For your first two questions, i have to rewatch the movie. She wanted him to kill her because when she lost her wings, she became human. Thats the rule. When she is human she can be killed. If she is killed, she goes to heaven and becomes an angel again. But she can't kill her self because that is sin. So that is why she wants him to do it.
@Liquefaction Thank you! Did you like the movie? I did watch this entire scene, and I couldn't understand the logic of Gabriel being accepted back in Heaven immediately after the revoke of his/her status as an angel. It looked to me as though s/he needs to redeem him/herself on Earth first, and tempting Reeves to kill her/him seems counter-productive to that goal. wtf was the motive to go back into the pool, if it's not speculated that s/he committed suicide there?
Ya loved the movie. My take on her tempting Reeves was she has always been taunting him trying to mess with him. As for going back into the pool, she's human woman now. Maybe it's implied she just wants to chill out for a while in a pool. She DID just lose her angel wings after all. She definitely didn't commit suicide.
I had to watch this with subtitles in a hotel room with no sound and I couldn't tell wether or not gabriel was a man or woman (wasn't famaliar with Tilda). Very good actress
When Gabriel got his/her wings ripped off... turned into a female human, just check, in earlier scenes Gabriel was flat chested, but in this video at 0:48 she's got breasts.
@MariaFerg, well Christopher Walken ended up playing the trumpet for small change on street corners but Tilda... I think she'd go for the saxophone AT LEAST!
she rocked as gabriel! it was cool because i didn't know who she was and kept thinking that looks like a woman. lol. and angels are thought of as being kinda feminine. not all manly and steroid looking men. i think she was perfect! and i loved her voice. it was great for this role.
The point of the scene is about Constantine, not Gabriel. He is not even 5 minutes into his new life and he is faces with a test, like all of us. He chooses to lead a better life. No matter how she dies, shell have to face God no matter what. She knows how hell is and she really upset both Satan and God. But she's not stupid. She won't want hell. So as a human now, she can experience forgiveness and repent, along with pain. That's the best part of that scene. Lol
People,you have to look at the truest part of Gabriel,TOUGH LOVE.Saying to shoot her wasn't her trying to commit suicide by his hand,but to prove a point.Like she said in the movie,it's unfare that humans unlike angels can take plenty of time,repent,and are just forgiven,THUS,Gabriel creates a horrid existence in a save environment,giving humans the chance to rise above it all with the love of God,then,Gabriel will feel more as God does that they deserve his love and salvation.Open up and watch.
@NonComedian It's a good point of view, I admit it. But I still feel like it was kind of a win win scenario for Gabriel, because if Constantine killed her she would be spared the lousy existence as the thing she hates the most and, if he didn't, she could say: "I told you so. You see, I was right all along!". I think her punishment was just ideal.
@CJMStarlight1992 Hm. I don't see how either side is a win for Gabriel here. She still goes to hell, and is still no longer God's right hand. John punching her isn't the ultimate retribution, it's his chance to be less selfish.
I never knew angels would be so sly as to try and sneak back into heaven by provoking someone to kill them lol.. there should be some kind of clause to prevent that haha
bull, that's as if killing my parents and everone else than giving me a loaded gun t exact my revenge. If it's your intent to die like that...basically giving yourself over like that...then it's suicide
IDK, anymore...I mean, if you do something lke that with the intention of dying, that's like suicide to me. If it has the intention of your death behind it-just you-then it's suicide to me. Causing your own death is...
So, Gabriel cutting a deal with the Son of the Devil in order to teach mankind a lesson and make them worthy of God's sweet, sweet love does sound more then just a bit insane and definitely seems the perfect reason to take gabrile's wings away and plunge gabriel deep into the depth of humanity in order to teach gabriel a lesson in humility.
because he/she is now a fallen angel ... because of the things he/she did .. well in this case she because its tilda swinton in real life LOL but gabriel became a normal human being hehehe
This still doesn't explain why she went back into the pool. Probably to wash off all that soot from her burnt wings, or rinse out the blood that's filling in her mouth, after John punched her jaw.
I love how she played it when she got punched. It actually takes Gabriel a minute to realize that pain hurts. Nobody could've played Gabriel better than Tilda. She's simply fantastic!
That's almost comic scene. An almost perfect being, do a bad choice, becomes a human, wants to die and is knocked by a man. A person who has not all the knoledge of that being, and lives with doubt goes to hell just because has taken a bad choice. That's strange for me.
