Probably, a lot of guys could not imagine what hard it would be...we in south america, have seen a lot of rural bandits and they were not as bad as official history try them to appear... it has been a very complicated story, but what a great song... we have all left our souls in this scene... perhaps a better analysis is needed, but the feelings are great. greetings to all warriorrs that never surredender!
@dysplasticrome0 Agreed...........The only time Henry Fonda played a villain. Directed by Sergio Leone, who directed my favorite gangster film...."Once upon a time in America".
@radabon Both versions are good....although I agree the original was better....I think Axl Rose, in his version, was trying to say something about a hard living "rock and roller" getting older and feeling his mortality...
All of the idiots who accused Peckinpah of misogyny and relying too much on violence should watch this scene and then stfu forever. The pain in Coburn's face at having to kill again is one of the most subtly powerful things I've ever seen in a film.
Bwuahahaha I just saw your comment! Let me grasp "superficially educated". Oh you mean specific? Pompous? Yes I tend to type those specific comments in the....you ready for it? The comment section.
This is the scene that stays with me when I think of the film. Slim Pickens and Katy Jurado say it all without saying anything. My favorite western along with Lonesome Dove.
This is probably the best scene of the whole film but really its not that great as a whole. Compared to alfredo garcia or wild bunch it doesn't match up. Plus Bob Dylan is terrible in it even if he symbolises something.
@hej2iscool in the olde days, you crapped in a bucket and threw it out a window.
in the olde days, horse shit was everywhere on the streets---which is also something they don't show in westerns.
in the olde days, if you had to get your leg or arm cut off during the war, they just got you drunk, and you passed out from the pain on the operating table, cause there wasn't any anesthiacs.
In my opinon best ten Westerns of all time not in any order 1) Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 2) True Grit 2011 3) The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 4) For a Fistful of Dollars 5) For a Few Dollars more 6) Hangmans Knot 7) Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid 8) Hang Em High 9) True Grit 1969 10) Red River
@Colton8646 If you haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West, you should. Not only is that my favorite western, but it's also my favorite movie. I would also throw in Unforgiven, the Wild Bunch, Shane, and the Outlaw Josey Wales into the mix. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was pretty spectacular to me too.
This scene should have been longer and the whole song played out. It's so emotional and you kind of feel gypped when it fades out so soon. Not to mention Dylan wrote it for this scene and the rest of the lyrics pertain to to it.
In my book this is one of the greatest movie's and soundtracks ever made. If you are either a western or Bob Dylan fan please do yourself a favor and see this movie.
@LFL84 I think the whole scene:lyrics, Pat looking regretful at HAVING to kill,the Bakers poigant looks of love and pain. To ME it all comes together to make one of the best scenes in all of film.
@themitch1966 you almost convinced me, and it does work well as a music video, within a poem of a movie--that Pat Garret is. I see the appeal but it is a bit heavy handed and obvious for me--ONLY compared to the original instrumental which for me does not subtract from the same depth and emotion you are getting from the scene. I don't need the added subtext to feel the moment. It is cool as hell though with the full Dylan song but I do not think matches the subtle poetry of the instrumental.
@LFL84 Now, keep in mind, I have only viewed it such as seen on this video. I am going to have to try and find it with out the lyrics and then compare.
@themitch1966 I just saw it on the big screen 2 weeks ago. It was bliss. But I would like to see THIS version though as well. It's a favorite film definitely and I am surprised there are various version. I guess another misunderstood masterpiece like Bladerunner.
@LFL84 ......you try to talk superior, but you're not fooling me...you're one of those superficially educated people that have a pompous attittude....loser!
Yes - I agree. And Slim has been belly shot and he and his lady both know he's gonna die. They say everything with their eyes after Slim wanders down by the water. It just rips your heart out.
@kamancheh I always thought Slim Pickens was a VERY under rated and under appreciated actor. You see this scene and think "How could he not have EVER won an Academy Award?". Of course, then you remember: The Academy voters are idiots. This scene is easily one of the top 5 films scenes of all time.
