So, you are praying for those who have lost their lives in this "religious" conflict in Egypt..? Because it is so obvious that those involved are "muslim" and "christian" 'believers'......
@jdemeulenaer123 I am praying for everyone regardless of their religious affiliations who are suffering unnecessarily around the world because of people who have their own political and vested interests. Those who want rifts among communities will do anything to to flare up such misunderstandings because it helps their cause.
, as there are so many different beings in this world, that you have to apply different approaches to the so varied human beings. The recognize on great spirit and the same goes for the christians, the ortodox church, the jews, the indus, shintoists, etc, you cannot say that ONLY Islam possess the absolute truth. That is absolute nonsense...
Buddhism does not make anything compulsory because it is you who do your move toward the Buddha teachings, Buddha does not teach you to bow before a statue or bow toward a temple. It just teaches you to be good to others and be open to others and kind to others. This is difficult enough for anyone. The way to do it, is yours as you are a responsible adult and when you approach the Buddha teachings, this move is between you and the universal spirit. Buddhism proposes several guidelines, not one
@jdemeulenaer123 My understanding of Buddha's teachings is that he not only believed in one God, hereafter, communion with the Living God but also claimed to have been sent by God Almighty (as a prophet). He showed the path that leads to God, just like all other prophets of God. He certainly taught his people to be good just like all other true prophets did. Reality of Buddha's (pbuh) teachings: alislam . o r g/library/books/revelation/part_2_section_2 . h t m l (without spaces)
Peace everywhere? That is not exactly what we see in Egypt right now....unfortunately, so called "religious wars", (totally contradictory term, but we have to call it by a name...) still rage...
@jdemeulenaer123 Wars in the world are not because religions teach us so (as you rightly suggested too). These are political wars instigated by those who have their own agendas. Nothing to do with religion. Worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has always promoted understanding and peace among followers of different religions and backgrounds. We can only do as much as is possible. We promote peace through our actions and prayers. World will change insha Allah (God willing) for the better.
Other religions do the same. Buddhism recognizes Allah, Jesus, Shintoism, Krishna and so on...So when you are a good muslim, you are a good buddhist, a good christian, a good indu, a good shintoist...so Islam has nothing more than other religions. It just applies to those who believe in it...The buddhist also say that Islam is another expression of buddhism.....
@jdemeulenaer123 Brother, having a decent religious attitude is one thing while having something made compulsory in your Holy Scripture as part of your faith by God is another thing. Buddha (peace be on him) was a true prophet of God who came hundreds of years before Islam. If decent Buddists say that Islam is another expression of Buddism, it is out of their decency. Their scripture doesn't make it compulsory for them to believe in the truthfulness of Prophet Muhammad or Islam.
Sorry, pal, but Islam is not the ONLY religion that respects other religions, they all respect each other, don't you think..? As for peace, you should then be at peace with all other religions of the world. Peace be with you!
@jdemeulenaer123 Brother, Islam is the only religion that makes it compulsory for its followers (in its Holy Book) to not only respect other religions but also accept the truthfulness of all the prophets who came and originated these religions. A Muslim is not a Muslim if he only believes Prophet Muhammad but rejects the truthfulness of Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Abraham, Jesus so on and so forth. We as Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is striving for real peace wherever we exist. Peace be on you too!
Islam peace does not make sense but only peace does to all humans. So why insist on >Islam peace and justice and freedom.....Only Islam has these things...? How ridiculous... You mean that no other humans have found those things, then you must be quite innocent and not so well documented....
@jdemeulenaer123 As I said earlier, it is only to raise awareness among general public about the true essence of Islamic teachings (considering the fact that there are grave misconceptions about the religion of Islam among non-Muslims because of the actions of some). Islam actually is the only religion that not only respects all other religions but also makes it compulsory for its followers to accept the truth of the respective prophets. So to us all religion originally taught nothing but peace!
Muslim Peace means nothing but peace yes. Anyone in his right mind would know what peace is all about. No need to make it Islamic, Islam is not the only peacemaker in the world....but rather seems to do the reverse in many places...
This all fine to quote from any sacred book, the important thing is to put it in practice. The West has something called "freedom of speech and freedom of expression" and that's why you can see these words on London buses, you should not take everything that you read so seriously, the English are like that and they know what this all means, anyone can post anything, and say anything...if it hurts you, take a distance and a wider view at life and you will discover even more than you ever expected
@jdemeulenaer123 The purpose of this campaign was not to say that it is only Islam that is the peacemaker. The real purpose of this campaign is only to raise awareness among people that it is not religion (especially Islam that is widely misunderstood) that is the cause of all the wars and conflicts. Islam teaches its followers to be peacemakers. We must not let these extremists affect relationship between different communities. You are right without practice, words mean nothing...
...and this is the reason why worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has always strived for peace wherever they have been. Please listen to these non-Muslim dignitaries of the world (who know us well) talking about Ahmadiyya Muslim Community: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
Thank you for your response and it is, I think only part of the reality, because, I believe that humans still try tirelessly to stop conflicts arounde the world and this is a good attitude to notice as well. Vested interest have always been there and in spite of this, there are people who fight to end conflicts (contradictory indeed to "fight to end a conflict, hope you understand what I mean..), who do not want any fame yet work for the needy and the oppressed..hope is always present.
Sorry about this, I did not mean to be rude at all and I apologize to you if I did hurt you.
Concerning your question about a definition of peace, I think that anyone could go to a good dictionary and find a definition that is accepted by all. No need to call on God or Buddha to find a definition. When two people are quarelling or two nations at war, then a human and natural reaction is to stop the conflict. Why? Because we all prefer peace to war or conflict . Do you have a better definition.?
@jdemeulenaer123 No offence taken brother. You are right that when we see two people quarrelling or two nations at war, the natural human reaction is to stop the conflict. Despite this, we see that this doesn't always happen. Vested/national/political interests come in the way and we start ignoring the sufferings of others. We become selfish and even become cause of conflicts and wars. We start usurping the rights of others because by doing so, we are at "peace". This is the reality...
...Justice for all is the only way peace can truly prevail in the world. Holy Quran says: "O ye who believe! be strict in observing justice, and be witnesses for Allah, even though it be against yourselves or against parents and kindred. Whether he be rich or poor, Allah is more regardful of them both than you are. Therefore follow not low desires so that you may be able to act equitably. And if you conceal the truth or evade it, then remember that Allah is well aware of what you do." 4:135/136
If you are still searching for a meaning of peace, you should go back to school or read your "sacred book" again. Or maybe English is not your mother tongue...?
@jdemeulenaer123 Is this what you call peace? Speaking to others in this way who you don't even know personally is peace to you? My understanding of it is quite different than this. If one can't even be courteous to others when addressing then all their calls for peace etc. are nothing but hollow slogans. You asked me a question and I genuinely wanted a reply from you for a decent discussion. It is unfortunate that you responded in this way. It was quite uncalled for.
@Abdul4691 Islam came to rule the hearts of people and not just mere lands. Swords can sever heads but it can't change the hearts. It is the heart that the beautiful teachings of Islam changes. Islam will continue to spread and rule the hearts with love, understanding, tolerance, peace and harmony insha Allah.
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The truth is that a powerful bad spirit started Islam .. a disgruntled 2nd in command who was originally helpiing a false christ establish a religion based on Jesus . so they went to war on earth and in heaven .. and it is still going on ... Both Christians and those of the Muslim faith need to start being attuned to the love of the Unversal Spirit .. and stop hanging on every word of their false bibles .. Trust the Great Spirit within instead...peace out ..
@kagiso3741 We don't need to go back 1400 years to see which "spirit" started Islam. Lets see what true Islam can do in this age of injustice, selfishness, intolerance and hate: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
This alone should be a proof enough to find that Islam is nothing but a Divine religion for the good of humanity.
Ok, truly the East London company needs to invest in these as East London Busses server mainly East London(hint the name) and there is a HUGE muslim population thertr
I believe in no god but Allah and Muhammed was his Prophet
I pray for the human race to be forgiven and spared hell
@albaniaismylife This bus campaign was all sponsored by Ahmadiyya Muslim community UK branch. We are also reaching every doorstep in the UK and distributing the leaflet explaining the true values of Islam. ie. peace, loyalty to ones' country, and tolerance. We hope to bridge the gap that is building between Muslims and non-Muslims because of ignorance and misunderstandings. Sorry, I didn't understand your comment that you believe in no God but Allah and Muhammad were his messengers.
@HINDAAWI So, there is no human that can decide upon other peoples' religions. If people say they are Muslims and believe in the Kalima "Noone is worthy of worship except Allah and Mohammad is his Prophet and Messenger", then you can't call him a non-Muslim. No matter if he drinks alcohol, eats pork, commits adultery, kills people,...
That person will stay a Muslim until he believes in the statement above. Everything else will be judged by Allah after our deaths and can't be judged by a human.
@HINDAAWI No1 has the right to call someone a non-Muslim if he himself believes he is a Muslim. There was an incident at the time of Mohammad (saw), when in a war one sahaba killed an enemy, although the enemy said the Kalima Shahada in the final moments because he could see his death. Still that sahaba decided to kill him. Prophet Muhammad was very upset when he heard about that. Why? Because that person that said the Kalima was a Muslim from that instant. No matter what the reason was.
@HINDAAWI That doesn't mean they are kafirs. Get your facts right. How many times you want me to repeat myself. No human has the right to call another a kafir. It is God and only God that will decide. We believe in the Kalima Shahada = we are Muslims. This is sufficient to be a Muslim. Furthermore we pray 5 times a day, read the same Qur'an, believe in the same Prophet(s). What makes you think we are kafirs?
@HINDAAWI You don't even have enough knowledge about Ahmadis. I'm sure some next non-Muslim Mullah told you all this. If you wanna know about Ahmadis, why don't you go visit an Ahmadi Mosque instead of going to your own mosque, where you will be only told lies about us.
