@MusicByAngels though i can't see the happiness, i agree with the darker sounding melodies. i searched for the song i had in mind when hearing this guitar solo part ... without success. but when i find the song, i'll post again, so we can compare :)
(i'm coming from germany, so i apologize for my poor english :D )
@MrTconga I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just stating my opinion and attempting to back it up, is all. It "sounds" more indie than anything else, but jazz isn't technically about sound. Just look at ragtime or Django Reinhardt-esque gypsy jazz. To each his own, though. Sorry if I came across as a troll. :/
@Samus5164 OK, both of you. The "jazz" thing started at the very beginning, their first EP. It was so fresh & new that people didn't know where to place their style, so a form of jazz was one of the words. They never called themselves jazz, but magazine critics saw a slight jazz influence in songs like Needle & Thread, Hard to Believe, etc. They themselves never called their stuff jazz but if anything call it "lay-jazz." Not pure jazz, but jazz for the layman on a step towards jazz.
@MrTconga this band incorporates forced rhythms, improvisations, and syncopation. I wouldn't say that Justin Bieber is a form of music, but by definition, he is. It might not be future-prog-art-jazz-rock-fusion or some other specific bullshit subgenre, but it's definitely some form of jazz, or at least is something derived from it.
@MrTconga Jazz is defined as "a type of music of black American origin characterized by improvisation, syncopation, and usually a regular or forceful rhythm, emerging at the beginning of the 20th century". Good job, genius.
@kugmo04 I think it's technically jazz. At least that's what a musician friend with experience in similar music says. Unlike any other jazz I've heard though.
@Bcuzieatiron That's the idea. The disorganized intro provides something to contrast the more organized chorus against, making the choruses and especially the bridge stand out even more than they would alone when compared to the noise in the introduction.
~Oppress the audience (intro)
~Play something nice to artificially alleviate anxiety that you put there yourself (verse)
~Drop their attention by completely changing the pacing (bridge)
~Rinse and repeat. Basic songwriting for live shows.
This is such a smooth yet chaotic song! Though I do miss the dual guitars they had on RC&M. I hope Michael Carol does more in the next album, they seemed to have put him too background in this.
Guys, they are just giving themselves out. It's good that this vocalist is trying hard, he's giving all he can do and this is beautiful. The rythm is great, n voice waves i like too, rly good job!
@vgmshadix I'm only "hating on" this band because it just sounds like they "try to hard" and just basically because their music is just too thin. And what is "RAGH metal"?
@jvmc08 "RAGH" metal is basically what you just describe. Music sounding too "thick", or whatever the hell that means. This is from a genre called "jazz", kiddo. Listen to it, understand it, and you'll have the key to success.
Besides, relax a little, boy. Not everything in music has to be about pentagrams or satan killing goats or unescapable darkness or shit nobody cares about. Sit down, have a good listen, find your tastes. Metalheads can't be that stupidly narrow-minded, they just can't
@xzander I play in a Jazz combo so I should know that this is not Jazz, its just contemporary bull shit. I said it sounded thin, like a symphony without any viols and if it did have all the viols it would sound "Full/complete'. And where did you get this concept about heavy Metal being only anti religious, I told you to listen to
Opeth- To Bid You Farewell I never said anothing about metal either
@jvmc08 and you, stop being so high and mighty, just because you think it sounds "thin" doesn't mean it's incomplete and you can hardly call contemporary music bullshit with this band being one of the most listened to bands on youtube.
if you are a jazz player you would know that jazz isn't good, nobody likes it, it died 30 years ago as music to like and was replaced by hip-hop and is now just the melting pot from which good things develop
@Saugori Jazz is a great genre, sure it does have some really bad songs but it still has tons of great songs too, just like any other genre. Hip-Hop is probably the worst genre in existance, it has minimal music theory and its filled with so called "artist" (not musicians) that just steal music from others(well most of them, not all).
@jvmc08 if you say jazz is great and hip hop isn't your an idiot and you don't know what hip hop is.
what is jazz? improvisation over a form
what is hip hop? improvisation either lyrically over a sample or lyrically and musically over a form
hip hop is in fact just a slight extension of jazz and if you listen to is it tends to be very similar in its 2,5,1 chord progressions just with highly complex rhythmical vocal lines
@Saugori you can't compare Jazz with hip-hop, hip-hop was created because of the lack of musical skill. Instead of using music theory they used something that they were more familiar with, words(with the exception of bad grammer).
@jvmc08 okay then lets see how long it takes you to use 2 turntables like grand master flash could im afraid it is musical skill, just differently evolved, a world class DJ is on a similar proficiency and musical knowledge level as a world class drummer and a hip hop band (real three, four or five piece) like the roots or the gym class heroes early albums they are just jazz bands with MCs fronting them
also, dont insult a whole lifestyle you know nothing of you ignorant bellendrical arse
@Saugori Its maybe because you grew up with hip-hop and never focused on any other genre to recognize what true musical talent really is. A lot of people say they love music and when I take a look at their mp3/Ipod all I see is a bunch of American artist(not musicians), listen to music from around the world and in different languages. A repetitive hip-hop song cannot compare with a classical masterpiece, not even with a Symphonic Metal piece...