@azowipe1 I prefer the instrumental as well. Is that the 1988 version only?? Watching it now with the Dylan song and his vocals in the scene--it hits the nail on the head too pronounced. It's trying to tell us what the scene is about now. It feels like a Robert Zemeckis movie ;)
Wonderful!
kostestastevi 2 weeks ago
This is what God thinks about when he needs to cry.
drduke28 1 month ago
Probably, a lot of guys could not imagine what hard it would be...we in south america, have seen a lot of rural bandits and they were not as bad as official history try them to appear... it has been a very complicated story, but what a great song... we have all left our souls in this scene... perhaps a better analysis is needed, but the feelings are great. greetings to all warriorrs that never surredender!
dudkhalia 1 month ago
@rossrjensen I have seen all the Westerns you posted and "Once Upon a time in the West" has to be my all time favorite film!
dysplasticrome0 2 months ago
@dysplasticrome0 Agreed...........The only time Henry Fonda played a villain. Directed by Sergio Leone, who directed my favorite gangster film...."Once upon a time in America".
hippyblood4 1 month ago
Love Sam Peckinpah's films. I agree with Pretorious700's comment.
dysplasticrome0 2 months ago
@RichardElden you again retard
altoona701 2 months ago
@RichardElden ........Go buy a GaGa CD and go to your room.
ragtoprider01 3 months ago
This song is meant to sound like it's sung by a dying cowboy. Guns N' Roses is way way way off.
radabon 3 months ago
@radabon Both versions are good....although I agree the original was better....I think Axl Rose, in his version, was trying to say something about a hard living "rock and roller" getting older and feeling his mortality...
ShareTheMike 2 months ago
@ShareTheMike Well, when you put it that way...
radabon 2 months ago
Really beautiful. And Katy Jurado look so proud and she's a wonderful, brave woman.
Sieglinde84 3 months ago 3
All of the idiots who accused Peckinpah of misogyny and relying too much on violence should watch this scene and then stfu forever. The pain in Coburn's face at having to kill again is one of the most subtly powerful things I've ever seen in a film.
pretorious700 4 months ago 2
I finally saw this after many years of being curious but not enough to rent it. I wish I had seen this years ago, I love it.
curbArlecchino 4 months ago
Great charactrer actors.....James Coburn...Slim Pickens.....memorable....
nvet1953 4 months ago 2
anesthesia started being used in the early 1800s, but it wasn't something that could be used in the middle of nowhere of the wild west.
president garfield died in 1881, after being shot---but it was doctors putting their fingers in his wound to find the bullet that killed him.
a pbs documentary even noted how doctors would use dirty knives on patients that they used for autopsies.
the western BITE THE BULLET...taken from saying of biting something during a painful operation.
monk22yrs 4 months ago
One of the greatest film scenes ever... Period!
zombieswithcandy 5 months ago
Amazing, Thanks :)
1979berty 5 months ago
Bwuahahaha I just saw your comment! Let me grasp "superficially educated". Oh you mean specific? Pompous? Yes I tend to type those specific comments in the....you ready for it? The comment section.
LFL84 6 months ago
This is the scene that stays with me when I think of the film. Slim Pickens and Katy Jurado say it all without saying anything. My favorite western along with Lonesome Dove.
JPW1213 6 months ago
es una puta obra de arte...
juanfss 6 months ago
This is probably the best scene of the whole film but really its not that great as a whole. Compared to alfredo garcia or wild bunch it doesn't match up. Plus Bob Dylan is terrible in it even if he symbolises something.
carbine125 8 months ago
I wish i was in the army or lived in the old days, where you got killed in war, and returned glorious home, in a coffin :)
hej2iscool 8 months ago
@hej2iscool in the olde days, you crapped in a bucket and threw it out a window.
in the olde days, horse shit was everywhere on the streets---which is also something they don't show in westerns.
in the olde days, if you had to get your leg or arm cut off during the war, they just got you drunk, and you passed out from the pain on the operating table, cause there wasn't any anesthiacs.
such were the olde days.
monk22yrs 4 months ago
@monk22yrs How didn't they have anesthetics?