We are fully following the Islam that the Prophet Muhammad (saw) brought to us. What are you on about?
If your belief was really that strong, you would have some answers to my questions.
@HINDAAWI Yeah then go to your non-Muslim Mullahs who will keep spreading lies about us. Then you can't talk anything. You can't say nothing. You don't know anything. You have absolute 0 knowledge about Ahmadiyyat. How can you find the true path yourself, if you are not going to different sects and ask for their believes? How can you be sure that your belief is correct?
How stupid is that? You have to go around to different mosques of different sects to find the right path.
@habbadou This alone shows the difference between Ahmadi Muslims and non-Ahmadi Muslims. Clearly Ahmadi Muslims are spreading the true meaning of Islam, which is PEACE. Did you not see how many people were killed on May 28 in Lahore? What did we do after that? Did we burn any cars, buses, mosques? Did we practise any violence against those who attacked us? 85+ (!) people were killed, it wasn't a small thing. And yet did we Ahmadis do ANYTHING? This clearly shows who is practising the true Islam.
@HINDAAWI You are simply not answering to my points. Just because you didn't have any answers to my questions, you are leaving. OK. May Allah show the world that Ahmadiyyat is the true Islam and that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the true Imam Mahdi. Ameen. True ISLAM = PEACE, Ahmadiyya Islam = PEACE
@HINDAAWI So according to what you believe, there won't be ANY Imam Mahdi, because you will simply not accept any. If (nauzubillah) Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a liar, then whoever will come after him and declare himself as the Imam Mahdi, who would believe them? Whoever will claim to be the Imam Mahdi, people like you will never accept them anyway, no matter if the signs come true or not. You kind of people will NEVER believe anyone.
@HINDAAWI Which "straight path" do you want Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam to follow? Bring the issues one by one and we will discuss them in light of Quran and hadith, Quran being the first and ultimate source of guidance. May Allah always keep us on the striaght path.
@HINDAAWI I think you mean Ahmadi Muslims, because Qadianis are the people who belong to the village of Qadian, India. Anyway, many enemies of Islam declare Islam to be satan in disguise, but does it change the facts?
@HINDAAWI Listen: No human has the right to call another human a kafir. It is God and only God who can decide and he will decide. What you should rather pray is: May Allah give the Ahmadis what they deserve, whether it is reward or punishment. Who are you to decide?
@HINDAAWI Well, almost every single sect of Muslims today has issued fatwa against the other sect. That makes every single sect of Islam today non-Muslim. There doesn't remain anything to talk about after that, does it?
@HINDAAWI This alone shows the difference between Ahmadi Muslims and non-Ahmadi Muslims. We are spreading the TRUE meaning of Islam, which is PEACE. You however calling others 'pigs' is completely the opposite. So you can't even say anything here.
@HINDAAWI Keep repeating the same thing. This argument is getting nowhere. You don't have any points. You are not answering my questions. And your attitude and way of talking makes me believe you are not even a Muslim. Look at the difference. Wake UP! Look what happened on 28 May 2010. What did Ahmadis do against that? Did we protest? Did we take revenge? Did we block roads? Did we bomb cars? This is the true Islam = PEACE! This should show you and anybody out there a moral difference in us.
@HINDAAWI Fatwah of Jews against Jesus was also official, and this is the reason why he was sentenced to be put on the cross by the Roman authorities. Did it change the facts in the eyes of Allah. In response to your "Islamic" language towards us, I would say what Quran teaches me: "And the servants of the Gracious God are those who walk on the earth in a dignified manner, and when the IGNORANT address them, they say, ‘PEACE!’" (25:63/64) To you your way and to me mine!
I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me.
@ALTEY12345 Despite that hadith, these are also the words of Holy Prophet: "Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet." (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138) This shows that the prophethood that was closed by Allah after Holy Prophet was only lawbearing prophethood outside the ummah of Holy Prophet (pbuh).
U can call yourseves qadianis or ahmeddiyah but dont call yourselves muslims its an insult to us Muslims. OK forget about me the whole Muslim world is calling you kafir... The 1974 Declaration of The Muslim World League
@ALTEY12345 What difference does it make in the eyes of Allah even if the whole world rejects a true prophet of Allah and His followers? So even if your so called "Muslim world League" rejected us, it would only confirm our truthfulness even more. Did not Holy Prophet warn us of the time in the Muslim ummah when 72 sects had to on one side and the 73rd on one true path? Did he not resemble all the 72 sects with the 72 sects of Jews of the time of Jesus? Thank you for mentioning that!
@IslamAhmadiya SubhanAllah! That is the incorrect interpretation of that Hadith.
You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. Qur'an, 109:06.
Look I dont mean to turn this into some hateful speech and if i've offended you then forgive me, but i sincerely advise you to look beyond Qadianism/Ahmeddiyah. I know your not an idiot Allah SWT has blessed us all with akal & intellect. So sincerely ask Allah for guidance. May Allah guide us all to the straight path... Ameeen!
@ALTEY12345 You are absolutely right, Allah has given us all Aql and intellect and Allah Almighty repeatedly instructs us in the Quran to use it as well, and this is exactly the reason why I believe Ahmadiyya understanding of Islam as the most true and purest. You have advised me to see beyond Ahmadiyyat. Do you have a better version of Islam on offer? If you have, let me know, we can discuss that in detail in light of Holy Quran and Prophet (PBUH), Quran being the ultimate source of guidance!
@IslamAhmadiya Islam is a pure Deen which Allah SWT has preserved in its prestigious form and shall continue to do so till the Day Of Judgement, Nor me or anyone else can change this fact. Islam came in one form and that was the Deen revaeled to the Prophet Muhammad SAW, and His Noble Sahabah Radi Allahu anhuma. Today me and you have our own perception of Islam, this is why we must ask Almighty Allah to guide us with a sincere heart.
@ALTEY12345 There is no doubt that Islam is the pure Deen and no harm has reached the religion itself. If you are however saying the state of Muslims today is as prestine as it was 1400 years ago, then you are lying! Islam is left only in name but not in deeds. I don't want to go into detail of this as any fair minded person can see it. Holy Prophet himself prophecied about the coming of Imam Mahdi in this age. You might be following Islam of your "own perception", I however follow Imam Mahdi!
@ALTEY12345 Ameen, but once again, I would advise you to work on your own advice. ie. using ones' God given Aql and intellect to find the truth. You did give ask me to see beyond Ahmadiyyat to find the truth, but didn't give me a better option. I take from that you are yourself confused about the true path. In that case you should pray to Allah yourself with pure, unprejudiced and unbiased heart rather than wasting your time, energy and above all your faith in attacking Ahmadiyya Jamaat.
@IslamAhmadiya My pleasure mate, I've got several Ahmadi friends and the fight against extremism could never be more important - much more of this kind of campaigning please
yo brother every one knows that ahmadiyas have left the fold of islam and are kuffars!!! ur not a muslim m8 full stop. how stupid can u guys get oh allah guide the ummah of our beloved prophet mohammed pbuh. p.s ur leader died in the toilet that explains every think.
@Tabligh786 Jews cliamed that Jesus (their Messiah) and his followers were out of fold of Judaism. They also claimed that Jesus died an accursed death. Compare your claims as a non-Ahmadi Muslim about Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Promised Messiah) with that of the Jews of the time of Jesus. Do you see any similairity? Well this similarity of Muslims of today with Jews of the time of Jesus was prophecied by no other than Holy Prophet himself more than 1400 years ago. Ponder and Fear Allah!
@donshery Did you know... That to doubt that qadianis are kuffar can lead you to kuffar??? You should only call someone kafir if you know 100% that they are kafir, there is absolutely no doubt that qadianis are kuffar...
@ALTEY12345 Nothing's wrong with me, it's just that you guys should let people believe whatever they want and not kill an innocent person because of their beliefs.
@TheFreeForever@donshery Did you know that Qadianis say that every Muslim who believes in all the Prophets of Allah SWT but deny that Mirza (May he be distant from The Mercy Of Allah) was a prohphet than they are kafir. SubhanAllah I call someone who is an open kafir a kafir and everyone jumps on me and asks me why.
If anyone here doubts that Qadiani are kafir than i fear for your Imaan. Oh and when and where did i say i was going to kill Innoncent people???
@ALTEY12345 Jesus (a jew) came to the Jews preaching the Mosaic Law but the jews rejected him as treated him as liars. Now the question ill ask u is simple, eventhough they were jews (same as Jesus), could it be said that by rejecting Jesus they were still believers? NO.
Now, Mirza Sahib, a true Prophet of Allah and a muslim came to the muslims and he is treated as a liar. Can u consider urself a believer? NO
You very ignorant and I never said YOU were going to murder someone (although you might because of your extremist views), I said your sect is killing Ahmadi's.
In Pak you treat them like animals when really you guys are the true animals!!!!
Check out the link below to see what your scumbag colleagues do in Pak to Ahmadi'.
@TheFreeForever I'm Ignorant? OK look down at the comment of sadjid19 and tell me what he is saying.. He is not only doing takfir of me but also the whole UMMAH! You got a Problem with what they do in Pakistan??? Yeah? OK Then talk to them about it not me, i neither care nor support what they do, I'm trying to make clear the beliefs of Real Muslims before these enemies of Islam cause more Fitnah than they already have. May ALLAH crush their efforts... AMEEEN!
@ALTEY12345 Simple question for you. What is the verdict of Quran on somebody who rejects even a single prophet of Allah? What is the verdict of a person who will reject Imam Mahdi of your understanding when he comes? Ther term Kafir literally means the one who rejects. Would you call somebody who rejects a prophet of Allah a "Momin" (believer)? Secondly unlike yourself and your "ulema" we don't waste our time and energy calling those who don't adhere to our beliefs Kafirs.
