@roddy35wv I have a prophecy that in my next video, someone will dislike it. I also have a prophecy that there will be at least one comment, and that people will have mixed emotions about it in their brains......Does this mean I can see the future? No, somethings are just obvious. If I was going to write a book that I knew people were going to be skeptical about then I would mention that people will be skeptical about it. Its' called common sense not foreseeing the future Einstein.
A disembodied consciousness at death shouldn't be desirable to anyone...Without a body you have no sexual organs, no taste buds, and no brain to produce chemical reactions. That means no sex, no tasting great food, and no being intoxicated...I'd much rather be unaware that I couldn't do those things anymore rather than be aware of what I'm missing for eternity.
Logically, an afterlife really doesn't make sense. I mean, do animals get an afterlife as well? How about plants and microscopic organisms, like bacteria? Are they on the "other side" too? When we go to the afterlife, are we conscious and capable of rational thought? Can we sense others in the afterlife? If so, are our senses the same as when we were alive?
You've only got one life people. Enjoy it. Don't waste it waiting for something more.
Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
Was sodomite Christ' Hitchens' hollow death an early Christmas gift, or retribution for the total-war that he endorsed against the mothers & children of the Arab sphere?
You are the worst kind of troll. Hitch, like many others, experimented with his sexuality in his teenage years. so fucking what? your bullshit comments, and your wholly farcical name "procommenter" has just earned you a ban from this channel.
forgive me for being "unprofessional", but I think I can echo the thoughts of many viewers by saying this:
FUCK YOU. You pathetic, backward, knuckle-dragging, fairy-tale believing, closed-minded, religious vomitstain.
He was a great intellect and he was a man of reason and he was never afraid to speak his mind and he was never afraid to stand up for what he believed in, it's sad that hes gone but the good thing is is that his legacy will live on, RIP Hitch.
i agree - insensitive and tactless, but mostly to institutions of boundless insensitivity and tactlessness themselves, so every bit of vitriol was well deserved. though he was know to be quite short and sharp with the audience as well, but nobody's perfect...thankfully! thanks for watching.
There's nothing brilliant about stating the obvious but putting down religious nutbags in an elegant manner with class and style now that's brilliant.
@worldoslamicorder.....wow, I have been overcome by the brilliant statement you have made...PRAISE ALLAH!!!...anyways, since you have already gotten a hard-on from my statement, let me say this...how could you (with the capability if respirating and responding as you do) believe that a man like Christopher Hitchens noy know the truth underlying humanity..
Oh no no - he's just dead. his flesh and bones rotting into the soil over the next few years, or his ashes in an urn somewhere.
Hell is only for the living, those of us who remain here and have to put up with the endless drivel of religious nutbags, brainwashed individuals who continually spout dogmatic, vomitous mouth-diarrhea, not to realising their beliefs are the biggest, most successful con job in history, costing them the joy of only life they have.
Religious beliefs only affect your life and the direction you want it to take because you let it in via your own bigoted views and intolerance. Your attestation to the non existence of an afterlife is a testament to tiresome atheistic twaddle.
@WorldIslamicOrder lovely name very hostile . christopher hitchens took philosophy to a whole different level. he is a pure example of critical reading. while your religion even if it might be true has caused humanity to regress in many forms.even if islam is true you can see atheists live happier,healthier,less violent lifes while muslims are either agreesive,inferior,unhappy and if its the true religion then who is really right Sunnah ( 90%) or shia (15%) KTAB ALLAH W AHLU BAITI (bukhari)
Totally. being dead holds no fear for me, because I would not be around to lament my lack of life... but yes, the process of dying slowly - that's something everyone can rightly be afraid of. That's why I support people right to choose the time, place and manner of their death if they want to. If you've not heard of him, I refer you to Terry Pratchett as a case in point...
If there was such thing as eternal life we would have always existed. Yet we know exactly when we were born and as far as we know we did not exist before that point. Eternal life can't begin in some afterlife when we pass away. Something infinite has no beginning or end therefore if life were eternal we would already be experiencing eternal life.
Oh well.. he's an atheist so need to be sentimental. He IS NOT resting in peace. In fact there is no longer any Christopher Hitchens his personality is dead. "HE" is dead. So there is nothing resting. It is only a cold flesh sac corpse now.
@Josephjoel3 Sentiment and remembrance is the only thing that lasts as far as we know. It's amazing that we are even able to contemplate these things, I hope that humans will be able to drag themselves up someday to be equal to their mental abilities. Some, like Hitchens, attempt to pave the way.
@apsarajet I hate to be a downer but sentiment and remembrance does not last. There is no permanence at all anywhere. There is a quote that says that the only constant is change. Change is a fluctuation of patterns. So even this is not constant. In regards to Hitchens he was a powerful intellectual, but all his intellect was for naught. Humanity as a collective is still superstitious backward and inefficient, and this has been the case since history immemorial.
You live on in your children. you, as a person, may die and be forgotten but what you teach your kids, they will teach theirs and bit by bit this will change the world. "My three delightful children are my only chance of at a second life, or even an immortal one. And I'll tell you something; if I was told to sacrifice them to prove my devotion to God and admire the man who said, "Yes, I'll GUT MY KID to show my love of God." I'd say, No... FUCK YOU!" - Christopher Hitchens
@Josephjoel3 They don't last but that's all we have. One has to be humble enough to accept that. A fear of death, beyond just survival instinct, came with our big brains and unfortunately leads people to hope for a hereafter. Agreed. But even athiests can be sentimental and humane when thinking about the dead. Hitchens might be plant food now but I can still enjoy his work.
@apsarajet Hope is the universal human blunder and foible. We all live and die in hope. Are you familiar with the greek myth of Pandora's box? The last thing to come out of it was hope. Some have interpreted this as a positive. That even in the midst of evil at least there is hope it will change or get better. I say that hope is the greatest evil to come out of that box. It keeps us clinging to the falsehood that in evil there is the capability of change. In evil there is ONLY evil.
RIP Christopher Hitchens. you were an inspiration to thousands, if not millions of rational minded secularists across the globe, and your tireless fight against ignorance and bigotry will mean your legacy will live on. Your suffering is over, but the world is a poorer place without you.
I realize it's simiply a convention, but do you understand that "RIP" (i.e. "rest in peace") is literally meaningless--at least to someone of CH's persuasion?
Whenever I see/hear RIP I feel like I'm in the middle of a Monty Python sketch: " 'E's not dead, 'e's restin'! "
Well, Christopher Hitchens is not restin'--except, perhaps, in the physics sense--'e's stone dead.
Certainly i understand that - but much like I'll say "bless you" when someone sneezes, or say "GOD DAMN IT!" when things don't go my way, they are, as you, say merely a convention.
The sentiment, when i say Rest in Peace, is more one of respect, and a feeling of relief that he is no longer in pain, than any indication that i think he is merely resting.
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On Tuesday 11 Sep. '01, W.T.C. 7 (altho it was hit by no plane) collapsed, @ free-fall speed, 20 mins. AFTER the B.B.C. announced its demise. Some conspiracy theorists claim that 19 Arabs, who appear on no passenger-lists, crashed jumbo jets into 3 landmark buildings at 580 M.P.H. Of course that speed exceeds design & structural tolerances for air buses at elevations below 1,000 feet as the drag rips them apart.
Probably ...but what has that got to do with Mr Hitchens? this is not the forum to begin a discussion about 9/11. there are plenty of other videos on YT to do that.
You can write as you please. In fact, your freedom of speech is something i will fight for. however, i was merely pointing out that your comment is as out of place as Mr Hitchens would be if he showed up at a support rally for Ken Ham.