BTW: I think it should be said, that this whole concept is theologically impossible. 1. Angels that did not fall during the first battle of the Fallen and Michael's legions chose God's will on an infinite level. They were given such knowledge as to NEVER go against his will again. Its impossible, they were given the grace to know that they would never fall from his grace, and this movie goes against that. Great movie, just a fun fact for all other Catholics out there who think this is odd. :)
Actually, she technically 'fell' from God's grace, and she wasn't trying to kill Lucifer's unborn son, she was trying to free him, otherwise the plot and her character wouldn't make sense. Her speech pretty much tells all.
me too... I thought they made her a girl, but I thought they were showing the "genderless" aspect by making her wear guys cloths, and cutting her hair... she never did really look like a girl through this movie.
Angels are mostly male in the Bible.Some angels even have kids with normal women, but God didn't like it, and told them not to do it. The children are called Nephillim, I think. Gabriel doubtless is male. But everyone has their own idea of what heaven or angels are like, so the movie is as correct as anything, I guess.
I am sorry to break it to you, but Angels have never bred with humans. Any Angel that disobeyed God or did anything he disliked were cast into Hell at the Great Battle where Satan fell. Furthermore, Nephilim are not Angel/Human offspring, rather another name for fallen angels. I am not sure where you learned this, but it is not correct in any Christian society.
And the sons of God saw the daughters of Adam, that they were beautiful. And the daughters of man bore sons unto them, the same that were giants and men of renown. These were the Nephillim.
Now, please tell me what chapter and verse of the Bible you are talking about. I certainly didn't write Genesi, God did. I am only quoting the Bible.
Alright, we are both partly wrong. I looked it up. The Bible quote you cite means (if you read the footnotes) "The writer... may be using an old story or myth to point out the progressive degradation of mankind before the flood and to warn against the evil effects of intermarriage either of the descendants of Seth wtih teh Kenites or mor probably the Israelites with the native populations of Canaan." --- *continued*
It is pretty clear that it is nothing to do with intermarriage. Its easy to try to rewrite the Bible and take out the ugly stuff, but that is dishonest. There is no reason that they would phrase specificaly "the sons of God" took "the daughters of Man". The teaching would be just as against a male Israeli knocking up a female Philistine. Angels in the Bible are male. Michael, Uriel etc.
Then why say the "sons of God" shouldn't touch the "daughters of man"? Why not say the people of God should not intermarry with the people of Man? Angels are male in the Bible. Most of the Bible is based on older stories, that doesn't undermine anything.
Didn't we already discuss this via Youtube E-message? I am done arguing, I sincerely don't have time to argue a point with someone who has made up their mind no matter what I say. I gave you my reasoning, my Theological instructor and my bible say differently than you. That is all. You may be right, I don't know for sure, but I am going to formulate my opinion based on MY Catholic Bible and MY Theology instructor, not some person I don't know on youtube. Thankyou / have a nice day.
*continued*--- Furthermore, another reason it gives for this might be that they were simply beings considered "divine" one Theologians view was that they were Demons (where I must have gotten the idea that Nephillim were Fallen Angels) and also, this would account for why it made the races of Mankind so wicked as it is saying, for this is the chapter that explains "The Wickedness of Mankind" before the great flood.
The Book of Jasher says... Oh that's right; the ones who came before you didn't like it, found that it inconveniently hampered their fairy tale, and removed it.
God wrote it eh? Did he pen it down on some lined paper and leave it around for someone to put in the front of the bible? Bullshit God "Wrote it" some random wrote it down & a bunch of other randoms got together & complied an entertaining book to influence others into one common order. All religion is the same - it's like a novel, all & all good - but i wouldn't read much into it.
Well if you consider that most of the people that say the bible is full of horseshit, generally tend to believe other sorts of horseshit for alot less noble reasons, You would realise the only reason people like yourself say that is because you need or want fucking attention because you are pretty empty inside as a human being.
ummm...ok...i am not 'empty inside' and just because i recognize your retarded religion for the horseshit it is doesn't mean i believe in other horseshit...all organized religions are ridiculous horseshit...do you also believe in santa and the toothfairy? do you really believe there is a big daddy in the sky who looks like santa that watches you masturbate with a look of disapproval on his face? do you think the way christians have murdered those of other faiths over the years is noble?
First off you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes morality or how it relates to faith, and please spare me your nonsense of where you think you get a superior prespective. You are no mystery and neither is your cliche tired knee jerk arguements.
The only thing truly more horseshit then any faith you mentioned is your blind arrogance.