Islam is false and the claim you make is deceptive, Islam cannot be peaceful as long as you follow quran. Quran ask the Muslim believers not to take Jews and Christians as friends and they got to fight every last Jew. Freedom -what freedom you give if anyone want to leave Islam you Kill them and force minority to follow Islam..stop spreading your lies..
@Jensen I hope that what you have said is out of ignorance to the teachings of Quran and not out of your internal prejudices. Quran only forbids to befriend those who fight you because of your faith. Allah says: "Allah ONLY forbids you, respecting those who have FOUGHT against you on account of your RELIGION, and have driven you OUT of your homes, and have HELPED OTHERS in driving you out, that you make friends of them, and whosoever makes friends of them it is these that are the transgressors."
@IslamAhmadiya Surely I have not expressed my view out of ignorance or out of prejudice. the truth is Islam is a violent religion , what do you say about sura 5:51 Don't take Christians and Jews as friends(befriending).Sura 2:216 fight is obligatory.sura 2:190fight the idolatry. so many verses I can quote which is in your book. Muslims often quote testament verse to justify your book, let me tell you Christians follow Christ and his teaching and that is to love your enemies..
@JensenJoseph2008 As I tried to explain to you earlier that befriending is only fobidden with those "Christian" and "Jews" who impose wars against the Muslims for their faith or help eachother for this evil act. For the rest Quran says: "Allah forbids you NOT, respecting those who have NOT fought against you on account of your RELIGION, and who have NOT driven you forth from your homes, that you be KIND to THEM and act EQUITABLY towards them; surely Allah loves those who are EQUITABLE." (60:8/9)
...as for the 2:190/191, this is the full verse: "And fight in the cause of Allah against THOSE who fight against YOU, but DO NOT transgress. Surely, Allah loves NOT the TRANSGRESSORS." Permission to fight is only against those who have imposed war against you on account of your religion. What is wrong about this teaching? How would you respond if somebody enters your home and takes your children hostage God forbid and starts killing them one by one? Would you present other cheek as well?
...as for the (2:190/191), this is the full verse: "And fight in the cause of Allah against THOSE who fight against YOU, but DO NOT transgress. Surely, Allah loves NOT the TRANSGRESSORS." Permission to fight is only against those who have imposed war against you on account of your religion. What is wrong about this teaching? How would you respond if somebody enters your home and takes your children hostage God forbid and starts killing them one by one? Would you present other cheek as well?
@iammready Jazak Allah (may Allah reward you) for appreciating this message brother. Zoroaster was a Prophet of Allah who came in Persia and as Allah Almighty says in the Quran that "He has sent warners/prophets to every nation of the world", Zoroaster (pbuh) was one of such prophets for the people of persia of his time who came to guide them to the true God Almighty. Thank you once again for your kind words. Wassalam
I have just come across this and it is all very multicultural and good
... but have we yet received any sort of apology from anyone for the outrage in our streets and subsequent period of uncertainty for the British travelling public, when a bus was blown up on 7/7/05 killling innocent men and women, apparently in the name of this same religion ??
@dunavuk Brother/Sister, Murderers have no religion. A murderer will find any excuse to commit murder. Some would do it in the name of religion and others would find some other excuse. We must not get into their trap by thinking that their beastly acts are the result of their religion. This is exactly what they want you to think. If you watch my other videos you will see that Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has been condemning this beastly behaviour in the name of Islam for the last 120 years...
...the Founder of this worldwide community wrote over the century ago the following: "I know for certain that the burden of the sins of those people who commit murders through ignorance on account of such (religious) preachings, and who are unaware of the reason why Islam had to fight battles in its early stages, lies on the necks of these maulvis (clergy) who go on propagating secretly these dangerous doctrines which result in such grievous loss of life." then he wrote...
..."I have brought you a commandment, which is that Jehad with the sword has been ended but the Jehad of the purification of your spirits must continue to be waged. I say this not on my own but in order to proclaim the design of God. Reflect on the hadees of Bukhari wherein it is stated that the Promised Messiah would put an end to fighting for the faith. Accordingly I command those who have joined my ranks that they should discard all such notions...
...They should purify their hearts and foster their mercy and should have sympathy for the afflicted. They should spread peace on the earth, for this would cause their faith to spread"
So this is the teaching of true Islam. Religion has always been exploited by people inside and outside particular faiths. Just read history and see how mercilessly people were brutally murdered in the name of Christianity during Spanish Crusades. All religions teach us the same human values. May Allah be with u.
@IslamAhmadiya Then your message is indeed very important for us to realise here in London, that there is a vast majority of good people in your religion as, hopefully, in all walks of life.
@dunavuk Your comment shows your own internal honesty and decency too. You felt something genuinenly and posted your feelings here in my comments section and when I explained to you the true essence of my religion, you very kindly appreciated those words. Thank you for that. You are most welcome to ask me any questions that still might agitate your mind. I would try to answer them to the best of my humble abilities. Take care and Wassalam (and peace be on you)
@ever1ast If Ahmadiyya is really has nothing to do with Islam and it is nothing but "evilness" then you don't have to worry about anything. It will die its own natural death. God will help the "true" followers of Islam and Ahmadiyyat will be destroyed by Allah. If on the contrary it is truly from God then no warning of yours will have any effect on the progress of this Divine Community. Just like the enemies of Islam warned the people to stay away from that "evilness" you are doing the same!
@IslamAhmadiya "Just like the enemies of Islam warned the people to stay away from that "evilness" you are doing the same!" <----------------- The only difference with your statement here is that you are the enemy of Islam. However as long as you are still alive you still have time to repent and ask Allah to guide you to the truth.
@IslamAhmadiya The only difference is everyone knows you are the true enemies of Islam who have always been funded by the British in order to misguide and try to destroy the Ummah. You still have time to repent and ask Allah to guide you to Islam before it's to late.
@1udacri5 How convenient for you to say we are the product of the British. That makes your life so easy, doesn't it. The amazing thing is that if we are the product of the British then why did the British created something that destroyed the very foundations of their religion of Christianity? Christianity today is based on the very belief that Jesus died on the cross, Promised Messiah proved it from Bible itself that Jesus survived this accursed death on the cross. How foolish of the "British"!
@ever1ast If Ahmadiyya has nothing to do with Islam and it is all evil, you don't have to worry about anything. If it is the truth really and you have a mentality of todays corrupt Mullahs then you have to worry about everything. By the way your "warning" reminds us of the enemies of Islam at the time of Holy Prophet (pbuh). They also "warned" the people not to join Islam as according to them it was nothing but "evilness". Your statement however would do nothing to harm the community of God!
@Sikandirt Since when did you get the authority from God to make decisions on His behalf as to who is hellbound and who is heaven bound. Stop acting in an evil way and start fearing God. Be concerned about your own end rather than making judgements on others.
ähh...yes IT IS IN FACT WAY TO HELL....your "Messiah" the Hobby Reincarnation of Krishna, Buddha, Jesus & Imam Mahdi...Blasphemy....ISA (s.a.v) will come and our leader too...by the way how did your Ghulam Mirza die...in Shit...looolll...revert to the TRuth of real Islam..leave your diabolic SecT!!!!
@Sikandirt First of all Promised Messiah never claimed to be the "REINCARNATION" of those earlier prophets? He only said that he has come in the spirit, likeness and character of these earlier prophets. One who dies never comes back. For once try to take your information from right sources. If Quran declares Allah's hand to be that of Holy Prophet's, does that mean that God forbid Holy Prophet became reincarnation of Allah? With regards to your comment about Promised Messiah's so called...
...accursed death God forbid, don't forget Jews also claimed that Jesus (the first Messiah) died an accursed death. Muslims like yourself today claim that Promised Messiah died an accursed death God forbid. Both claims of Jews and Muslims of today are based on conjecture without any true knowledge on the subject. Holy Prophet however did prophecy of today's Muslims who had to resemble with Jews of the time of Jesus like a pair of shoes. You have just fulfilled the prophecy of Holy Prophet!
Well it all looks very nice but the Koran says kill all the non believers, and Choudary and his followers who now have Sharia Law in some areas and want complete Sharia over the UK. The ones I have seen say FReedom Go To Hell and the final Jihad is about to happen in Europe. So this must be another ploy for a feeling of well being for the time being.
@Monarchoflos Where does it say in the Quran that KILL ALL the NON-BELIEVERS? Also what do you understand by the term Shariah? If some people want their barbaric interpretation of Shariah in their towns or cities, I can't say anything about their behaviour. Those who carry stupid placards like "freedom go to hell" or things like that should be sent to places where they are deprived of their freedoms. I can't say anything about such nutcases. To see what Islam is watch this: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
@Monarchoflos That's because you are the product of the media's way to brainwash people, so no Muslim blames you for your way of thinking. It's time you opened your mind like thousands of British are doing who have studied Islam and have embraced it with open arms as there very own.
IA : You have to know that NOT all that banned and forbidden must be RIGHT !
Jesus Christ has completed His task as the Messiah by saying : IT'S FINISHED !
There we need neither Muhammad nor Mirza Ghulam Ahmad nor .... people that has and will come to self-claim as the Messiah. So, Jesus that all we need as the Messiah for has completing the job. Jesus warned us to be careful with the False Prophets.
antabaranta, If Jesus really said "its finished", then it was to suggest that he was the awaited Jewish Messiah and that he was the last of the Israelite prophets. With his coming, the long chain of Jewish prophets came to an end. He did however himself prophecied about the coming of Holy Prophet, and also his "second" coming. Just like John the Baptist was the "second coming" of Elijah in his likeness and character, second coming of Jesus has taken place in person of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.
@IslamAhmadiya, there is no where in the Holy Bible that the second coming of Jesus Christ would be taken place in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (India). Not even Muhammad (Arab). Not even Prophet Joseph Smith (USA). and other 'prophets'.