...actually, no. I've just looked at your channel and it's the epitome of blind foolishness. your hate for Hitch is obvious, and your willful ignorance knows no bounds. blocked.
Christopher Hitchens: The Smarmy King of Red Herrings (red herring 2 : a diversion intended to distract attention from the real issue)-- “Religion poisons everything”? What role has religion in the centralized, fractional-reserve banking of fiat money (money that represents debt, not capital; money that is created from nothing; money that accrues usurious interest)?
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
I admire Hitchens for his intelligence and alluring personality, but he, along with many of his colleagues, seem to miss the point of spirituality. This is evinced by his understanding of the afterlife. if it exists, the afterlife is not a realm that can be conceived by our limited bodies and minds. It is beyond anything we can imagine, and cannot be deemed undesirable based on a human interpretation. I love the guy. He's great. But his unyielding devotion to logical intelligence limits him.
@Mjumbojetpresdent The dualism of natural and supernatural is not a foreign topic to Hitchens. And while you may interpret the afterlife one way, and are probably in the philosophical company of a great many, his critique still holds against a great many as well.
@ghbacch Agreed. He is probably speaking rhetorically here and simply poking fun at the whole mess of a question. Don't know why I posted that. Just went off how I was feeling at the moment and the thoughts it produced.
@Mjumbojetpresdent And your unyielding devotion to "believing in things because they make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside" limits you, friend.
It's arguing semantics to quarrel over what one can expect in the "afterlife", as the premise is nonsense to begin with. There has been not a shred of evidence to suggest that the consciousness (or "soul", whatever that is) lives on after death, and we would do wise to act accordingly.
@davethehostage Bahaha! Listen to a couple of enticing demagogues, adopt a few of their phrases, like "make you feel warm and fuzzy," and set of on your quest to rid youtube of it's naive and unenlightened users. Bah! Well, of course your analysis of my position is certainly accurate. Forget all the great thinkers of history who struggled their entire lives with the question of infinity. We have the answer now, and it's all so clear! Anyone who arrives at a contrary conclusion is simply daft!
@Mjumbojetpresdent Well, someone's getting defensive very early in this conversation. I never said you were "daft". I was simply suggesting that the conclusion you've reached is, in essence, illogical. And as I'm sure you know, all of the "great thinkers of history" struggling with the concept of whether or not the cosmos is governed by unicorns wouldn't make the idea any more plausible.
"Do you know that your reactions are predicted in the Bible?In the end times there will be scoffers and mockers of God. They will profess themselves wise,only to remain fools and the fool says in their heart there is no God. Doesen't that sound like today?Do you REALLY think you are no more than just an educated monkey? Or are we wonderfully and fearfully created by a powerful sentient being? Could it be that by saying no to him,you are saying YES to satan?No Hell? Are you sure? May God Bless"
A lot of books say a lot of things, and some of those things can be construed as happening today.
If i'd written a book which is designed to keep people obedient, one that has so many contradictions, and is becoming less and less relevant by the day, I'd damn well put in there a section about how unbelievers and evildoers would come to mock the book and that for which it stands. it's a self-fulfilling prophesy, given some of the contradictory rubbish in it.
@roddy35wv The Bible predicted their would be scoffers and mockers because the weird dudes in robes writing from the more illiterate parts of the world made all of that sh@#! up and knew someday someone would check their BS! Now that we are in the information age, that BS is all too apparent.
It's a scary world as the allopathic medical dictatorship confounds gender with blood-intoxicating hormones and mutilates, through surgery, the genitalia of retardates in order to make barren, pseudo-women of homosexual men.
@ThePassiveFist "Allopathic medicine" is a pejorative word used by quacks as a catch-all word for modern medicine. That is the first giveaway what the comment is about. He then goes on to claim that homosexual men who go through gender reassignment surgery are lead by an "allopathic medical dictatorship" which does not realize that gender is static and those with atypical hormones are retarded.
Basically, he is an overly wordy nut-bag fundamentalist.
[Historical revisionist & women's magazine hack Christ' Hitchens NEVER, in his rhetoric, endorses the plainly-written strictures of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, shared powers, checks & balances. His politics are of the Thomas Woodrow Wilson model: expeditionary forces, base-building, occupation/colonization of the outlands, spying on Americans (to rat out the illusory 5th column, "loose lips sink ships") & expansion of the Anglo-American empire.]
In reference to the second part of the video:When an atheist gets hit by a bus and dies,Christians will say that God punished him and he will go to Hell.When a Christian gets hit and dies,they say that God needed him and he will go to Heaven.In the Christian's view,no matter how righteous the atheist is,he always goes to Hell.Religion is absurd!
@SciFiFanatic101 Well you're lumping a stereo type on a Christian. A true Christian would see a man like Hitchens die and be mournful that he could not accept Christ into his life. Also if that Christian who was hit by a bus was also a sinner that was not truely walking with Christ he would burn in hell the same as the Athiest. Good Deeds and being Righteous mean nothing unless you have truely accepted Christ into your life. The last thing would be God passes judgement on the Eternity not us.
While I accept your premise that a lot of stereotypes are lumped on Christians, and that most Christians are not the fundamentalist idiots that some Atheists make them out to be, your assertion that "Good Deeds and being Righteous mean nothing unless you have truely accepted Christ into your life" is a fallacy. Good deeds mean everything, and righteousness is subjective. Good deeds should be done regardless of reward in the afterlife - they should be done becase they are right.
I truly hope Christopher Hitchens beats his cancer and, lives. The world still needs him. I LOVE Christopher Hitchens. (in a totaly NON-GAY way LoLz) Without any doubt, one of my hero's. Im very glad to see he's doing better. I hope your health continues to improve. What a thrill it would be for me (and for him, im sure) to give the middle finger to all the trolls that wish his demise. Never quit... Never give up.... Im pullin' for you, Mr. Hitchens. ;)
Historical revisionist & women's magazine hack Christ' Hitchens NEVER, in his rhetoric, endorses the plainly-written strictures of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, shared powers, checks & balances. His politics are of the Thomas Woodrow Wilson model: expeditionary forces, base-building, spying on Americans (to rat out the 5th column) & expansion of the Anglo-American empire.
your implication that 'past lives' have anything to do with cancer means you're bound to come under fire from all sorts of people on this channel. stick to reality or piss off - and see if you can find one of these schools you mention who can give you a good explanation of cancer and carcinogens, because 'past lives' - seriously?
wow. such eloquence from the nappy little 21-year old. glad to see the US education system is still producing right up to the level of excellence I've come to expect.
LMFAO listen to you having no life, no intelligence and not one single worthwhile thing to say. go back to the gym you testosterone-shriveled-penis jarhead. the army needs more retards like you to go kill Arab children.
i like hitchens but i dont like the fact that he has gone to america and converting them to athiests with is intellectual power, people should make up there own minds and not be influenced by athiests or reiligion.
ah yes but don't you see that when a baby is born into a religious family, she/he has that religion inculcated into their mind from birth and they do not get the opportunity to make up their own mind. if religion (all religions) was a subject taught at school, and parents did not indoctrinate their kids from birth, then they would have the opportunity to choose.
@british123able I think you miss the point of Hitchens' role in opposing Religion. Saying that, I think there is a lot you've yet to understand in these debates.
@british123able : Hitchens is not "converting" anyone. He simply enjoys debating and pointing out the ridiculousness of religious beliefs. Being an atheist simply means you don't buy into superstitions and the supernatural - nothing more, nothing less.
no, that was God. and he died alone, crying into is beard, years ago when people stopped believing in ridiculous fairytales. go troll elsewhere, dipshit.
