Second, the competition was supposed to be for the best handling car not the easiest driving. You have to be able to drive to take the Viper to it's limit. There are no computers to help you, except ABS. No car for $100K can be driven from your house to the track and back again and lay down the lap times that the ACR can. PERIOD! I've raced both the ACR and ACR-X and the only car better is the Viper Competition Coupe. Drive one before you post ignorant comments.
2 points that need to be made: First, on the production car issue: I ma in the car business and it IS a production car. The ACR is an equipment package anyone could have ordered on their Viper. My friend owns a Dodge dealership and they have sold at 30 or 40 2010 ACRs at their 1 dealership alone. They still have 7 or 8 remaining in inventory if you want one. Go to viperexchange to see what's available. One of his cars is the one that just broke the 'Ring record.
@dpollock70 Second, No ther car that costs $100K that can be driven from your house to the track and home again can come close to the ACR. Unless you have driven one you just can't understand. It is an amazing car on the track. I have raced bothe the ACR and ACR-X and the only thing better is a Viper Competition Coupe! The competition was for the best handling not the easiest to drive and with that said the Viper killed the lap times. The Viper is DEFINITELY the best handling car on the road.
Tester was honest and a good driver. He said it handles like a bull, it's brutal, it has no traction control. Yes, it would be fun to drive but a lot of people would crash it if they pushed it. At least you would be much safer pushing an R8 or M3. It's a car for the American market, you can't blame Chrysler for that. We'd all love to drive one but I'd probably buy a car that also handles like a real supercar.
Okay, In canada their are a couple of dealers with this car.. how have some of you idiots not heard of it? Oh wait, it's because when MERCEDES owned Chrysler they hushed the top of the line performance. Honestly, since Daimler took over Chrysler how many commercials have we seen of the Viper? Not many, I can't think of one. When Viper comes back in 2013, it will own the road and Fiat will allow Dodge to advertise that.
@Bduke1000 I love corvettes, I would take a z06 any day over any viper... However, there is no arguing with the facts. This viper owns any track you put it on. 7:12 is a fucking insane lap time.
@Asherr6 See, now that's just personal preference. And I don't blame you. I've been a Viper fan even before they were anything decent to talk about on the track. The Z06 and the ZR1 are both bad ass looking cars. Plus, I like classic muscle as well.. and the old stingrays are sweet. I drove a 69 stingray with a 454 big block. 1st into 2nd.. lit em up. 2nd into 3rd.. lights em up. 3rd into 4th... still lights em up.... with ease. Vettes are number 2 for me :p
Higher HP version, some light weight parts, no stereo and shit, pretty much a race car for the streets. Mercedes owned Dodge for the last 10+ yrs. That's why the Viper didn't get the recognition it should have. Idk how much you care but Chrysler is owned by a different company now. Soon we'll all know that it is and always was the best thing made from America the last 20 yrs
@NWA90s A Production car is any car built in a factory that builds and sells cars as their business. They will be a production facility. Regardless of how many are sold.
@halflife103 "A production car is any car built in a factory that builds and sells cars as their business"
Ferraris f1 factory(ies) have cranked out multiples of a single type of f1 car in a year at times- So by using your logic, some of ferraris f1 cars are "production cars" as well, right? Of course not. Whatd you do, google "what is a production car" and copy/paste the only thing you could find? I jest, I know this is what you did. (pt1)
@halflife103 (pt2) Production car is a very, very loose term at best. Theres a reason when you googled "what is a production car", you found so few "answers" to copy/paste. There is no official accepted definition for what a "production" car is. My joking example is proof of why your definition hardly holds water. Its very opinion based. That said i assure you nwa90s "opinion" is far from a singular example, nor even a minority standing, but rather a MAJORITY view.
@halflife103 (pt3) I for example, side with him and do NOT view the gumpert as a "Production car" in any way, shape, or form. To ME, "production car" implies some form of MASS production. The gumpert is, again to me, nothing more than a made-to-order toy- A concept car that got copied a few times to those who had more money than they knew what to do with. Going to take more than a few copies for most people to call something like that a "production" car.
@SidewaysGts So then for all of your comments explain to the people who run the Nurburgring that it is not a Production Car.