@jvmc08 im currently a music student concentrating my efforts on musical history so its fresh in my mind im afraid and im also starting to think that you really don't know what im talking about take this example
Miguel Piniero- a spoken word artist/poet who in the 60s/70s pushed the difficulties of living in the shit bits of new york to the fore with spoken work to jazz backings, hip hop is a direct evolution and current form of jazz also im not at all talking about rap
@Saugori and yet you still keep talking about hip-hop and Jazz... hip-hop is its own genre and rap is a sub genre of hip-hop...its the same with Rock n Roll is its own genre not blues, even though it developed from blues. Same with Jazz, it developed from Classical and folk music, but still has its own genre in music. You just think that hip-hop is the greatest genre, even though its far from it... and I too am a "music student" going into the world of audio production and a musician as well
@Saugori lyrics are the least important element of music. Music was created as a new language, a new form of expression because words aren't always enough. It doesn't mean you can't add poetry to music, just don't make music revolve around the lyrics because at the end all you have is shitty pop music
@Saugori exactly you take the lyrics off any pop song and they all sound THE SAME or incomplete... most pop music revolves around the lyrics and in the end you just water down the music, you simplify it just so the lyrics can stand out. Don't take my word for it, don't argue with, just listen to music for yourself and not just one genre listen to music from all corners of the world. And music was created nearly simultaneously by many cultures, and yes music acts as a Science and as a Art form
@jvmc08 how do good lyrics and good music have to be mutually exclusive in your mind and why cant you accept lyrical content as a very important part of music and has to fit in with the tune comfortably.
also please dont presume i no nothing of other genres and styles. its a high and mighty attitude from a misinformed person. i met tony bianco today, an avant garde jazz drummer, i listen to TRoK and am currently arguing hip hops strengths in a black dahlia murder tee shirt.
@Saugori I"m presuming that you no nothing about other genres because you are defending hip-hop like it was the greatest music on earth, a genre that is basically exclusive to lyrics. Melodies in a song can say more than any lyric could, thats what you don't understand. You probably don't understand it because you think a melody is something that is just looped for 4 minutes...
@jvmc08 and you seem to think that hip hop is terrible and has no musicality, anyway, im bored of this now, i see that we are both very stubborn and that is all, fair enough, ill just leave you to it otherwise it with ruin this song for me
@Saugori Smartest thing either of you have said. You both had fair points, but the rest of us were getting tired of the exchange. Yes, let's get back to the song.
@Saugori I just listened to nine Reign of Kindo songs in a row and I haven't the slightest idea what any of the lyrics were, but I certainly was amazed and swept up by the music. You should avoid making sweeping presumptions as to the way other people listen to music and accept that it's a multi-faceted art form.
@CerisaCristal im not making presumptions, im looking from the perspective of an artist, who listens and identifies elements of music which makes it "good" and makes the consumer, who is, a person who wants to listen to a song for one of these 3 reasons,
1.groove e.g. ability to dance to it
2.story e.g lyrical content
3.melody e.g chord progressions and/or riffs
TRoK has all 3 so its inconsequential that you know no lyrics as 2/3 is often the most people can do
@Saugori It's interesting how you define good music, but this is what I'm talking about with "presumptions". Those are not the only reasons to listen to music. How about timbre? There are many bands that I listen to solely because they have a richness of tone that few others achieve. Or style? I know I instantly swoon whenever latin-jazz themes get introduced, like is common for this band. And what exactly do you mean "2/3 is often the most people can do?"
@CerisaCristal 2 out of three of those elements i previously said are usually all an artist can do with pop music only really doing 1 out of three and then making catchy hooks to simulate the others with minimal effort.
its not how i define good music, its how to identify the most commonly appreciated elements of music that is most important to say 90% of music consumers and in music i'm afraid "good" goes with the majority (i hate it myself but its true)
@xzander your an idiot, just because a group uses chords with a 7 in doesn't mean it's jazz
also your statement about metal being "about pentagrams or satan killing goats or unescapable darkness or shit nobody cares about" then referring to it's listeners as narrow minded i feel is quite hypocritical.
so i think you need to keep your comments to yourself about jazz and metal until you know what they are and mean
@Saugori "jazz isn't good, nobody likes it, it died 30 years ago as music to like" <--- and YOU are trying to teach me about music. You hipsters are so funny lol. Well, since you don't pay me for expressing myself I can say (with all due respect I have towards you as a human being) you can shove your advice up your ass :) kthxbye
@xzander it wasn't advice, i wasn't talking to you in that comment and you took it out of context aswell as diverting away from your hypocritical comment.
also what is a hipster??because im probably not one
oh yea, jazz did die as a popular genre 30 years ago and also no longer really furthers the technical understanding of music that we have. don't get me wrong, i love jazz but it is a stale genre
@Saugori And neither was I talking to you in my first comment but you still replied, right? It's a common practice called "giving your opinion". I use it as much as you do. Don't know what a hipster is? Google is your buddy
So now I only can reply to comments directly made at me lol. To call someone a hypocrite, you sure do know a lot about the topic, huh? That's ok, go back to listening to your animal collective albums and feel so know-it-all teaching people about music if it makes you happy.
@mattjohnston001 Well if you want to listen to real talent listen to Opeth, listen to their songs. I would recommend that you listen to Windowpane, To Bid You Farewell, and Bleak but they have many many other great songs too... and yes these guys do have a bit of talent, but I see them more as a 3 minute parody than a great band.
theres no words to describe the feelings that this music got within it. Their passion is incredible. But did anyone noticed great wise and experience that is contained in the lirycs of TRoK? They opend my eyes on many things that i didn't notice in the past. Great work guys, keep going! Greetings from Poland!
seriously I love this band with all my heart. but the keyboarder seems to play some different tune on the verse (or whatever) and I don't get the same feeling than on cd... :(
@MariusBorjans I guess that's what happens when you get different musicians. This is their new keys player and taking into account that he had to learn to play songs he had no part in writing, I think he did an outstanding job.