Twas just revealed to me that Hitch writes & edits for VANITY FAIR! My God a FASHION magazine, really Hitch? Man that's disappointing. I'm sure it pays well but what about all the royalties from your books? I'm embarrassed to admit, but that does ruin your cred. a bit. Get well soon (& get a new job : )
Just to clarify, Vanity Fair is not just a fashion magazine... it's also got a large political section in it... and I'm pretty sure Hitch writes for the political side of things, not to comment on what meat Lady Gaga has wrapped around boobs.
I'd suggest you jump online and read some of the articles that he has written in VF, they are excellent and a good example of why you should not judge a book by it's cover.
I doubt he needs it, but if Hitchens ever needs a round-the-clock watch over his deathbed to ensure that people don't try to fuck with him like that, I would be happy to contribute to the fund! :)
:) I understand your position. however, I'm not sure I'd use the word Delightful...I find that I disagree with him on some fairly significant political issues...
However - when it comes to religion: TOTALLY, 100% agree with him.
...and he's got an amazing way with words. if i could be as eloquent as him, I'd be out there speaking in much the same way he does. I wouldn't have anywhere near the audience, but hey... you do what you can!
Where on earth do you get the ridiculous notion that he's a communist homosexual? the other points i'll grant you, they're a matter of record, but gay? and communist? where do you get this shit from?
@Zed1967 He takes a bit of a simplistic view about religion and ancient knowledge. For example he says people used to think the world is flat. That may be true but people used to understand that the world is a sphere orbiting the sun. He seems to think astrology is nonsense but fails to see that people understood far more about how the stars affect life on earth than scientists do today. This could be willful ignorance, it's unlikely to be stupidity since he is clearly intelligent.
Your comment is total nonsense. People have known that the earth is round for at least 2000 years, the heliocentric model of the solar system was developed in the 16th century but at that time it was considered heresy to suggest anything other than the geocentric model as described in the Bible, in fact Galileo was put under house arrest for it.
Your comment about ''Astrology'' is comedy gold and requires several face palms that only Kali could administer.
@Zed1967 Read Uriel's Machine. People would have known about the position of the sun for 26,000 years or more. Astronomy is how the 'stars' move. Astrology is how this movement affects life on earth. Everyone is aware of the basics such as day and night, spring, summer, autumn and winter. Your arrogant assumption that you are smarter than me deserves several palms in the face with a 6lbs gold Kali.
If you really think that the positions of stars effects people on earth then I am indeed far smarter than you. Astrology is total made up nonsense for the gullible and credulous.
@Zed1967 Will you at least agree with me that the movement of the earth around the sun affects life on earth? Are you not willing to consider the idea of the whole solar system is held together by gravity and movement? A long range force which must be emanating from the sun and earth and most probably on other planets too? Some say the moons gravity actually affects the tides here on earth, a step too far perhaps?
@Zed1967 So you accept that at least one heavenly body affects life on earth. The planets are far more massive than the moon but are farther away. However their change in position relative to the earth is far greater. Their positions change like clockwork but a complex clock with many possible positions. Going further our angular position in the galaxy changes according to the 'age' we are in. The galaxy's gravity causes us to orbit that too. It's pulling on every one of us.
@Zed1967 By the way, that's stuff I have no proof, just stuff I have read. The earth could be at the centre of the solar system for all I really know. I don't see how you or I would know any different without a practical interest in astronomy. We take the word of whichever so called experts we like the most. Or if we are sheeple, just go on what the BBC says. Professor Brian Cox, what a D'Ream ER, I was hoping he would explain General Relativity but he don't know either.
I'm gob-smacked. I've never been to Australia and I've never seen a kangaroo in the flesh but by your reasoning it would fair of me to say that they might not exist in reality as I've never seen them first hand. The heliocentric model of the solar system has been known of for over 2000 years and was proved mathematically in the 16th century. It's not difficult to do it yourself, a child could understand it. I'm not arrogant enough to think I smarter than a science professor.
@Zed1967 Gob-smacked, excellent :-) You do see my point at least. Newton I think said he stands on the shoulders of giants to make progress in science. About 500 years ago there were a lot of smart people who quietly agreed that the planets went round the sun. As they gradually found they could express these ideas and not get executed the ideas spread. The dominant and accepted ideas are not always the correct ones. If you can see it with your own eyes that's better than taking someones word.
Wow. I don't agree with Hitchens' beliefs but I respect the man and appreciate his insight and logical arguments. There's not too many people out there who can debate as well as he can on either side of these type of religious debates.
So i just checked out Harley's channel - and he likes to post his own comments (the ones he thinks are obviously 'really good') onto his page, without giving any indication of why they're there. i've just posted on his channel but since he seems to like removing posts that he deems offensive to the church, I doubt it'll be there for long...
I'm a Christian and I'd just like to present a thought. I'm willing to listen to your thoughts and ideas about your religion (atheism being a religion or a belief system) therefore it shouldn't hurt to hear mine. If I'm wrong, I would have lived a wonderful life, stayed pure, never compromised myself and developed discipline that stretched out in all areas of my life...I'll die and every one will think well of me and that will be all....but what if you're wrong? Just a thought.
@MissCLela (part 1) What if you're wrong, BUT, the muslims were right all along? Or the pagans? Or the zoroastrians? How do you defend your beliefs against the claims of vehement non-christians objectively? Do you have indisputable "evidence" to verify your christian beliefs - other than personal revelation? Other religions have their "evidence" as well.
@spjohnso (part 2) And, please, let’s not pull out the clichéd epistemic chestnut, “Oh! Nothing can be proven with indisputable evidence to be true!”; because if you really did believe that then why even bother criticizing other positions? If you are willing enough to criticize, are you not acknowledging the existence of truth? So would you say that your chose of religion is not entirely a faith position but something objectively true?
@spjohnso I agree that there's got to be both a revelation as well as a bases for that revelation...I believe in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and He was seen risen by over 500 documented individuals....of course I'm not claiming to know everything in the world but in the little bit that I do know, I know that Jesus Christ is my personal Saviour...Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." John 14:6.....
(part 3) You must have an open mind about these things. You must transcend your own culture to get anything close to a true picture of reality and history and drop any preconceived notions. I can’t fathom how you can have so much faith in Christianity when – you must admit – that you’d probably be a muslim if you were from Iran; a hindu if you were in India; or an atheist if you were in modern day Denmark.
@spjohnso (part 2) we can dismiss this claim of Huck’s existence easily because of the facts we know about the writer Mark Twain and the fact that he wrote fictions intentionally; with the bible – or the Koran – it’s not as easy. Although there is substantial evidence to suggest all holy canon – regardless from what religion - are manmade and fictional. Read Bart Ehrman’s “Misqouting Jesus” for some history about the new testament.
@spjohnso (part 1) The problem here is that are you are just using scripture as a way to legitimize scripture. It's the same case as using the works of Mark Twain to say that Huck Finn actually existed. "But there's no objective evidence left behind that suggest that Huck Finn was a real person." says the skeptic. "No,no,no. The book clearly states that Huck Finn was real and that he went on many adventures with a runaway slave, and Tom Sawyer as well; that's my proof."
@spjohnso an aside note, Christian's be weary to avoid the devils trap in falling in the belief that there are multiple ways to heaven....Jesus' teachings are very clear therefore if you disagree you can't possibly be considered a Christian.....the dispute amongst the three major religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Muslim) is not in God the father, it's in who we believe the Saviour to be....the break began with Ishmael, Abraham's other son, and Isaac...it is here that the Bible prophesies
I think since being ill Hitch has had a new perspective on religion and lost even more respect for it (if that's possible). His comments on religion these days are even better than before. What a legend this guy is!
In reference to deathbed recantations. People genuinely ask the question in order to HELP not insult. He fails to accept that such people are attempting to alleviate suffering albeit often with misguided ideas.
