Armenian Genocide | Comcast broadcast OCT 07 | Part 2

[muhamed1025]

1915-ci ildə, döyüş örtüsü altında, Osmanlı hökumətinin 1,75 haqqında anda) tamamilə Türkiyənin erməni əhalisi (sınırdışı qərar verdi. Onların planı Suriya və Mezopotamya (indi İraq) çöllerinde sürgün üzvü. Ermənilərin yüz minlərlə evlərində və ya katledildi ya da çıxarıldı öldülər qədər qüvvət çöldə getdi

[muhamed1025]

Türkiyəyə Almaniya səfiri ev yazdı: "Hökumət həqiqətən Erməni yarış Exterminating hədəfinə izlemektedir Osmanlı İmperiyası '. 1915 və 1923 tarixi Ermənistanın qərb seqmentində arasında Ermənilərin boşalttı oldu. Ölüm bilançosu İnformasiya bir milyonun üzərində olduğu təxmin edilməkdədir. Olanlar Orta Şərq, Rusiya və ya ABŞ qaçdı ölmedi.

Avropa

[ArmenianCreditCard]

wow. i cant believe the shit u guys are saying. its like u are denying the holocaust. thats a joke. this actually happened and for those of u who think its a joke, go to hell. the people that are actually closed on this info are the turks.

[FuLLiTurk]

Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed

[yigitaslan1]

I dont belive at this genoicede because armenians make war against Turkey and they killed turks maybe they allsaw was killed maybe 1000 people and then they make it to 1,500,000 people dont think sow...They are liars...Im pretty shore

[yigitaslan1]

This genoicide is a liee maybe in war they were killed 1000 people and they make it today to 1,5 miliyon were or all the skellet bodies of 1,5 milion then...This is liee

[arthurkirakosyan7]

learn a thing or two about history then message me, don't think you are prepared enough to prove me wrong about it. Because trust me you aren't

[zograp8]

The Turks here are blatant fabricators of lies and they despratley try to hide the crimes of one of the most brutal empires in history

the Ottomans managed to carve themselves as the most barbaric conquers in past 1000 years.

[lambipokii]

it angers me when Armenians talks abut the jewish genocide when thay had armenian nazis in the world war two

[arthurkirakosyan7]

Armenian nazis? Nazis were only German, Hitler hated Armenians after he was finished with the Jews he was going to continue on with the Armenians. Armenians weren't nazis we are such peaceful people we haven't declared war on any country even at our greatest powers, i can easily prove you wrong on how the Armenian Genocide did in fact happen.

[tellyoutrue]

Well, Arthur, unfortunately when you immerse yourself in your propaganda and nothing else, you will be making such untrue statements. The fact is, Armenia started/provoked wars w/ three countries just after WWI's end. European Armenians flocked to Nazi armies in WWII, one commanded by Dro, 20,000 strong. I see in your user page your icon features urination on the Turkish flag, and you have declared "I hate turks...azeris." Shame on you. There can be no arguing with a hateful person as yourself.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

Armenia never attack any countries even at its greatest powers, what 3 countries did we fight with? turkey was doing genocide tot he Armenians throughtout WWI. Shame on me? 1.5million of my people dead (including women and children), my churches burned, my literature burned, and my land taken away, shame on turkey not me. azeri btw declared war on Armenia and after we won they began calling it genocide.

[tellyoutrue]

Problem: you have not cared to educate yourself. You are passionate about this subject, and all you have read are the propagandistic sources that feed your emotions. That is not the way to get at the truth, but when you have a religious fervor, truth has little priority. You were wrong on the Nazis and you are wrong about genocide. 1.5 m was the total pop, & 1 million survived, the rest mainly dying of hunger. Georgia/Azerbaijan & Turkey were the three nations, the last one provoked into war.