Every Reign of Kindo video there is has at least one can of redbull behind Joseph. It just makes me think they should turn these videos into Redbull commercials. I can see the slogan now. "Redbull. It turns you into real ROKers"
Wow these guys are nothing short of great. as fans we should help get there music out to more people. do like i do plaster your facebook with there videos , i'm from Cape Breton Canada and no one here heard of The Reign of Kindo ,but beleive me they here of them now thanks to facebook. Thank's B Penney.
I think this song deals with the dangerousness of saying things you don't mean when you're angry, comparing violent words to "bullets in the air." Then the dissonance, the cacophony of the sounds of all the instruments blaring, allows the listener to clearly visualize the bullets in the air. It's like the sound of a machine gun. It's genius. These guys are so talented.
hmmm...could be, the only problem there is that M-boxes need Protools LE to work and they would need two computers to run each m-box. plus it looks like they are in a semi-pro studio where they would use Protools HD or some other professional program not LE. I also doubt the engineer would connect the out from the m-box straight into the recording console and then another to the amps, thats what DI boxes are for. ive been trying to fugure it out for a while now...haha
@virtuosolead my guess is everyone except the drummer's instruments are going straight into the mbox's and then being sent to their amps in other isolated rooms so the engineer had more control over the mix without everyone's gear bleeding into each other's mics. keyboard probably going straight in to the board. after all this, they are hearing their amps back through their in ear monitors.
@Ianedgerly Hmm, don't know. It might have been. He starts off in A then goes up a half note. It sounds like a slip but it also sounds intentional because it fits. If it was a slip, good recovery. Also, if it was, I like that fact because it confirms that these are really live studio recordings. That being the case, DAMN, these guys are good.
@malikamakamuki doesn't sound bad, but I'm an engineer and it sounds like when pitch correction software loses it's tracking. That being said, he is an amazing singer, and all professional bands use autotune live now pretty much. I'm guessing he may have even sounded better with the autotune off. These guys are definitely the real deal.
@malikamakamuki This is live. I don't think rpoland has posted any non-live recordings, I haven't found any. I've heard some with mistakes, but I won't name them.
@MrRigRar Oh, I knew it was live. I said that for those that had any doubts. Kindo has a live concert vid that was so well performed & mixed that some thought it was dubbed. (check out "ROK Song One" on youtube)
@Ianedgerly I doubt it, I see no reason the singer would use autotune. He can sing just fine and autotune doesn't add a desirable effect for this genre.
For anyone who thinks this song is chaotic, listen to some jazz. You'll see it's a widely appreciated form, though it does take a bit of understanding to feel the emotion behind it and not just hear it as "noise".
I really think these guys are refreshing, something unique yet they remind me of the music of twenty years ago...when people actually learned ho to play their instrument. You know, not just majors and minors. Good stuff.
@jackthexplorer You're just repeating yourself. i have no problem with posting opinions if you think it's bad. but if you're going to post pointless comments that just say "it's just noise" then back it up with something that makes sense. At least offer some constructive criticism to the band, otherwise it's just disrespectful and it's not helping anything. these guys have a lot of tallent.
@Teddius1138 if you have no probelm with me posting my opinion then dont get aggy when you see it....and if you so wish for my constructive criticism then personally i feel like they were playing about 5 different songs, it sounds to me like they are trying to be original by mixing up different genre's but sounds bad.....
this is real music.... music is not just for make money is for feed your soul and intelect, is awesome that you have the BALLS to make this kind of music i really really congratulate you... i hope were on contact PEACE..
this is real music.... music is not just for make money is for feed your soul and intelect, is awesome that you have the BALLS to make this kind of music i really really congratulate you... i hope were on contact PEACE...
Reign of kindo is seriously genius, gotta love their music!
the only thing is that I wish Kelly Sciandra was still the pianist.. He was AMAZING
Danny Pizarro Jr is really good as well, not gonna lie, Hes really good! but still, I prefer the album version more.. It just doesn't seem the same here haha.. maybe its the EQ
But truly, I Dont wan't to undermine The Reign of Kindo.. This song is one of my favorites :] <3
i love it when the singer comes in with his guitar. It comes from a chaotic sound to peaceful and breezy. This is a really great song. very well put together. These guys have got some freakin tallent.
@uhav2nvme Go listen to your mainstream pop music then. You obviously dont have the musical sense to apritiate use of dissonance, interesting chord progressions, use of uncommon scales etc
The busy part in between seems to fit the song in its entirety. I don't find it too chaotic. It's rather appropriate for the song.
I don't recall the piano as being as much dissonant as it is in this video than it was in the studio recording. Nevertheless, I am pleased to see a video released for this song. Keep it up, TRoK!
i'll be honest, i love the music but the lead singer isn't doing much for me. (sorry)
shinysquid 3 weeks ago
@shinysquid Then you, my friend, have just become part of the nation's newest minority.
malikamakamuki 3 weeks ago in playlist The Reign of Kindo
@malikamakamuki yay! do i get my own holiday? or month?
shinysquid 3 weeks ago
@shinysquid LOL! Kudos to you. That was a good one.
malikamakamuki 2 weeks ago in playlist The Reign of Kindo
@shinysquid This is what a good singer sounds like without all the studio polish.
