should be secondary and scavenger should only replenish grenades and double primaries but not replenish any ammo
TooFastTooGood 8 months ago
They should keep the powerful shotguns, make them a primary, and then bring overkill back. That way you don't have to worry about everyone having a shotgun and if they do use it, they have to give up another perk that could possibly be a powerful one in the same tier slot.
LeoT416 8 months ago
u r a good commentator
codyyates13 8 months ago
@codyyates13 Thanks man! Appreciate your support
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
@BobLoblaw1978 your welcome keep up the good work :)
codyyates13 8 months ago
@codyyates13 i just subed
codyyates13 8 months ago
Bring back akimbo rangers!!!
01Chilling001 8 months ago
i think shotguns should not ever be brought back as a secondary... as a primary its fine but not as a secondary...its way to overpowered as a secondary
br34kerbr34ker 8 months ago
glad to see you playing MW2 I like Black ops but its too balance. The black ops weapons are too similar. MW2 is so fun to play really wished we can get Theater mode in MW3
WARhammerJUSTICE 9 months ago
@WARhammerJUSTICE No doubt, MW2 is way funner. I don't hate Blops, but it is just missing action.
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
why do they always send the poor why dont presidents fight the war
alfie0536 9 months ago
@alfie0536 no more system of a down 4 you
Krasiantos 8 months ago
@Krasiantos hey jackass i saw them last saturday actually :)
alfie0536 8 months ago
@alfie0536 Actually, in America, it's the middle class that actually makes up most of the military. (since it's the biggest section of the USA.) I don't blame anyone for avoiding war at this point, since our country goes to war constantly these days.
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
i gave the first thumbs down NOW YOUR WALLS SHALL CRUMBLE!!!
eldawg08 9 months ago
@eldawg08 :( why would you hurt me like that!?
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago 2
@BobLoblaw1978 lol you know your vid is good i was fucking with you eventhough i gave you said thumbs down lol you game on xbox also?
eldawg08 8 months ago
@BobLoblaw1978 i normally dont subscribe to any1, but hearing your gerald butler voice captivates me lmao. I feel the same way you do about the shotguns, but with one slight dif, the spaz was my gun of choice. just because of the killing power and the range......and you dont have 2 reload the whole clip after one kill. anyways, i just watched 5 of your vids, good shit bro.
killboxtwinz 8 months ago
They should stay secondaries. It's like bob said anyone can use them u don't really need to be good at the game to go on a rampage with the aa12
rapsnod 9 months ago
Stopping power doesn't need to come back. Stopping power was OP, ghost actually isn't (though it IS overused), but I think that's an argument for another time. I think what they should do with secondaries is either have machine pistols (probably not quite as good as the raffica) or make the standard pistols a little bit more powerful or easier to use.
jin97 9 months ago
Your vids are awesome :) just looked at about 5 of them :) im subbed :) do u hav a machinima partnership?
TheEoghan96 9 months ago
@TheEoghan96 Thanks man, I appreciate your support. Not a Machinima partner, might try someday.
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
I would lengthen the range a bit and make them primaries
AND MAKE PISTOLS MORE POWERFUL PLEASE! In MW2, if I really try-harded I could get good scores using only a pistol, and it was soooooo rewarding; in Black Ops, I can't do shit with them. Make them usable
SinggaSongg 9 months ago
they r bringing the spaz 12 back also the aa-12 but i think they secondary
SportsandGameNews23 9 months ago
they r bringing the spaz 12 back
SportsandGameNews23 9 months ago
oh wait u made this video im an idiot
crunkturtle 9 months ago
@crunkturtle lol, just saw this message.
BobLoblaw1978 8 months ago
The guns are gonna be buffed so it will be like having stooping power from what i heard.
fedia9 9 months ago
I heard that even though stopping power isn't in the game the guns are gonna be buffed up, so its pretty much like having stopping power i guess.
fedia9 9 months ago
They only thing that really ticked me off is the dual shotguns espically when the model was practically a machine gun since of range crap. But bringing back shottys for MW3 as a secondary is fine with me as long as DONT HAVE DUALS!
TheDMAC53 9 months ago
wow no dislikes nice
Worldatwarwhore 9 months ago
Yo bob, in response, i'll give it mw3 month, and if the game turns out amazing, i'll pick it up, but if people find a load of broken shit in the game, nah
drunkfux1 9 months ago
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SYTECGamers 9 months ago
If every gun is over powered arent they all equal?? Hehe
xNormalcy 9 months ago
I kind of want them as secondaries because like you said not that many people will carry stingers and i hate when i get a chopper or cobra and it gets taken down right away
BROTHA891 9 months ago
arent the ranger and the moddel 1887s good against commando bitches?
