DeMar DeRozan Vs Iman Shumpert - Impact Competitive League(lockout league) Day 3

[najirban]

Love the beats... Demar has terrible defensive footwork... Shump has more offense than I thought... Stoudamire is better than Bosh but Bosh doesn't have bad wheels so, I'd rather Bosh.

[cookiessuck1]

Iman > Demar, give me Iman all day...better defender, better shooter. The only thing Derozen has driving to the hoop. Derozen is good don't get me wrong I just prefer Shump. Knicks getting that SHIP this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RaptorsHood]

@cookiessuck1 he's a rookie... he's not a better defender or better shooter. He hasn't even played a game yet(preseason doesn't count). Once regular season starts and teams actually start playing defense, he won't do so well. DeRozan is a better player overall and his defense will certainly improve with dwane casey. Plus your only saying that because your a knicks fan.

[PatrickEganLong]

@RaptorsHood

You're only saying that because you're a Raptors fan. DeMar has been touted as a better player from the beginning and he may well be but definitely don't count Shumpert out in the match up, the kid bleeds swag and is hungry to improve. He probably is a better defender than DeRozan too he's pretty sick on the other end of the ball. Better shooter? No, but neither of them are stupendous from outside and they'll both show improvement.

[casualinsomniac]

@RaptorsHood Someone was wrong.

[RaptorsHood]

@casualinsomniac how?

[privatesoul]

@RaptorsHood well I guess you were wrong

[RaptorsHood]

@privatesoul how?

[privatesoul]

@RaptorsHood shumpert is #3 on the rookie ladder right now; has a decent bid for rookie of the year of he keeps playing the way he does.

[RaptorsHood]

@privatesoul He's not better than DeMar tho. Not even close

[casualinsomniac]

@RaptorsHood Its too early in his career to really know that dude. I'm sure Stephon Marbury seemed like he was gonna be pretty good at one point too.

[lakersforlifeson]

demar iz silky smooth with his shot! damnn

[EastFartVideoCompany]

this is a biased video if you go on hoopmixtape they had all IMan shumperts INSANE game dunks that beat DeRozans dunks in that same game

[W1ll88]

why are people talking shit about Toronto's mascot? There are way worse mascots out there *Clears throat Lakers...Celtics.....but anyway. A dinosaurs cool who cares if it was named after a movie, thats how most names are made anyway. People don't have some holy epiphany and decide to name their team something all of a sudden. Just sayin.

[Has1b]

Demar needs to literally work on everything. It's kind of scary how he's still good despite being a crappy shooter, defender, ball handler and rebounder.

Dwane Casey will fix all that up though.

[Larsinyfammm]

@Has1b Did you say he was a crappy shooter hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, he defense isn't crappy either he had his moments on the defensive end, and not many players who come into the league are good defenders right away.

[KingRockets]

@Larsinyfammm K he is at best an average shooter at his position, and his defense is the weakest part of his game. So he wasn't that far off in what he said.

[Larsinyfammm]

@KingRockets woah your stunned hes better than average shooter and defense is a weak part for alot of players and DeRozan will get better at it

[swinpat]

Demar showed a little post game there, still really raw, but definitely could blossom to be a useful tool if he keeps at it.

[chiladin]

Demar is 6'7 220 pounds has a greast body to the point whereas he wil be the BIGGEST SG in the NBA so physically he will be able to dominate in the high post ala Jordan/ Kobe. He has a silky smooth release and a nice base on his jumpshot. He's one of the more athletically gifted players which makes for showtime highlights, is very humble and works on his game. When he develops his outside shot I can see him having numbers like 27ppg, 6rp and 3apg one day. He's the future!

[PatrickEganLong]

@chiladin

27 ppg? Idk about that but somewhere in the ballpark, like 23-25 maybe. He's not THAT versatile a scorer to be nearing 30 every night. Maybe one day but idk.