CasAyOhIcidhe 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
at 1:40 it sounds like opeth :D
DistortionBug 1 month ago
@DistortionBug Nah, the melody is too happy. Opeth uses darker sounding melodies, but with a few modifications.
MusicByAngels 3 weeks ago
@MusicByAngels though i can't see the happiness, i agree with the darker sounding melodies. i searched for the song i had in mind when hearing this guitar solo part ... without success. but when i find the song, i'll post again, so we can compare :)
(i'm coming from germany, so i apologize for my poor english :D )
DistortionBug 3 weeks ago
man, that re20 is beat up
ProjectSalvo 2 months ago in playlist More videos from rpoland
wow 67 idiots listened to this song.
RebeccaSue23 2 months ago
This is what you'd get if Robin Thicke joined The Mars Volta.
I stumbled across this band on Spotify like 10 minutes ago. Probably the greatest thing i've come across, musically, in 2011.
johnnycakes2k 2 months ago
66 people deaf don´t like this....
MAMG1990 2 months ago
These guys are gonna be so big if they go on...
schamp92 2 months ago 2
@MrTconga Bottom line, damn good music, in my opinion
malikamakamuki 5 months ago in playlist The Reign of Kindo Videos
@MrTconga I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just stating my opinion and attempting to back it up, is all. It "sounds" more indie than anything else, but jazz isn't technically about sound. Just look at ragtime or Django Reinhardt-esque gypsy jazz. To each his own, though. Sorry if I came across as a troll. :/
Samus5164 5 months ago
@Samus5164 OK, both of you. The "jazz" thing started at the very beginning, their first EP. It was so fresh & new that people didn't know where to place their style, so a form of jazz was one of the words. They never called themselves jazz, but magazine critics saw a slight jazz influence in songs like Needle & Thread, Hard to Believe, etc. They themselves never called their stuff jazz but if anything call it "lay-jazz." Not pure jazz, but jazz for the layman on a step towards jazz.
malikamakamuki 5 months ago in playlist The Reign of Kindo Videos
@MrTconga this band incorporates forced rhythms, improvisations, and syncopation. I wouldn't say that Justin Bieber is a form of music, but by definition, he is. It might not be future-prog-art-jazz-rock-fusion or some other specific bullshit subgenre, but it's definitely some form of jazz, or at least is something derived from it.
Samus5164 5 months ago
@MrTconga its modern sounded more likely fusion-with some funk and damn big great harass thingy...
seqoo 5 months ago
@MrTconga Jazz is defined as "a type of music of black American origin characterized by improvisation, syncopation, and usually a regular or forceful rhythm, emerging at the beginning of the 20th century". Good job, genius.
Samus5164 5 months ago
@MrTconga Do you know what Jazz is?
kara7689 5 months ago
they run on Red Bull
MrCarlos31188 5 months ago
can someone clarify - quintet or septet?
BorisGaquere 6 months ago
@BorisGaquere quin
IsThatAPerson 5 months ago
wait what the sax players name?
aussiemilla 7 months ago
what do you call this kind of genre? it's so good!
kugmo04 7 months ago
@kugmo04
One of a kind. That's what you call it. haha
buffserker1919 7 months ago
@kugmo04 I think it's technically jazz. At least that's what a musician friend with experience in similar music says. Unlike any other jazz I've heard though.
FunWithSexbad 7 months ago
@FunWithSexbad Yeah, it's jazz, but it's got a lot of indie in it. So I just call it indie jazz.
RomeSkateFoSho 7 months ago
@kugmo04 If you were to try to put labels on it, it'd be jazz/rock/fusion/indie/winning. Or something like that. :)
TheDancingSaxophone 6 months ago 2
who dis liked this ....they need help in music tatse .....dicks
brandonwainscoat 8 months ago 5
This is so unbelievably phenomenal.
Suddenregression 8 months ago
1:42 - Wait I hear a cello...
1:49 -Where did he come from!?
Sounds like an organized version of Volta, and i realize i might get flamed for this be eh. And i love TMV ,but just saying.
These Guys are Amazing
xXJmG47Xx 8 months ago 16
@xXJmG47Xx Organized??? Coulda fooled me. The first minute or so sounds like one big jumbled noise.
Bcuzieatiron 4 months ago in playlist More videos from rpoland
@Bcuzieatiron That's the idea. The disorganized intro provides something to contrast the more organized chorus against, making the choruses and especially the bridge stand out even more than they would alone when compared to the noise in the introduction.
~Oppress the audience (intro)
~Play something nice to artificially alleviate anxiety that you put there yourself (verse)
~Drop their attention by completely changing the pacing (bridge)
~Rinse and repeat. Basic songwriting for live shows.
shadowcatcher511 3 months ago in playlist The Reign of Kindo
@xXJmG47Xx gotta agree! Only on this song though. I always wanted to like the volta but never could. WAY to sloppy.
KatsuGuitar 1 month ago
@xXJmG47Xx I'm agreein dude, this song at least has a definite mars volta mood and feel
anewpaige 1 month ago in playlist The Reign of Kindo
Really nice song indeed! A shame it got interrupted and the ending wasnt as expected...
vitorfray 8 months ago
@OceanPeace3 Yeah =D I've been freaking out XD its such a good song!
holyswordsmanoffaith 9 months ago
@OceanPeace3 You got your wish =D Nightingale was fucking fantastic.
holyswordsmanoffaith 9 months ago
@OceanPeace3 you're in luck then!
lockstick 9 months ago
@OceanPeace3 it's on!
telqar 9 months ago
really like it!
telqar 9 months ago
Sort of gives me that "as tall as lions" and "acceptance" feel. this band is amazing
BrusiusMatthew 9 months ago
chromatic scales ftw!!!!!