[tellyoutrue]

Not that you will care, unfortunately, but to better understand what was happening regarding the hunger, go to:

watch?v=GoV5YkntA_g

You see, everyone was dying of hunger and sickness in the Ottoman Empire. To prove genocide, you need evidence of "INTENT." It is one thing to relocate a rebellious people during wartime, another to intentionally exterminate. But even if everything was as you believe, of course you need to be ashamed of yourself for your expressions of deep hatred.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

ok message me on the inbox and I will prove you wrong there. Lets just say that Armenians were only starved to death, if someone today was to kill somebody with a gun they would get the same punishment as somebody who starved another person, it doesn't matter how you killed them turks took lives away, i'm not saying thats the only way they killed them but I'm showing you how it doesn't matter.

[tellyoutrue]

I can see our discussion will be moot. Your rationality has been compromised, as you are too emotionally drawn in. Look at what you've said here: "it doesn't matter." You've proven your ignorance on what is necessary for genocide: evidence for INTENT, I had even explained this in the previous note, but it just went over your head. Armenians starved because everyone was starving, even the soldiers. By your reasoning, the Turks would have also committed a genocide on their own soldiers.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

by saying "it doesn't matter" I was making a point, its pretty obvious that I was making a point you just seem to ignore what I wrote before that. I said message my inbox which you didn't do. Your the first ever person to say that the turks were being starved to their is no proof, why would turkey let its soldiers starve it doesn't make sence, your statements aren't backed up by evidence and you fail to see me point.

[tellyoutrue]

I am sorry, Arthur, but your logic if fallible. Yes, you were making a point when you wrote "it doesn't matter," and your point was that starving is the same thing as murder, which is ridiculous. For genocide, you need to prove intent. Anyone can see I'm not ignoring what you're saying (assuming you make yourself clear), and everything I am presenting is backed by evidence. Perhaps you fail to understand, because you don't know what "evidence" means. If you have proof of intent, present it here.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

once again u failed to message my inbox, it doesn't take a rock scientist to do so. Armenians were murdered and raped at the genocide. LETS JUST SAY, that we were "only" starved, wouldn't you get the same sentence in court if u shot someone or locked someone in a chamber and let them starve to death? go do your research, murder is murder. Today i was at an Armenian festival and i read a shirt that was a very smart idea, it said Armenian Genocide denied on it and then Darfur it said pending...

[tellyoutrue]

You're going to keep on believing what you choose to believe no matter what, because rationality has long left you. Nobody is saying some Armenians weren't murdered, but in order to prove genocide, you must present the evidence that connects the government. You don't have it, and messaging your inbox is hardly relevant. The relocated Armenians were NOT locked in a chamber." Unlike the U.S. Japanese in WWII, the Armenians were not imprisoned, but free to move about. They starved as everyone else.

[zograp8]

1. fuck non stop Rep. Cohen of Tennessee is an Armenian Genocide denier. 1915: The Armenian Holocaust engineered by the ruling Jews of The Young Turks, leaves 1.5 million Armenian Christians starved, tortured, and murdered

[tellyoutrue]

Just looked into Cohen. He never denied your genocide. He only refused to support the resolution, because he was doing his congressional duty, putting U.S. interests first. Why don't you provide a source where Cohen said there was no genocide? Why don't you also source where Talat, Enver and Jemal were Jewish? And how could 1.5 m. die if there were 1.5 m. to begin with and 1 m. survived? You are just out of control, you care nothing about the truth, and are truly a pitiful and obsessed person.

[zograp8]

Ffs, why the hell can't you stupid theiving reckless brutal messed up turks just accept that ur grandparents cowardly slaughtered !!more than 2 million people!!! (1 in every 2500 people on earth at that time). Ur government is soo phucked up, it obviously massacred half the armenian population, and now its calling them the bad guys, wtf!?!?! how fukin humane is that>??

