Pastor Tony Smith - No Instruments in Church?

[Kephas2012]

Good teachings

[123456qw6]

Secondly if he preaches about no music in church no instrument then his basically saying psalms is a fake...sad really

[MrMINISTER3000]

@123456qw6 hes being sarcastic...hes preaching against churches who dont believe in music...listen a little more closely

[123456qw6]

This guy needs to spend more time studying the bible and less time focusing in other preachers

[straq3]

This dude Is a joke Period

[kurtdublin]

@straq3 What asylum did this fool escape from?

[WFranklinW]

Instrumental music is part of the Old Testament Law like animal sacrifice and Jewish festivals. Does Tony Smith follow all of the practices in the OT Psalms??

[basicman101]

@WFranklinW true worship comes from the spirit that God has given us. But nothing wrong with clapping hands, stomping feet or playing an instrument as long as its accompanied by true spiritual worship.

[basicman101]

@WFranklinW true worship comes from the spirit that God has given us. But nothing wrong with clapping hands, stomping feet or playing an instrument as long as its accompanied by true spiritual worship.

[MrRanwolfe]

He is jealous of other pastors do you know how much he makes I hear he takes in 9000 a month

[basicman101]

but the bottom line is whether a congregation worship with musical instruments or not is really a NON ISSUE. It does not matter and has no bearing on their salvation. So don't spend a lot of time on small unimportant matters.

[thomjz]

Am I seeing ear ring in this brothers ears? And he is always preaching against other Pastor

[Major2219]

@thomjz

Were do you see a earring?

[thomjz]

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[dwjobseeker]

hes a clown!!!

[dwjobseeker]

anyone that knows the scriptures should realize we cannot rightly go to the old testament to try to justify,qualify what people desire to do today and call it worship to God...these people are more concerned with pleasing themselves. period!

[dwjobseeker]

this person is ignorant of the scriptures twisting them to his own destruction...he will remember his arrogance on that great day.

[lovedog49507]

@dwjobseeker RIGHT

[Lokuss09]

Jesus didn't have the disciples doing his job, so why do you have your yes men doing yours. It is so sad to see you leading people to ruin... You are just another form of Jim Jones. I guess your next demand will be for them to drink the KOOLAID. I find you to be very animated and hi

larious. You should take the plank out of your own eye before you can remove the speck out of your brothers eye.

[Lokuss09]

God comes in love so who are you to condemn anyone??? why do you have a bunch a men reading for you. my question to you is why can't you read for yourself????

[rafyraf100]

PRIDE IS OF THE DEVIL!!!!! AND THIS GUY IS FULL OF IT!!!!

[thepride724]

Well of course you Church of Christ people are gonna say "well that was in the Old Testament and the Old Testament was done away with."

[dachroof]

Someone may ask where in the bible does it say not to use instruments. Listen, use your deductive reasoning. If it is excluded, that means don't do it. We use unleavened bread and fruit of the vine for communion in remembrance of his suffering. It doesn't say we can't use cookies and milk! Though it doesn't say "don't use milk and cookies" we understand that we shouldn't. Its the same with instruments. The bible tells us to sing and make melody in our hearts, this excudes instramental music.

[dachroof]

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Those things in the Old Testament is for our learning, not our doing. Quit using OT to try to govern NT worship. The reason you go to the OT is because you cannot find it in the NT

[kac0404]

That was fine for David, but if Tony Smith would STUDY his bible, he would see where the Isrealites or Jews went wild worshiping God with the music, that's why he said in Amos 5:23 to Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. That is why under the New Testament, which is where we are today, the Bible says to sing.

[FitnessMinded]

Pastor Smith gotta relax. The pressure

[iHymn75]

Pastor Tony, while I applaud your use of the bible to back your claims on this point, I cannot agree with you calling (questioning) folk dumb! I grew up in the coC and know VERY well what we have professed for CENTURIES that is in error! However, just as it should have NEVER been the stance of the coC to belittle/condescend others, it surely doesn't help your stance at all by "returning the favor" as it were! In ALL things you do, do ALL in the name of the Lord...poking fun isn't one of 'em!

[ImGrowinUp]

More barriers put inbetween holy people while the opposition is as united as ever..smh..or wait is smh somehow unholy

[chillbrotha01]

Hey people....what does Hebrews 8:7 say?

[chillbrotha01]

is this guy serious?

FIRST - he is reading from the OLD TESTAMENT!!

enough said. I dont need to say anything else. if you worship according to the old testament then your WRONG

[jlmccree01]

@chillbrotha01 ...ole test. is for our LEARNING...it's funny how ppl will tk wat they want from ole test. to new test but if u tk one thing u hv to tk ALL!!!

[MrEMHudson]

preach preacher, get on those gays and lesbians. Don't waste time with the church of Christ, they are lost and on they way to hell. Keep hitting those gays.