Jesus was not only the last of the Israelite prophets but of all nations and humankind. Because of Jesus salvation for ALL nations.
antabaranta, Nowhere in the OT did ever it was mentioned that second coming of Elijah had to take place in person of John the Baptist but still Jesus himself declared so. Why do you believe that then if you always go by the scriptures literally word by word? Jesus was only sent for the 12 tribes of Israel and he made it quite clear himself. If people like Paul after Jesus' migration and natural death put their words in Jesus' mouth and associated things with him then I can't say much about them!
@IslamAhmadiya. There will be always the unbelievers among the believers.
The point is, that Elijah was confirmed by another prophet Jesus Christ both from Israel. Again, who did confirm the prophecy of Muhammad, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Joseph Smith ?
All self-claimed ! Jesus warned us already to be aware of The False Prophets !
anta, My understanding of God differs quite a lot from yours. To me God is not a Racist. He doesn't give preference to one nation over the others. So in the eyes of God Africans, Arabs, Asians, Whites, so on and so forth have as much chance of getting God's grace as much as the the Israelites. This reward of prophethood remained with the Israelites for as long as they kept the commands of God intact with them. The moment they deviated from the path of God, God's grace was also lifted from them.
...So the God who sent Jesus is the same God that sent Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. No one nation has the monopoly over God! To you and me Jesus was a true prophet of God, but to Jews he was also a "self-claimed" Messiah. So if in your eyes, Prophet Muhammad and Promised Messiah are self-claimed prophets then there is nothing surprising. You have yourself professed that there will always be the unbelievers among the believers.
anta, There were many false prophets but Jesus just like other prophets and their scriptures gave signs about the true Messiah, watch this video: /watch?v=JXGCq78mxP8
@IslamAhmadiya: Jesus confirmed IT'S FINISHED ! His salvation is perfect.
Jesus died on the cross as written by/or guided by eyewitness. Muhammad,Ghulam Ahma,Joseph Smith weren't/not guided by the eyewitness. Only heard or read the history hundreds or thousands of years after.
@antabaranta As I have already explained Jesus was the last of the Israelite prophets and the last one for the Jews. So it was finished. Salvation of God for the Jews of his time was only possible through accepting him. Every prophet when is sent by God comes for the guidance of of his respective people and those who reject a true prophet close their doors and make it very difficult for themselves to get salvation. Lets discuss Jesus' apparant "death" on the cross. Everything will go against you
...we will discuss the four gospels in their proper contexts and see how it was not possible for Jesus to have died such an ACCUURSED death on the cross. Those who apparantly suggested that Jesus died, were only onlookers. There were no doctors to confirm his death. Pilate never wanted Jesus to die on the cross, Jesus didn't stay on the cross for too long, his legs were also spared to be broken, his body was handed over to his SECRET DESICPLE, he even corrected his own disciples that...
...he was NOT his own (Jesus') spirit/ghost rather the same Jesus they saw before crucifixion. There are so many things that I can say here, but lets leave it here. Jesus even prophecied about his own survival from the death on the cross. This is all recorded in NT. Whichever name you call your God with, you are calling the same one God. This is the teaching of Quran and Islam. I have no problem with whichever good name you call God with. There is only one God. May Allah guide you.
@IslamAhmadiya : It is me have explained you that Jesus was the lsraelite prophets and the last one for the Jews and THE WORLD - ALL NATIONS. It's Finished ! Period ! As I mentioned Muhammad and Ghulam Ahmad were not nor guided by eyewitness. So, what did they and nowaday Muslim know about Jesus. They only knew and know half-baked story !
@antabaranta Jesus wan't the LAST ever prophet. He in addition to earlier prophets and their scriptures actually themselves prophecied about the coming of Holy Prophet Muhammad. Jesus was however last of the Israelite prophets and the Messiah for the Jews of his time. Well you might be guided by the "eyewitnesses" but to me its God who is the TRUE GUIDE. So the God who guided Jesus also guided the prophets before and after him to follow. Anyway, when NT is read carefully, in an unbiased way...
...it becomes very clear that Jesus DID NOT die that ACCURSED DEATH on the cross. Jesus actually hismelf prophecied about his survival from the accursed death on the cross.
@IslamAhmadiya : Even His Death of the Cross had been prophecied by earlier prophets. The fact that neither Muhammad nor Ghulam Ahmad could not changed hundreds or thousands of years after.
@antabaranta Jesus himself prophecied about his survival from the death on the cross then how could prophets before him prophecy about his death. Give us the reference where he was apparantly prophecied to die on the cross. We will check the references in their proper context. We will read them carefully and critically.
@IslamAhmadiya: Jesus never prophecied his survival in the Cross. Even much earlier John The Baptist alrady declared about Him : Behold THE LAMB OF GOD ?
Do you know what does mean JESUS IS THE LAMB OF GOD ? If not, contact a Christian Church near you. Except if you prefer being Stubborn just like some Jews at the time of Jesus.
@antabaranta Well Jesus did make it clear to the Jews that NO SIGN will be shown in his favour by God apart from that of Janah's. Sign of Jonah was that he survived the death against all odds. The sign of Jesus was also that he survived the death from the wounds he received during crucifixion. Just like Jonah continued his ministry even after his ordeal in the fish, Jesus also continued his ministry to the rest of the 10 tribes of Israel after his ordeal on the cross. Why don't you just...
...give us the reference where Jesus was prophecied by earlier prophets to DIE on the cross. We will look into the scripture carefully and in a critical way. Actually the "lamb" of God reference in Isaiah 53 doesn't talk about Jesus' death on the cross rather his SURVIVAL.
@IslamAhmadiya : Muhammad, Ghulam Ahmad and Muslim today were not the eyewitness of the crucifixion. Even I told you already - Jesus did not speak Arabic.
After the crucifixion Jesus is risen from the death to confirm that death is not the end of everything. Jesus can give you an eternal life.
@antabaranta When we read the accounts of those eyewitnesses properly, in an unbiased and honest way, we come to the only one conclusion and that is that Jesus survived the death on the cross and migrated. God saved his chosen one from that accursed death on the cross.
@antabaranta I am talking about the same NT that you infer your irrational beliefs to be going against your own beliefs. The eyewitnesses that according to you talked about Jesus' literal death, actually talk about his survival from this accursed death when the NT is read in an unbiased, rational and honest way.
@antabaranta As I said earlier, Jesus never DIED on the cross. You didn't mention the so called prophecy of Isaiah 53 about Jesus aparant DEATH on the cross. Where is the proof that Jesus literally rose from the literal accursed death on the cross. All the evidence proves otherwise when one looks everything in proper context and in an ubiased way. As I have already explained Jesus himself prophecied about his survival from the death on the cross when he compared his sign with that of Jonah's.
@IslamAhmadiya: No prophecy about Muhammad and Ghulam Ahmad except as the False Prophets. GOD in Jesus Christ ir the TRUE GUIDE as HE is the true LIGHT OF THE W-O-R-L-D in real. Not just in imagination.
@IslamAhmadiya : God is not racist, but HE chose Salvation and The Promised Messiah from Israel. That's why HE called Abraham-Isaac-Jacob - and their descendants like Moses to write HIS presence. Moses-Aaron-Joshua and others descendats wrote about their ancestors Abraham-Isaac-Jacob-Joseph and also before that like Noah-Job until Adam. God's grace now with ALL NATIONS through Jesus Christ. As HE saved that Canaan Woman, by faith, HE SAVES ALL NATIONS !
anta, God chose Jewish Messiah from Israel. He has sent prophets for the guidance of mankind to ever nation at different times of history according to Holy Quran. Jesus was just one of such true prophets of God who came for the guidance of Jewish people who had forgotten the true spirit of Judaism. This is the reason he made it clear that he hadn't come to abolish Mosaic law rather came to fulfill it. He was a Jew who was made a true prophet of Allah.How does he save?He didn't even die on cross
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ImDaWuun 7 months ago
salam, please watch this video insh Allah...
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ooJesusIsMuslimoo 9 months ago
So, you are praying for those who have lost their lives in this "religious" conflict in Egypt..? Because it is so obvious that those involved are "muslim" and "christian" 'believers'......
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 I am praying for everyone regardless of their religious affiliations who are suffering unnecessarily around the world because of people who have their own political and vested interests. Those who want rifts among communities will do anything to to flare up such misunderstandings because it helps their cause.
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
, as there are so many different beings in this world, that you have to apply different approaches to the so varied human beings. The recognize on great spirit and the same goes for the christians, the ortodox church, the jews, the indus, shintoists, etc, you cannot say that ONLY Islam possess the absolute truth. That is absolute nonsense...
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
Buddhism does not make anything compulsory because it is you who do your move toward the Buddha teachings, Buddha does not teach you to bow before a statue or bow toward a temple. It just teaches you to be good to others and be open to others and kind to others. This is difficult enough for anyone. The way to do it, is yours as you are a responsible adult and when you approach the Buddha teachings, this move is between you and the universal spirit. Buddhism proposes several guidelines, not one
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 My understanding of Buddha's teachings is that he not only believed in one God, hereafter, communion with the Living God but also claimed to have been sent by God Almighty (as a prophet). He showed the path that leads to God, just like all other prophets of God. He certainly taught his people to be good just like all other true prophets did. Reality of Buddha's (pbuh) teachings: alislam . o r g/library/books/revelation/part_2_section_2 . h t m l (without spaces)
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
Peace everywhere? That is not exactly what we see in Egypt right now....unfortunately, so called "religious wars", (totally contradictory term, but we have to call it by a name...) still rage...
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 Wars in the world are not because religions teach us so (as you rightly suggested too). These are political wars instigated by those who have their own agendas. Nothing to do with religion. Worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has always promoted understanding and peace among followers of different religions and backgrounds. We can only do as much as is possible. We promote peace through our actions and prayers. World will change insha Allah (God willing) for the better.