TheFunkyCriminal 9 months ago
where was this recorded? that studio looks really familiar...
kaminskimusic 9 months ago
This is such a smooth yet chaotic song! Though I do miss the dual guitars they had on RC&M. I hope Michael Carol does more in the next album, they seemed to have put him too background in this.
ShadowCrowX 10 months ago
@OceanPeace3 They did :D
ShadowCrowX 10 months ago
Amazing.
Tapout474 10 months ago
absolutely fuckin terrible
asianaxeman 10 months ago
words are like bullets, I let 'em go right through me
itscurbe 10 months ago
Thumbs up if Periphery linked you here.
heartlessentity 10 months ago 54
@heartlessentity periphery sucks wish bulb was just a one man band
IsThatAPerson 5 months ago 2
Guys, they are just giving themselves out. It's good that this vocalist is trying hard, he's giving all he can do and this is beautiful. The rythm is great, n voice waves i like too, rly good job!
StepiENtertain 10 months ago
@vgmshadix I'm only "hating on" this band because it just sounds like they "try to hard" and just basically because their music is just too thin. And what is "RAGH metal"?
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 "RAGH" metal is basically what you just describe. Music sounding too "thick", or whatever the hell that means. This is from a genre called "jazz", kiddo. Listen to it, understand it, and you'll have the key to success.
Besides, relax a little, boy. Not everything in music has to be about pentagrams or satan killing goats or unescapable darkness or shit nobody cares about. Sit down, have a good listen, find your tastes. Metalheads can't be that stupidly narrow-minded, they just can't
xzander 10 months ago
@xzander I play in a Jazz combo so I should know that this is not Jazz, its just contemporary bull shit. I said it sounded thin, like a symphony without any viols and if it did have all the viols it would sound "Full/complete'. And where did you get this concept about heavy Metal being only anti religious, I told you to listen to
Opeth- To Bid You Farewell I never said anothing about metal either
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 and you, stop being so high and mighty, just because you think it sounds "thin" doesn't mean it's incomplete and you can hardly call contemporary music bullshit with this band being one of the most listened to bands on youtube.
if you are a jazz player you would know that jazz isn't good, nobody likes it, it died 30 years ago as music to like and was replaced by hip-hop and is now just the melting pot from which good things develop
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori Jazz is a great genre, sure it does have some really bad songs but it still has tons of great songs too, just like any other genre. Hip-Hop is probably the worst genre in existance, it has minimal music theory and its filled with so called "artist" (not musicians) that just steal music from others(well most of them, not all).
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 if you say jazz is great and hip hop isn't your an idiot and you don't know what hip hop is.
what is jazz? improvisation over a form
what is hip hop? improvisation either lyrically over a sample or lyrically and musically over a form
hip hop is in fact just a slight extension of jazz and if you listen to is it tends to be very similar in its 2,5,1 chord progressions just with highly complex rhythmical vocal lines
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori you can't compare Jazz with hip-hop, hip-hop was created because of the lack of musical skill. Instead of using music theory they used something that they were more familiar with, words(with the exception of bad grammer).
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 okay then lets see how long it takes you to use 2 turntables like grand master flash could im afraid it is musical skill, just differently evolved, a world class DJ is on a similar proficiency and musical knowledge level as a world class drummer and a hip hop band (real three, four or five piece) like the roots or the gym class heroes early albums they are just jazz bands with MCs fronting them
also, dont insult a whole lifestyle you know nothing of you ignorant bellendrical arse
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori Its maybe because you grew up with hip-hop and never focused on any other genre to recognize what true musical talent really is. A lot of people say they love music and when I take a look at their mp3/Ipod all I see is a bunch of American artist(not musicians), listen to music from around the world and in different languages. A repetitive hip-hop song cannot compare with a classical masterpiece, not even with a Symphonic Metal piece...
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 im currently a music student concentrating my efforts on musical history so its fresh in my mind im afraid and im also starting to think that you really don't know what im talking about take this example
Miguel Piniero- a spoken word artist/poet who in the 60s/70s pushed the difficulties of living in the shit bits of new york to the fore with spoken work to jazz backings, hip hop is a direct evolution and current form of jazz also im not at all talking about rap
im talking hip hop
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori and yet you still keep talking about hip-hop and Jazz... hip-hop is its own genre and rap is a sub genre of hip-hop...its the same with Rock n Roll is its own genre not blues, even though it developed from blues. Same with Jazz, it developed from Classical and folk music, but still has its own genre in music. You just think that hip-hop is the greatest genre, even though its far from it... and I too am a "music student" going into the world of audio production and a musician as well
jvmc08 10 months ago
@Saugori lyrics are the least important element of music. Music was created as a new language, a new form of expression because words aren't always enough. It doesn't mean you can't add poetry to music, just don't make music revolve around the lyrics because at the end all you have is shitty pop music
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 actually music was first created as a science by greeks and was forbidden as an art form so your wrong there.
and lyrics are the most important parts of most music.
whats jeff buckley without lyrics? just a pretty little melody
what is bullets in the air without lyrics? just another slightly jazzy prog tune that nobody cares about, good but in no way special.