[SolidSnakeRules]

rookies' names getting dumber every year

[victortimeok]

@SolidSnakeRules You should see NFL rookie names.

[RaptorsHood]

Ok Any hate on the Raptors or Canada your getting blocked and your comment is getting removed immediately. If you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all.

[AJoeSmith]

@RaptorsHood I have nothing bad to say about Canada, but fuck a Raptor. It's 2011 and they still have a Jurassic Park mascot.

[RaptorsHood]

@AJoeSmith Who the fuck changes their mascot after 16 years. Raptors are dinosaurs that doesn't make it a jurassic park mascot.

[AJoeSmith]

@RaptorsHood Educate yourself, man. The sole reason behind the Toronto mascot WAS the movie. The movie came out in 1993 and was very popular. Low and behold, Toronto gets a NBA team in 1995 and they name themselves after the dinosaurs in the movie. Just be glad the movie wasn't "Gremlins."

[RaptorsHood]

@AJoeSmith i know that but its just a type of dinosaur. I'm pretty sure most people knew what a raptor was before that movie came out unless your stupid. But who really cares its still the sickest mascot in the nba

[CMBKSHAWN]

@RaptorsHood benny the bull is the sickest mascot

[RaptorsHood]

Demars like "stay in your place or I put a J in your face"

[lavvylav610]

atleast the knicks made it to the playoffs.. where the RAPTORS? .. Carmelo and Stoudemire will shit on the whole Raptor Team by themselves lol

[RaptorsHood]

@lavvylav610 i'd much rather rebuild the whole team properly than have a shit team like the knicks who got swept in the first round. LOL

[dags791]

@lavvylav610 naw the knicks woulda been better if the didnt get carmelo, yea hes a dominate player, but so is stoudemire. before melo came to the knicks amare was an MVP canidate and after melo came amare's numbers dropped and so did the number of wins the knicks got. they should trade him or make melo run the knicks fast break bc hes slows down the game to much for the knicks.

[RaptorsHood]

@dags791 thats true, like i said its not good having multiple superstars. Its better to have one superstar and an all star beside him then a defensive specialist and some role players.

[blackvolta]

@dags791 straight up LIES! if you dont watch knicks games, shut ur piece!

[RaptorsHood]

@blackvolta Knicks are terrible defensively and they also have a crap bench full of D leaguers and 40 year old veterans who barley played a minute in their entire career. And btw i'm not comparing the Raptors with the knicks, we're rebuliding so there is really no point in comparing a playoff team like the knicks to a rebuilding raptors team until we start makin the playoffs.

[ShinLa83]

@RaptorsHood Knicks are rebuilding too. They "JUST" acquired Stoudamire and Melo. People laugh at D leaguers and 2nd round picks, no one laughing at Landry anymore. If you're going to say something about his bad playoff debut, all I can say is, what rookie does good in their first playoff debut? ;)

[casualinsomniac]

@RaptorsHood Who is the "40 year old veteran who barley played a minute in their entire career?"

[RaptorsHood]

You cannot compare DeMar to Iman at all. Demar was a top 10 pick and is a projected all star by all sports analysts and top players. Iman is a late first round pick in a shit draft. Like i have stated before dropping 30 points in the impact league(no defense league) means nothing at all. Same goes for demar but he's actually a proven scorer in the league. So don't make any arguments unless u have NBA proof.

[lavvylav610]

@RaptorsHood analysis projected he was gunna be an all star so he is gunna be an all star ? lmfao..and just because iman is a late first round pick in a shitty draft and udk how shitty it rlly is until the season starts means what exactly ?? he wont be good .??? what does that have to do with anything. same shit they said about monta ellis,stephen jackson,gilbert and ginobili and they werent even 1st rounders they were 2nd rounders. iman may have a better career than derozan in a few yrs anyway

[RaptorsHood]

@lavvylav610 yea... keep thinking that

[RaptorsHood]

@lavvylav610 half way through the season we'll see where iman at. probly 1ppg and 0.5 assists lmao! DeMar will be dropping like 25 PPG and with Dwyane casey's Defense we'll destroy the knicks. You can a million all stars on your team but if you cant play defense you'll never win. Unfortunatly the knicks are that type of team, all offense no defense.