You have a lot of people to convince that it is not a production car. I don't see why you are trying to convince me.. Obviously i know it is one. You are just so Adamant that it is not. It IS a production car weather you like it or not, weather you believe it is or not. It is classified in the automotive industry as a Production Car.
@halflife103 "Obviously I know it (the Gumpert) Is one. You are just so Adamant that it is not.."
Hey- I fully admitted that under "your" (ie random google reference) guidelines, it very well IS a "production vehicle". As are particular Formula 1 vehicles.
@SidewaysGts The ACR is a Production car, they just make 10 a year. They have been Building them for years. I like how your taking extra time to assume things about my comments :D
Get over it, the Automotive Industry, and anyone who has been around racing cars their whole life knows that the Dodge Viper ACR IS a production car. I don't know why you deny it.
@halflife103 "Get over it, the Automotive Industry, and anyone who has been around racing cars their whole life knows that the Dodge Viper ACR IS a production car. I don't know why you deny it"
Slugger- Do you have some wires crossed? I *Never* Denied the ACR was a production car. Myself, and Nwa90 were talking about the GUMPERT, NOT the ACR. This is why I kept saying GUMPERT in my posts.
@halflife103 "It is classified in the automotive industry as a Production Car"
No, it isnt. Again let me make it clear- there is NO standard definition for the term "Production Car", not amongst the general public, and NOT amongst the "Automotive Industry". Some people (ie you) will view it as a "production car", many will not. The decision to do such is based entirely on how YOU as an individual interpret "Production car" (pt1)
@halflife103 "You have a lot of people to convince that it is not a production car. I don't see why you are trying to convince me"
That you are under the conclusion that I need convince a lot of people, and that I am even trying to convince you of such, convinces me that you lack reading comprehension skills. I am NOT trying to convince you it isnt. Again- I admitted by YOUR own definition/understanding of "Production Car", it is, along with particular F1 cars (pt1 convince)
@halflife103 (pt2 convince) The only thing im trying to "convince" you of, is that you need, or at a minimum *should* try and simply understand that the concept of the term production car is NOT a standard one amongst -anyone-. Certainly not the "Automotive Industry". It is a matter of interpretation on an individual level, there is NO majority acceptance of the term.
@dunhillsupramk3 im not sure...never heard of that..all i know is that this viper was discontinued a few years ago. they are making a new viper in 2013 but thats all i know
The ,08 viper acr and the 09 zr1 went head to head on the ring viper has a time of 7.22 while your plastic wedge of a car has 7.24 I think it may be 7.26 but I'll give the zr1 a couple of seconds as a pity rule the ,11 zr1 may have a better time but thats cause it's newer than the acr (08-10) and when the ,13 viper comes out all u vett fanboys will once again cry about getting ur ass handed to u and by the way acr and all other vipers have no traction control or stability management and is stil
@W4TCH4W Well, I wouldn't say that. In my opinion, they are both the same on paper. but on the road they are two verry different machiens. The ACR and the ZR1 are the two most under-rated supercars in the world.
@Refort610 GM has only been to the ring three times. once in 2005 when they tested the z06, then they went back in 2008 to test the ZR1, then again in 2011 to test both the z06 and ZR1. so really the ZR1 has only been to the ring twice. just wait till august when the 2012 ZR1 and Z06 will start being tested by motortrend and car and driver
@itchytasty100 The Nurburgring is the only one though, where GM has spent a shitload of time there trying to perfect the car. The 2008 (vs 2012 ZR1?) Viper had the record for 3 years, held by a guy that really didn't know the car all too well.
Lame analysis. Both guys sound like they have virtually no technical knowledge o terminology, Awesome, new dimension, how was sterring? Probably burger flippers m-f and like "cool cars" on weekends. Audi R8 is a middle of the road super car that, due to technical and computer management, has little feel, minimizes driver input and needs little skill to drive. I know I've driven the Audi and the Viper ACR. My OPINION, is that the ZRI and the ZO6 are better cars. Viper does NOT own ZR1
Uhm. I'll take this over a ZR1 ANYDAY. I don't care how rough the ride is. I don't care if the ZR1 is a tad faster. Most can't make the ZR1 go 0-60 in the spec times anyway. Plus, the ACR is so amazing looking. Especially black with the red driver stripe. That's why this is my favorite car. What do most people say when you pull up in a ZR1? "Nice Vette" Yep, you're classified with the stock C6 owners. Nice. Not something that would bother me if I did have one. But would be kind of irritating.