@hdregmore I think his point is that if athiests did it they might be doing it for the same reasons as you mentioned, to help. But with even the best intentions it is insulting and i think he illustrated that quite clearly with the analogy.
@hdregmore You're making the assumption that god exists. That fact is it is just as insulting either way and neither should do it to someone on their deathbed. The person in question will make their own mind up and decide either way. The religious have got to except that it is very poor thinking and behaviour on their part challenging people's beliefs when they are near death.
@smudgemax You're making the assumptions that he does not. Why shouldn't it be considered by someone on their deathbed or any time?Of course the person will make up their own mind. It will be a much more informed decision.Atheists have got to accept that a person who is about to leave this life is entitled to information about the possibility of an afterlife.To demand that religious organizations who have been helping people at life's end for thousands of years should stop is selfish nonsense.
hdregmore Actually, I am not making the assumption that god doesn't exist, I think it's highly unlikely, but not impossible. I think it's a little condescending on athiests to think that they have little information on the possibility of an afterlife, i think the idea has been drummed into most people, religious or not, from a very young age. What you see as help, is only from your point of view. Trying to make someone change their principles of a lifetime when they are dying is wrong.
@smudgemax If a person has a life-held belief and stance on the issue then someone talking to them in a hospital bed should not interfere with that. If it does then they are obviously not strident in their position.You may say it is condescending, however to deny it is interfering with individuals rights to the information. Atheism can also be "ground" into a person from a very young age. What you see as freedom from a condescending religion is actually denying rights to information.
@hdregmore They already have that information! Who on the planet does not know about heaven and hell in the christian religion??!! You don't need someone pestering you on your deathbed when your weak, desperate and vulnerable, possibly confusing and upsetting you. Whatsmore i have never known a person who has had atheism 'ground' into them, it is a position taken with much thought and consideration of evidence and reason, after usually having believed in god as a child.
@hdregmore Whatever you assert, it must be right, eh? Even if there is no reason or evidence to support your answer. Think all that, if it makes you happy, I really don't have a problem, just don't come to me on my deathbed trying to convert me.
What you call "grinding" Atheism into kids is the antithesis of what you seem to believe that it is. I'm a staunch, hard-core Atheist, and the only thing i grind into my kids is the need for skepticism. if someone tells you something, they must prove that it is so. Faith is NOT a virtue, no matter what any book says. it is a belief without proof, and in my eyes, this is tantamount to willful ignorance. my kids have sat through classes where they are taught about god, and come home...
There was no match for Hitchens' intellect, I wish I could've said that to him while he was still alive.
Konicava 3 weeks ago
@roddy35wv I have a prophecy that in my next video, someone will dislike it. I also have a prophecy that there will be at least one comment, and that people will have mixed emotions about it in their brains......Does this mean I can see the future? No, somethings are just obvious. If I was going to write a book that I knew people were going to be skeptical about then I would mention that people will be skeptical about it. Its' called common sense not foreseeing the future Einstein.
theBartone9119 3 weeks ago
A disembodied consciousness at death shouldn't be desirable to anyone...Without a body you have no sexual organs, no taste buds, and no brain to produce chemical reactions. That means no sex, no tasting great food, and no being intoxicated...I'd much rather be unaware that I couldn't do those things anymore rather than be aware of what I'm missing for eternity.
theBartone9119 3 weeks ago
Logically, an afterlife really doesn't make sense. I mean, do animals get an afterlife as well? How about plants and microscopic organisms, like bacteria? Are they on the "other side" too? When we go to the afterlife, are we conscious and capable of rational thought? Can we sense others in the afterlife? If so, are our senses the same as when we were alive?
You've only got one life people. Enjoy it. Don't waste it waiting for something more.
deadshot1995 3 weeks ago
Oh Hitchens :')
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Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
Was sodomite Christ' Hitchens' hollow death an early Christmas gift, or retribution for the total-war that he endorsed against the mothers & children of the Arab sphere?
procommenter 1 month ago
@procommenter
You are the worst kind of troll. Hitch, like many others, experimented with his sexuality in his teenage years. so fucking what? your bullshit comments, and your wholly farcical name "procommenter" has just earned you a ban from this channel.
forgive me for being "unprofessional", but I think I can echo the thoughts of many viewers by saying this:
FUCK YOU. You pathetic, backward, knuckle-dragging, fairy-tale believing, closed-minded, religious vomitstain.
GTFO
ThePassiveFist 1 month ago
He was a great intellect and he was a man of reason and he was never afraid to speak his mind and he was never afraid to stand up for what he believed in, it's sad that hes gone but the good thing is is that his legacy will live on, RIP Hitch.
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MrJohnboy1984 1 month ago
Hitchens was a bit insensitive and tactless in my opinion which are not good qualities in a person but it is partly what made him popular.
scribb7 1 month ago
@scribb7
i agree - insensitive and tactless, but mostly to institutions of boundless insensitivity and tactlessness themselves, so every bit of vitriol was well deserved. though he was know to be quite short and sharp with the audience as well, but nobody's perfect...thankfully! thanks for watching.
ThePassiveFist 1 month ago 6
There's nothing brilliant about stating the obvious but putting down religious nutbags in an elegant manner with class and style now that's brilliant.
TheDano1947 2 months ago
@worldoslamicorder.....wow, I have been overcome by the brilliant statement you have made...PRAISE ALLAH!!!...anyways, since you have already gotten a hard-on from my statement, let me say this...how could you (with the capability if respirating and responding as you do) believe that a man like Christopher Hitchens noy know the truth underlying humanity..
lamecwedsi 2 months ago
@lamecwedsi The same way you do I suppose.
TheDano1947 2 months ago
Now he is in hell fire
WorldIslamicOrder 2 months ago
@WorldIslamicOrder
Oh no no - he's just dead. his flesh and bones rotting into the soil over the next few years, or his ashes in an urn somewhere.
Hell is only for the living, those of us who remain here and have to put up with the endless drivel of religious nutbags, brainwashed individuals who continually spout dogmatic, vomitous mouth-diarrhea, not to realising their beliefs are the biggest, most successful con job in history, costing them the joy of only life they have.
ThePassiveFist 2 months ago 11
@ThePassiveFist perfectly said.
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@ThePassiveFist
Religious beliefs only affect your life and the direction you want it to take because you let it in via your own bigoted views and intolerance. Your attestation to the non existence of an afterlife is a testament to tiresome atheistic twaddle.
Cypherus21 1 month ago
@ThePassiveFist Good, the way I would've done, or at least would tried to.
Konicava 3 weeks ago
@WorldIslamicOrder How the hell do you know, dd you go visit him?
TheDano1947 2 months ago
@WorldIslamicOrder lovely name very hostile . christopher hitchens took philosophy to a whole different level. he is a pure example of critical reading. while your religion even if it might be true has caused humanity to regress in many forms.even if islam is true you can see atheists live happier,healthier,less violent lifes while muslims are either agreesive,inferior,unhappy and if its the true religion then who is really right Sunnah ( 90%) or shia (15%) KTAB ALLAH W AHLU BAITI (bukhari)
Thejadjadjad 1 month ago
Who the hell would ask this guy to leave their party??? :(
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 2 months ago
im am afriad of the process of dieing as in experiencing a life threatening injury actually being dead would not bother me
stalkingcat123 2 months ago
@stalkingcat123
Totally. being dead holds no fear for me, because I would not be around to lament my lack of life... but yes, the process of dying slowly - that's something everyone can rightly be afraid of. That's why I support people right to choose the time, place and manner of their death if they want to. If you've not heard of him, I refer you to Terry Pratchett as a case in point...