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
Other religions do the same. Buddhism recognizes Allah, Jesus, Shintoism, Krishna and so on...So when you are a good muslim, you are a good buddhist, a good christian, a good indu, a good shintoist...so Islam has nothing more than other religions. It just applies to those who believe in it...The buddhist also say that Islam is another expression of buddhism.....
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 Brother, having a decent religious attitude is one thing while having something made compulsory in your Holy Scripture as part of your faith by God is another thing. Buddha (peace be on him) was a true prophet of God who came hundreds of years before Islam. If decent Buddists say that Islam is another expression of Buddism, it is out of their decency. Their scripture doesn't make it compulsory for them to believe in the truthfulness of Prophet Muhammad or Islam.
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
Sorry, pal, but Islam is not the ONLY religion that respects other religions, they all respect each other, don't you think..? As for peace, you should then be at peace with all other religions of the world. Peace be with you!
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 Brother, Islam is the only religion that makes it compulsory for its followers (in its Holy Book) to not only respect other religions but also accept the truthfulness of all the prophets who came and originated these religions. A Muslim is not a Muslim if he only believes Prophet Muhammad but rejects the truthfulness of Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Abraham, Jesus so on and so forth. We as Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is striving for real peace wherever we exist. Peace be on you too!
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
Islam peace does not make sense but only peace does to all humans. So why insist on >Islam peace and justice and freedom.....Only Islam has these things...? How ridiculous... You mean that no other humans have found those things, then you must be quite innocent and not so well documented....
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 As I said earlier, it is only to raise awareness among general public about the true essence of Islamic teachings (considering the fact that there are grave misconceptions about the religion of Islam among non-Muslims because of the actions of some). Islam actually is the only religion that not only respects all other religions but also makes it compulsory for its followers to accept the truth of the respective prophets. So to us all religion originally taught nothing but peace!
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
Muslim Peace means nothing but peace yes. Anyone in his right mind would know what peace is all about. No need to make it Islamic, Islam is not the only peacemaker in the world....but rather seems to do the reverse in many places...
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
This all fine to quote from any sacred book, the important thing is to put it in practice. The West has something called "freedom of speech and freedom of expression" and that's why you can see these words on London buses, you should not take everything that you read so seriously, the English are like that and they know what this all means, anyone can post anything, and say anything...if it hurts you, take a distance and a wider view at life and you will discover even more than you ever expected
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 The purpose of this campaign was not to say that it is only Islam that is the peacemaker. The real purpose of this campaign is only to raise awareness among people that it is not religion (especially Islam that is widely misunderstood) that is the cause of all the wars and conflicts. Islam teaches its followers to be peacemakers. We must not let these extremists affect relationship between different communities. You are right without practice, words mean nothing...
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
...and this is the reason why worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has always strived for peace wherever they have been. Please listen to these non-Muslim dignitaries of the world (who know us well) talking about Ahmadiyya Muslim Community: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
Thank you for your response and it is, I think only part of the reality, because, I believe that humans still try tirelessly to stop conflicts arounde the world and this is a good attitude to notice as well. Vested interest have always been there and in spite of this, there are people who fight to end conflicts (contradictory indeed to "fight to end a conflict, hope you understand what I mean..), who do not want any fame yet work for the needy and the oppressed..hope is always present.
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
Sorry about this, I did not mean to be rude at all and I apologize to you if I did hurt you.
Concerning your question about a definition of peace, I think that anyone could go to a good dictionary and find a definition that is accepted by all. No need to call on God or Buddha to find a definition. When two people are quarelling or two nations at war, then a human and natural reaction is to stop the conflict. Why? Because we all prefer peace to war or conflict . Do you have a better definition.?
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 No offence taken brother. You are right that when we see two people quarrelling or two nations at war, the natural human reaction is to stop the conflict. Despite this, we see that this doesn't always happen. Vested/national/political interests come in the way and we start ignoring the sufferings of others. We become selfish and even become cause of conflicts and wars. We start usurping the rights of others because by doing so, we are at "peace". This is the reality...
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
...Justice for all is the only way peace can truly prevail in the world. Holy Quran says: "O ye who believe! be strict in observing justice, and be witnesses for Allah, even though it be against yourselves or against parents and kindred. Whether he be rich or poor, Allah is more regardful of them both than you are. Therefore follow not low desires so that you may be able to act equitably. And if you conceal the truth or evade it, then remember that Allah is well aware of what you do." 4:135/136
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
If you are still searching for a meaning of peace, you should go back to school or read your "sacred book" again. Or maybe English is not your mother tongue...?
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 Is this what you call peace? Speaking to others in this way who you don't even know personally is peace to you? My understanding of it is quite different than this. If one can't even be courteous to others when addressing then all their calls for peace etc. are nothing but hollow slogans. You asked me a question and I genuinely wanted a reply from you for a decent discussion. It is unfortunate that you responded in this way. It was quite uncalled for.
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
What is "Islamic peace" different with peace understood by all of us...Any difference at all....?
jdemeulenaer123 10 months ago
@jdemeulenaer123 What is your definition of peace and how do you understand it?
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
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Abdul4691 11 months ago
@Abdul4691 Islam is not there to "rule" but to do nothing at all
jdemeulenaer123 9 months ago
@Abdul4691 Islam came to rule the hearts of people and not just mere lands. Swords can sever heads but it can't change the hearts. It is the heart that the beautiful teachings of Islam changes. Islam will continue to spread and rule the hearts with love, understanding, tolerance, peace and harmony insha Allah.
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
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dharmastipulate 1 year ago
The truth is that a powerful bad spirit started Islam .. a disgruntled 2nd in command who was originally helpiing a false christ establish a religion based on Jesus . so they went to war on earth and in heaven .. and it is still going on ... Both Christians and those of the Muslim faith need to start being attuned to the love of the Unversal Spirit .. and stop hanging on every word of their false bibles .. Trust the Great Spirit within instead...peace out ..
kagiso3741 1 year ago
@kagiso3741 We don't need to go back 1400 years to see which "spirit" started Islam. Lets see what true Islam can do in this age of injustice, selfishness, intolerance and hate: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
This alone should be a proof enough to find that Islam is nothing but a Divine religion for the good of humanity.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago 6
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malsia3000 1 year ago
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I believe in no god but Allah and Muhammed was his Prophet
I pray for the human race to be forgiven and spared hell
albaniaismylife 1 year ago
@albaniaismylife This bus campaign was all sponsored by Ahmadiyya Muslim community UK branch. We are also reaching every doorstep in the UK and distributing the leaflet explaining the true values of Islam. ie. peace, loyalty to ones' country, and tolerance. We hope to bridge the gap that is building between Muslims and non-Muslims because of ignorance and misunderstandings. Sorry, I didn't understand your comment that you believe in no God but Allah and Muhammad were his messengers.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI It is rather you who has to lower their voices. And who has to talk in peace. I tried to do that, but you don't seem to understand it.
kami645464 1 year ago
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@kami645464 sweet poison that's what you lot are
HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI So, there is no human that can decide upon other peoples' religions. If people say they are Muslims and believe in the Kalima "Noone is worthy of worship except Allah and Mohammad is his Prophet and Messenger", then you can't call him a non-Muslim. No matter if he drinks alcohol, eats pork, commits adultery, kills people,...
That person will stay a Muslim until he believes in the statement above. Everything else will be judged by Allah after our deaths and can't be judged by a human.
kami645464 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI No1 has the right to call someone a non-Muslim if he himself believes he is a Muslim. There was an incident at the time of Mohammad (saw), when in a war one sahaba killed an enemy, although the enemy said the Kalima Shahada in the final moments because he could see his death. Still that sahaba decided to kill him. Prophet Muhammad was very upset when he heard about that. Why? Because that person that said the Kalima was a Muslim from that instant. No matter what the reason was.
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI That doesn't mean they are kafirs. Get your facts right. How many times you want me to repeat myself. No human has the right to call another a kafir. It is God and only God that will decide. We believe in the Kalima Shahada = we are Muslims. This is sufficient to be a Muslim. Furthermore we pray 5 times a day, read the same Qur'an, believe in the same Prophet(s). What makes you think we are kafirs?
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Even if Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not the Imam Mahdi, that doesn't mean we are kafirs.
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI You don't even have enough knowledge about Ahmadis. I'm sure some next non-Muslim Mullah told you all this. If you wanna know about Ahmadis, why don't you go visit an Ahmadi Mosque instead of going to your own mosque, where you will be only told lies about us.
We are fully following the Islam that the Prophet Muhammad (saw) brought to us. What are you on about?
If your belief was really that strong, you would have some answers to my questions.
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Yeah then go to your non-Muslim Mullahs who will keep spreading lies about us. Then you can't talk anything. You can't say nothing. You don't know anything. You have absolute 0 knowledge about Ahmadiyyat. How can you find the true path yourself, if you are not going to different sects and ask for their believes? How can you be sure that your belief is correct?
How stupid is that? You have to go around to different mosques of different sects to find the right path.
kami645464 1 year ago
@habbadou This alone shows the difference between Ahmadi Muslims and non-Ahmadi Muslims. Clearly Ahmadi Muslims are spreading the true meaning of Islam, which is PEACE. Did you not see how many people were killed on May 28 in Lahore? What did we do after that? Did we burn any cars, buses, mosques? Did we practise any violence against those who attacked us? 85+ (!) people were killed, it wasn't a small thing. And yet did we Ahmadis do ANYTHING? This clearly shows who is practising the true Islam.