I really don't give a fuck what you think jesus would approve of, because if the bible is bullshit well then according to you their is no sense or reason to act anyway. If I don't need God or any Fairytale bullshit then I certainly wouldn't need your twisted ideas of what right and wrong is. You are a typical backwards thinking atheist who believe their thoughts or notions are brand new, they aren't, and you are an idiot.
ummm yeah...whatever you say...none of that even made any sense...just a bunch of blather like the bible...guess you just can't argue with an idiot cuz they'll always come back with more nonsense bullshit trying to prove they are right...well, have fun living your life trying to please imaginary beings...your loss...
If it is horseshit then why are you carrying this argument on. In my opinion you are not an athiest only some idiot who is trying to draw attention to yourself
then what does that make you? i don't believe anyone was talking to you and here you are 'drawing attention to yourself'...
and the fact that i am 'carrying this argument on' in no way changes the fact that the bible is indeed a pile of steaming horseshit...
instead of blindly believing ridiculous horseshit, try doing some research on astrology as it relates to the bible and you will see that your religion is a lame copy of the astrologically based religion of the ancient egyptians...
In that case all religion (including yours) are only copies of older religions. For example, why is christmas on December 25 when jesus was not born anywhere near that date? But you have your opinion and i have my own. Let's leave it at that. I never denounced your religion. So why denounce mine? Think to yourself, What would Karl Marx do? lol
i do not belong to any religion because they are all ridiculous...i live according to logic and common sense...that does not make me heartless or make my life empty, it only makes me sane and rational...you admit yourself that it makes no sense so why are you living your life by it? don't you see that it is crazy and pointless?
keep telling yourself that maybe one day you will actually believe it...its pretty obvious your ranting to prove to yourself your right because none of us care what you believe or don't believe
oh, and i can explain the origins of christmas being on december 25th...the sun 'dies on the cross' of the zodiac (stops moving across the sky) on the 23rd of every year on the winter solstice (shortest day of the year) and is 'reborn' (starts moving back the other direction) on the 25th...so the 'birth' of the 'sun' (or 'son', since you like jesus) is on the 25th of december...
this is also where the mysterious 'cross with a circle in the middle of it' comes from...
Why did she go back into the pool at the end? What are her intentions there?
Also, why did she want Reeves to kill her, explain?
TheMerrow3 1 month ago
@TheMerrow3
For your first two questions, i have to rewatch the movie. She wanted him to kill her because when she lost her wings, she became human. Thats the rule. When she is human she can be killed. If she is killed, she goes to heaven and becomes an angel again. But she can't kill her self because that is sin. So that is why she wants him to do it.
Liquefaction 2 weeks ago
@Liquefaction Thank you! Did you like the movie? I did watch this entire scene, and I couldn't understand the logic of Gabriel being accepted back in Heaven immediately after the revoke of his/her status as an angel. It looked to me as though s/he needs to redeem him/herself on Earth first, and tempting Reeves to kill her/him seems counter-productive to that goal. wtf was the motive to go back into the pool, if it's not speculated that s/he committed suicide there?
TheMerrow3 2 weeks ago
@TheMerrow3
Ya loved the movie. My take on her tempting Reeves was she has always been taunting him trying to mess with him. As for going back into the pool, she's human woman now. Maybe it's implied she just wants to chill out for a while in a pool. She DID just lose her angel wings after all. She definitely didn't commit suicide.
Liquefaction 2 weeks ago
Does she drown herself at the end of this clip?
Jtsolario 1 month ago
Tilda Swinton is very hot at Young Adam (Movie)
JamesDurbin09 2 months ago
I had to watch this with subtitles in a hotel room with no sound and I couldn't tell wether or not gabriel was a man or woman (wasn't famaliar with Tilda). Very good actress
RibbonedRat 4 months ago
When Gabriel got his/her wings ripped off... turned into a female human, just check, in earlier scenes Gabriel was flat chested, but in this video at 0:48 she's got breasts.
ImpmonX 4 months ago
So... if Gabriel's wings are clipped or burned does that mean he's a fallen angel?
GalaxyMagician 4 months ago
i use to dress this way
white sleeveless shirt and tight camel color trousers
Tilda looked gorgeous in that dress
zafarafridi 5 months ago
yeah, she won an oscar for her role in Michael Clayton. Wow, she's good.
bobbycratchit 6 months ago
I'd show her the joy of an orgasm
capnhands 7 months ago
Christopher Walken was great as well
webstar12712 7 months ago
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FILIPMARK10 7 months ago
Gabriel's wings :(
JoHeartsArt 9 months ago 2
i haven't seen this movie. how come tilda turns into a human?
missineichen 10 months ago
@missineichen when an angels wings are taken they turn into a human.