ThePassiveFist 2 months ago
@ThePassiveFist most people are selfish and want you to suffer with them until death takes full effect, human beings are the worst people.
stalkingcat123 2 months ago
@stalkingcat123 I don't think being dead would bother anybody but the anticipation might,
TheDano1947 2 months ago
@ThePassiveFist Thank you for sharing these snippets.
thedeeliciousplum 2 months ago
This video alone would have vindicated his life.
faithisfiction 2 months ago
Now that Hitchens is dead he can join this discussion panel
watch?v=8ALInv_wzSQ
zaggy3110 2 months ago
If there was such thing as eternal life we would have always existed. Yet we know exactly when we were born and as far as we know we did not exist before that point. Eternal life can't begin in some afterlife when we pass away. Something infinite has no beginning or end therefore if life were eternal we would already be experiencing eternal life.
houseofglass21 2 months ago
Oh well.. he's an atheist so need to be sentimental. He IS NOT resting in peace. In fact there is no longer any Christopher Hitchens his personality is dead. "HE" is dead. So there is nothing resting. It is only a cold flesh sac corpse now.
Josephjoel3 2 months ago
@Josephjoel3 Sentiment and remembrance is the only thing that lasts as far as we know. It's amazing that we are even able to contemplate these things, I hope that humans will be able to drag themselves up someday to be equal to their mental abilities. Some, like Hitchens, attempt to pave the way.
apsarajet 2 months ago
@apsarajet I hate to be a downer but sentiment and remembrance does not last. There is no permanence at all anywhere. There is a quote that says that the only constant is change. Change is a fluctuation of patterns. So even this is not constant. In regards to Hitchens he was a powerful intellectual, but all his intellect was for naught. Humanity as a collective is still superstitious backward and inefficient, and this has been the case since history immemorial.
Josephjoel3 2 months ago
You live on in your children. you, as a person, may die and be forgotten but what you teach your kids, they will teach theirs and bit by bit this will change the world. "My three delightful children are my only chance of at a second life, or even an immortal one. And I'll tell you something; if I was told to sacrifice them to prove my devotion to God and admire the man who said, "Yes, I'll GUT MY KID to show my love of God." I'd say, No... FUCK YOU!" - Christopher Hitchens
ThePassiveFist 2 months ago
@Josephjoel3 They don't last but that's all we have. One has to be humble enough to accept that. A fear of death, beyond just survival instinct, came with our big brains and unfortunately leads people to hope for a hereafter. Agreed. But even athiests can be sentimental and humane when thinking about the dead. Hitchens might be plant food now but I can still enjoy his work.
apsarajet 2 months ago
@apsarajet Hope is the universal human blunder and foible. We all live and die in hope. Are you familiar with the greek myth of Pandora's box? The last thing to come out of it was hope. Some have interpreted this as a positive. That even in the midst of evil at least there is hope it will change or get better. I say that hope is the greatest evil to come out of that box. It keeps us clinging to the falsehood that in evil there is the capability of change. In evil there is ONLY evil.
Josephjoel3 2 months ago
RIP Christopher Hitchens. you were an inspiration to thousands, if not millions of rational minded secularists across the globe, and your tireless fight against ignorance and bigotry will mean your legacy will live on. Your suffering is over, but the world is a poorer place without you.
Respect.
Hitchslap God for me. (irony alert)
ThePassiveFist 2 months ago 30
@ThePassiveFist "RIP Christopher Hitchens."
I realize it's simiply a convention, but do you understand that "RIP" (i.e. "rest in peace") is literally meaningless--at least to someone of CH's persuasion?
Whenever I see/hear RIP I feel like I'm in the middle of a Monty Python sketch: " 'E's not dead, 'e's restin'! "
Well, Christopher Hitchens is not restin'--except, perhaps, in the physics sense--'e's stone dead.
lease2coach1 2 months ago
@lease2coach1
Certainly i understand that - but much like I'll say "bless you" when someone sneezes, or say "GOD DAMN IT!" when things don't go my way, they are, as you, say merely a convention.
The sentiment, when i say Rest in Peace, is more one of respect, and a feeling of relief that he is no longer in pain, than any indication that i think he is merely resting.
But you make a good point.
ThePassiveFist 2 months ago
RIP. You have to leave the party :-(
Pobotrol 2 months ago
Rest in peace
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On Tuesday 11 Sep. '01, W.T.C. 7 (altho it was hit by no plane) collapsed, @ free-fall speed, 20 mins. AFTER the B.B.C. announced its demise. Some conspiracy theorists claim that 19 Arabs, who appear on no passenger-lists, crashed jumbo jets into 3 landmark buildings at 580 M.P.H. Of course that speed exceeds design & structural tolerances for air buses at elevations below 1,000 feet as the drag rips them apart.
CelestialEmbodiment 4 months ago
@CelestialEmbodiment
Probably ...but what has that got to do with Mr Hitchens? this is not the forum to begin a discussion about 9/11. there are plenty of other videos on YT to do that.
ThePassiveFist 4 months ago
@ThePassiveFist : Until you pay my Internet connection fee, I'll write as I please.
CelestialEmbodiment 4 months ago
@CelestialEmbodiment
You can write as you please. In fact, your freedom of speech is something i will fight for. however, i was merely pointing out that your comment is as out of place as Mr Hitchens would be if he showed up at a support rally for Ken Ham.
Carry on...
ThePassiveFist 4 months ago
@ThePassiveFist : Why should I give a harlot's hello concerning anything that you write?
CelestialEmbodiment 4 months ago
@CelestialEmbodiment
Why are you still spamming my channel? you seem to be spoiling for a fight, one which i have no interest in.
to turn the question around, why should i care about anything you write, on my video no less?
I have an idea... you fuck off, and i won't delete all your comments and ban you from my channel for being a douchebag - DEAL?
ThePassiveFist 4 months ago
@CelestialEmbodiment
...actually, no. I've just looked at your channel and it's the epitome of blind foolishness. your hate for Hitch is obvious, and your willful ignorance knows no bounds. blocked.
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CelestialEmbodiment 4 months ago
Who says in the earthly, natural sense we have to die? Look up cryonics; it implies a curious proposition :D
GiveCourage 4 months ago
Go Hitch!
Heathensrule 5 months ago
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The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
I admire Hitchens for his intelligence and alluring personality, but he, along with many of his colleagues, seem to miss the point of spirituality. This is evinced by his understanding of the afterlife. if it exists, the afterlife is not a realm that can be conceived by our limited bodies and minds. It is beyond anything we can imagine, and cannot be deemed undesirable based on a human interpretation. I love the guy. He's great. But his unyielding devotion to logical intelligence limits him.
Mjumbojetpresdent 5 months ago
@Mjumbojetpresdent The dualism of natural and supernatural is not a foreign topic to Hitchens. And while you may interpret the afterlife one way, and are probably in the philosophical company of a great many, his critique still holds against a great many as well.
ghbacch 5 months ago
@ghbacch Agreed. He is probably speaking rhetorically here and simply poking fun at the whole mess of a question. Don't know why I posted that. Just went off how I was feeling at the moment and the thoughts it produced.
Mjumbojetpresdent 5 months ago
@Mjumbojetpresdent And your unyielding devotion to "believing in things because they make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside" limits you, friend.
It's arguing semantics to quarrel over what one can expect in the "afterlife", as the premise is nonsense to begin with. There has been not a shred of evidence to suggest that the consciousness (or "soul", whatever that is) lives on after death, and we would do wise to act accordingly.
davethehostage 5 months ago
@davethehostage Bahaha! Listen to a couple of enticing demagogues, adopt a few of their phrases, like "make you feel warm and fuzzy," and set of on your quest to rid youtube of it's naive and unenlightened users. Bah! Well, of course your analysis of my position is certainly accurate. Forget all the great thinkers of history who struggled their entire lives with the question of infinity. We have the answer now, and it's all so clear! Anyone who arrives at a contrary conclusion is simply daft!
