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  • This spring I am going to start the Yi Jin Jing. I have some questions.

    The process begins with the 100 day programme. How does this look like? How can I imagine this?

    How much time does it take to practice every day? One hour?

    At last, but not least: I know well the european herbals. Can you please write down the recepies in English written in Dr. Yang's Yi Jin Jing book? So that I could probably check the Chinese herbs with the european ones.

    Thank you for help!

  • A very big part of the yi jin jing is opening of all the joints in the body, so that the tendons can be torqued without tension getting caught in the muscles, but instead, it transfers and joins the path of least resistance to and from the ground with the ground reaction force. The breath as well, involves muscles that also have tendons, and even the torque of those tendons join the ground path, which directs the pressure from the lungs to join the weight of the body in same path. 400chars :(

  • Can aynone tell me which of his dvds contains this form??

  • This is preformed in front of Shaolin... if you have studied study History of Shaolin you would know this has been passed for thousands of generations. Rewritten from memory, due to the Threat of fall Shaolin, the fact that the you can strengthen your tendons and joints from this excersise is amazing! If only we truly posessed the original manuscript, and even pieces of the second manuscript, lost to time from sifu bodhidarma would be un-perceptional

  • At 2:18 what's that form

  • Can I just follow these physical movements and I 'll be doing the Yi Jing Jing or do I also have to know some internal breathing techniques that accompanies these sets of movements ?

  • Can u show some videos, of how u doing it step by step, do i neeed to be in a "form" before starting?

  • Lets all thank Bodhidarma for this

  • I can already use the kaiohkenx20 do I need this?

  • Nice set. Well done.Looks like it would make you feel pretty good.

  • i have opened my third eye and am in close touch with ones chi energy, from years of meditation and tai chi... do you not think i will have personal gain from practicing the muscle and tendon stretches of this monks Yi JIN JING without a learner?

  • @caliberninjitsu91

    vohhhh! caliberninjutsu, the name is allready impressive one.... ohohohohooo and he states that his third eye is opened! great bow to sifu and grandmaster of any art.....

  • so many variations so many add here add there,,,,seems confused to know which one or which movements is better...so many copycats just to gain popularity.everything now becomes so commercialised just because they want their VCds or DVds to sell well.They can say whatever they like...their is better than others.You are the person to judge and see for yourself.just like any other taichi or qigong laozhi...their aim is to make money....the longer u learn or stay with them they ahve more income?

  • when he does this does he use dan tian breathing the whole time

  • Im a beginner and really want to start learning but dont have money for classes or anything. can i follow these videos to learn? or do you know any websites that can help me?

  • @AwesomeVed You really need a teacher - you can learn the basic postures from any kind of Wushu/Kung fu and even Taichi/Qigong class at times, but I would recommend finding a good teacher and take it carefully - don't force anything out of frustration. Look for a way to enjoy it comfortably and don't let any teachers disrespect you - if they do, then just leave and find a better one. If the teacher hasn't apparently gained any humility from their art, then they are probably practicing wrongly.

  • @Erime Do you know of any teachers in america that teach this set of postures? Preferably on the east side.

  • @Erime your right about the teacher part. it is better to spend 5 years looking for the right teacher than 10 with the wrong one.. a lot of instructors in the west only learn how to do the motions but not how to direct the qi correctly, forcing it and such. with them you will only scratch the surface of the benefits from qigong. Don't worry if you are ready you'll find a teacher or know where to look, the great find the tao on the battlefield, only the weak on a mountain top.

  • @Erime" If the teacher hasn't apparently gained any humility from their art, then they are probably practicing wrongly." what a load of shit!!kungfu masters in the past who were not priests were extremely proud some where very harsh on their students , this is one natural effect when you gain power and are better than others.I can bet my life on it that you cant take a hard punch to the mid section.

  • @oscie1 good sir, try the great karate masters like Higaonna sensei for excample, i hope you dont deni he has gained very much chi or ki power and is better, far better than you i presume, still he has endless amount of humility to others.......

  • @oscie1 i can bet my life that you cant take even a couple of air blowen from Higaonnas mouth to the mid section of yours.....

  • @ekkenaab You should value your life more....silly boy.

  • @oscie1 GREAT MASTER has emanate HIS last warn to me...........

  • @ekkenaab Buddha is the only great master

  • @oscie1 Not true.  He's just one of the few earth-born great masters ;)

  • @Erime @Erime" If the teacher hasn't apparently gained any humility from their art, then they are probably practicing wrongly." what a load of shit!!kungfu masters in the past who were not priests were extremely proud some where very harsh on their students , this is one natural effect when you gain power and are better than others.I can bet my life on it that you cant take a hard punch to the mid section.

  • @AwesomeVed I'm learning yi jin jing from YMAA [Yang's Martial Arts Academy]. [Yi jin jing is a type of qigong.] Dr.Yang Jing-Ming teaches martial arts and qigong through his publishing house, selling books and videos. The best books to start with are "The Root of Chinese QiGong" and "QiGong, the Secret of Youth." Then there are the 6 "Understanding Qigong" videos. And you really should get the "QiGong Massage" video. I could afford these but I couldn't afford a real teacher, the best way.

  • Dear Awe, I'm learning yi jin jing from YMAA [Yang's Martial Arts Academy]. [Yi jin jing is a type of qigong.] Dr.Yang Jing-Ming teaches martial arts and qigong through his publishing house, selling books and videos. The best books to start with are "The Root of Chinese QiGong" and "QiGong, the Secret of Youth." Then there are the 6 "Understanding Qigong" videos. And you really should get the "QiGong Massage" video. I could afford these but I couldn't afford a real teacher, the best way.

  • I feel heavy legs!

  • actually, i am 66 years old, and practised it for more than 15 years. in the general outlines yarwer is right, "the tension should be through the breath/qi". But the tension is not only a mind tension like in Yi Quan, and the number of times that you have to do each movement is not stated

  • I have read that there can be no muscular tension at all- in fist form yi jin jing. One must visualize tensing his muscles but with no external movement. How it differs from another forms where tension is involved?

  • the tension should be through the breath/qi

    rather than imagining that you are physically causing tension - as in the iron wire forms of the hung gar system: whereby, you physically[and mentally] imagine shifting, pulling etc. a great weight, then the tension is exerted into the joints with turning movements and so forth

    in this form, it appears the idea is to remain completely relaxed and allow the correlation of opposing muscles/tendons to work out the correct strength "exertion" through qi

  • what exactly is this supposed to do to your body? anybody!! preferably a daily practitioner : ) your opinion will definitely be helpful

    thankyou

    respectfully

  • Hi, I am not a daily practitioner, but 'Visualised Resistance Training' appears to accomplish something similar - builds muscle through relaxation and tension without the use of weights (although putting additional pressure on the muscles and tendons apparently yields much higher results). This form also adds maintained/increased flexibility to the equation.

  • Basically, Chi Gong is to balance your mind, body and spirit. Da Mo great grandmaster created this for the monks to restore energy due to the bad circulation from meditation or any other reason you might encounter in this modern world.  Good for health. My master Shi Guo Song had taught me this and I love it for my good health. movements are some what different from one another.

  • Dude !! I'm not what u would term a daily practitioner, but i do practise kung fu...the physical along with the theoretical....and i blend the two with the guidance of my sifu.........these exercises DO IN FACT WORK, BUT if you do it in a mere mechanical way (i.e copy the motions) you will not reap the benefits, to reap the benefits of this 'exercise' you must be an ardent student of kung fu...and u must practice this with vizualization and belief..

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  • @comrad1986 @comrad1986 I try the motions halfway but I have felt energized.

    In term of kungfu, my knowledge is almost zero.

    I'll to do complete the movement gradually and see the result; Tip from Erime (breath out when moving out of body and breath in when doing the opposite) is helpful

  • @adityasandhu i wake up with this and the bone marrow cleansing (Xisuijing) together with some other ones. doing this gives me allot of energy though out the day i rarely ever get tired even during strenuous martial arts exercise. long term your body will create its own medicine and live very healthy.

  • @marsopilami187 Sounds like a good way to prepare in the morning despite not having any experience with this myself

  • @adityasandhu It is to improve joint flexibility and ease tensions in the body allowing you to be more oxygenated, as well as limber reducing stress and creating a harmonic environment and ideal to create healthy blood through cleaning of bone marrow.

  • @adityasandhu this exercise basically strengthens your tendons, there are lots of qi gung secretes with the yi jin jing but one of the main focuses is to strengthen your tendons, to make what holds your muscles together stronger.

  • Thanx for the posting!!!!

    Buddha bless you!!!

  • the performer is Shi De Yang, right?

  • yeah

  • Does anyone know how the breathing works on these movements??? I've learnet an style of Chi Kung many years ago that I've forgot completely and I've also forgot the name. I was thinking it was Yi Jing Jing, but it isn't. On this style the breathing was diaphragmatic, but the movments were static. It seems it was much more tough than Yi Jing Jing.

  • Generally with these things the breath can be left to flow naturally from the dantien as one moves and it will sort itself out instinctively. As a rough guide, movements away from the body which could issue energy (like a punch) tend to be accompanied by breathing out. Maybe the style you studied was more like DaChengChuan standing qigong - try the video 'Chen Xiao Wang teaches standing' - this is a very powerful qigong which lies at the core of the best internal martial arts

  • Thank you for your explanation! I've acquired the whole diagram of Yi Jin Jing and I will start to practice it. I've searched for the DaChengChuan that you've mentioned and ended finding out another technique of Chi Kung that I'd practiced together with the one I've forgot. It's called Zhan Zhuang Chi Kung. I remember we had to practice it before of going to the set of static positions which we had to stay for about 1 or 2 minutes to change to the next position.

  • But Erime, it's not what Chen Xiao Wang teaches on video that you did recomend. I remember it was a set of positions that first we had to put a lot of strenght on arms and other muscles and doing the positions with the hands open, like we were striking with the palms of our hands. Then later we would have to change to do movements in same way but with clenched fist, like we were crushing something on our hands. I remember I always had got very sweated on classes, my clothes completely wet.

  • I would very much like to find out what style of Chi King is that one I'd practiced when I was a teenage. Unfortunately my Si-Fu who has teached me this style of Chi Kung had to move to live in Japan and I never saw him anymore. I ended losing contact with him. But he was a very impressive master of Chi Kung. He has made very impressive demonstrations on martial arts tournaments at my country. He was able to stand above of an empty box of matches without crushing it, lika a levitation.

  • The core standing qigong - holding the ball is the same, generally, in Chen Xiao Wang's video and DaChengChuan. DaChengChuan can also be called YiQuan (Mind-form boxing), which has taken it's 'Yi' from Xing Yi - another internal martial art like Tai Chi and Bagua zhang - you've probably heard of this, but it sounds more like the art you described your teacher who went to Japan taught. Unfortunately this is the internal art I am least acquainted with. There are so many systems though - good luck!

  • The way you describe the set of excercises reminds me of Da Mo Wai Dan.

  • Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh!!!! Perfect! I've made a search at internet at this moment and I've found a book at Amazon website that shows the diagrams of that technique and it's exactly that Chi Kung technique that I've mentioned that I had practiced in the past. Thank you so much my friend for helping me to find out what I was trying to discover for years. Your perception to realise what I had tried to describe was perfect. Thank you! Good luck!

  • You're welcome!

    I'm glad that I could help you out with this :-)

    Good luck with the practicing, it's going to be tough, but you already know... ;-)

  • ialmost broke my ankle when you go like really low part first time i did this because my feet where a little wet and i ws on wood floor.........wasnt to smart

  • this is the REAL yi jinjing. the first TRUE copy i have seen yet, and trust me i have looked =] shi de yang does it again!

  • I looked a lot also, like yourself, and so when I found it I just had to post it! Glad you enjoyed :D

    I believe it's the only authentic demo on youtube (well it was when I posted it anyway).

  • ya man its cool to see authentic stuff on here. lol too much BOGUS!! and its the only one i've seen. where did u find it?

  • A forum somewhere where people posted a whole load of chinese videos teaching different kung fu and qigong styles - because they're mostly in Chinese then I guess they don't get distributed much. If you look; you will find! :D

  • whats the site i love qi gong and im always lookin for new forms to learn and new lessons

  • Posting for BioSattva also; can't find the link - it was a while ago now, but you should be able to find the forum(s) on google - most of the video files were rapidshare downloads - plenty of weird styles - Emei Pan Gong was a good one I remember.

  • wow great job i love the vid

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