@lamborghiniowns30000 well that depends, the ZR1 corvette may have a V8 but it puts out 640 BHP where the viper is at 600, ZR1 0-60 3secs, ACR 0-60 4secs. I still think the Viper is a better looking car though and apparently just unruly to handle, itd be a tough decision to make
@wowdino actually the corvette ZR1 is over 100,000$ and the viper ACR is around 90,000 dollars so your paying 10,000$ more for a car that wont get from 0-60 because your burning the tires so much
@GTRman6077 well actually i just looked it up and a regular acr, with no special paint or decals is 107,255, ur thinking of the regular viper thats around 90,000 and the zr1 is 110,300, so yes its still 3,045 bucks more expensive but if u get the snakeskin or anything they are about the same, ether way zr1 will be faster, acr looks better, burning the tires isn't the car... its the driver
@wowdino Of course not, you can look up lap times anywhere. Here's some research for you: Sebring, Laguna, VIR, Jersey motorsports park, etc. There's even videos of some of them.
@Refort610 we'll is that the same driver? are the cars stock or modified further? cause on paper the ZR1 has got the ACR on the straights and the corners, so maybe the research is skewed
@wowdino Not the same drivers and obviously not modified, as that would void my point. On paper, and reality, ACR is better on corners. Where are you reading the ZR1 is superior?
@Refort610 figures from the websites, ZR1 is more powerful and lighter, from reviews online that say the Viper is unruly to handle and the light grippy corvette can take the corners pretty easily, read SJRrules's comment
@wowdino You're comparing peak power only? Of course the engine will seem better that way with peak power only. For weight, there's less than 20 lbs separating the two, guess who's lighter? Handling, you were comparing paper, not characteristics. Charactersistcs are going to vary from person to person as they have different driving habits, making that comparison void and irrelevant. Zr1 is not a God car, stop pretending like it's better than everything else and actually look up facts.
@wowdino It still doesn't change the fact that the ACR has better lap times. If the ZR1 is faster in the straights than an ACR (I don't think anybody is arguing against that), then where does the ACR make up for the time lost in the straights?
@wowdino Again, as I stated to the other guy, the ACR holds records at other tracks, just like it did once at the Ring. Why people consider the Ring the only place to prove a car's performance is beyond me. So tell me, where else exactly does the ZR1 hold records at? Also, that ZR1 is not an '08, it was a '12 just like the Z06.
@Refort610 because the Ring has everything from long straights to sharp corners to wide corners and everything in between, It is the ultimate race track and that's y companies go there to perfect their car's performance
@Refort610 Wow have you never been on the internet or watched TV like the show Top Gear? It seems whenever a car is made in America Europeans seem to doubt it and make fun. You know I'm really not like that I like a lot of cars that come from other countries I'm just saying if they're going to hate on our cars then I figure I'll return the favor.
@patwwe If you like a certain car purely based on the origin it came from, then you're not a car enthusiast. A car enthusiast appreciates anything that's fast. Top gear doesn't make fun of American cars. It'll seem that they do, but actually pay attention to what they're saying and you'll see the satire. As for other Europeans, a lot of them really do appreciate the rawness of American cars. So again, why should the origin of a car matter? Like what you like, not everybody else.
@Refort610 I appreciate some European car, and I respect where I have come from. I find that I personally prefer American made cars, but still find some cars from other countries that I like. It really doesn't matter to me where a car comes from as long as it suites your needs (speed, look, or hell to get you from point a to point b). However when people from another country insult our cars I get annoyed. I wouldn't say Top Gear is bias towards European cars, but they seem to look down on ours.
@lamborghiniowns30000 yea, but the ZR1 is lighter than the Viper too... But also look at it this way, the Vipers V10 is bone stock while the ZR1 has a pretty much all upgraded engine which you have little room to monkey around with. Thats why you see 1000+hp Vipers, but dont get me wrong Id take the ZR1 too
Alot of European people make a big deal saying that all America focuses on is V8s. Some Brits on here have the nerve to boast about how they're past V8s and are on to V12s with the things Aston Martin has going on, well America has the Viper, which has a V10, and produces more power than your POS DBS! If 007 was CIA, he would be driving a Viper no doubt!