[Porkchops2go]

@MrEMHudson , Do you have a heaven or hell to put someone in? Where is your love sir? This is Jesus you're professing to us? I really wish we'd allow ourselves open to an in depth study of the bible to decide what we do in worship...all of this bashing is sinful..

[Crownme1rst]

I'm noticing all the negative feedback this guy is getting but r u listening to what he's saying he backs everything with the bible, so what he's loud would you rather hear a soft lie or loud truth

[BogusJesus]

religion is foolishness.

[jerbar120]

danceing

[crimsonblood07]

this guy is too arrogant to be preaching, however i agree that instruments are ok in church by all means as long as you are worshiping from your heart. i know a good bit about the c of c and have been a few times and think there is a lot of good in them but they remind me of the pharisees in the bible, they are so focused on little things they cant see the big picture. much of the stuff they do is good and healthy for a church but they take it WAY too far..especially with baptism and salvation.

[loydchristmas0800]

@crimsonblood07 Not all C of C are the same. There are a lot of C of C out there that use instruments and not because we just don't care, but because we believe that IS what scripture supports through word studies and proper research. No matter what end of the spectrum people feel comfortable with, the instrument is not a salvation issue and to say it is is adding to scripture which is a big no no

[revholland1]

@loydchristmas0800 ....No instruments used in the NT. You can't build a theology on the etymology of a word-psalmos. Poor exegesis to say the least.

[chillbrotha01]

@revholland1 -- finally someone in here who has some sense

[mikedonovandad]

@revholland1 Where does it say that you CAN'T use instuments in the New Testament.

[iHymn75]

@mikedonovandad It DOESN'T say or even allude this! The real ?tion is why do you have to have them? Will we die if someone DOESN'T play drums, bass, organ or strings? We must ALL consider why proponents of "a cappella" and/or instrumental music are this way? God said SPIRIT and TRUTH but we turn it into "Sunday's Best" or "Christian Idol"! IF/AS the praise comes from the heart unto God, THAT is what is acceptable to HIM! We should be more serious about where His praise comes from!

Hymn

[mikedonovandad]

@iHymn75 The REAL question is why are you even talking to me about what the REAL question is. I'm not debating either/or. My point is simply that you can use whatever instrument or no instrument at all; but you can't outlaw something that the bible doesn't outlaw.

[iHymn75]

@mikedonovandad Again, we AGREE on what you just said. NO debate at all.

Hymn

[TheGmcelroy08]

@revholland1 Eph. 5:19"speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord." The phrase "making melody" is from the Greek word "psallontes"meaning "to rub or touch," "to twitch or twang." It's used in Greek for playing a stringed musical instrument. so the Bible neither forbids or commands musical instruments used in church. So the church can use them if it feels led of God to do. But you're right about Smith's poor exegesis

[revholland1]

@TheGmcelroy08 ....Yes, but you've answered your own point. Making melody where? 'In your HEART.'

[TheGmcelroy08]

@revholland1 I was actually refering to your statement that there were no instruments used in the New Testament and I showed you that there was, we just had to dig a little to find it

[revholland1]

@TheGmcelroy08 ....And which instruments did they use? The ref. to Paul's words should be read in full. The ref. is to making melody in your 'heart.' It doesn't matter what the Greek word says at all, its root meaning or whatever. The fact is that the early NT church rejected outright the use of musical instruments. That is attested by even church history, ranging from the writings of the early apostolic & church fathers. They did not use them.

[TheGmcelroy08]

@revholland1 And like i said, just because they didn't use them doesn't mean it's a sin to use instruments. It was their preference not to and that's fine.

[revholland1]

@TheGmcelroy08 ...no, they rejected them on theological grounds and not preference, believing such belonged to the Old Testament sacrificial system. We no longer offer up insence or slay lambs as Jesus has come and fulfilled such.

[Concatenate]

@TheGmcelroy08 "It was their preference not to and that's fine."

I think that it goes a bit further than a preference. Not only is there no command in the NT to use instruments, but early writings were actually hostile toward instruments used... read carefully... in the assembly practices of the church.

Also, recall Nadab and Abihu, who used a strange fire that the Lord had not commanded them, they were destroyed. The Lord commanded us to sing, and sing we shall.

[Porkchops2go]

@loydchristmas0800 , you're wrong..doesn't it just make since to render a sincere and pure worship service, from the voices, rather than some organ? Its truly a beautiful sound and honest devotion when u listen to accapella singing..all of that other stuff is mess..God wants u, not the drum

[chillbrotha01]

@crimsonblood07  WRONG

[revholland1]

This guy is so shallow in his interpretation of the Bible. There are no instruments used in the NT church. The early church rejected such in worship. Which is why they are absent in the NT. And don't misinterpret Revelation. Such is a symbolic book with much not literal. Instruments were part of the OT sacrificial system and past away in Christ. The 1st ever recorded use of any instrument was in AD 670. The Apostolic, Church Fathers, Reformers, Puritans, etc all rejected their use in churches.