[mkadoza]

@RaptorsHood I never thought I'd hear a Raptors fan, a team which's started everyone from Calderon to Carter to Bargnani to Rasho, talk to anyone about defense...

[RaptorsHood]

@mkadoza yea...well defense wins games soo we're finally on the right track by hiring a defensive championship coach. The rebuild is going good so far

[casualinsomniac]

@RaptorsHood ROFL ROFL ROFL. Dude you're such a delusional hater. Iman is already doing excedingly well starting until Davis is healthy, and Derozan's jumper is looking steadier this year, but hasn't been falling lately. The Knicks as a team are trying to commit to defense. But, its hard when you have a coach that has never directed a defensive team in his life. Why you gotta hate on some random rookie?

[RaptorsHood]

@casualinsomniac i'm not, some idiots keep saying Iman is better so i set their asses straight.

[casualinsomniac]

@RaptorsHood He could be. Derozan has only been in the league 2 years. Too early to tell for either one.

[RaptorsHood]

You cannot compare DeMar to Iman at all. Demar was a top 10 pick and is a projected all star by all sports analysts and top players. Iman is a late first round pick in a shit draft. Like i have stated before dropping 30 points in the impact league(no defense league) means nothing at all. Same goes for demar but he's actually a proven scorer in the league. So don't make any arguments unless u have NBA proof.



[casualinsomniac]

@RaptorsHood Predicting players and the importance of draft spots is ludicrous. Drafts are crapshoots. Great players are taken way out of place all the time. Rajon Rondo was drafted 4 spots lower in "a shit draft." Danny Granger was drafted at the same spot. Marc Gasol was drafted 48th overall. Monta Ellis was drafted 40th. While Greg Oden, Ralph Samson, and Kwame Brown were all taken with the first pick.

[brohamandcheesed]

how can you even shit on knicks fans and their super stars?

you raptor fans know that when DeMar realizes hes good hes headed out of toronto?

Just like vince, just like t mac, just like bosh

[RaptorsHood]

@brohamandcheesed your stupid, back then we had shit management and they didn't know how to put together a team so vince left. T mac left cause he didn't like playing in vince's shadow everyone knows that. And bostrich left because he's stupid. Bryan colangelo is one of the top GM's in the league, he's building this team from scratch and is doing a pretty good job. But most retards like you cant get that through your thick skulls. I'd appreciate it if u stopped starting these pointless arguments

[richkid2311]

@RaptorsHood Based on Bosh's situation now compared to where he was...i'd say his decision was pretty smart....

[RaptorsHood]

@richkid2311 ya but now everyone knows he's a weak jump shooting PF. When he was in T no one payed attention to him. I've never liked him much, he was never a franchise player. But whatever good for him i guess...

[Littlerock2221]

fuck these NY fans watch your overated superstars screw up in the playoffs with their mediocre defense and ball dominat players taking 80% of their feild goal attempts.

[RaptorsHood]

@Littlerock2221 lol soo true. Their defense is officially worse than the raptors as of next season. They got annihilated is the playoffs by the celtics! NY fans don't expect any championships anytime soon. You'll be getting sweeped in the first round until they can get a better coach than d'antoni.

[23blade]

@RaptorsHood Your team didn't even make playoffs. Sitting at the bottom of the division.

[RaptorsHood]

@23blade one word: Rebuilding

[23blade]

@RaptorsHood ok i see

[RaptorsHood]

@23blade glad u didn't start a pointless argument like most people.

[RaptorsHood]

@Littlerock2221 lol soo true. Their defense is officially worse than the raptors as of next season. They got annihilated is the playoffs by the celtics! NY fans don't expect any championships anytime soon. You'll be getting sweeped in the first round until they can get a better coach than d'antoni.