[tellyoutrue]

For those who can maintain at least a little openness to truth can understand the starvation conditions of the Ottoman Empire that all were subjected to (including the soldiers), by watching:

"British Responsibility for the Armenian Genocide"

watch?v=GoV5YkntA_g

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[zograp8]

Turks are only one people who can massacre babies in their mothers stomach and who can betray and backstab every one who once trusted them even in their most miserable times! Turks also played a BIG ROLE in HITLER's ARMY while massacring the JEWISH people whereas Armenians always helped JEWS and all nations. Turks are known worldwide by their enormeous killer and rubber habits.TRADITION! SO FUCK ALL turks turks Turks are only

[tellyoutrue]

This is one scary character here. He doesn't care about making grotesquely inaccurate statements like neutral Turkey "played a big role in Hitler's army." (They must have served under Dro, whose Nazi Armenian army was 20,000 strong), and that "Armenians always helped Jews." (Yes, Nazi Armenians stationed in Holland, for example, must have done their best to keep Jews from the gas chambers.) What is worse, he is so overtaken by vicious hatred, he really thinks he is scoring points with his posts.

[tellyoutrue]

"Turkey" (its correct name: the Ottoman Empire) did not "LET" its soldiers starve. Any more than "Turkey" let its Armenians starve. The point is, there was not enough food to go around, which means there was NO CHOICE. And you really revealed your terrible ignorance by stating "their is no proof." The poor lot of the soldiers is very common knowledge (ex: Liman von Sanders); even some Armenians pointed to soldiers not having enough to eat (ex: Leon Surmelian, "I Ask You Ladies and Gentlemen.")

[zograp8]

i also believe in afterlife and justice. For what you Turks did, not even words can explain what will happen to you once you die or whats happening to the people responsible for the genocide right now.

Also, IT WAS NOT A WAR!!! Get that into ur little heads, soldier vs soldier=war

SOLDIER VS CIVILIAN=MASSACE/GENOCIDE/BRUT­AL MEANINGLESS EXECUTION.

You will never be forgiven, neither will you children, for you will never learn to tell the world the truth!"

[tellyoutrue]

The reason why you kill your credibility is because you feel very free in making any false statement, as with Turks being in Hitler's armies and with Armenians helping Jews. When you get called on it, you then pretend nothing happened, and you just move on to your next point of propaganda.

As many as 100,000 Ottoman-Armenians fought "war" either by joining Allies or by staying behind; most of the rest supported the war in other ways besides arms. Read Boghos Nubar admission in Times of London.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

should show evidence.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

well that took a while to reply, so if the Soviet Union as in the Russians did genocide they shouldn't be blamed for genocide? dumb ass! wtf are you talking about, you make no sence at all, u try to seem like u know what ur talking about but u dont.

[tellyoutrue]

Only individuals can be convicted of genocide, not nations. In answer to your question, anyone who is guilty of genocide should certainly be blamed for it. For example, when Armenians mass murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims and Jews and others, they should be blamed for it, but the biased world ignores these crimes. Your problem is that it is not enough to just "say" the Turks committed a genocide. You must prove it. and you must come up with the factual evidence for "intent."

[arthurkirakosyan7]

Tell me where you got that from, your first sentence because im cracking up. Why would Armenians be murdering muslims and Jews, by muslim you probably mean the turks, and why would Armenians attack a country that has over 10 times the population? The Jews never said that we massacred them ever the only blamed the Germans for genocide nobody else so don't make false statements. Evidence? What more can we do, we showed you the bodies, we showed the pictures, and the victims tell us how else we...

[zograp8]

The Turks here are blatant fabricators of lies and they despratley try to hide the crimes of one of the most brutal empires in history

the Ottomans managed to carve themselves as the most barbaric conquers in past 1000 years.

The atrocities committed by Turks against Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Greeks, Serbians, Romanians, Arabs, Bulgarians and almost all nationalities that were under Ottoman rule is documented by most reliable historical institutions ( except Turkish Historical Society)

[zograp8]

ass o marikon . . hepinizin anaisi sikim.amina kodugum turkleri.koymus beton mustafayi anaisini siktiklerim.ataturku okadar seviyorlarki bunlarin analarini . ataturk sikmis hepsi ayni babadan .  ben Königswinter de oturuyorum . merak etme Pezeveng senin sülaleni üst üste koyup öle sikiyim

Fuck Azerbaijan

[AthensAnna]

and why should they? they've murdered millions of them already!