MrShotgun444 9 months ago
sry i posted the comment b4 watching the video- well i like secondary shotguns, specially if u running a sniper or an LMG that have very poor hip fire and is very hard to get someone very close to you. i love running a shotgun in general with my RPD and also because shotguns where so effective u dont need Stoppoing power, so Scar-H extended Mag w/ a AA-12 Extended Mag and Hardline- and Scavenger, just a great class set up.
j4lifefool 9 months ago
they should because like that people dont just carry 1 secondary, to be honst it was either the Python or some kind of launcher that they use on blackops. so if they should bring it, for maps like skidrow that you actually had a chance w/ a shotgun.
j4lifefool 9 months ago
I don't have to tell you, I LOVE the shotguns from MW2. While people like to throw out the phrase "overpowered" a lot, honestly everything in MW2 was overpowered...hence nothing was. I like how it was set up because you could run around with a machine pistol or shotgun as a primary and still do well. It's like adding two primary categories. And while every gun in this game seems OP, every gun had its drawback. There was no one perfect weapon (cough...Black Ops FAMAS...cough).
GodOfPopTarts 9 months ago
Bob, you're one of my favorite commentators. That is all.
twinkiebeyond 9 months ago
@twinkiebeyond Thanks, i really appreciate that
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
Doesn't matter to me if they are primary or secondary, all I have to do is survive long enough to find a gun on the ground... BOOM instant overkill perk and/or secondary shotgun!
RewindTheImage 9 months ago
@RewindTheImage Exactly, overkill is overrated
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
I think the helicopter stays in the air longer than the harrier kinda like the ac130 vs the copper cause the chopper lasts longer but is much easier to shoot down
crunkturtle 9 months ago
@crunkturtle Also, i forgot to mention that the harrier will shoot down all choppers, another huge strongpoint.
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
@BobLoblaw1978 yeah i didnt mention that and that is a good point. dont u make gameplay commentaries?
crunkturtle 9 months ago
did you know that if you use steady aim with a shotgun, (like you do in this video) you "erase" the extra accuracy that steady aim gives you if you aim down sight. Woody made a video about this once... back in the mw2 days. i think it pretty much applies to every call of duty, except for the stakeout in blops.
klogekaj 9 months ago in playlist hallo
@klogekaj Yeah, but i cant help but aim down sight, habit. Once i unlock ninja thats all i use.
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
@BobLoblaw1978 oh okay :p and yes, ninja is much better
klogekaj 9 months ago
just cause its secondary does not mean it has to be weak...
shotgun were weak in mid to long range combat...as a result go as secondary...
you cannot have a primary weapon that cant even reach the enemy in medium distance let alone long range...
mw2 had it right, secondary should be good in close quarter combat...but only SMGs wud be superiour to them...making it realistic and balanced
ParityProductionz 9 months ago
@ParityProductionz Exactly, there is no rule that a secondary needs to suck.
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
AA12 won't do nothing against Painkiller+commando knifers.
ddotwayne 9 months ago
@ddotwayne Painkiller was rage inducing
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
what time do you play? I've added you on ps3 but have never been on at the same time as you :(
SWL014 9 months ago
@SWL014 Been playing homefront on xbox lately
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
@BobLoblaw1978 oh ok :)
SWL014 9 months ago
i love your commentaries they bring about great discussions
JaySeanDerulo1 9 months ago
@JaySeanDerulo1 Thanks, i love to argue and debate so i like these topics
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
i don't think they make bad secondary or to overpowered mainly because i use a pistol most the time because they switch out so fast so i can quickly finish someone off with my m9 or i would use akimbo raficas purely because they do rape.
griffin16tg 9 months ago
@griffin16tg i like pistol secondaries, but then most people carry rockets to shoot down air support.
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
have you seen the expandables when a dude mows down like 25 enemies with his AA12??
MrZakhar1 9 months ago 5
@MrZakhar1 No, i need to check it out
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
@MrZakhar1 yeah dude terry crews wrecked shop!! although i think he had explosive rounds in the expendables
megamatt13 8 months ago
What about both, strong primary shotguns but then you could have a weaker shotgun as secondary?
MarkDT5 9 months ago
@MarkDT5 Sounds good to me
BobLoblaw1978 9 months ago
@MarkDT5 Perhaps bigger guns like the AA12 and Spas12 could be primary weapons, but smaller weapons suck as the Ranger could be secondaries. Something like that to help with balancing.
Scarfacetfs 9 months ago
@Scarfacetfs Yeah thats what I was thinking, though they would need to get rid of akimbo on shotguns at least for the secondary ones.
MarkDT5 9 months ago
i just got 2 nukes today 1st with rager fmj 2nd usp:45 fmj
reninngun 9 months ago