lyrics are what make a song come alive in pretty much all styles that aren't classically composed and orchestral
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori exactly you take the lyrics off any pop song and they all sound THE SAME or incomplete... most pop music revolves around the lyrics and in the end you just water down the music, you simplify it just so the lyrics can stand out. Don't take my word for it, don't argue with, just listen to music for yourself and not just one genre listen to music from all corners of the world. And music was created nearly simultaneously by many cultures, and yes music acts as a Science and as a Art form
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 how do good lyrics and good music have to be mutually exclusive in your mind and why cant you accept lyrical content as a very important part of music and has to fit in with the tune comfortably.
also please dont presume i no nothing of other genres and styles. its a high and mighty attitude from a misinformed person. i met tony bianco today, an avant garde jazz drummer, i listen to TRoK and am currently arguing hip hops strengths in a black dahlia murder tee shirt.
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori I"m presuming that you no nothing about other genres because you are defending hip-hop like it was the greatest music on earth, a genre that is basically exclusive to lyrics. Melodies in a song can say more than any lyric could, thats what you don't understand. You probably don't understand it because you think a melody is something that is just looped for 4 minutes...
jvmc08 10 months ago
@jvmc08 and you seem to think that hip hop is terrible and has no musicality, anyway, im bored of this now, i see that we are both very stubborn and that is all, fair enough, ill just leave you to it otherwise it with ruin this song for me
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori Smartest thing either of you have said. You both had fair points, but the rest of us were getting tired of the exchange. Yes, let's get back to the song.
Ninjathing16 10 months ago
@Saugori I just listened to nine Reign of Kindo songs in a row and I haven't the slightest idea what any of the lyrics were, but I certainly was amazed and swept up by the music. You should avoid making sweeping presumptions as to the way other people listen to music and accept that it's a multi-faceted art form.
CerisaCristal 10 months ago
@CerisaCristal im not making presumptions, im looking from the perspective of an artist, who listens and identifies elements of music which makes it "good" and makes the consumer, who is, a person who wants to listen to a song for one of these 3 reasons,
1.groove e.g. ability to dance to it
2.story e.g lyrical content
3.melody e.g chord progressions and/or riffs
TRoK has all 3 so its inconsequential that you know no lyrics as 2/3 is often the most people can do
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori It's interesting how you define good music, but this is what I'm talking about with "presumptions". Those are not the only reasons to listen to music. How about timbre? There are many bands that I listen to solely because they have a richness of tone that few others achieve. Or style? I know I instantly swoon whenever latin-jazz themes get introduced, like is common for this band. And what exactly do you mean "2/3 is often the most people can do?"
CerisaCristal 10 months ago
@CerisaCristal 2 out of three of those elements i previously said are usually all an artist can do with pop music only really doing 1 out of three and then making catchy hooks to simulate the others with minimal effort.
its not how i define good music, its how to identify the most commonly appreciated elements of music that is most important to say 90% of music consumers and in music i'm afraid "good" goes with the majority (i hate it myself but its true)
Saugori 10 months ago
@xzander your an idiot, just because a group uses chords with a 7 in doesn't mean it's jazz
also your statement about metal being "about pentagrams or satan killing goats or unescapable darkness or shit nobody cares about" then referring to it's listeners as narrow minded i feel is quite hypocritical.
so i think you need to keep your comments to yourself about jazz and metal until you know what they are and mean
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori "jazz isn't good, nobody likes it, it died 30 years ago as music to like" <--- and YOU are trying to teach me about music. You hipsters are so funny lol. Well, since you don't pay me for expressing myself I can say (with all due respect I have towards you as a human being) you can shove your advice up your ass :) kthxbye
xzander 10 months ago
@xzander it wasn't advice, i wasn't talking to you in that comment and you took it out of context aswell as diverting away from your hypocritical comment.
also what is a hipster??because im probably not one
oh yea, jazz did die as a popular genre 30 years ago and also no longer really furthers the technical understanding of music that we have. don't get me wrong, i love jazz but it is a stale genre
Saugori 10 months ago
@Saugori And neither was I talking to you in my first comment but you still replied, right? It's a common practice called "giving your opinion". I use it as much as you do. Don't know what a hipster is? Google is your buddy
So now I only can reply to comments directly made at me lol. To call someone a hypocrite, you sure do know a lot about the topic, huh? That's ok, go back to listening to your animal collective albums and feel so know-it-all teaching people about music if it makes you happy.
xzander 10 months ago
@mattjohnston001 Well if you want to listen to real talent listen to Opeth, listen to their songs. I would recommend that you listen to Windowpane, To Bid You Farewell, and Bleak but they have many many other great songs too... and yes these guys do have a bit of talent, but I see them more as a 3 minute parody than a great band.
jvmc08 10 months ago
theres no words to describe the feelings that this music got within it. Their passion is incredible. But did anyone noticed great wise and experience that is contained in the lirycs of TRoK? They opend my eyes on many things that i didn't notice in the past. Great work guys, keep going! Greetings from Poland!
Kurdt20 11 months ago 2
CELLO!! 8D
MusicPhilosophy 11 months ago
@OceanPeace3 They did now :) I just watched it... awesome...
musicdelunaonline 11 months ago
fucking incredible
bce5150 11 months ago
@OceanPeace3 Your dream just came true :)
GNSstudios 1 year ago
@OceanPeace3 They have my good man :)
Herfer 1 year ago
@OceanPeace3 they just did :)
TheMeanZebra 1 year ago
great ban...great voice...great drummer =)
AlessioDan 1 year ago
@OceanPeace3 i'm going to make your day sir, it is out now
LdBorja 1 year ago
The drummer is crazy
MrTwistedZombie 1 year ago
marc from veil of maya posted this. i was instantly hooked
AlexQ9319 1 year ago
@AlexQ9319 hey that's funny that's exactly how i found out about this band like two days ago. hahaha.