[tellyoutrue]

This "director" tells us "Turkey claims Armenian Christians" were traitors. If he were an honest man (he grew up in Fresno, brainwashed through all of the propaganda), he could have researched and seen it was Armenians like Boghos Nubar, Hovhannes Katchaznouni, and Armen Garo who told us the same, and it's not like "Turkey" was making it up. Then he tells us 1.5 million were all "butchered," although most died of famine/disease as most of the other 2.5 million other Ottomans who died.

[AthensAnna]

Ah, tellyouttrue. Ha. Every Armenian video has its token turkish genocide denier, and this one's yours, eh?

Turks who deny the genocide: hardest working people in show biz :)

[tellyoutrue]

Notes on the "more info" section, top right: Even Armenian scholar Robert John has shown the Hitler quote to be a fake, so why is Tomlstone pointing to it? There were 235 arrested on April 24 (Ara Sarafian), not 300, and they were not all "killed." Some were released, others imprisoned, and others executed, the price for treason. The pre-war population was 1.5 million -- not 2.1 million. Balakian & Dadrian tell us 1 million survived, but Tomlstone says nearly half (2.1 m. minus 1.5 m.)!

[tellyoutrue]

The Ottoman Empire brought about independent Armenia and recognized it in 1918, for which Avetis Aharonian, in a telegram to Hovhannes Katchaznouni, wrote the Armenian nation would always be grateful. (Aharonian then signed the Turkey-killing Sevres Treaty.) Turkey was perhaps the first nation to recognize Armenia when the Soviet Union dissolved. Turkey has opened her doors to thousands of poor Armenians in search of jobs. He who LOL's without knowing the facts is the real "idiot."

[purejr]

If you live in Turkey you know nothing but propaganda, unfortunately. The Turkish territory is built and maintained on historical lies. The Turkish people today are not really Turks either. They are the descendants of victim groups who were forced to become Muslims after their parents were killed by barbaric hordes. It's an artificial culture built on violence that they carry out daily against their minorities today. They don't belong in Europe.

[tmoda61]

Pureir- The attitute you are displaying is exactly the kind of racism that has been built up against Turks from your Diaspora.You write about Turkey and its people as if you 'would know', for everything you think you know has been poured into you with one-sided 'grandpa' stories. You write nothing about the Armenian propoganda that has brainwashed people one generation after another.The result is 'you' and your prejudism.

[purejr]

The information on the Armenian and Pontian Greek genocides is widely available by a host of primary sources who were eye witnesses - Europeans and Americans alike.

A brief look at a Turkish map will show you the names of Greek and Armenian cities that are now exclusively occupied by Muslim Turks. A trip to Turky will also verify the Greek and Armenian historical presence in a host of monuments, buildings, churches, etc. The builders are now dead or displaced. That is genocide, not propaganda.

[shazenush]

well, apparently this guy does not even know who governs the Turkey, then it is not convincing that he says he is trying to get Turkish opinion whin he does not know anything about Turkey.

Is Hitler your resource when preparing a documentary. And I really wonder what kind of resources you used in this documentary.

If you need real archieves, contact to Anatolia (Anadolu) University Archeology dept.

They have plenty of real information

[Jazzgin]

funny puppets

=)

[Turkuaz0906]

poor armenian propaganda!you can´t rewrite historical truths with money and lies.proofs are basics for history which you don´t have.You slaughtered us turks in anatolia,killed azerbaycan turks in hocali,occupied karabag and asala has assassinated over 70 turkish ambassadors all over the world.and we CAN proof all these things!come and look at the turkish massgraves in anatolia.armenians have committed genocide against TURKS.FACING THE TRUTH IS SO HARD FOR YOU

[souloftherain]

Following text is taken from the manifesto which is presented to the Convention of foreign branches of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation convened during April, 1923 by Hovannez Katchhaznouni