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI You are simply not answering to my points. Just because you didn't have any answers to my questions, you are leaving. OK. May Allah show the world that Ahmadiyyat is the true Islam and that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the true Imam Mahdi. Ameen. True ISLAM = PEACE, Ahmadiyya Islam = PEACE
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI So according to what you believe, there won't be ANY Imam Mahdi, because you will simply not accept any. If (nauzubillah) Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a liar, then whoever will come after him and declare himself as the Imam Mahdi, who would believe them? Whoever will claim to be the Imam Mahdi, people like you will never accept them anyway, no matter if the signs come true or not. You kind of people will NEVER believe anyone.
kami645464 1 year ago
freindly advice... take all the arguments to your msg inbox.... ppl don't have to see your arguements
huslette 1 year ago
@huslette Why don't people have to see our arguments, may I ask? Those who don't want to see the arguments, they are not forced to see them here.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Which "straight path" do you want Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam to follow? Bring the issues one by one and we will discuss them in light of Quran and hadith, Quran being the first and ultimate source of guidance. May Allah always keep us on the striaght path.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI I think you mean Ahmadi Muslims, because Qadianis are the people who belong to the village of Qadian, India. Anyway, many enemies of Islam declare Islam to be satan in disguise, but does it change the facts?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya so true!
kami645464 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Listen: No human has the right to call another human a kafir. It is God and only God who can decide and he will decide. What you should rather pray is: May Allah give the Ahmadis what they deserve, whether it is reward or punishment. Who are you to decide?
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Well, almost every single sect of Muslims today has issued fatwa against the other sect. That makes every single sect of Islam today non-Muslim. There doesn't remain anything to talk about after that, does it?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI This alone shows the difference between Ahmadi Muslims and non-Ahmadi Muslims. We are spreading the TRUE meaning of Islam, which is PEACE. You however calling others 'pigs' is completely the opposite. So you can't even say anything here.
kami645464 1 year ago
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HINDAAWI 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Keep repeating the same thing. This argument is getting nowhere. You don't have any points. You are not answering my questions. And your attitude and way of talking makes me believe you are not even a Muslim. Look at the difference. Wake UP! Look what happened on 28 May 2010. What did Ahmadis do against that? Did we protest? Did we take revenge? Did we block roads? Did we bomb cars? This is the true Islam = PEACE! This should show you and anybody out there a moral difference in us.
kami645464 1 year ago
@HINDAAWI Fatwah of Jews against Jesus was also official, and this is the reason why he was sentenced to be put on the cross by the Roman authorities. Did it change the facts in the eyes of Allah. In response to your "Islamic" language towards us, I would say what Quran teaches me: "And the servants of the Gracious God are those who walk on the earth in a dignified manner, and when the IGNORANT address them, they say, ‘PEACE!’" (25:63/64) To you your way and to me mine!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me.
(Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Muatta')
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 Despite that hadith, these are also the words of Holy Prophet: "Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet." (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138) This shows that the prophethood that was closed by Allah after Holy Prophet was only lawbearing prophethood outside the ummah of Holy Prophet (pbuh).
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
U can call yourseves qadianis or ahmeddiyah but dont call yourselves muslims its an insult to us Muslims. OK forget about me the whole Muslim world is calling you kafir... The 1974 Declaration of The Muslim World League
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 What difference does it make in the eyes of Allah even if the whole world rejects a true prophet of Allah and His followers? So even if your so called "Muslim world League" rejected us, it would only confirm our truthfulness even more. Did not Holy Prophet warn us of the time in the Muslim ummah when 72 sects had to on one side and the 73rd on one true path? Did he not resemble all the 72 sects with the 72 sects of Jews of the time of Jesus? Thank you for mentioning that!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya SubhanAllah! That is the incorrect interpretation of that Hadith.
You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. Qur'an, 109:06.
Look I dont mean to turn this into some hateful speech and if i've offended you then forgive me, but i sincerely advise you to look beyond Qadianism/Ahmeddiyah. I know your not an idiot Allah SWT has blessed us all with akal & intellect. So sincerely ask Allah for guidance. May Allah guide us all to the straight path... Ameeen!
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 You are absolutely right, Allah has given us all Aql and intellect and Allah Almighty repeatedly instructs us in the Quran to use it as well, and this is exactly the reason why I believe Ahmadiyya understanding of Islam as the most true and purest. You have advised me to see beyond Ahmadiyyat. Do you have a better version of Islam on offer? If you have, let me know, we can discuss that in detail in light of Holy Quran and Prophet (PBUH), Quran being the ultimate source of guidance!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Islam is a pure Deen which Allah SWT has preserved in its prestigious form and shall continue to do so till the Day Of Judgement, Nor me or anyone else can change this fact. Islam came in one form and that was the Deen revaeled to the Prophet Muhammad SAW, and His Noble Sahabah Radi Allahu anhuma. Today me and you have our own perception of Islam, this is why we must ask Almighty Allah to guide us with a sincere heart.
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 There is no doubt that Islam is the pure Deen and no harm has reached the religion itself. If you are however saying the state of Muslims today is as prestine as it was 1400 years ago, then you are lying! Islam is left only in name but not in deeds. I don't want to go into detail of this as any fair minded person can see it. Holy Prophet himself prophecied about the coming of Imam Mahdi in this age. You might be following Islam of your "own perception", I however follow Imam Mahdi!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya May Guide us All... Ameen.
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 Ameen, but once again, I would advise you to work on your own advice. ie. using ones' God given Aql and intellect to find the truth. You did give ask me to see beyond Ahmadiyyat to find the truth, but didn't give me a better option. I take from that you are yourself confused about the true path. In that case you should pray to Allah yourself with pure, unprejudiced and unbiased heart rather than wasting your time, energy and above all your faith in attacking Ahmadiyya Jamaat.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
Good video
UKfightback 1 year ago
@UKfightback Thank you for appreciating this video. Wassalam (and peace be with you)
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya My pleasure mate, I've got several Ahmadi friends and the fight against extremism could never be more important - much more of this kind of campaigning please
UKfightback 1 year ago
@UKfightback Lovely to hear from you brother. Consider me as your another Ahmadi friend. May Allah be with you and yours. Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
yo brother every one knows that ahmadiyas have left the fold of islam and are kuffars!!! ur not a muslim m8 full stop. how stupid can u guys get oh allah guide the ummah of our beloved prophet mohammed pbuh. p.s ur leader died in the toilet that explains every think.
Tabligh786 1 year ago
@Tabligh786 Jews cliamed that Jesus (their Messiah) and his followers were out of fold of Judaism. They also claimed that Jesus died an accursed death. Compare your claims as a non-Ahmadi Muslim about Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Promised Messiah) with that of the Jews of the time of Jesus. Do you see any similairity? Well this similarity of Muslims of today with Jews of the time of Jesus was prophecied by no other than Holy Prophet himself more than 1400 years ago. Ponder and Fear Allah!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
Mashalla, this is very beatifull, i am a very proud ahmadi from Norway. Peace be upon you
donshery 1 year ago
LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE
nameless143 1 year ago
You KAFIRRRRRRRRRRRRZ..... YOU FITNA MONGRERS..... YOU REBELS....
CUM 2 BIRMINGHAM CENTRAL MASJID ON 11 JULY 2010 WERE GOING TO EXPOSE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!! Insha'Allah Ta'ala!
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 what time i'll be there and who is speaking
bmw525sport 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 did you know looking down at someone is haram in islam? and calling someone "kafir" is indeed a even bigger sin?
donshery 1 year ago
@donshery Did you know... That to doubt that qadianis are kuffar can lead you to kuffar??? You should only call someone kafir if you know 100% that they are kafir, there is absolutely no doubt that qadianis are kuffar...
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 Whatever!!!!
You dumb extremist. lol
TheFreeForever 1 year ago
@TheFreeForever What's wrong wiv u man u wana prove sumthing on youtube?
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 Nothing's wrong with me, it's just that you guys should let people believe whatever they want and not kill an innocent person because of their beliefs.
TheFreeForever 1 year ago
@TheFreeForever @donshery Did you know that Qadianis say that every Muslim who believes in all the Prophets of Allah SWT but deny that Mirza (May he be distant from The Mercy Of Allah) was a prohphet than they are kafir. SubhanAllah I call someone who is an open kafir a kafir and everyone jumps on me and asks me why.
If anyone here doubts that Qadiani are kafir than i fear for your Imaan. Oh and when and where did i say i was going to kill Innoncent people???
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 Jesus (a jew) came to the Jews preaching the Mosaic Law but the jews rejected him as treated him as liars. Now the question ill ask u is simple, eventhough they were jews (same as Jesus), could it be said that by rejecting Jesus they were still believers? NO.
Now, Mirza Sahib, a true Prophet of Allah and a muslim came to the muslims and he is treated as a liar. Can u consider urself a believer? NO
So u r a kafir. :-)
sadjid19 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 No they don't!!!!
You very ignorant and I never said YOU were going to murder someone (although you might because of your extremist views), I said your sect is killing Ahmadi's.
In Pak you treat them like animals when really you guys are the true animals!!!!
Check out the link below to see what your scumbag colleagues do in Pak to Ahmadi'.
rabwah (.) net/ category/ news/
TheFreeForever 1 year ago
@TheFreeForever I'm Ignorant? OK look down at the comment of sadjid19 and tell me what he is saying.. He is not only doing takfir of me but also the whole UMMAH! You got a Problem with what they do in Pakistan??? Yeah? OK Then talk to them about it not me, i neither care nor support what they do, I'm trying to make clear the beliefs of Real Muslims before these enemies of Islam cause more Fitnah than they already have. May ALLAH crush their efforts... AMEEEN!
UR CHOICE BETWEEN ISLAM AND KUFR.