124mando 3 weeks ago
TILDA YOU RE SO PERFECT!!!
eleonora1730 1 year ago
@eleonora1730 im going to say the same thing
JamesDurbin09 5 months ago
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So sexy on those "angel" pants!
apacheangel007 1 year ago
@apacheangel007 I agree
JamesDurbin09 5 months ago
I wonder were would Gabriel go, and what would do after having been transformed into a human.
MariaFerg 1 year ago
@MariaFerg, well Christopher Walken ended up playing the trumpet for small change on street corners but Tilda... I think she'd go for the saxophone AT LEAST!
ianmorgan70 9 months ago
0:56 again and again and again - her expression of that pain is hilarious!
zjir18 1 year ago
It must be hard to find a job...after having your wings removed.
I can only laugh at the thought of that interview at wal mart...
"Uh...last ocupation?"
"Angel sir... :3"
"RIGHT...uh...we'll call you"
thehornypuppy 1 year ago 18
i guess he/she thought that suicide was a second option.
TheSuirad 1 year ago
she rocked as gabriel! it was cool because i didn't know who she was and kept thinking that looks like a woman. lol. and angels are thought of as being kinda feminine. not all manly and steroid looking men. i think she was perfect! and i loved her voice. it was great for this role.
indibabs122275 1 year ago 5
The point of the scene is about Constantine, not Gabriel. He is not even 5 minutes into his new life and he is faces with a test, like all of us. He chooses to lead a better life. No matter how she dies, shell have to face God no matter what. She knows how hell is and she really upset both Satan and God. But she's not stupid. She won't want hell. So as a human now, she can experience forgiveness and repent, along with pain. That's the best part of that scene. Lol
gpfelix07 1 year ago
...Janitor is going to have one HELL of a double take once he sees what they did to that room.
Momentum139 1 year ago 16
@Momentum139 agreed hahahahaha
trebekalex 1 year ago
@Momentum139 now that is a funny comment! lmfao!
indibabs122275 1 year ago
@Momentum139 hahaha i read that and i thought i wasnt goona laugh, the next second i laughed, good one hahaha
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she was the best thing about Constantine. period.
kristicuk 1 year ago
Check out this: Type : Lara Croft vs. The Doppelganger - Confrontation
kyhubiatch 1 year ago
he/she/it silently says 'wow' at 1:11, so funny. Her first experience of the flu is gonna be terrific.
07751434 1 year ago
sooo, now that he's human, does that mean he has a gender now?
orenji196 1 year ago
People,you have to look at the truest part of Gabriel,TOUGH LOVE.Saying to shoot her wasn't her trying to commit suicide by his hand,but to prove a point.Like she said in the movie,it's unfare that humans unlike angels can take plenty of time,repent,and are just forgiven,THUS,Gabriel creates a horrid existence in a save environment,giving humans the chance to rise above it all with the love of God,then,Gabriel will feel more as God does that they deserve his love and salvation.Open up and watch.
NonComedian 1 year ago 3
@NonComedian It's a good point of view, I admit it. But I still feel like it was kind of a win win scenario for Gabriel, because if Constantine killed her she would be spared the lousy existence as the thing she hates the most and, if he didn't, she could say: "I told you so. You see, I was right all along!". I think her punishment was just ideal.
CJMStarlight1992 1 year ago 2
@CJMStarlight1992 Hm. I don't see how either side is a win for Gabriel here. She still goes to hell, and is still no longer God's right hand. John punching her isn't the ultimate retribution, it's his chance to be less selfish.
landonsoccer12 1 year ago
its called pain... get used to it!
Mikeybetts 1 year ago 4
lol, owned.
"Look how well you're doing!" *holds jaw again*
OptiMystic8 1 year ago 3
Did he/she drown herself in the water?
t260y 2 years ago
wondering the same thing
Meda01 2 years ago
@t260y
i think so, to make sure she didn't go back to heaven, she killed herself
Mikeybetts 1 year ago
@t260y
Hell, if I were Gabe, just recently became human and felt physical feelings for the FIRST time, I too would love a SWIM! XD
PsychoNekoSan 1 year ago
Yea- Gab knew what she was doing. Rather die than live this life full of pain and hurt and agony and suffering.