Anyone interested in this subject can find the copy of original report with the name:

The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagtzoutiun) Has Nothing to Do Any More

The Manifesto of Hovhannes Katchaznouni, First Prime Minister of the Independent Armenian Republic

[souloftherain]

The deportations and mass exiles and massacres which took place during the Summer and Autumn of 1915 were mortal blows to the Armenian Cause. Half of historical Armenia —the same half where the foundations of our independence would be laid according to traditions inherited from the early eighties and as the result of the course adopted by European diplomacy — that half was denuded of Armenians: the Armenian provinces of Turkey were without Armenians.

[souloftherain]

The Turks knew what they were doing and have no reason to regret today. It was the most decisive method of extirpating the Armenian Question from Turkey.

Hovannez KATCHAZNOUNI

[DMGIT]

Law professor Raphael Lemkin, who coined the term "genocide" in 1943, has stated that he did so "because it happened so many times... First to the Armenians, then after the Armenians, Hitler took action."

[DMGIT]

Yossi Beilin

Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister. April 27, 1994 on the floor of the Knesset in response to a TV interview of the Turkish Ambassador

It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember... We will always reject any attempt to erase its record, even for some political advantage

[nigzesx]

The university of yerevan awarded ahmedinejad an honorary doctorate.

ps.HE'S A HOLOCAUST DENIER LOL,do you see the infinite irony in this.Here we have a desperate diaspora pulling all the stunts they can to slaunder and villify the Turks at every oppurtunity they get,And what do they do?

They praise the man who organised a holocaust denial conference.LMTurkishAO,you sanctimonious scheming low lifes

[BeautySavesWorld]

Trying to make Armenians feel sorry for Turkish death during WW1 is the same as to try to make Jews sorry for Nazis death during WW2...None of both victims had anything to do with the death of their killers...

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

Differences:

Turks are not Nazi, as Germans are not Nazi as well

Turkish death was civilian death, they were killed by Armenian gang tashnak and hınçak

[BeautySavesWorld]

@tolgaoztemur

Turks are worth than nazis, Nazis accepted killing of Jews, Turks committed genocide of Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks and Christians Lebanese as well as Kurds later on and deny up to now, even trying ot put the blame on the victims, some of them managed to defense the,selves and survive...

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

You can not blame Turks, for your way of acceptance of the facts. They can not be evilized because they are in disagreement. No one is evil becaue they denie Genocide. They can not be condemned for what they understand from it.

Turks are not Nazi like as Germans are not Nazi. No matter what they think about 1915.

Beauty saves the world. Hatret is too ugly.

[BeautySavesWorld]

@tolgaoztemur

It is not our way of acceptance, it is GENOCIDE...Beauty will be able to save the world only when we beat the ugliness- denying the genocide...Germans faced their history and condemned it, now it i Turkish turn...Turks have done damage to Armenians much more than Germans could ever dream of...U took our lands, our women, our kids under 5 , and the rest were brutally raped and massacred...u took our history...u represent our history as urs renaming all names...even Ararat

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

Some Turks may accept it as Genocide some do not. Will you hate from those who accept, will you be friendly to those who disagree?

How humanistic, and beautifull of you... How does it feel feeling humane and at the same time hating humanity?

I haven't took your land. I wasn't even there. You never had a land in Anatolia, because you have never been there. But if you want come and be my friend. May be it will sooth your disease.

[BeautySavesWorld]

@tolgaoztemur

Anatolia is native Armenian land which Turks invaded and occupied, massacred ppl and took the lands and the history renaming everything and claiming otherwise...U r the last ones to talk humanity if u can't even apologise and accept ur oen bloody history

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

Talking about humanity is not conditional. I know I am a human. Accepting or not accepting something as truth don't make any one bad or good. It depend on how you think about the facts only. Not matter of good will or bad will.

If one can't show maturity to person A's thinking, It is not problem of person A. It is not bussines of him either. Hatreth have never been clean. It makes one too ugly.