[anonimuso]

@RaptorsHood We'll be getting "sweeped" huh? o.0 I don't think I can take advice from someone who doesn't know the past tense of the verb "to sweep".

[RaptorsHood]

@vinsteeezul Yes he is, he's a 7 foot center. And we do have a good bench: Barbosa, L.Klieza, Amir johnson, Calderon,Alabi. And im not talking bout signing a star SF im talkin bout the 2012 draft u stupid american. I'm done arguing with you, you obviously dont know shit your just trolling. Now get the fuck off my video!

[ttop50040]

Iman has it bad already; first he gets booed at the Draft, second, he probably won't get a chance to perform with there being 2 all-stars on the Knicks, third, YouTube "ballers" want/expect him to suck in the NBA. I'm not saying DeMar is bad, I'm just saying give Iman a chance, Landry Fields was a second round pick and the same happened to him and he showed out!

[Litchris12]

you guys arent giving this guy any fair assessment. this is a rookie guard going against basic nba competition. How many years has derozan been in the league 3?This guy hasnt even had a legit summer league for pete' sake. derozan when he was a rookie and just now started playing pretty well

[RaptorsHood]

@Litchris12 lol this is the impact league they dont play defense. Fucking dahntay jones dropped like 40 points the other day, him doing that in the NBA would be almost impossible. This kid will barley get 2 mins of playing time with chauncey billups and tony douglas on the knicks.

[Litchris12]

@RaptorsHood im not gonna say that shumpert gonna be kobe bryant or anything but im saying just give this guy some time then judge. I also believe he will get some minutes this year because i think there gonna lean on him to be a true point for the team. Chauncey,landry arent gonna be playing much trust me. Landry is gonna play a sixth man type role when he gets a consistent jump shot.

[HoodStyles2]

@Litchris12 He definitely won't get starting minutes over Landry. Landry is the Knicks starting 2 guard right now. He needed to adjust to Melo being with the Knicks. But come November, the old Landry Fields will be back in action.

I gotta admit though. I was one of the people who booed Iman Shumpert on draft night, but after seeing this I have some hope for him. Dude's a fucking monster.

Oh and to the Raptors fans, y'all act like they're going to the playoffs this season lol fall back.

[RaptorsHood]

@HoodStyles2 This season is just devlopment season and getting to know D Case a bit better. Next season is playoff year, When JV comes from Lithuania and we draft Barnes and Kobongo.

[casualinsomniac]

@HoodStyles2 Singleton ain't lookin' real sharp right now either.

[RaptorsHood]

@Litchris12 So dropping 27 points in a no defense league is pathetic. Lets see him do that against NBA pgs, he will get raped big time.

[Litchris12]

@RaptorsHood that same thing that goes with derozan with 35 points. the point im making is that everyone on this page seems to knock this dude because he's n the knicks and you obviously are a raptors fan, but to knock on a dude before he even gets a chance to get some real practice or some sort of nba experience to fairly judge this dude. wait till the season starts

[RaptorsHood]

@Litchris12 no it doesn't demar dropped 37 in houston last season and had 2 back to back 30 point games. He also averaged above 20 points in the second half on the season.

[Litchris12]

@RaptorsHood i doubt it...have you seen this guys defense against pgs. he's not pretty bad. rajon rondo is not to sharp on defense either but he knows where to pick his spots at. When the season starts i'm definitely gonna keep in touch with you to show you that this kid is a good pick man.

[RaptorsHood]

@Litchris12 rajon rondo's one on the top defensive pg's in the league...

[BlueRaptor28]

im a raptors fan but Iman looked pretty good

loving demars mid range game

[ewu77]

@RaptorsHood Thats pretty sad if u are still believing in Bargnani. Bayless could just be another Mike James and Barbosa will probably sign with a competitive team, unless we overpay him. Although Demar is working hard, the most I see him being is a Rolando Blackman, which isn't bad.