ALTEY12345 1 year ago
@ALTEY12345 Simple question for you. What is the verdict of Quran on somebody who rejects even a single prophet of Allah? What is the verdict of a person who will reject Imam Mahdi of your understanding when he comes? Ther term Kafir literally means the one who rejects. Would you call somebody who rejects a prophet of Allah a "Momin" (believer)? Secondly unlike yourself and your "ulema" we don't waste our time and energy calling those who don't adhere to our beliefs Kafirs.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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Ahmadiyaat Zindabad
waqiahmed2 1 year ago
Islam is false and the claim you make is deceptive, Islam cannot be peaceful as long as you follow quran. Quran ask the Muslim believers not to take Jews and Christians as friends and they got to fight every last Jew. Freedom -what freedom you give if anyone want to leave Islam you Kill them and force minority to follow Islam..stop spreading your lies..
JensenJoseph2008 1 year ago
@Jensen I hope that what you have said is out of ignorance to the teachings of Quran and not out of your internal prejudices. Quran only forbids to befriend those who fight you because of your faith. Allah says: "Allah ONLY forbids you, respecting those who have FOUGHT against you on account of your RELIGION, and have driven you OUT of your homes, and have HELPED OTHERS in driving you out, that you make friends of them, and whosoever makes friends of them it is these that are the transgressors."
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Surely I have not expressed my view out of ignorance or out of prejudice. the truth is Islam is a violent religion , what do you say about sura 5:51 Don't take Christians and Jews as friends(befriending).Sura 2:216 fight is obligatory.sura 2:190fight the idolatry. so many verses I can quote which is in your book. Muslims often quote testament verse to justify your book, let me tell you Christians follow Christ and his teaching and that is to love your enemies..
JensenJoseph2008 1 year ago
@JensenJoseph2008 As I tried to explain to you earlier that befriending is only fobidden with those "Christian" and "Jews" who impose wars against the Muslims for their faith or help eachother for this evil act. For the rest Quran says: "Allah forbids you NOT, respecting those who have NOT fought against you on account of your RELIGION, and who have NOT driven you forth from your homes, that you be KIND to THEM and act EQUITABLY towards them; surely Allah loves those who are EQUITABLE." (60:8/9)
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...as for the 2:190/191, this is the full verse: "And fight in the cause of Allah against THOSE who fight against YOU, but DO NOT transgress. Surely, Allah loves NOT the TRANSGRESSORS." Permission to fight is only against those who have imposed war against you on account of your religion. What is wrong about this teaching? How would you respond if somebody enters your home and takes your children hostage God forbid and starts killing them one by one? Would you present other cheek as well?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...as for the (2:190/191), this is the full verse: "And fight in the cause of Allah against THOSE who fight against YOU, but DO NOT transgress. Surely, Allah loves NOT the TRANSGRESSORS." Permission to fight is only against those who have imposed war against you on account of your religion. What is wrong about this teaching? How would you respond if somebody enters your home and takes your children hostage God forbid and starts killing them one by one? Would you present other cheek as well?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
This is a wonderful thing, thank you!
The way the Ahmadiyyas are persecuted in Turkey is horrifying.
I applaud your message!
Like the Zoroastrians say...Good Words - Good Thoughts - Good Deeds.
You have done well in posting this!
iammready 1 year ago
@iammready Jazak Allah (may Allah reward you) for appreciating this message brother. Zoroaster was a Prophet of Allah who came in Persia and as Allah Almighty says in the Quran that "He has sent warners/prophets to every nation of the world", Zoroaster (pbuh) was one of such prophets for the people of persia of his time who came to guide them to the true God Almighty. Thank you once again for your kind words. Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
I have just come across this and it is all very multicultural and good
... but have we yet received any sort of apology from anyone for the outrage in our streets and subsequent period of uncertainty for the British travelling public, when a bus was blown up on 7/7/05 killling innocent men and women, apparently in the name of this same religion ??
dunavuk 1 year ago
@dunavuk Brother/Sister, Murderers have no religion. A murderer will find any excuse to commit murder. Some would do it in the name of religion and others would find some other excuse. We must not get into their trap by thinking that their beastly acts are the result of their religion. This is exactly what they want you to think. If you watch my other videos you will see that Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has been condemning this beastly behaviour in the name of Islam for the last 120 years...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...the Founder of this worldwide community wrote over the century ago the following: "I know for certain that the burden of the sins of those people who commit murders through ignorance on account of such (religious) preachings, and who are unaware of the reason why Islam had to fight battles in its early stages, lies on the necks of these maulvis (clergy) who go on propagating secretly these dangerous doctrines which result in such grievous loss of life." then he wrote...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
..."I have brought you a commandment, which is that Jehad with the sword has been ended but the Jehad of the purification of your spirits must continue to be waged. I say this not on my own but in order to proclaim the design of God. Reflect on the hadees of Bukhari wherein it is stated that the Promised Messiah would put an end to fighting for the faith. Accordingly I command those who have joined my ranks that they should discard all such notions...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...They should purify their hearts and foster their mercy and should have sympathy for the afflicted. They should spread peace on the earth, for this would cause their faith to spread"
So this is the teaching of true Islam. Religion has always been exploited by people inside and outside particular faiths. Just read history and see how mercilessly people were brutally murdered in the name of Christianity during Spanish Crusades. All religions teach us the same human values. May Allah be with u.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Then your message is indeed very important for us to realise here in London, that there is a vast majority of good people in your religion as, hopefully, in all walks of life.
dunavuk 1 year ago
@dunavuk Your comment shows your own internal honesty and decency too. You felt something genuinenly and posted your feelings here in my comments section and when I explained to you the true essence of my religion, you very kindly appreciated those words. Thank you for that. You are most welcome to ask me any questions that still might agitate your mind. I would try to answer them to the best of my humble abilities. Take care and Wassalam (and peace be on you)
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
Deutschland sollte das auch machen
Ahmadiya zindabad
dinnersbruder 1 year ago
@ever1ast If Ahmadiyya is really has nothing to do with Islam and it is nothing but "evilness" then you don't have to worry about anything. It will die its own natural death. God will help the "true" followers of Islam and Ahmadiyyat will be destroyed by Allah. If on the contrary it is truly from God then no warning of yours will have any effect on the progress of this Divine Community. Just like the enemies of Islam warned the people to stay away from that "evilness" you are doing the same!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya "Just like the enemies of Islam warned the people to stay away from that "evilness" you are doing the same!" <----------------- The only difference with your statement here is that you are the enemy of Islam. However as long as you are still alive you still have time to repent and ask Allah to guide you to the truth.
1udacri5 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya The only difference is everyone knows you are the true enemies of Islam who have always been funded by the British in order to misguide and try to destroy the Ummah. You still have time to repent and ask Allah to guide you to Islam before it's to late.
1udacri5 1 year ago
@1udacri5 How convenient for you to say we are the product of the British. That makes your life so easy, doesn't it. The amazing thing is that if we are the product of the British then why did the British created something that destroyed the very foundations of their religion of Christianity? Christianity today is based on the very belief that Jesus died on the cross, Promised Messiah proved it from Bible itself that Jesus survived this accursed death on the cross. How foolish of the "British"!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@ever1ast If Ahmadiyya has nothing to do with Islam and it is all evil, you don't have to worry about anything. If it is the truth really and you have a mentality of todays corrupt Mullahs then you have to worry about everything. By the way your "warning" reminds us of the enemies of Islam at the time of Holy Prophet (pbuh). They also "warned" the people not to join Islam as according to them it was nothing but "evilness". Your statement however would do nothing to harm the community of God!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
AHMADIYYA = EVIL = PAT TO HELL....
Sikandirt 1 year ago
@Sikandirt Since when did you get the authority from God to make decisions on His behalf as to who is hellbound and who is heaven bound. Stop acting in an evil way and start fearing God. Be concerned about your own end rather than making judgements on others.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya
ähh...yes IT IS IN FACT WAY TO HELL....your "Messiah" the Hobby Reincarnation of Krishna, Buddha, Jesus & Imam Mahdi...Blasphemy....ISA (s.a.v) will come and our leader too...by the way how did your Ghulam Mirza die...in Shit...looolll...revert to the TRuth of real Islam..leave your diabolic SecT!!!!
Sikandirt 1 year ago
@Sikandirt First of all Promised Messiah never claimed to be the "REINCARNATION" of those earlier prophets? He only said that he has come in the spirit, likeness and character of these earlier prophets. One who dies never comes back. For once try to take your information from right sources. If Quran declares Allah's hand to be that of Holy Prophet's, does that mean that God forbid Holy Prophet became reincarnation of Allah? With regards to your comment about Promised Messiah's so called...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...accursed death God forbid, don't forget Jews also claimed that Jesus (the first Messiah) died an accursed death. Muslims like yourself today claim that Promised Messiah died an accursed death God forbid. Both claims of Jews and Muslims of today are based on conjecture without any true knowledge on the subject. Holy Prophet however did prophecy of today's Muslims who had to resemble with Jews of the time of Jesus like a pair of shoes. You have just fulfilled the prophecy of Holy Prophet!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
Well it all looks very nice but the Koran says kill all the non believers, and Choudary and his followers who now have Sharia Law in some areas and want complete Sharia over the UK. The ones I have seen say FReedom Go To Hell and the final Jihad is about to happen in Europe. So this must be another ploy for a feeling of well being for the time being.
Monarchoflos 1 year ago
@Monarchoflos Where does it say in the Quran that KILL ALL the NON-BELIEVERS? Also what do you understand by the term Shariah? If some people want their barbaric interpretation of Shariah in their towns or cities, I can't say anything about their behaviour. Those who carry stupid placards like "freedom go to hell" or things like that should be sent to places where they are deprived of their freedoms. I can't say anything about such nutcases. To see what Islam is watch this: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@Monarchoflos That's because you are the product of the media's way to brainwash people, so no Muslim blames you for your way of thinking. It's time you opened your mind like thousands of British are doing who have studied Islam and have embraced it with open arms as there very own.
1udacri5 1 year ago
IA : You have to know that NOT all that banned and forbidden must be RIGHT !
Jesus Christ has completed His task as the Messiah by saying : IT'S FINISHED !