I mean, compared to an Angels existance- death would have been the easy way out
AtlantaITGirl 2 years ago
BEST SCENE IN THE FILM :D:D:D:D:D
Darkzamurai1311 2 years ago
Gabriel is WEIRD.
zprodigy 2 years ago
She knew she could get him with this
HiveMistress 2 years ago
I never knew angels would be so sly as to try and sneak back into heaven by provoking someone to kill them lol.. there should be some kind of clause to prevent that haha
ChiaChai26 2 years ago 4
wouldn't it be concidered suicide?
t260y 2 years ago
prolly not, if I egged you on to kill me it wouldn't be suicide even though i induced you, i'd have to physically do harm to myself with my own hands
ChiaChai26 2 years ago
bull, that's as if killing my parents and everone else than giving me a loaded gun t exact my revenge. If it's your intent to die like that...basically giving yourself over like that...then it's suicide
t260y 2 years ago
ehh.. but suicide is when you kill yourself, sending yourself out on some kind of mission that will likely end in your death isn't suicide.
Shooting yourself in the head = suicide
Busting some caps for revenge and dying in the process ≠ suicide
Gabriel tried get on his nerves to get him to kill her cuz he's impulsive like that in the movie. She didn't pull the trigger on her self.
If you talk shit to a psychopath and get killed in the process, u didnt commit suicide.
ChiaChai26 2 years ago
IDK, anymore...I mean, if you do something lke that with the intention of dying, that's like suicide to me. If it has the intention of your death behind it-just you-then it's suicide to me. Causing your own death is...
t260y 2 years ago
She went back into the pool for comic relief. Stop being dense.
stopcicles 2 years ago 4
the original idea was to show gabriel drowning herself rather than be human but this was decided against
thesteve120 2 years ago
I love when she says 'Look how well you're doing...' just makes me laugh.. :P
PencyRhaine 2 years ago 4
Supposedly Seraphs are
The Highest of the Servants of God
So, Gabriel cutting a deal with the Son of the Devil in order to teach mankind a lesson and make them worthy of God's sweet, sweet love does sound more then just a bit insane and definitely seems the perfect reason to take gabrile's wings away and plunge gabriel deep into the depth of humanity in order to teach gabriel a lesson in humility.
multifacetedmage 2 years ago 4
she has a really nice arse.
chimodawg 2 years ago 3
I noticed that too, lmao.
MentalMaladies 2 years ago
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I think Gabriel went back into the pool not because the character had a reason to, but because its a horrible movie and that wasn't thought about.
xqilakx 2 years ago
There's always a reason
HiveMistress 2 years ago
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lord jesus will save and rule world
bass109 2 years ago
i think she went back into the pool maybe to wash off cuz like Captbigbeard said she probs wont commit sucide cuz sucide is 100% hell worthy
oOxXxMeGaNxXxOo 2 years ago
I dont think she went back into the pool, i think she fainted, pain really does hurt the first time you feel it lol
legandarymasterrevan 2 years ago
She floats up from the pool and starts feeling for her wings.
Sambucacat 2 years ago
I wonder what face she would make, when she takes her first shit, has her first flu, her first cold.. First toe stub those things suck.
Sambucacat 2 years ago 6
hahahaha
basicmadman 2 years ago
you know madman, It wouldn't be ironic for her first flu to be the SWINE FLU yikes!
Sambucacat 2 years ago
@Sambucacat
Swine Flu is not THAT bad...
PsychoNekoSan 1 year ago
Looks like Gabriel had a toothache, or was losing a tooth.
Sambucacat 2 years ago
He COULD have shot you Gabe... but that shit would have hurt more than that punch. lol
Tilda Swinton did an AMAZING job as Gabriel. I can't think of any one else who could have pulled it off.
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LeaheyHoo 2 years ago
why does gabriel go back into the pool for?? Can someone explain? I never really understood that when i watched the movie...
MMusic91 2 years ago
because he/she is now a fallen angel ... because of the things he/she did .. well in this case she because its tilda swinton in real life LOL but gabriel became a normal human being hehehe
adlp1ph 2 years ago 2
This still doesn't explain why she went back into the pool. Probably to wash off all that soot from her burnt wings, or rinse out the blood that's filling in her mouth, after John punched her jaw.
Sambucacat 2 years ago
I think she comitted suicide. that's why she went back into the pool.
kristicuk 2 years ago
I think she just want into the pool to sulk.
She wouldn't commit suicide, thats why she wanted John to shoot her. Suicide = 100% of hell.
Captbigbeard 2 years ago 8
@Captbigbeard If she tells John to shoot her...that's assisted suicide.
PencyRhaine 2 years ago
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Captbigbeard 2 years ago
Does that = hell???
I think thats where it gets a bit fuzzy.
Captbigbeard 2 years ago
Hey all google Arthur Custance and read his free books!!
PhoenixTears25 3 years ago
dont u guys know that debating on religion is the most stupid thing to do
batuk23 3 years ago 6
Couldn't agree more. That and politics.
WrongReasonandRhyme 2 years ago 4
True, ppol should learn how to respect other's POV
killScissors 2 years ago
I love how she played it when she got punched. It actually takes Gabriel a minute to realize that pain hurts. Nobody could've played Gabriel better than Tilda. She's simply fantastic!
Gimonavid 3 years ago 95
Mind: What the hell was that!
Ego: I don't know!
Jaw: Hey fellas...
Damar148 3 years ago 95
@Damar148 ROFL!!!!!!
IsobellaAme 1 year ago
@Damar148 hmmm upgrades :P
thetopherhaslanded 1 year ago
@Gimonavid and crazy
Ko252 10 months ago
@Gimonavid hello she just had her wings ripped off i think that would be painful...
natmanprime 6 months ago
Lol, she goes back into the water like a monster from the deep. Heh, ain't got nowhere else to go, I guess xD PWNED!
SpazAlert004 3 years ago
Owned....
JcWongAndCompany 3 years ago
That's almost comic scene. An almost perfect being, do a bad choice, becomes a human, wants to die and is knocked by a man. A person who has not all the knoledge of that being, and lives with doubt goes to hell just because has taken a bad choice. That's strange for me.
kalelsant 3 years ago
It is interesting how Constantine called Gabriel a "half-breed" in Constantine - T. Swinton as Gabriel 1 of 3.
brianwesley28 3 years ago
"That's called 'Pain'. Get used to it."
ozzythekid1984 3 years ago 4
What happened to her wings?
PrinceCaspian58 3 years ago
Removed...
Few humans have wings.
gv1955 3 years ago
PrinceCaspian58. I'm not sure what happened to her wings, wither God or Satan burnt them off. But they were burnt off, making her a human.
Sambucacat 2 years ago
i think god was the one took away her wings but idk it seems satan was the one who whooped her
PRIDEFC17 2 years ago
I love the look on her face when she got punched
thegameslady 3 years ago 2
Hahaha, Gabriel now has to seek his salvation like the rest of us poor bums! XD
RedFlower26 3 years ago 2
Extreme Sin=Extreme Redemption.. NUFF SAID...
tain1313 3 years ago
I wonder whatever did happen to Gabriel?
SoCyurious 3 years ago
Damn, Reeves sure knows how to throw a punch, and Swinton dont no how to take one (lol at her face)
PWN3GE 3 years ago
BTW: I think it should be said, that this whole concept is theologically impossible. 1. Angels that did not fall during the first battle of the Fallen and Michael's legions chose God's will on an infinite level. They were given such knowledge as to NEVER go against his will again. Its impossible, they were given the grace to know that they would never fall from his grace, and this movie goes against that. Great movie, just a fun fact for all other Catholics out there who think this is odd. :)
AwesomlyRandom 3 years ago
its hollywood, they have to twist a few facts here and there sometimes
LightSpeed45 3 years ago
is religeon based on facts or belief??
GoodGraciousMee 3 years ago 3
You said that before.
lollipopfop 3 years ago
This scene makes the movie. Tilda Swinton looks and acts amazing here...best Angel ever.
Yecats17 3 years ago
what are those bands on her wrists?
MissingInReaction 3 years ago
just..bands
sugarrune 3 years ago
ahh... i see... hah
MissingInReaction 3 years ago
it was a joke^^
Don't know, looks like thos bands for patients.
sugarrune 3 years ago
wow that punched sounded painfull!!!
tessa0104 3 years ago
Tilda Swinton is the hottest thing on earth!!
stylesofbeyond 3 years ago 2
her face when she gets hit makes me giggle.
chrispykreme 3 years ago
Yea ChrispyKreme it looks like she has a toothache or something.
Sambucacat 2 years ago
coolest scene in the movie
Gief18PlusVids 3 years ago
I love Tilda. Her acting is always spot on.
zacattack214 3 years ago
"Lou" ripped her wings off while she was trying to kill his unborn son,
shauni55 3 years ago
Actually, she technically 'fell' from God's grace, and she wasn't trying to kill Lucifer's unborn son, she was trying to free him, otherwise the plot and her character wouldn't make sense. Her speech pretty much tells all.
theoXdore 3 years ago 5
did gabriel go back into the water to commit suicide so that she can return to being an angel?
ProcrastinatingGuy 3 years ago
I think he/she just went to wade around in the water. I highly doubt suicide will get his/her wings back.
This movie is worth owning just for that scene. Wow.
TheRougeEyelash 3 years ago
ProcastinatingGuy: no Gabriel was covered in Soot, she was just probably cleaning herself up.
Sambucacat 2 years ago 2
i love the expression on Gabriel's face after the smack.
dansantflamber 4 years ago 3
Ever since Constantine came out I've said that that face was Oscar-grade acting, and lo and behold Tilda swinton wins the Oscar.
konradl 4 years ago 7
same here!!!! i thought she'd get a nomination for narnia.
munkeybrains 4 years ago
angels dont have a gender
nanaki7 4 years ago 3
She wasn't an angel anymore at the end of the movie was she?
ericcc80 3 years ago
"look how well your doing" Gabriel is awsome
Alexmybird 4 years ago 6
I love that scene so much. She is wonderful.
boundinfinite 4 years ago 7
Gabriel is neither female nor male kids.
manensol 4 years ago 2
And only Tilda Swinton could play that
codesix 4 years ago 6
i was wondering about that.
sonjaxfactor 4 years ago
me too... I thought they made her a girl, but I thought they were showing the "genderless" aspect by making her wear guys cloths, and cutting her hair... she never did really look like a girl through this movie.
AwesomlyRandom 3 years ago
I was under the impression that angels were genderless. I think they picked a female actor who they could make look androgynous.
lepeke 3 years ago 3
Angels are mostly male in the Bible.Some angels even have kids with normal women, but God didn't like it, and told them not to do it. The children are called Nephillim, I think. Gabriel doubtless is male. But everyone has their own idea of what heaven or angels are like, so the movie is as correct as anything, I guess.
lollipopfop 3 years ago
I am sorry to break it to you, but Angels have never bred with humans. Any Angel that disobeyed God or did anything he disliked were cast into Hell at the Great Battle where Satan fell. Furthermore, Nephilim are not Angel/Human offspring, rather another name for fallen angels. I am not sure where you learned this, but it is not correct in any Christian society.
AwesomlyRandom 3 years ago
Genesis chapter 6 ;
And the sons of God saw the daughters of Adam, that they were beautiful. And the daughters of man bore sons unto them, the same that were giants and men of renown. These were the Nephillim.
Now, please tell me what chapter and verse of the Bible you are talking about. I certainly didn't write Genesi, God did. I am only quoting the Bible.
lollipopfop 3 years ago
Alright, we are both partly wrong. I looked it up. The Bible quote you cite means (if you read the footnotes) "The writer... may be using an old story or myth to point out the progressive degradation of mankind before the flood and to warn against the evil effects of intermarriage either of the descendants of Seth wtih teh Kenites or mor probably the Israelites with the native populations of Canaan." --- *continued*
AwesomlyRandom 3 years ago
It is pretty clear that it is nothing to do with intermarriage. Its easy to try to rewrite the Bible and take out the ugly stuff, but that is dishonest. There is no reason that they would phrase specificaly "the sons of God" took "the daughters of Man". The teaching would be just as against a male Israeli knocking up a female Philistine. Angels in the Bible are male. Michael, Uriel etc.
lollipopfop 3 years ago
Sons of God doesn't necessarily mean Angels of God.
gariadara 3 years ago
Then why say the "sons of God" shouldn't touch the "daughters of man"? Why not say the people of God should not intermarry with the people of Man? Angels are male in the Bible. Most of the Bible is based on older stories, that doesn't undermine anything.
lollipopfop 3 years ago
Didn't we already discuss this via Youtube E-message? I am done arguing, I sincerely don't have time to argue a point with someone who has made up their mind no matter what I say. I gave you my reasoning, my Theological instructor and my bible say differently than you. That is all. You may be right, I don't know for sure, but I am going to formulate my opinion based on MY Catholic Bible and MY Theology instructor, not some person I don't know on youtube. Thankyou / have a nice day.
AwesomlyRandom 3 years ago
*continued*--- Furthermore, another reason it gives for this might be that they were simply beings considered "divine" one Theologians view was that they were Demons (where I must have gotten the idea that Nephillim were Fallen Angels) and also, this would account for why it made the races of Mankind so wicked as it is saying, for this is the chapter that explains "The Wickedness of Mankind" before the great flood.
AwesomlyRandom 3 years ago
The Book of Jasher says... Oh that's right; the ones who came before you didn't like it, found that it inconveniently hampered their fairy tale, and removed it.
lightbringerrr 3 years ago
God wrote it eh? Did he pen it down on some lined paper and leave it around for someone to put in the front of the bible? Bullshit God "Wrote it" some random wrote it down & a bunch of other randoms got together & complied an entertaining book to influence others into one common order. All religion is the same - it's like a novel, all & all good - but i wouldn't read much into it.
Apsitis 3 years ago
well, if you consider the fact that the bible is a load of horseshit, you'll find that there's not much reason to debate here...
picklejuicehead 3 years ago
Well if you consider that most of the people that say the bible is full of horseshit, generally tend to believe other sorts of horseshit for alot less noble reasons, You would realise the only reason people like yourself say that is because you need or want fucking attention because you are pretty empty inside as a human being.
Drone391 3 years ago
ummm...ok...i am not 'empty inside' and just because i recognize your retarded religion for the horseshit it is doesn't mean i believe in other horseshit...all organized religions are ridiculous horseshit...do you also believe in santa and the toothfairy? do you really believe there is a big daddy in the sky who looks like santa that watches you masturbate with a look of disapproval on his face? do you think the way christians have murdered those of other faiths over the years is noble?
picklejuicehead 3 years ago
First off you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes morality or how it relates to faith, and please spare me your nonsense of where you think you get a superior prespective. You are no mystery and neither is your cliche tired knee jerk arguements.
The only thing truly more horseshit then any faith you mentioned is your blind arrogance.
Drone391 3 years ago 3
and you know, i don't think jesus would approve of your foul language...
picklejuicehead 3 years ago
I really don't give a fuck what you think jesus would approve of, because if the bible is bullshit well then according to you their is no sense or reason to act anyway. If I don't need God or any Fairytale bullshit then I certainly wouldn't need your twisted ideas of what right and wrong is. You are a typical backwards thinking atheist who believe their thoughts or notions are brand new, they aren't, and you are an idiot.
Drone391 3 years ago 5
ummm yeah...whatever you say...none of that even made any sense...just a bunch of blather like the bible...guess you just can't argue with an idiot cuz they'll always come back with more nonsense bullshit trying to prove they are right...well, have fun living your life trying to please imaginary beings...your loss...
picklejuicehead 3 years ago 2
That's the only thing you said that is correct, you can't talk to me and you will never be able to grasp what I say, because it's beyond you.
I know all about people like you, If you were on fire I wouldn't piss to put you out. Atheist or theist people like you are a waste of skin.
Drone391 3 years ago
that is not at all what jesus would do...typical christian hypocrite...
and what you say is not beyond me, it is simply horseshit...
picklejuicehead 3 years ago
If it is horseshit then why are you carrying this argument on. In my opinion you are not an athiest only some idiot who is trying to draw attention to yourself
JKNIP15 3 years ago
then what does that make you? i don't believe anyone was talking to you and here you are 'drawing attention to yourself'...
and the fact that i am 'carrying this argument on' in no way changes the fact that the bible is indeed a pile of steaming horseshit...
instead of blindly believing ridiculous horseshit, try doing some research on astrology as it relates to the bible and you will see that your religion is a lame copy of the astrologically based religion of the ancient egyptians...
picklejuicehead 3 years ago
In that case all religion (including yours) are only copies of older religions. For example, why is christmas on December 25 when jesus was not born anywhere near that date? But you have your opinion and i have my own. Let's leave it at that. I never denounced your religion. So why denounce mine? Think to yourself, What would Karl Marx do? lol
JKNIP15 3 years ago
i do not belong to any religion because they are all ridiculous...i live according to logic and common sense...that does not make me heartless or make my life empty, it only makes me sane and rational...you admit yourself that it makes no sense so why are you living your life by it? don't you see that it is crazy and pointless?
picklejuicehead 3 years ago
keep telling yourself that maybe one day you will actually believe it...its pretty obvious your ranting to prove to yourself your right because none of us care what you believe or don't believe
Acordaro90 2 years ago
oh, and i can explain the origins of christmas being on december 25th...the sun 'dies on the cross' of the zodiac (stops moving across the sky) on the 23rd of every year on the winter solstice (shortest day of the year) and is 'reborn' (starts moving back the other direction) on the 25th...so the 'birth' of the 'sun' (or 'son', since you like jesus) is on the 25th of december...
this is also where the mysterious 'cross with a circle in the middle of it' comes from...
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picklejuicehead 3 years ago
Actually, I thought Angels were always portrayed as androgynous in the bible... at least that's what I get from it.
Candydeon 3 years ago 3
Micheal the Arch Angel has male features,
Sambucacat 2 years ago