Mjumbojetpresdent 5 months ago
@Mjumbojetpresdent Well, someone's getting defensive very early in this conversation. I never said you were "daft". I was simply suggesting that the conclusion you've reached is, in essence, illogical. And as I'm sure you know, all of the "great thinkers of history" struggling with the concept of whether or not the cosmos is governed by unicorns wouldn't make the idea any more plausible.
davethehostage 5 months ago
"Do you know that your reactions are predicted in the Bible?In the end times there will be scoffers and mockers of God. They will profess themselves wise,only to remain fools and the fool says in their heart there is no God. Doesen't that sound like today?Do you REALLY think you are no more than just an educated monkey? Or are we wonderfully and fearfully created by a powerful sentient being? Could it be that by saying no to him,you are saying YES to satan?No Hell? Are you sure? May God Bless"
roddy35wv 6 months ago
@roddy35wv
A lot of books say a lot of things, and some of those things can be construed as happening today.
If i'd written a book which is designed to keep people obedient, one that has so many contradictions, and is becoming less and less relevant by the day, I'd damn well put in there a section about how unbelievers and evildoers would come to mock the book and that for which it stands. it's a self-fulfilling prophesy, given some of the contradictory rubbish in it.
ThePassiveFist 6 months ago 20
@roddy35wv
It might do you a little good to think outside the bible sometime.
Anon11674 5 months ago
@roddy35wv The Bible predicted their would be scoffers and mockers because the weird dudes in robes writing from the more illiterate parts of the world made all of that sh@#! up and knew someday someone would check their BS! Now that we are in the information age, that BS is all too apparent.
Auslandic 5 months ago
@roddy35wv How about Christian believers who make a mockery of God when they claim to know God's will?
Euchrid1973 4 months ago
Hitchens is the pimp daddy of brains.
navyboydjray 7 months ago 8
@navyboydjray
LOL. Testify, brother.
ThePassiveFist 7 months ago
“Life made him famous. Death made him immortal.” – Fox News concerning Elvis, 2004
procommenter 7 months ago
It's a scary world as the allopathic medical dictatorship confounds gender with blood-intoxicating hormones and mutilates, through surgery, the genitalia of retardates in order to make barren, pseudo-women of homosexual men.
procommenter 7 months ago
@procommenter
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Dude: What are you smoking?
ThePassiveFist 7 months ago 2
@ThePassiveFist "Allopathic medicine" is a pejorative word used by quacks as a catch-all word for modern medicine. That is the first giveaway what the comment is about. He then goes on to claim that homosexual men who go through gender reassignment surgery are lead by an "allopathic medical dictatorship" which does not realize that gender is static and those with atypical hormones are retarded.
Basically, he is an overly wordy nut-bag fundamentalist.
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[Historical revisionist & women's magazine hack Christ' Hitchens NEVER, in his rhetoric, endorses the plainly-written strictures of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, shared powers, checks & balances. His politics are of the Thomas Woodrow Wilson model: expeditionary forces, base-building, occupation/colonization of the outlands, spying on Americans (to rat out the illusory 5th column, "loose lips sink ships") & expansion of the Anglo-American empire.]
procommenter 7 months ago
In reference to the second part of the video:When an atheist gets hit by a bus and dies,Christians will say that God punished him and he will go to Hell.When a Christian gets hit and dies,they say that God needed him and he will go to Heaven.In the Christian's view,no matter how righteous the atheist is,he always goes to Hell.Religion is absurd!
SciFiFanatic101 7 months ago
@SciFiFanatic101 Well you're lumping a stereo type on a Christian. A true Christian would see a man like Hitchens die and be mournful that he could not accept Christ into his life. Also if that Christian who was hit by a bus was also a sinner that was not truely walking with Christ he would burn in hell the same as the Athiest. Good Deeds and being Righteous mean nothing unless you have truely accepted Christ into your life. The last thing would be God passes judgement on the Eternity not us.
MrRaiym 7 months ago
@MrRaiym
While I accept your premise that a lot of stereotypes are lumped on Christians, and that most Christians are not the fundamentalist idiots that some Atheists make them out to be, your assertion that "Good Deeds and being Righteous mean nothing unless you have truely accepted Christ into your life" is a fallacy. Good deeds mean everything, and righteousness is subjective. Good deeds should be done regardless of reward in the afterlife - they should be done becase they are right.
ThePassiveFist 7 months ago
I truly hope science can help him beat Cancer. The world would be a much poorer place without Hitchens.
fuzzface100 7 months ago
@fuzzface100 : It's too late for your romantic dreams as Christ' Hitchens is married to a woman.
procommenter 7 months ago
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fuzzface100 7 months ago
I truly hope Christopher Hitchens beats his cancer and, lives. The world still needs him. I LOVE Christopher Hitchens. (in a totaly NON-GAY way LoLz) Without any doubt, one of my hero's. Im very glad to see he's doing better. I hope your health continues to improve. What a thrill it would be for me (and for him, im sure) to give the middle finger to all the trolls that wish his demise. Never quit... Never give up.... Im pullin' for you, Mr. Hitchens. ;)
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SufferInJuly 8 months ago
I wonder why hitchens has cancer? maybe because he hasn't learned anything in his past life.
Smooothify 8 months ago
@Smooothify i think its because he is a smoker. How come God makes priests rape children?
PDodds77 8 months ago 3
@PDodds77 You obviously did not understand my comment. Thats ok, there is schools all over the world.
Smooothify 8 months ago
@Smooothify
your implication that 'past lives' have anything to do with cancer means you're bound to come under fire from all sorts of people on this channel. stick to reality or piss off - and see if you can find one of these schools you mention who can give you a good explanation of cancer and carcinogens, because 'past lives' - seriously?
ThePassiveFist 8 months ago 2
@ThePassiveFist blow me kid
Smooothify 8 months ago
@Smooothify
wow. such eloquence from the nappy little 21-year old. glad to see the US education system is still producing right up to the level of excellence I've come to expect.
ThePassiveFist 8 months ago 4
@ThePassiveFist LMFAO listen to urself arguing on the internet. That just show how ignorant and stupid u r
Smooothify 8 months ago
@Smooothify
LMFAO listen to you having no life, no intelligence and not one single worthwhile thing to say. go back to the gym you testosterone-shriveled-penis jarhead. the army needs more retards like you to go kill Arab children.
ThePassiveFist 8 months ago 2
Mr. Hitchens succintly spells out the truth, very refreshing to hear.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 8 months ago
i like hitchens but i dont like the fact that he has gone to america and converting them to athiests with is intellectual power, people should make up there own minds and not be influenced by athiests or reiligion.
british123able 8 months ago
@british123able
ah yes but don't you see that when a baby is born into a religious family, she/he has that religion inculcated into their mind from birth and they do not get the opportunity to make up their own mind. if religion (all religions) was a subject taught at school, and parents did not indoctrinate their kids from birth, then they would have the opportunity to choose.
ThePassiveFist 8 months ago 5
@british123able I think you miss the point of Hitchens' role in opposing Religion. Saying that, I think there is a lot you've yet to understand in these debates.
KaratekaKid 8 months ago
@british123able : Hitchens is not "converting" anyone. He simply enjoys debating and pointing out the ridiculousness of religious beliefs. Being an atheist simply means you don't buy into superstitions and the supernatural - nothing more, nothing less.
bersa888 8 months ago 2
@bersa888 yes whilst ridiculing God in the process..
SovereignBeing 8 months ago
Take no prisoners, Christopher :-))
bersa888 9 months ago 2
@ezekialwheel That was literally one of the worst troll attempts in YouTubes history. The worst troll of all time being the Bible of course.
benmols 9 months ago
@ezekialwheel
no, that was God. and he died alone, crying into is beard, years ago when people stopped believing in ridiculous fairytales. go troll elsewhere, dipshit.
ThePassiveFist 9 months ago 47
@ezekialwheel
you wish
MCAMVP 9 months ago
well...
Fuck that!
redshark618 10 months ago
I was there!! Yesss... :3
Xiquid 10 months ago
Twas just revealed to me that Hitch writes & edits for VANITY FAIR! My God a FASHION magazine, really Hitch? Man that's disappointing. I'm sure it pays well but what about all the royalties from your books? I'm embarrassed to admit, but that does ruin your cred. a bit. Get well soon (& get a new job : )
timjdong 10 months ago 2
@timjdong
Hi Tim
Just to clarify, Vanity Fair is not just a fashion magazine... it's also got a large political section in it... and I'm pretty sure Hitch writes for the political side of things, not to comment on what meat Lady Gaga has wrapped around boobs.
I'd suggest you jump online and read some of the articles that he has written in VF, they are excellent and a good example of why you should not judge a book by it's cover.
ThePassiveFist 10 months ago
Is there any chance of anyone here who know English have written to me what he said. I don't understand everything.
TheFilm2001forall 10 months ago
Part of me says, "Clone Hitchens", and the other part says, "No, he should remain one-of-a-kind".
I hope he beats that damn Cancer, the world needs him.
grizzzlyjoe 10 months ago
On you hitch
meleder 10 months ago
I can hardly watch this without tearing up.
I'm so unhappy about his being sick that I can hardly stand to watch him any more...but I do.
AGNOSSI 10 months ago
Fuck that is what I say!
thinlizzybone 10 months ago
Happy Birthday, Christopher.
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850Nexus 10 months ago
I don't want to lose Hitchens!
szmako 10 months ago 3
I would give anything to drink whiskey and converse with this man
rcameronswindsor 10 months ago 2
I doubt he needs it, but if Hitchens ever needs a round-the-clock watch over his deathbed to ensure that people don't try to fuck with him like that, I would be happy to contribute to the fund! :)
johnclavis 11 months ago
can you put up the clip when hitchens says "god wouldn't bugger around with job to prove a point." thank you!!!!!!
nonstprnnr 11 months ago
@nonstprnnr i'll try and find it for you if i get some time. thanks for watching.
ThePassiveFist 11 months ago
Mr. Hitchens is absolutley the most delightful person ever.
jontheundertaker 11 months ago 43
@jontheundertaker
:) I understand your position. however, I'm not sure I'd use the word Delightful...I find that I disagree with him on some fairly significant political issues...
However - when it comes to religion: TOTALLY, 100% agree with him.
...and he's got an amazing way with words. if i could be as eloquent as him, I'd be out there speaking in much the same way he does. I wouldn't have anywhere near the audience, but hey... you do what you can!
ThePassiveFist 11 months ago
@jontheundertaker well if you agree with him!! Otherwise get the wife and kids out of town because u will get demolished!!!
robertchflynn 11 months ago
@jontheundertaker he looks like a serpent to me.
TheAmazingamerica 9 months ago
@jontheundertaker I prefer EPIC! But I totally agree with you my friend.
244Ohiro 7 months ago
@jontheundertaker sure he is. If you like self-absorbed, communist, naysaying, alcoholic homosexuals.
AegeanKing 7 months ago
@AegeanKing
Where on earth do you get the ridiculous notion that he's a communist homosexual? the other points i'll grant you, they're a matter of record, but gay? and communist? where do you get this shit from?
ThePassiveFist 7 months ago
Mr. Christopher Hitchens
robertogj 11 months ago
I need a REALLY LIKE button.
XaosTube 11 months ago
The way I see religion is that it's philosophy for stupid people.
Zed1967 11 months ago
@Zed1967 He takes a bit of a simplistic view about religion and ancient knowledge. For example he says people used to think the world is flat. That may be true but people used to understand that the world is a sphere orbiting the sun. He seems to think astrology is nonsense but fails to see that people understood far more about how the stars affect life on earth than scientists do today. This could be willful ignorance, it's unlikely to be stupidity since he is clearly intelligent.
RavenPrecept 10 months ago
@RavenPrecept
Your comment is total nonsense. People have known that the earth is round for at least 2000 years, the heliocentric model of the solar system was developed in the 16th century but at that time it was considered heresy to suggest anything other than the geocentric model as described in the Bible, in fact Galileo was put under house arrest for it.
Your comment about ''Astrology'' is comedy gold and requires several face palms that only Kali could administer.
Zed1967 10 months ago
@Zed1967 Read Uriel's Machine. People would have known about the position of the sun for 26,000 years or more. Astronomy is how the 'stars' move. Astrology is how this movement affects life on earth. Everyone is aware of the basics such as day and night, spring, summer, autumn and winter. Your arrogant assumption that you are smarter than me deserves several palms in the face with a 6lbs gold Kali.
RavenPrecept 10 months ago
@RavenPrecept
If you really think that the positions of stars effects people on earth then I am indeed far smarter than you. Astrology is total made up nonsense for the gullible and credulous.
Zed1967 10 months ago
@Zed1967 Will you at least agree with me that the movement of the earth around the sun affects life on earth? Are you not willing to consider the idea of the whole solar system is held together by gravity and movement? A long range force which must be emanating from the sun and earth and most probably on other planets too? Some say the moons gravity actually affects the tides here on earth, a step too far perhaps?
RavenPrecept 10 months ago
@RavenPrecept
I'm well aware of the science behind gravity, Newtons laws of motion and how the moon causes tides but astrology is nonsense.
Zed1967 10 months ago
@Zed1967 So you accept that at least one heavenly body affects life on earth. The planets are far more massive than the moon but are farther away. However their change in position relative to the earth is far greater. Their positions change like clockwork but a complex clock with many possible positions. Going further our angular position in the galaxy changes according to the 'age' we are in. The galaxy's gravity causes us to orbit that too. It's pulling on every one of us.
RavenPrecept 10 months ago
@Zed1967 By the way, that's stuff I have no proof, just stuff I have read. The earth could be at the centre of the solar system for all I really know. I don't see how you or I would know any different without a practical interest in astronomy. We take the word of whichever so called experts we like the most. Or if we are sheeple, just go on what the BBC says. Professor Brian Cox, what a D'Ream ER, I was hoping he would explain General Relativity but he don't know either.
RavenPrecept 10 months ago
@RavenPrecept
I'm gob-smacked. I've never been to Australia and I've never seen a kangaroo in the flesh but by your reasoning it would fair of me to say that they might not exist in reality as I've never seen them first hand. The heliocentric model of the solar system has been known of for over 2000 years and was proved mathematically in the 16th century. It's not difficult to do it yourself, a child could understand it. I'm not arrogant enough to think I smarter than a science professor.
Zed1967 10 months ago
@Zed1967 Gob-smacked, excellent :-) You do see my point at least. Newton I think said he stands on the shoulders of giants to make progress in science. About 500 years ago there were a lot of smart people who quietly agreed that the planets went round the sun. As they gradually found they could express these ideas and not get executed the ideas spread. The dominant and accepted ideas are not always the correct ones. If you can see it with your own eyes that's better than taking someones word.
RavenPrecept 10 months ago
He looks very healthy. Hitchens is my hero
DonRSX 11 months ago
hey his hair is coming back!! Maybe well have him for awhile yet!!!!!
willforrhall 11 months ago 9
@willforrhall
We can hope. we can certainly hope.