There we need neither Muhammad nor Mirza Ghulam Ahmad nor .... people that has and will come to self-claim as the Messiah. So, Jesus that all we need as the Messiah for has completing the job. Jesus warned us to be careful with the False Prophets.
antabaranta 1 year ago
antabaranta, If Jesus really said "its finished", then it was to suggest that he was the awaited Jewish Messiah and that he was the last of the Israelite prophets. With his coming, the long chain of Jewish prophets came to an end. He did however himself prophecied about the coming of Holy Prophet, and also his "second" coming. Just like John the Baptist was the "second coming" of Elijah in his likeness and character, second coming of Jesus has taken place in person of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya, there is no where in the Holy Bible that the second coming of Jesus Christ would be taken place in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (India). Not even Muhammad (Arab). Not even Prophet Joseph Smith (USA). and other 'prophets'.
Jesus was not only the last of the Israelite prophets but of all nations and humankind. Because of Jesus salvation for ALL nations.
antabaranta 1 year ago
antabaranta, Nowhere in the OT did ever it was mentioned that second coming of Elijah had to take place in person of John the Baptist but still Jesus himself declared so. Why do you believe that then if you always go by the scriptures literally word by word? Jesus was only sent for the 12 tribes of Israel and he made it quite clear himself. If people like Paul after Jesus' migration and natural death put their words in Jesus' mouth and associated things with him then I can't say much about them!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya, John the Baptist confirmed by Jesus Christ, both from Israel !
Who did confirm Muhammad, Ghulam Ahmad and Joseph Smith ?
Read the whole chapter, you will learn that Jesus eventually save that CANAAN (non Israel) woman and ALL NATIONS - by FAITH.
antabaranta 1 year ago
anta, What about those millions of ISRAELITES who rejected Jesus and his word that Elijah had come back in the person of John the Baptist?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya. There will be always the unbelievers among the believers.
The point is, that Elijah was confirmed by another prophet Jesus Christ both from Israel. Again, who did confirm the prophecy of Muhammad, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Joseph Smith ?
All self-claimed ! Jesus warned us already to be aware of The False Prophets !
antabaranta 1 year ago
anta, My understanding of God differs quite a lot from yours. To me God is not a Racist. He doesn't give preference to one nation over the others. So in the eyes of God Africans, Arabs, Asians, Whites, so on and so forth have as much chance of getting God's grace as much as the the Israelites. This reward of prophethood remained with the Israelites for as long as they kept the commands of God intact with them. The moment they deviated from the path of God, God's grace was also lifted from them.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...So the God who sent Jesus is the same God that sent Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. No one nation has the monopoly over God! To you and me Jesus was a true prophet of God, but to Jews he was also a "self-claimed" Messiah. So if in your eyes, Prophet Muhammad and Promised Messiah are self-claimed prophets then there is nothing surprising. You have yourself professed that there will always be the unbelievers among the believers.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya : The same God that sent Prophet Joseph Smith ?
True, no one nation has the monopoly over God as confirmed by Jesus Christ.
Jesus was claimed as Promised Messiah and Prophet not by HIMSELF but by prophet John the Baptist.
antabaranta 1 year ago
anta, There were many false prophets but Jesus just like other prophets and their scriptures gave signs about the true Messiah, watch this video: /watch?v=JXGCq78mxP8
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya: Jesus confirmed IT'S FINISHED ! His salvation is perfect.
Jesus died on the cross as written by/or guided by eyewitness. Muhammad,Ghulam Ahma,Joseph Smith weren't/not guided by the eyewitness. Only heard or read the history hundreds or thousands of years after.
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta As I have already explained Jesus was the last of the Israelite prophets and the last one for the Jews. So it was finished. Salvation of God for the Jews of his time was only possible through accepting him. Every prophet when is sent by God comes for the guidance of of his respective people and those who reject a true prophet close their doors and make it very difficult for themselves to get salvation. Lets discuss Jesus' apparant "death" on the cross. Everything will go against you
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...we will discuss the four gospels in their proper contexts and see how it was not possible for Jesus to have died such an ACCUURSED death on the cross. Those who apparantly suggested that Jesus died, were only onlookers. There were no doctors to confirm his death. Pilate never wanted Jesus to die on the cross, Jesus didn't stay on the cross for too long, his legs were also spared to be broken, his body was handed over to his SECRET DESICPLE, he even corrected his own disciples that...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...he was NOT his own (Jesus') spirit/ghost rather the same Jesus they saw before crucifixion. There are so many things that I can say here, but lets leave it here. Jesus even prophecied about his own survival from the death on the cross. This is all recorded in NT. Whichever name you call your God with, you are calling the same one God. This is the teaching of Quran and Islam. I have no problem with whichever good name you call God with. There is only one God. May Allah guide you.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya : It is me have explained you that Jesus was the lsraelite prophets and the last one for the Jews and THE WORLD - ALL NATIONS. It's Finished ! Period ! As I mentioned Muhammad and Ghulam Ahmad were not nor guided by eyewitness. So, what did they and nowaday Muslim know about Jesus. They only knew and know half-baked story !
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta Jesus wan't the LAST ever prophet. He in addition to earlier prophets and their scriptures actually themselves prophecied about the coming of Holy Prophet Muhammad. Jesus was however last of the Israelite prophets and the Messiah for the Jews of his time. Well you might be guided by the "eyewitnesses" but to me its God who is the TRUE GUIDE. So the God who guided Jesus also guided the prophets before and after him to follow. Anyway, when NT is read carefully, in an unbiased way...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...it becomes very clear that Jesus DID NOT die that ACCURSED DEATH on the cross. Jesus actually hismelf prophecied about his survival from the accursed death on the cross.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya : Even His Death of the Cross had been prophecied by earlier prophets. The fact that neither Muhammad nor Ghulam Ahmad could not changed hundreds or thousands of years after.
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta Jesus himself prophecied about his survival from the death on the cross then how could prophets before him prophecy about his death. Give us the reference where he was apparantly prophecied to die on the cross. We will check the references in their proper context. We will read them carefully and critically.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya: Jesus never prophecied his survival in the Cross. Even much earlier John The Baptist alrady declared about Him : Behold THE LAMB OF GOD ?
Do you know what does mean JESUS IS THE LAMB OF GOD ? If not, contact a Christian Church near you. Except if you prefer being Stubborn just like some Jews at the time of Jesus.
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta Well Jesus did make it clear to the Jews that NO SIGN will be shown in his favour by God apart from that of Janah's. Sign of Jonah was that he survived the death against all odds. The sign of Jesus was also that he survived the death from the wounds he received during crucifixion. Just like Jonah continued his ministry even after his ordeal in the fish, Jesus also continued his ministry to the rest of the 10 tribes of Israel after his ordeal on the cross. Why don't you just...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...give us the reference where Jesus was prophecied by earlier prophets to DIE on the cross. We will look into the scripture carefully and in a critical way. Actually the "lamb" of God reference in Isaiah 53 doesn't talk about Jesus' death on the cross rather his SURVIVAL.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya : Muhammad, Ghulam Ahmad and Muslim today were not the eyewitness of the crucifixion. Even I told you already - Jesus did not speak Arabic.
After the crucifixion Jesus is risen from the death to confirm that death is not the end of everything. Jesus can give you an eternal life.
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta you was there??? hun???
nationaliste007 1 year ago
@nationaliste007 : That why we need the eyewitness or guided by eyewitness to write the book.
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta When we read the accounts of those eyewitnesses properly, in an unbiased and honest way, we come to the only one conclusion and that is that Jesus survived the death on the cross and migrated. God saved his chosen one from that accursed death on the cross.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya : Who were the eyewitness you are talking here ? The people in Arab Peninsula 600 years after ?
antabaranta 1 year ago
@antabaranta I am talking about the same NT that you infer your irrational beliefs to be going against your own beliefs. The eyewitnesses that according to you talked about Jesus' literal death, actually talk about his survival from this accursed death when the NT is read in an unbiased, rational and honest way.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@antabaranta As I said earlier, Jesus never DIED on the cross. You didn't mention the so called prophecy of Isaiah 53 about Jesus aparant DEATH on the cross. Where is the proof that Jesus literally rose from the literal accursed death on the cross. All the evidence proves otherwise when one looks everything in proper context and in an ubiased way. As I have already explained Jesus himself prophecied about his survival from the death on the cross when he compared his sign with that of Jonah's.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya: No prophecy about Muhammad and Ghulam Ahmad except as the False Prophets. GOD in Jesus Christ ir the TRUE GUIDE as HE is the true LIGHT OF THE W-O-R-L-D in real. Not just in imagination.
antabaranta 1 year ago
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@IslamAhmadiya : The same God that sent Prophet Joseph Smith ?
True, no one nation has the monopoly over God as confirmed by Jesus Christ.
Jesus was claimed as Promised Messiah and Prophet not by HIMSELF but by prophet John the Baptist.
antabaranta 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya : God is not racist, but HE chose Salvation and The Promised Messiah from Israel. That's why HE called Abraham-Isaac-Jacob - and their descendants like Moses to write HIS presence. Moses-Aaron-Joshua and others descendats wrote about their ancestors Abraham-Isaac-Jacob-Joseph and also before that like Noah-Job until Adam. God's grace now with ALL NATIONS through Jesus Christ. As HE saved that Canaan Woman, by faith, HE SAVES ALL NATIONS !
antabaranta 1 year ago
anta, God chose Jewish Messiah from Israel. He has sent prophets for the guidance of mankind to ever nation at different times of history according to Holy Quran. Jesus was just one of such true prophets of God who came for the guidance of Jewish people who had forgotten the true spirit of Judaism. This is the reason he made it clear that he hadn't come to abolish Mosaic law rather came to fulfill it. He was a Jew who was made a true prophet of Allah.How does he save?He didn't even die on cross
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago