Dumb-o-crap Jim McDermott was sued for leaking an illegally taped phone call to the media, Not the wire tap itself. Douchbag Democraps, your all a bunch of tax dodging law breaking nut-sacks with so much to hide that a wire tap scares the $4!7 out of you.
300 million people in the USA and you think that the FBI wants to listen in about your hemrhoids; if your being tapped your probably F^(kin up and if your afraid of being tapped your probably planning to F^(k up.
what about all these democrats who were so strongly opposed to the Patriot Act (and rightfully so) but guess who just renewed the patriot act, oh the democrats who were SO strongly opposed to it when Bush did but its okay when its THEIR power fuck ANYONE who violates the Constitution which is what all these idiots are doing right now but you don't hear shit about that from the media, wake up learn what's really going on in washington
@xtremewave Actually, you're wrong. Democrats wanted to extend certain provisions in it, but particularly wanted to attend to the privacy issues. Republicans blocked that part of it, which essentially gave them nearly the same rights to spy on us willy-nilly that Bush gave them the right to do.
So, please put blame where blame is due. Republicans. Ciao!
The GOP is hypocritical? say it aint so. How 'bout pointing out the hypocracy of the left's crocodile tears over "the poor" suddenly runing dry when said poor are white people in "flyover country"?
ITS CALLED KARMA, the stupid poor inbreds in "fly over country" voted for Bush who has ruined the economy. Now that they are feeling the pain of their stupidity why should they get sympathy for what they did? Thats why nobody is going to shed a tear for those bastards, they caused this whole mess.
The economy has been largely ruined by the clinton administration, who forced lenders to adopt idiotic affirmative-action policies. You can't just blame the current president for everything. The current crisis is a direct result of Clinton. Oh, and you're an asshole. People are people, no matter what they may have done. You're a dick, and I dislike you, but I'd feel bad for you if something horrible happened.
clinton payed down the national debt and left us with a budget surplus. bush added 4 trillion to the national debt and left us with a deficit. you sre entitled to your own delusional opinions, but stats are universal.
Clinton messed up the economy? LOL. Derregulation in large part of the Bush Administration to do NOTHING for these Banks to keep and keep lending loans to people they KNEW couldn't qualify for. Community Reinvestement Act is one thing predatory loaning is the other.
What I don't get is what people mean by "predatory loaning". The banks would have to be intentionally disadvantaging people while making themselves better off, right? Well, um, who-is-it-right-now-that-is-in-the-biggest-trouble-oh-that's-right-the-BANKS.
Predatory loaning are made from Mortgage Brokers, who work entirely on commission. They could care less if Banks get paid their interest back or not, since the banks put these house loans in securities and sell it to incompetant investors.
this whole mess was started in the middle of bush being president, but nope it was directly clinton's fault 7 year after bush became president. hm tell me do you also think that bananas are red? if the recession happened right after bush took office then yeah it is clintion's fault, but 7 years? you might as well blame lincoln because it makes no sence
We should acknowledge that there is a difference in the two cases. One involves the govt in its official capacity as protector of citizens and the other involves what sounds like a private individual pulling some Watergate shit. Still, the quote you gave was very telling.
Wire tapping deals with tapping the phones of people OUTSIDE the US who want to do us harm who are calling INTO the US- not wiretapping US citizens. Of course, as far as democRATs are concerned, terrorists are just as good as, and usually better than US citizens and should be afforded MORE rights than an American. Hey- can I be an "undocumented lover" and rape your wife when you're not home?? Oh- I'll want amnesty afterwards. And free healthcare for the crabs your skank will give me.
Boener Is My Great Congressman.He Gave His Proceeds To Charity Dimwit.Just To Make A Point.Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder That Can Only Be Cured By GOD
lol whatever. Liberalism is what made this country. Boener is a moron. Think what you want, there aren't any true conservatives in this country unless you include Ron Paul. The reason you believe God can conquer liberalism is because you still believe in that bullshit religion that is just another form of supersticious nonsense.