[BeautySavesWorld]

@tolgaoztemur

U talk abstract, in reality it might well be my family was massacred by yours, it might well be u live in my own house, it might well be you eat from the trees planted by my great great fathers for us...honestly, u r the last one to preach humanity or beauty, especially to us,Armenians, who loosing in the most brutal way everything still live,prosper and create beauty...

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

Your grandfathers lost their home in tragedic way, under bad conditions. I didn't want them to lose their lifes, and experience tragedies, as well as I didn't want people to experience terrible things, no matter what their language and religion is.

I know I don't aprove any tragedies better than you who knows nothing about me.

[BeautySavesWorld]

@tolgaoztemur

Almost nobody in my ( also extended) family survived and I know nothing abt tragedy? OK, then...

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

You know bit of what they experienced, because you haven't experienced what they experienced.(probably).

It is something like trying to know taste of a food, given the recipie of it.

Your hatret doesn't hurth me, because I am an unknown person for you. I don't know you either. I haven't broken your hearth either.

You don't allow me to show empaty, and understanding, only because you refuse me with your hate as you refuse any people for their being of Turkish nat.

[BeautySavesWorld]

@tolgaoztemur

I don't hate anyone but I don't have much to talk about with Turks who deny the genocide...

[tolgaoztemur]

@BeautySavesWorld

I don't understand Armenians. If Anatolia is much important for them, why don't they come? If your problem is with my being Turkish, why don't you solve it with me?

If one hate another for their nationality. It is too ugly. It can not be excused by a tragedy experienced by your grandfathers.

[tonylinderman]

An attempt by the Ottomans to systematically relocate the Armenian people, not comparable to what the Nazis committed upon the Jews.Many Armenians settled in America and Europe needed a form of ethnic identity, considered it their duty to perpetuate this myth, by fabricating a genocide story, with no regard for facts, by breeding hatred among their youngsters.

[AthensAnna]

Tony Linderman, what sort of qualude are you on, man? Have you read Talaat Bey's memo about killing Armenians at any cost? And why did Turks round up Armenian intellectuals and kill them if it wasn't systematic genocide? Oh, why bother. You want to stay in your darkness, God help you. Perhaps youc can't conceive how dark the human heart can be.

you're right...not comparable...worse.

Turkey's history is the bloodiest ever,

[AthensAnna]

How would you feel if you were raped, went to the police, and they said, "It's a myth, it didn't happen, I'm sure the men who raped you had their reason. And shame on you for going on about it." Turkey is the rapist and the murderer, and the millions destroyed by Turkey have every reason to speak up until that accursed country admits that it happened. And you, who have no knowledge or connection to that dark era, presume to tell those who know it too well, that it never happened? Shame..

[jarjar2b]

how come the millions destroyed by the turks ... still be able to speak up ?

cause they were not destroyed in the first place.

[paulkasabian]

"jarjar"stupid turk,stupid answer,anything new?go clean street turk,

[jarjar2b]

you're just pathetic. go get yourself a life instead of chasing a lie

[tellyoutrue]

How would AthensAnna feel if she were accused of murder on no evidence? It is not honorable to conclude "Turkey is the rapist and murderer" if AthensAnna is shooting from her biased heart and not her brain. If her brain was working, as well as her honor, she would consult credible sources. How does she prove genocide? She is actually pointing to "Talaat Bey's memo about killing Armenians at any cost." This would be Aram Andonian's forged telegrams from the Memoirs of Naim Bey. SHAME.

[onelegacy]

tellyoutrue clearly you have no idea what your on about and if any one has been brainwashed by propaganda its you. no evidence of genocide? now thats a terribly stupid thing to say.

How sad that the world has people like you in it.

[tellyoutrue]

You can't say I'm brainwashed when what I'm presenting are Armenian sources to show what malarkey this genocide is. And who would be brainwashing me? Even if I were a native Turk, this subject was avoided in the schools. If you really want to show how "stupid" I am, then present the evidence you are so sure is in existence. I've looked at it all, and all I see are hearsay & forgeries. Real evidence is the kind that comes from, say, DIRECT eyewitnesses, as Russians on Armen-committed mass murder.

[onelegacy]

your dangerously ignorant and not worth my time or anyone else's. I would normally tell someone like you to clue up but thats not the case...there is more then enough evidence to support the intentional killing of Armenians by turks but providing it to someone like you would really mean nothing.

[tellyoutrue]

We can tell from your style you're a true intellectual. But instead of hurling insults, let me say you're dead wrong. Unlike you, I take the scientific approach; if I see real evidence I can be convinced. I just made the point there isn't any, and challenged you to present it; as typical, you made a baseless blanket statement, as a child would say, yes there IS! The trick is for you to factually implicate the govt; that would be "genocide." Search YT for Stillfester for all your non-evidence.

[tellyoutrue]

In short: the British set out to hold the first Nuremberg, the Malta Tribunal (1919-21); at first they were set to implicate the Turks in kangaroo court fashion, just like the 1919-20 Ottoman courts-martial, whose findings the Brits rejected. But their Indian Muslims said be on the level, and the Brits conducted their research honestly. They could not find a stitch of evidence. Consuls, missionaries, NYTimes, US archives, Patriarch- all were hearsay/forgeries. Go ahead; tell us of your evidence.

[arthurkirakosyan7]

would u like to prove to me how it wasn't genocide? i will prove you wrong no doubt about it, if u want to try go for it.

[tellyoutrue]

Arthur, you read above that even the British could not find evidence. If there is no evidence, there is no crime. The burden of proof rests on the accuser. Your proof is going to boil down to "my grandmother told me." You can post your endless propaganda, all hearsay/forgeries, but there is little sense, since you offer faith, not reason. No matter what is presented to you, you won't care.

The fake evidence in a nutshell:

watch?v=FDjK9wJKCgw

[tellyoutrue]

Unfortunately, "u" don't sound like an intellectual. Like your predecessor above, you are just showing bluster. None of the above points already made has sunk in; if it did, and if you had the real evidence to counter what you felt was wrong, you would have offered the evidence. Instead, you childishly chose to ask me to throw the ball again, when the ball of this exchange is already on the side of your court.

Since you asked, some of the real evidence

disproving genocide :

watch?v=gfzqQftIPWs

[Noblerace]

turkey cant do a damn thing but you will see what US will do to turkey just be patient and watch how turkey pays Armenians aND Assyrians.

[paulkasabian]

YES "NOBLERANCE" one day very soon,we will see.all that turks pay back,what they did to Armenians,Assyrians,Greeks,

[gokhangmr]

around 09:40 the man talks about sitting down with turks and resolve the issue. hasn't the turkish pm called for reconsiliation with armenia? what kind of fantasy world is this guy living in?

[nycistanbul]

Nothing should be an excuse for you to ignore the interests of Armenia. You are for yourself?

[AthensAnna]

what is the best way that we can help Armenia?

Do you know practical steps we can take?

[nycistanbul]

Here's the Turkish view point:

Turks evaporate when they die. It does not matter when a Turk dies. Does Armenian Diaspora really think WW1 did not happen.

[nycistanbul]

A recent poll conducted by the International Republican Institute, suggests that the people of Armenia—unlike their brothers and sisters in the diaspora—may be ready for change. Only 3% of respondents said that recognition of the genocide was their first priority. A mere 4% listed it at all. For many, finding a job is their chief worry.

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Soaring above with wings wide Our hawks watch with blaring eyes Don't be afraid we will kill swift We are the children of Hayek Never will we forget Our children you take We are coming your time is end Don't be afraid we will kill swift We are the children of Hayek Blame not yourself or crescent in hand As judgment is near for your mistake helpless you fill blood will rain. We are the children of Hayek Long LIVE HAYASTAN Great Armenia. From West to East our Hawks are watching YOU!