LOLwafflesPRODUCTION 4 months ago
@LOLwafflesPRODUCTION they weren't invented yet kid, were you born yesterday?
pretorious700 4 months ago
@pretorious700 Uh, how long ago are we talking here?
LOLwafflesPRODUCTION 4 months ago
Colton8646 8 months ago
@Colton8646 If you haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West, you should. Not only is that my favorite western, but it's also my favorite movie. I would also throw in Unforgiven, the Wild Bunch, Shane, and the Outlaw Josey Wales into the mix. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was pretty spectacular to me too.
rossrjensen 7 months ago
This scene should have been longer and the whole song played out. It's so emotional and you kind of feel gypped when it fades out so soon. Not to mention Dylan wrote it for this scene and the rest of the lyrics pertain to to it.
9nomni 9 months ago 2
I love how Richard Donner paid homage to this wonderfully poignant scene with the ending to Lethal Weapon 2. :)
lllDevilbytheDeedlll 9 months ago
Perfection
Derl30 9 months ago
Slim Pickens steals two movies with his dying scenes--this one and Dr. Strangelove.
anomie13 10 months ago 2
In my book this is one of the greatest movie's and soundtracks ever made. If you are either a western or Bob Dylan fan please do yourself a favor and see this movie.
sb2244 10 months ago
Great Acting one of the Best Westerns
m00se321 10 months ago
Have to say I prefer the 1988 cut, without the lyrics ...
azowipe1 1 year ago
@azowipe1 ....the lyrics make the scene...its not even close..
bobbya16 11 months ago 9
@bobbya16 if you think the lyrics make the scene then you must like your emotion and subtext spoon fed to ya.
LFL84 11 months ago
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@LFL84 ....hahha I see you are one of those superficially educated people that try to talk superior.....well you're not fooling me.....
bobbya16 11 months ago
@LFL84 I think the whole scene:lyrics, Pat looking regretful at HAVING to kill,the Bakers poigant looks of love and pain. To ME it all comes together to make one of the best scenes in all of film.
themitch1966 11 months ago 14
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LFL84 10 months ago
@themitch1966 you almost convinced me, and it does work well as a music video, within a poem of a movie--that Pat Garret is. I see the appeal but it is a bit heavy handed and obvious for me--ONLY compared to the original instrumental which for me does not subtract from the same depth and emotion you are getting from the scene. I don't need the added subtext to feel the moment. It is cool as hell though with the full Dylan song but I do not think matches the subtle poetry of the instrumental.
LFL84 10 months ago
@LFL84 Now, keep in mind, I have only viewed it such as seen on this video. I am going to have to try and find it with out the lyrics and then compare.
themitch1966 10 months ago
@themitch1966 I just saw it on the big screen 2 weeks ago. It was bliss. But I would like to see THIS version though as well. It's a favorite film definitely and I am surprised there are various version. I guess another misunderstood masterpiece like Bladerunner.
LFL84 10 months ago
@LFL84 ......you try to talk superior, but you're not fooling me...you're one of those superficially educated people that have a pompous attittude....loser!
inayellowsubmarine 6 months ago
@themitch1966
Yes - I agree. And Slim has been belly shot and he and his lady both know he's gonna die. They say everything with their eyes after Slim wanders down by the water. It just rips your heart out.
kamancheh 10 months ago
@kamancheh I always thought Slim Pickens was a VERY under rated and under appreciated actor. You see this scene and think "How could he not have EVER won an Academy Award?". Of course, then you remember: The Academy voters are idiots. This scene is easily one of the top 5 films scenes of all time.
themitch1966 10 months ago 4
@themitch1966
I concur ... however once in a while the voters surprise me and do a good job. Once in a while.
kamancheh 9 months ago
@bobbya16 Everything makes this scene
67sixtyseven67 6 months ago
@azowipe1 I prefer the instrumental as well. Is that the 1988 version only?? Watching it now with the Dylan song and his vocals in the scene--it hits the nail on the head too pronounced. It's trying to tell us what the scene is about now. It feels like a Robert Zemeckis movie ;)
LFL84 11 months ago
Thank you
Gaudiamusigitur 1 year ago