ThePassiveFist 11 months ago 11
@willforrhall Unfortunately, that's only because he has switched to alternative treatment because the Chemo nearly killed him in January :-(
mrface19 11 months ago
@willforrhall Ufortunately, all that signifies is that he's between chemo treatments.
comanchio1976 10 months ago
Wow. I don't agree with Hitchens' beliefs but I respect the man and appreciate his insight and logical arguments. There's not too many people out there who can debate as well as he can on either side of these type of religious debates.
AstonMartinbyage25 11 months ago 3
So i just checked out Harley's channel - and he likes to post his own comments (the ones he thinks are obviously 'really good') onto his page, without giving any indication of why they're there. i've just posted on his channel but since he seems to like removing posts that he deems offensive to the church, I doubt it'll be there for long...
my entire existence is offensive to the church.
ThePassiveFist 11 months ago
does anyone know how to send christopher mail? i have drawn a portrait of him and i need to get it to him before its too late.
elstroshitnonstop 11 months ago
I'm a Christian and I'd just like to present a thought. I'm willing to listen to your thoughts and ideas about your religion (atheism being a religion or a belief system) therefore it shouldn't hurt to hear mine. If I'm wrong, I would have lived a wonderful life, stayed pure, never compromised myself and developed discipline that stretched out in all areas of my life...I'll die and every one will think well of me and that will be all....but what if you're wrong? Just a thought.
MissCLela 11 months ago
@MissCLela (part 1) What if you're wrong, BUT, the muslims were right all along? Or the pagans? Or the zoroastrians? How do you defend your beliefs against the claims of vehement non-christians objectively? Do you have indisputable "evidence" to verify your christian beliefs - other than personal revelation? Other religions have their "evidence" as well.
spjohnso 11 months ago
@spjohnso (part 2) And, please, let’s not pull out the clichéd epistemic chestnut, “Oh! Nothing can be proven with indisputable evidence to be true!”; because if you really did believe that then why even bother criticizing other positions? If you are willing enough to criticize, are you not acknowledging the existence of truth? So would you say that your chose of religion is not entirely a faith position but something objectively true?
spjohnso 11 months ago
@spjohnso I agree that there's got to be both a revelation as well as a bases for that revelation...I believe in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and He was seen risen by over 500 documented individuals....of course I'm not claiming to know everything in the world but in the little bit that I do know, I know that Jesus Christ is my personal Saviour...Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." John 14:6.....
MissCLela 11 months ago
(part 3) You must have an open mind about these things. You must transcend your own culture to get anything close to a true picture of reality and history and drop any preconceived notions. I can’t fathom how you can have so much faith in Christianity when – you must admit – that you’d probably be a muslim if you were from Iran; a hindu if you were in India; or an atheist if you were in modern day Denmark.
spjohnso 11 months ago
@spjohnso (part 2) we can dismiss this claim of Huck’s existence easily because of the facts we know about the writer Mark Twain and the fact that he wrote fictions intentionally; with the bible – or the Koran – it’s not as easy. Although there is substantial evidence to suggest all holy canon – regardless from what religion - are manmade and fictional. Read Bart Ehrman’s “Misqouting Jesus” for some history about the new testament.
spjohnso 11 months ago
@spjohnso (part 1) The problem here is that are you are just using scripture as a way to legitimize scripture. It's the same case as using the works of Mark Twain to say that Huck Finn actually existed. "But there's no objective evidence left behind that suggest that Huck Finn was a real person." says the skeptic. "No,no,no. The book clearly states that Huck Finn was real and that he went on many adventures with a runaway slave, and Tom Sawyer as well; that's my proof."
spjohnso 11 months ago
@spjohnso an aside note, Christian's be weary to avoid the devils trap in falling in the belief that there are multiple ways to heaven....Jesus' teachings are very clear therefore if you disagree you can't possibly be considered a Christian.....the dispute amongst the three major religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Muslim) is not in God the father, it's in who we believe the Saviour to be....the break began with Ishmael, Abraham's other son, and Isaac...it is here that the Bible prophesies
MissCLela 11 months ago
@spjohnso about the feud between Christians and Muslims....Genesis 16:11-12 if you're interested
MissCLela 11 months ago
I think since being ill Hitch has had a new perspective on religion and lost even more respect for it (if that's possible). His comments on religion these days are even better than before. What a legend this guy is!
smudgemax 11 months ago
In reference to deathbed recantations. People genuinely ask the question in order to HELP not insult. He fails to accept that such people are attempting to alleviate suffering albeit often with misguided ideas.
hdregmore 11 months ago
@hdregmore I think his point is that if athiests did it they might be doing it for the same reasons as you mentioned, to help. But with even the best intentions it is insulting and i think he illustrated that quite clearly with the analogy.
smudgemax 11 months ago
@smudgemax It was not an analogy, it was a metaphor. It was missing the main ingredient to be a fair comparison. God.
hdregmore 11 months ago
@hdregmore You're making the assumption that god exists. That fact is it is just as insulting either way and neither should do it to someone on their deathbed. The person in question will make their own mind up and decide either way. The religious have got to except that it is very poor thinking and behaviour on their part challenging people's beliefs when they are near death.
smudgemax 11 months ago
@smudgemax You're making the assumptions that he does not. Why shouldn't it be considered by someone on their deathbed or any time?Of course the person will make up their own mind. It will be a much more informed decision.Atheists have got to accept that a person who is about to leave this life is entitled to information about the possibility of an afterlife.To demand that religious organizations who have been helping people at life's end for thousands of years should stop is selfish nonsense.
hdregmore 11 months ago
hdregmore Actually, I am not making the assumption that god doesn't exist, I think it's highly unlikely, but not impossible. I think it's a little condescending on athiests to think that they have little information on the possibility of an afterlife, i think the idea has been drummed into most people, religious or not, from a very young age. What you see as help, is only from your point of view. Trying to make someone change their principles of a lifetime when they are dying is wrong.
smudgemax 11 months ago
@smudgemax If a person has a life-held belief and stance on the issue then someone talking to them in a hospital bed should not interfere with that. If it does then they are obviously not strident in their position.You may say it is condescending, however to deny it is interfering with individuals rights to the information. Atheism can also be "ground" into a person from a very young age. What you see as freedom from a condescending religion is actually denying rights to information.
hdregmore 11 months ago
@hdregmore They already have that information! Who on the planet does not know about heaven and hell in the christian religion??!! You don't need someone pestering you on your deathbed when your weak, desperate and vulnerable, possibly confusing and upsetting you. Whatsmore i have never known a person who has had atheism 'ground' into them, it is a position taken with much thought and consideration of evidence and reason, after usually having believed in god as a child.
smudgemax 11 months ago
@smudgemax "You don't need someone pestering you on your deathbed when your weak, desperate and vulnerable, possibly confusing and upsetting you. "
That is why atheists should be kept away. Atheism is a position taken from denial, nihilism and ego. Nothing more.
hdregmore 11 months ago
@hdregmore Whatever you assert, it must be right, eh? Even if there is no reason or evidence to support your answer. Think all that, if it makes you happy, I really don't have a problem, just don't come to me on my deathbed trying to convert me.
smudgemax 11 months ago
@hdregmore
What you call "grinding" Atheism into kids is the antithesis of what you seem to believe that it is. I'm a staunch, hard-core Atheist, and the only thing i grind into my kids is the need for skepticism. if someone tells you something, they must prove that it is so. Faith is NOT a virtue, no matter what any book says. it is a belief without proof, and in my eyes, this is tantamount to willful ignorance. my kids have sat through classes where they are taught about god, and come home...
ThePassiveFist 11 months ago