[loydchristmas0800]

@revholland1 Just because there is no mention of instruments doesn't mean they rejected them. Nowhere in scripture will you find that. We don't know if they sat in pews or on the ground. We don't know if they gathered together to worship for two hours or five hours. We don't know how many songs they sang when they gathered, we don't know if they took communion first and then had a message or the other way around. We don't know because the information is just not there.

[revholland1]

@loydchristmas0800 ...Yes it does. You don't know church history. We do know what they sang. We do know that they stood for worship, that's the hearing of God's Word incase you didn't know. We do know that they put a great emphasize on the Lord's Supper. We do know quite a lot how the early church worshipped and how they did things. I'm afraid the only one who doesn't know is people like you. For example, church Fathers like Ireneus & many others rejected instruments outright.Do some reading!

[loydchristmas0800]

@revholland1 I obviously as well as most anyone know what a large portion of service was like durring those times. But, we don't know all the specifics. That was the point I was trying to prove. If you go into one C of C, worship will probablt be conducted a little different than the C of C in the next town over. The main parts of service would, well...SHOULD, be the same but small meaningless portions might be conducted differently. It was probably the same with the early Church.

[revholland1]

@loydchristmas0800 ...No it was not. We have numerous example from early church history as to how the early church worshipped. Once again, they rejected the use of instruments full stop. Why are you continuing to argue against the facts. Why don't you use your time more wisely and do some reading of church history. Get off youtube and read. We have extant writing of the early apostolic & church Fathers you give us many examples how the church worshipped. Normally with just 2 psalms.

[loydchristmas0800]

@revholland1 You should look up Psalmos and pay attention to the definition. Also, I do not agree with rock bands and all that stuff. Conservative hyms with a piano doesn't take away or distract people from worship. Unfortunately the civil war played a large role in all of this.

[revholland1]

@loydchristmas0800 ....Old Testament. My model, as was the early church, is not the OT but the NT. Do you use incense in worship? I hope you do because it's there in the OT. Do you sacrifice lambs as they are there too. The early church, the Reformers, the Puritans, the Evangelical Awakening preachers all rejected the use of instruments, as did CH Spurgeon. The rise of such came in the 19th cent.

[loydchristmas0800]

@revholland1 If the NT was your model then like I said you should pay more attention to Psalmos. I never even mentioned anything about the OT being a model for worship, thats absurd. Just because the reformers and so on rejected them doesn't mean the early church did. You can not no matter how hard you try use scripture to say they rejected them like you claim. To say you absolutely cannot have an instrument or to say you absolutely need one is speaking where God doesn't

[loydchristmas0800]

@revholland1 The instrument is not a salvation issue. If you make it one then you are adding to scripture.

[revholland1]

@loydchristmas0800 ....I never made it a salvation issue and neither did anyone else. But it is a purity of worship issue. And an exposing of a man who is preaching and making it an issue, without knowing his facts or subject. This guy is not qualified to be a preacher. 

[airlineplt]

This man knows the bible better than most every "bishop" I've ever heard of. People love to focus on nonsense like the "Church" of Christ. Tony simply focuses on the WORD.

[blackshogun9]

love ur videos pastor, there is alot of things i was taught wrong and that im learning cause im reading and seeing what the book says and when i confront the preacher he has nothing to say, or dont want to talk about it, and im waiting for ur comment on the so called long, and i also read the qualifications of a bishop, pastor and deacon and i confronted my father about it cause he was divorced at one time and i told him thats not what the book says, he had not comment

[hairspeaks]

why do people get mad at this man when he is standing up for God ? he could be out doing dirt but hes getting persecuted for righteousness sake! i love him!

[olh1152]

@yahschild87, it proves religion is a total bull and man made. One bible and everybody interpret it differently.

[AquaHarmony]

Yeah, this is what I also do agree with him on! Even if you don't know the Bible, it should be COMMON SENSE that having music in the church isn't against the Word of God!!!! Come on Church of Christ, you don't Biblically make sense! Just because the world can take music and make it bad, don't make music EVIL! Just like anything ordained by God, Satan can try to take it over, for his use, but he will fail everytime!!!!!!

[tassiespirit]

If we do not praise Him , then the rocks will cry out.....

[olh1152]

@tassiespirit, I do not praise him. Do you literally believe that a rock will cry out? You need to understand literature when someone uses figurative language when they are writing.

[Liberatedchristian]

It's absolutely okay to praise God with musical instruments!

few churches like Church of Christ,Brethren,Baptist deny it though!

[chunter37]

not ours...praise God!

[shelly2shoe]

read psalms it talk about string insturments harps singing

[v8diva]

The psalms also says 'in the dance' but many churches have a problem with that. 'sigh'