Liberalism did nothing for this country but screw it up. Name one thing that it has done. Also, God isn't superstition. God is obvious, and right before your eyes. If God doesn't exist, how did the world come into being?
When do you live? Unions have become a disaster, where no-one can be fired, even the ones who should be, and productivity is practically a myth. Also, welfare for the poor has caused many to stop working, and simply live off the government, instead of getting a job. Most everything that has come out of liberalism has now been royally screwed up.
Such a small percentage of people live on Welfare, and when they do, they live poorly. Social secuirity is just one of the many things "Liberalism" has created.
No, no it is not. This is America. Our poorest live like the richest in other countries, with giant tvs, cable, internet, food, water, a/c, the works. Everyone who I have known who has been on welfare lived thus.
Where do you live? Beverly Hills? I lived on Wellfare for about 5 months after college when I was looking for a job. I didn't have a TV, I didn't have internet, I could barely afford the necessities.
I assure you sir, our poorest do not live as well as the richest in other nations.
a liberal president freed the slaves. and you cant use the world as proof for god, because i can just as easily say if the big bang didnt happen then how did the world come into being, see its not good evidence, find something else
Do you mean Lincoln? Because he was Whig, Republican, and then National Union Party, all at least somewhat conservative. The Democratic Party originated as a southern party, and supported slavery. That's some pretty serious revisionism you're doing there.
Deliberate distortion. (why am I not surprised?) Releasing somebody's private conversation that you wire-tapped is NOT the same as having your phone company turn over foreign phone numbers you may have called to the government, so it can help them to target potential terrorists. COMPLETELY different.
I agree that there is a difference, but I cannot believe that this administration uses this wire-tapping just for counter- terrorist activities. Based upon their history, I cannot believe anything this admin. says. This guy that sued sets the bench mark. If you are being wire-tapped and you have no ties to any terrorist group, whether extended family or nationality or gender or age, you should be able to sue and win. This whole republican thing is foolish to me.
Thank you for at least conceding my point. I'm so tired of all this BS against Republicans. It's getting to be like the Jews in early Nazi Germany...blame everything on Republicans. Where is the intellectual honesty, and reasoned discourse?? I'm really sick of all the emotionally-charged, mindless demogougery. Yes, the Republicans, under Bush, have not done a good job articuating the reasoning behind some of their actions, but much of it is good. (not just "well intentioned").
Last time I Checked, the only person who has done me harm is the guy down the street. But, I'll keep an eye open for the big bad terrorists in the meantime ;)
McCarthyism is largely overblown. It wasn't nearly as bad as a lot of people say it was, and the actual cause of looking for communist traitors was legitimate, as it is now known that we had been infiltrated by the Soviets.
Society in the 50s was based on Fear, fear that Communism was going to take over the world. To say that McCarthyism is largely overblown is a false statement.
I put the blame of politicians, that covers the whole gambit. As far as the good they have done, would have to say for whom. From 9/11, to Katrina, to free trade, to oil prices, etc. Whatever good this administration has done, it pales in comparison to what it has not done. This admin. has been very good to those who are wealthy. This is not a blanker statement to all repubs. There is so much hyprocracy with this admin. that they have turn me against repubs. in general politically speaking.
Yeah, if the program was regulated. Problem is that there isn't much oversight into who's phones are being tapped and for what reason. Again, agree that foreign comms should be monitered if they are going out to dangerous people, problem is who determines what lines are tapped and for what reason.
It is being regulated, YOU just don't know who by. And that's part of the way covert operations work. Also, the most notable case of wiretapping, outed by the New York Times, was tapping of phone numbers found in the cellphone of a known terrorist, believed to be largely involved in the architecture(sp?) of 9/11.
No more "yea", but people who don't vote for either republicans or democrats are either not voting or wasting their votes on candidates that have 0% chance of winning any election. These self righteous types who think they're bad-asses need to quit wasting their time on the Ralph Nader's of the world and instead focus on publicly funded elections.