Obfuscate02 1 year ago
@OceanPeace3 same. absolutely love that song.
domdom87 1 year ago
Epic drummer is epic.
JayLovePlaysGuitar 1 year ago 2
The beggining reminds me of Porcupine tree =P
eltuzo466 1 year ago
63 people got hit by bullets in the air
tambourDOM 1 year ago
This deserves ten times the views it's getting
lefty3657 1 year ago
1:40 !!
Wow , amazing
Kind of reminds me of radiohead
Akhin 1 year ago
so good
DesertJorden 1 year ago
seriously I love this band with all my heart. but the keyboarder seems to play some different tune on the verse (or whatever) and I don't get the same feeling than on cd... :(
MariusBorjans 1 year ago
@MariusBorjans I guess that's what happens when you get different musicians. This is their new keys player and taking into account that he had to learn to play songs he had no part in writing, I think he did an outstanding job.
ThePadintor 1 year ago
@OceanPeace3 I'd love them to do one of these videos for their entire discography!
ShadowCrowX 1 year ago
crazy drummer!
zammo94 1 year ago
damn this is awesome...
weebok4412 1 year ago
its like Mars volta less chaotic :)
4656343353 1 year ago 2
Every Reign of Kindo video there is has at least one can of redbull behind Joseph. It just makes me think they should turn these videos into Redbull commercials. I can see the slogan now. "Redbull. It turns you into real ROKers"
Metallicedearth 1 year ago
Wow these guys are nothing short of great. as fans we should help get there music out to more people. do like i do plaster your facebook with there videos , i'm from Cape Breton Canada and no one here heard of The Reign of Kindo ,but beleive me they here of them now thanks to facebook. Thank's B Penney.
mingo7777 1 year ago
TROK roks.
SuperGamer87 1 year ago
I think this song deals with the dangerousness of saying things you don't mean when you're angry, comparing violent words to "bullets in the air." Then the dissonance, the cacophony of the sounds of all the instruments blaring, allows the listener to clearly visualize the bullets in the air. It's like the sound of a machine gun. It's genius. These guys are so talented.
Rael0505 1 year ago
Joseph Secchiaroli = Matt LeBlanc?
williamindragunawan 1 year ago
this was the first song i ever heard by them and ive loved them ever since
ConnerDrummer 1 year ago
Tabs????
Kisha870 1 year ago
hmmm...could be, the only problem there is that M-boxes need Protools LE to work and they would need two computers to run each m-box. plus it looks like they are in a semi-pro studio where they would use Protools HD or some other professional program not LE. I also doubt the engineer would connect the out from the m-box straight into the recording console and then another to the amps, thats what DI boxes are for. ive been trying to fugure it out for a while now...haha
virtuosolead 1 year ago
I noticed they are in a studio...so what are the M-boxes for, i noticed there is one for the guitar player and the keyboard player. FX maybe?
virtuosolead 1 year ago
@virtuosolead my guess is everyone except the drummer's instruments are going straight into the mbox's and then being sent to their amps in other isolated rooms so the engineer had more control over the mix without everyone's gear bleeding into each other's mics. keyboard probably going straight in to the board. after all this, they are hearing their amps back through their in ear monitors.
Ianedgerly 1 year ago
can u guys do one of these studio vids for nightingale?
domdom87 1 year ago
1:55 autotune slip up?
Ianedgerly 1 year ago
@Ianedgerly Hmm, don't know. It might have been. He starts off in A then goes up a half note. It sounds like a slip but it also sounds intentional because it fits. If it was a slip, good recovery. Also, if it was, I like that fact because it confirms that these are really live studio recordings. That being the case, DAMN, these guys are good.
malikamakamuki 1 year ago
@malikamakamuki doesn't sound bad, but I'm an engineer and it sounds like when pitch correction software loses it's tracking. That being said, he is an amazing singer, and all professional bands use autotune live now pretty much. I'm guessing he may have even sounded better with the autotune off. These guys are definitely the real deal.
Ianedgerly 1 year ago
@malikamakamuki This is live. I don't think rpoland has posted any non-live recordings, I haven't found any. I've heard some with mistakes, but I won't name them.
MrRigRar 1 year ago
@MrRigRar Oh, I knew it was live. I said that for those that had any doubts. Kindo has a live concert vid that was so well performed & mixed that some thought it was dubbed. (check out "ROK Song One" on youtube)
malikamakamuki 1 year ago
@Ianedgerly I doubt it, I see no reason the singer would use autotune. He can sing just fine and autotune doesn't add a desirable effect for this genre.
MrRigRar 1 year ago
@Ianedgerly i'm pretty sure that was intentional dude
Waterworks410 1 year ago
For anyone who thinks this song is chaotic, listen to some jazz. You'll see it's a widely appreciated form, though it does take a bit of understanding to feel the emotion behind it and not just hear it as "noise".
handidrummed 1 year ago
@rpoland YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE SHOWS ARE 21+!!!!!
Singlelite7 1 year ago
They are incredibly talented musicians, but I'm afraid, that I cannot listen to their music :S... Something just makes me in a bad mood....