[RaptorsHood]

@ewu77 I used to hate bargnani but he is playing great in Euro basket. Bayless hasn't played much so u can't say anything about him just yet. Barbosa already decided to stay with Toronto when free agency started, so your wrong. Demar is getting high praise from alot of people so i think he'll be a great player, at this point all you can do is assume. Just wait and see what happends before judging these players

[ewu77]

@RaptorsHood I meant that Barbosa, after this year, will probably join another team.

[RaptorsHood]

@ewu77 wont make a difference, weems will be back better and more skilled. We'll draft a star SF (Harrison Barnes/ James Mcadoo) and we'll be in the playoffs like every year. It all works perfectly, we evaulate our talent this season and then in 2012 - 2013 season we get JV and SW back from Lithuania and also draft our future SF and/or PG. Then we're all set, Bryan Colangelo made a great move that will turn this franchise around.

[JCaps91]

PLUS lol Iman lead his team to a W. That's all that counts. lol rookie leading his team to a win and Demar couldnt win a damn summer league game?

[RaptorsHood]

@JCaps91 You can talk all the shit you want man but Iman ain't shit till he proves something in the NBA which he won't, keep dreamin.

[SDSOverfiend]

@RaptorsHood Derozan ain't prove shit either. FOH acting like a true dickrider. I like Both of these Niggas. I came heree to see ball not bebate about 2 dudes who got lots to prove.

[RaptorsHood]

@SDSOverfiend whats bebate?

[SDSOverfiend]

@RaptorsHood The alternate pronounciation of the word Debate.

[xmaxpower2]

@JCaps91 knicks have allstars carmelo n stoudemire...wut the fuk is ur point..iman aint helpin shit u dont kno it till u see. raptors are a young up n comin team there rebuilding dumbass... demar is the key piece he will be a star in the league he jus finished his second year dumb fyck,,he is a potent scorrer n will keep posterizing every1 in league...fuk u and ur iman. if ur a new york kncik cock succker, u shud hbe happy carmelo is ther faggit. stoudamire is garbage...ide rather have bosh

[BallerInferno93]

@xmaxpower2 3 main points

1) If Derozan will be a star, Scalabrine will win MVP...

2) If you'd rather have Bosh then Stat, you'd rather have less Production, Less excitement, and probably less wins.

3)Carmelo a faggot? Top 5 player in the league, married, and a PROVEN star. Way to go moron, educate yourself

[RaptorsHood]

@BallerInferno93 i agree with all the points cept the first one. DeMar can easily become a star in this league, this was only his second year in the nba and he doubled his scoring average. I think he has a lot more levels he can reach in his game, wait and see before you judge 2nd year players.

[BallerInferno93]

@RaptorsHood My first point was more sarcasm than anything else lol, I jus love throwin out Scalabrine jokes. Derozan can be a great player, but he needs at least one good surrounding player to help him on the offense. One thing that comes with being the only scorer on your team, is a lot of pressure, and how he handles said pressure will determine ho good of a player he will be

[xmaxpower2]

@BallerInferno93 ...this dumb faggot queer...ur an idiot. 1) demar will be an all star next year, jus goin into his 3rd...why judge him so early...ur just stupid...ask what lebron,wade,carmelo,kobe and all the coaches think of demar u fukin idiot... 2) bosh isnt producing cuz hes playing with the best 2 gaurds in the league u fukin idiot...stoudamire is a black marcin gortat faggit,. 3 ) i wanst calling carmelo a faggot dumbass i was talkin to jcaps...carmelo is the best scorer in the league.

[Litchris12]

@BallerInferno93 true dat......lol funniest comment of the day

[RaptorsHood]

@Litchris12 how was that funny?

[youngdiesel2989]

@xmaxpower2 bosh sucks man isnt as good as stoudamire if you watched the knicks play before the melo trade he had a group of young players looking like vets bosh could never carry a team like that he may get his teams to the playoffs but nobodys gonna see his team as a threat

[vinsteeezul]

@xmaxpower2

youd rather have bosh? youre dumb. amare is a better scorer, rebounder, defender. so i dont know where youre getting that from. the raptors havent been good since vince carter was there, and that was like almost a decade ago now. Bargnani sucks, he tries to be like dirk, but just doesnt have the skills.

Derozan is your only hope man. so you guys will stay shitty until you get a real center, a real pg, and a real bench. very unlikely because nobody wants to play for shiity toronto

[SuperiorBlues]

@vinsteeezul Better rebounder? really? Check their career stats.

[vinsteeezul]

@SuperiorBlues

different teams means different situations. amare played less minutes per game than bosh, and theyre only about 1 rebound away from each other. so i assume that amare definately could have grabbed a rebound in the 2 or 3 minute difference there is in their minutes per game. plus amare played on a better team with the suns, with real teammates. overall, amare has a higher player efficiency rating more win shares per 48, higher career blocks, points, and fg percentage.

[RaptorsHood]

@vinsteeezul Real center? already have one he's coming next season, ever heard on jonas valanciunas? MVP of the fiba U19 tournament averaged like 30 points 10 rebounds 3 blocks. We have a better bench than most of the nba, we just need a star SF to start and trade Bargnani. Shows how little you know about the raptors. Btw doesn't matter what team you are as long as you win players will want to play for your team. The past few season we've had shit coaches and GM's but we're finally back on track

[cloudstrife1288]

@xmaxpower2 enjoy the lottery!

[richkid2311]

@xmaxpower2 "Stoudemire is garbager ,ide rather have bosh" Thats why you have neither....knicks^^^^

[minorj47]

@xmaxpower2 Yo go suck a dic man, and bosh didn't want your loser team

[RaptorsHood]

@minorj47 bosh is a loser... he's a skinny jump shooting PF with no post game. I'd much rather have Ed Davis or JV than that twig.

[lavvylav610]

@xmaxpower2 . -_- . Stop Lyin To Yourself. LMAO

[stickmerc]

@xmaxpower2 You're an idiot if you prefer Bosh over Stoudemire.

[ShinLa83]

@xmaxpower2 You'd rather have Bosh over Stoudamire? You on crack?

[TheBoiFlip]

@ShinLa83 at least chris bosh is more durable than stat..everytime stat on the court im scared he going to get injured.

[toadboy31]

@ShinLa83 You look stupid now lol.

[fawk3mmm]

@xmaxpower2 Bosh over Amare now i know you just hating, Bosh cant hold down as a captain hes weak and gets bully. Amare just came off a great season and proved he was worth it, stop sucking the knicks boy

[victortimeok]

@xmaxpower2 Which is why you would never win a championship.

[victortimeok]

@xmaxpower2 Lol you need to go to rehab Pronto.

[JCaps91]

Plus no one in the damn league would consider Demar a great player or even put him and all star in a sentence except Canada lol. Don't get me wrong he can score but so can Lou Williams. He ain't a super star talent. Not consistent enough.

[JCaps91]

If you noticed these were against bad teams and if it was against the Bulls it was because the Bulls got stagnant or the season was winding down and didn't want injuries. Raps won't be making any noise any time in the near future.

[rjg314]

nice vid. what beat is this?

[rjg314]

@rjg314 nevermind,,end of credits

[vaishnan100]

nice i hope he worked on his 3pt shot

[medtonic]

@vaishnan100 That shot where he was staring down his defender and pulled up was a 3 point shot. So far at Impact league he's 4-9 from deep.

[vaishnan100]

@medtonic thats good, hope he can bring that to the nba and be kinda like vince

[Mauryd22]

DeRozan got TOO much potential

[RaptorsHood]

@Mauryd22 hell yea, future all star!