Why? Democracy is not only about the two corporate powerhouses known as the Democrats and Republicans. I remember the subtle bullying used by some Gore people in 2000 asking Nader to drop out for the 'greater good', yet it was those corrupt GOP members down in Florida who really screwed him.
Publicly funded elections, not more parties who get nowhere, are the only way to really change anything. Period. Take most of the financial influence out of it and you eliminate much of the core problem with both parties.
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ZerOwAffLeS 7 months ago
Dumb-o-crap Jim McDermott was sued for leaking an illegally taped phone call to the media, Not the wire tap itself. Douchbag Democraps, your all a bunch of tax dodging law breaking nut-sacks with so much to hide that a wire tap scares the $4!7 out of you.
300 million people in the USA and you think that the FBI wants to listen in about your hemrhoids; if your being tapped your probably F^(kin up and if your afraid of being tapped your probably planning to F^(k up.
Hypocricy of DUMB-O'CRAPPS
Ufkngmoron 1 year ago
@Ufkngmoron shh dont bitch, only democrats can bitch about stuff and blame other people. republicans are above that ;)
Darkror 10 months ago
what about all these democrats who were so strongly opposed to the Patriot Act (and rightfully so) but guess who just renewed the patriot act, oh the democrats who were SO strongly opposed to it when Bush did but its okay when its THEIR power fuck ANYONE who violates the Constitution which is what all these idiots are doing right now but you don't hear shit about that from the media, wake up learn what's really going on in washington
xtremewave 1 year ago
@xtremewave Actually, you're wrong. Democrats wanted to extend certain provisions in it, but particularly wanted to attend to the privacy issues. Republicans blocked that part of it, which essentially gave them nearly the same rights to spy on us willy-nilly that Bush gave them the right to do.
So, please put blame where blame is due. Republicans. Ciao!
demmmmm1 1 year ago
their is a deference in locking you door and going out killing peaple who look like they might steal
caseycaldwell2008 3 years ago
come on, all smart people know "suntan" johnny is a fuckin' full of shit cocksucker!!!
MojoJuana 3 years ago
The GOP is hypocritical? say it aint so. How 'bout pointing out the hypocracy of the left's crocodile tears over "the poor" suddenly runing dry when said poor are white people in "flyover country"?
lakeviewviking 3 years ago
ITS CALLED KARMA, the stupid poor inbreds in "fly over country" voted for Bush who has ruined the economy. Now that they are feeling the pain of their stupidity why should they get sympathy for what they did? Thats why nobody is going to shed a tear for those bastards, they caused this whole mess.
Ashwento 3 years ago 4
The economy has been largely ruined by the clinton administration, who forced lenders to adopt idiotic affirmative-action policies. You can't just blame the current president for everything. The current crisis is a direct result of Clinton. Oh, and you're an asshole. People are people, no matter what they may have done. You're a dick, and I dislike you, but I'd feel bad for you if something horrible happened.
Ungeniusman 3 years ago
bottom line
clinton payed down the national debt and left us with a budget surplus. bush added 4 trillion to the national debt and left us with a deficit. you sre entitled to your own delusional opinions, but stats are universal.
Ashwento 3 years ago 2
Clinton messed up the economy? LOL. Derregulation in large part of the Bush Administration to do NOTHING for these Banks to keep and keep lending loans to people they KNEW couldn't qualify for. Community Reinvestement Act is one thing predatory loaning is the other.
stuntmasta305 3 years ago 2
What I don't get is what people mean by "predatory loaning". The banks would have to be intentionally disadvantaging people while making themselves better off, right? Well, um, who-is-it-right-now-that-is-in-the-biggest-trouble-oh-that's-right-the-BANKS.
Ungeniusman 2 years ago
Predatory loaning are made from Mortgage Brokers, who work entirely on commission. They could care less if Banks get paid their interest back or not, since the banks put these house loans in securities and sell it to incompetant investors.
stuntmasta305 2 years ago
this whole mess was started in the middle of bush being president, but nope it was directly clinton's fault 7 year after bush became president. hm tell me do you also think that bananas are red? if the recession happened right after bush took office then yeah it is clintion's fault, but 7 years? you might as well blame lincoln because it makes no sence
thinin1234 2 years ago
@Ashwento haha obama ruined it more than bushed when you tripped him and then blames him
mcgge7 9 months ago
We should acknowledge that there is a difference in the two cases. One involves the govt in its official capacity as protector of citizens and the other involves what sounds like a private individual pulling some Watergate shit. Still, the quote you gave was very telling.
eirefrance 3 years ago
Wire tapping deals with tapping the phones of people OUTSIDE the US who want to do us harm who are calling INTO the US- not wiretapping US citizens. Of course, as far as democRATs are concerned, terrorists are just as good as, and usually better than US citizens and should be afforded MORE rights than an American. Hey- can I be an "undocumented lover" and rape your wife when you're not home?? Oh- I'll want amnesty afterwards. And free healthcare for the crabs your skank will give me.
Pigprophet 3 years ago 2
Boener Is My Great Congressman.He Gave His Proceeds To Charity Dimwit.Just To Make A Point.Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder That Can Only Be Cured By GOD
onetrickpony420 3 years ago
lol whatever. Liberalism is what made this country. Boener is a moron. Think what you want, there aren't any true conservatives in this country unless you include Ron Paul. The reason you believe God can conquer liberalism is because you still believe in that bullshit religion that is just another form of supersticious nonsense.
daotien26 3 years ago 2
Liberalism did nothing for this country but screw it up. Name one thing that it has done. Also, God isn't superstition. God is obvious, and right before your eyes. If God doesn't exist, how did the world come into being?
Ungeniusman 3 years ago
Unions ? Welfare for the poor? Do you live in the Gilded age?
stuntmasta305 3 years ago
When do you live? Unions have become a disaster, where no-one can be fired, even the ones who should be, and productivity is practically a myth. Also, welfare for the poor has caused many to stop working, and simply live off the government, instead of getting a job. Most everything that has come out of liberalism has now been royally screwed up.
Ungeniusman 3 years ago
Such a small percentage of people live on Welfare, and when they do, they live poorly. Social secuirity is just one of the many things "Liberalism" has created.
stuntmasta305 3 years ago
Do you think people actually enjoy being on welfare? A welfare life style is shitty.
You are an idiot.
kklol7 2 years ago
No, no it is not. This is America. Our poorest live like the richest in other countries, with giant tvs, cable, internet, food, water, a/c, the works. Everyone who I have known who has been on welfare lived thus.
Ungeniusman 2 years ago
Where do you live? Beverly Hills? I lived on Wellfare for about 5 months after college when I was looking for a job. I didn't have a TV, I didn't have internet, I could barely afford the necessities.
I assure you sir, our poorest do not live as well as the richest in other nations.
kklol7 2 years ago
a liberal president freed the slaves. and you cant use the world as proof for god, because i can just as easily say if the big bang didnt happen then how did the world come into being, see its not good evidence, find something else
thinin1234 2 years ago
Do you mean Lincoln? Because he was Whig, Republican, and then National Union Party, all at least somewhat conservative. The Democratic Party originated as a southern party, and supported slavery. That's some pretty serious revisionism you're doing there.
Ungeniusman 2 years ago
republicans back then was liberal
thinin1234 2 years ago
you can find more bullshit from the republican party than you could at a texas cattle ranch........unless that ranch is located in crawford ,texas.
hellshade2 3 years ago 4
Deliberate distortion. (why am I not surprised?) Releasing somebody's private conversation that you wire-tapped is NOT the same as having your phone company turn over foreign phone numbers you may have called to the government, so it can help them to target potential terrorists. COMPLETELY different.
garymull2 3 years ago
I agree that there is a difference, but I cannot believe that this administration uses this wire-tapping just for counter- terrorist activities. Based upon their history, I cannot believe anything this admin. says. This guy that sued sets the bench mark. If you are being wire-tapped and you have no ties to any terrorist group, whether extended family or nationality or gender or age, you should be able to sue and win. This whole republican thing is foolish to me.
nugen966 3 years ago
Thank you for at least conceding my point. I'm so tired of all this BS against Republicans. It's getting to be like the Jews in early Nazi Germany...blame everything on Republicans. Where is the intellectual honesty, and reasoned discourse?? I'm really sick of all the emotionally-charged, mindless demogougery. Yes, the Republicans, under Bush, have not done a good job articuating the reasoning behind some of their actions, but much of it is good. (not just "well intentioned").
garymull2 3 years ago
Of course they haven't, the incompetence of this administration is stunning. The phobia of terrorist attacking this country is also phenomenal.
stuntmasta305 3 years ago 2
Wanting to protect the country from terrorists is a PHOBIA?? Do you leave your doors unlocked? No? Maybe you are burgler-phobic? LOL
garymull2 3 years ago
Last time I Checked, the only person who has done me harm is the guy down the street. But, I'll keep an eye open for the big bad terrorists in the meantime ;)
daotien26 3 years ago
Before you reply back, look up McCarthyism. The U.S is not perfect.
stuntmasta305 3 years ago 2
McCarthyism is largely overblown. It wasn't nearly as bad as a lot of people say it was, and the actual cause of looking for communist traitors was legitimate, as it is now known that we had been infiltrated by the Soviets.
Ungeniusman 3 years ago
It is a hallmark for American History during the 1950s. It also brings uneithical fear in the population.
stuntmasta305 3 years ago
Wait, what?
Ungeniusman 3 years ago
Society in the 50s was based on Fear, fear that Communism was going to take over the world. To say that McCarthyism is largely overblown is a false statement.
stuntmasta305 3 years ago
I put the blame of politicians, that covers the whole gambit. As far as the good they have done, would have to say for whom. From 9/11, to Katrina, to free trade, to oil prices, etc. Whatever good this administration has done, it pales in comparison to what it has not done. This admin. has been very good to those who are wealthy. This is not a blanker statement to all repubs. There is so much hyprocracy with this admin. that they have turn me against repubs. in general politically speaking.
nugen966 3 years ago
Yeah, if the program was regulated. Problem is that there isn't much oversight into who's phones are being tapped and for what reason. Again, agree that foreign comms should be monitered if they are going out to dangerous people, problem is who determines what lines are tapped and for what reason.
daotien26 3 years ago
It is being regulated, YOU just don't know who by. And that's part of the way covert operations work. Also, the most notable case of wiretapping, outed by the New York Times, was tapping of phone numbers found in the cellphone of a known terrorist, believed to be largely involved in the architecture(sp?) of 9/11.
Ungeniusman 3 years ago
No more "yea", but people who don't vote for either republicans or democrats are either not voting or wasting their votes on candidates that have 0% chance of winning any election. These self righteous types who think they're bad-asses need to quit wasting their time on the Ralph Nader's of the world and instead focus on publicly funded elections.
Encyclopeteia 3 years ago
Why? Democracy is not only about the two corporate powerhouses known as the Democrats and Republicans. I remember the subtle bullying used by some Gore people in 2000 asking Nader to drop out for the 'greater good', yet it was those corrupt GOP members down in Florida who really screwed him.
colster4life 3 years ago
Publicly funded elections, not more parties who get nowhere, are the only way to really change anything. Period. Take most of the financial influence out of it and you eliminate much of the core problem with both parties.
Encyclopeteia 3 years ago
Third Yea!!!
People who would only vote either Democrat or Republican are sooooo stupid I can't believe them
pwg357 3 years ago 2
Its fools like stevewode that keep the Republican Party in existence
flrbase1 3 years ago
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Second Yea!!!
Democrats are so stupid I can't believe them
stevewode 3 years ago
First Yea!!!
Republicans are so stupid I can't belive them
EMac813 3 years ago 3