Sacresoul 1 year ago
the drummer makes this song.
anttik1979 1 year ago
@anttik1979 Lies.
MrRigRar 1 year ago
@rpoland what a great birthday gift that'd be on the 15th for me! Bummer I live in Chicago. Bring them out here to Chicago/Milwaukee!
SolarenDerm 1 year ago
Thats Bullshit to my ears, but thats just my opinion ---> no flames
MetalMonsi 1 year ago
I have all their albums. They're truly one amazing group of artists.
ipodkiller6 1 year ago
this song is so hectic my computers frame rate actually dropped.
Dylanhennessy 1 year ago
Finally refreshing music! Something outside of the norm!
GNSstudios 1 year ago
I haven't been excited about a band, as when listening to these guys, for a while! Great combination of instrumentation and dynamics.
gianchi66 1 year ago
This is AWESOME!
PolkaP1G 1 year ago
their drummer fuckin rips
thisiswebbmaster 1 year ago
so complex i love it
OoPHaze 1 year ago
I really think these guys are refreshing, something unique yet they remind me of the music of twenty years ago...when people actually learned ho to play their instrument. You know, not just majors and minors. Good stuff.
XDrummerSteve 1 year ago
amazing! loved it!
nandahrasko 1 year ago
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this is shit....just noise
jackthexplorer 1 year ago
@jackthexplorer give me an explanation. back up your opinion. how is this "shit"?
Teddius1138 1 year ago
@Teddius1138 like i said when i initially commented...just noise...smartass
jackthexplorer 1 year ago
@jackthexplorer You're just repeating yourself. i have no problem with posting opinions if you think it's bad. but if you're going to post pointless comments that just say "it's just noise" then back it up with something that makes sense. At least offer some constructive criticism to the band, otherwise it's just disrespectful and it's not helping anything. these guys have a lot of tallent.
Teddius1138 1 year ago
@Teddius1138 if you have no probelm with me posting my opinion then dont get aggy when you see it....and if you so wish for my constructive criticism then personally i feel like they were playing about 5 different songs, it sounds to me like they are trying to be original by mixing up different genre's but sounds bad.....
jackthexplorer 1 year ago
@jackthexplorer Now that you say that, it makes sense. i guess that would sound kinda bad so some people. Thanks for clarifying. Peace out.
Teddius1138 1 year ago
@jackthexplorer youre shit
lalox14 1 year ago
@jackthexplorer he hasn't opened his ears...not his fault
GundamEclipzed37 1 year ago
@jackthexplorer the fuck?
thisfreakingname 1 year ago
this is real music.... music is not just for make money is for feed your soul and intelect, is awesome that you have the BALLS to make this kind of music i really really congratulate you... i hope were on contact PEACE..
swinklemorboso293 1 year ago
this is real music.... music is not just for make money is for feed your soul and intelect, is awesome that you have the BALLS to make this kind of music i really really congratulate you... i hope were on contact PEACE...
swinklemorboso293 1 year ago
Awesome music BY awesome musicians FOR awesome musicians
IAmBiased 1 year ago
Yeah! This are musicians!
hamedolk3 1 year ago
this is very different... I like it!
ShawRoadProductions 1 year ago
king crimson returns....
mensamoo 1 year ago
Reign of kindo is seriously genius, gotta love their music!
the only thing is that I wish Kelly Sciandra was still the pianist.. He was AMAZING
Danny Pizarro Jr is really good as well, not gonna lie, Hes really good! but still, I prefer the album version more.. It just doesn't seem the same here haha.. maybe its the EQ
But truly, I Dont wan't to undermine The Reign of Kindo.. This song is one of my favorites :] <3
DaNwUzHeRe 1 year ago
i love it when the singer comes in with his guitar. It comes from a chaotic sound to peaceful and breezy. This is a really great song. very well put together. These guys have got some freakin tallent.
Teddius1138 1 year ago
the 54 people that disliked must be fans of nickelback.
pinpoint45 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS! if this is not your genre, then dont rate it! Cant wait for more!!!
HoundCaveProduction 1 year ago
Sounds a little like Mars Volta with a bit of incubus in the voice.
It's pretty cool
xbtube 1 year ago 2
Interesting - imaginative- magical- yes
deurotelle 1 year ago
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O this sucks so bad!!! Are they even playing the same song?
uhav2nvme 1 year ago
@uhav2nvme ???
Splurgendii 1 year ago
@uhav2nvme Go listen to your mainstream pop music then. You obviously dont have the musical sense to apritiate use of dissonance, interesting chord progressions, use of uncommon scales etc
acousticems 1 year ago
@uhav2nvme uhm.....ya sure. k. ever head of creativity?
phillip357 1 year ago
A cada dia eu fico mais fã de vocês!
Parabéns!
robsondiem 1 year ago
The busy part in between seems to fit the song in its entirety. I don't find it too chaotic. It's rather appropriate for the song.
I don't recall the piano as being as much dissonant as it is in this video than it was in the studio recording. Nevertheless, I am pleased to see a video released for this song. Keep it up, TRoK!
camo1018 1 year ago 20
@camo1018 It is a differen't pianist that the studio version.
Isythos 11 months ago
@camo1018
i agree. the busy parts have almost an old school jazz aspect to them, it only adds to the richness of the music in my opinion
MusicPhilosophy 11 months ago
Great talent, go on!! We all need musicians like you! :)
shironia 1 year ago