@edtri19 Correct. It's about how the power is layed down. These massive V10s are putting down so much torque and power throughout basically all RPMs. Whereas other vehicles claim to be making the same amount of power with a smaller engine, but have a narrower powerband and need to reach higher RPMs to achieve it.
@Refort610 Yeah a nice smooth torque curve is more important than anything else - i would rather have a car making 400hp from 3000rpm to a car making 500hp at 6000 rpm.
Less then 100k and ran 7:22 is outstanding. Now let's see a piece of shit German trash car under a 100 grand try that....not going to happen unless it's 500k or more loooololol
Lets see a road going Viper SRT10 doing the same. The ACR is a god damn racecar with numberplates. Built for ONE purpose. To make you forget the fact that Vipers in general are budget burnout machines. Now, after the ACR arrived, its suddenly got hero status in america and everybody is expecting it to come back in 2012-2013 and dominate the supercar world...
Yeah... By using barely legal semi slick race tyres. They are doing what Viper did. This is the last version Corvette before its replaced. So just like the Viper ACR is a thinly disguised racecar with numberplates, Corvette has approached their race teams inorder to see what they can do to close the gap between roadcar and racecar. This is the future for Vipers and Corvettes in general. Racecars for the road. Because stepping up in quality to match supercars costs money.
The ACR doesn't really have that many differences from the normal Viper. do some research. I've noticed from your posts you know very little about cars on a technical level but still enjoy typing a lot.
I appreciate your concern for my mental wellbeing. However Im not on some quest to discredit anything. I became a game designer but studied social anthropology and marketing. Im interested in brand identity and social trends. As such I leave the nerdy details to those that care. However I do find it amazing that the very fundation of US car knowledge comes from wild claims, patriotic stories and myths. I must admit I find it freakshow fun to poke holes in these myths.
So you're a whiner with an unimportant job and a slacker degree (social science is for girls who drop out and get married, sorry)? Ok. What does that have to do with .. anything?
You feel inferior to Americans because you ARE inferior to Americans.
I'm not even patriotic I'm just stating a fact. You are genetically inferior and you need to come to terms with it. Your sanity is at stake here. Get down on your knees and kiss American combat boots just like your mother has.
I'm Euro (Mediterranean NOT a fat Nord) living in USA
I don't hate Europeans/Americans. I just like making fun of whining losers. Honestly who randomly brags about being a "game designer" and expects a serious response. Like that's some important law/medical job?
You spam every car video with nonstop female whining about the slightest flaws in every car you've never driven. I have an actual Porsche and actual Corvette, you have the ones your co-worker made in 3dsmax. Fat barbarian.
@Janusha Nope, sorry. The world doesn't dislike Americans, only you do because of your insane jealousy. You probably got denied entry to that country and now you're crying about it. Sorry you're not happy with your life in Norway. By the way, being a "game designer" is extremely vague. I highly doubt you are one anyway.
I have always been a Corvette kinda man but I really dont give a fck if its the viper, the vette, or the ford gt that is the best; As long as one of them keeps on embarrassing the "over-seas" competition , I will be a happy man :)
Yesterday i saw one of these coming towards me and the look on the front grill made it seem like it was going to eat me. I fled frantically because i did't want to get eaten. i then laughed hysterically because i saw a gtr rear end a 370z. lol. Just like in the wild, the viper causes its prey to scatter.
Dodge Viper ACR? why not GTS?
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Second, the competition was supposed to be for the best handling car not the easiest driving. You have to be able to drive to take the Viper to it's limit. There are no computers to help you, except ABS. No car for $100K can be driven from your house to the track and back again and lay down the lap times that the ACR can. PERIOD! I've raced both the ACR and ACR-X and the only car better is the Viper Competition Coupe. Drive one before you post ignorant comments.
dpollock70 1 month ago
2 points that need to be made: First, on the production car issue: I ma in the car business and it IS a production car. The ACR is an equipment package anyone could have ordered on their Viper. My friend owns a Dodge dealership and they have sold at 30 or 40 2010 ACRs at their 1 dealership alone. They still have 7 or 8 remaining in inventory if you want one. Go to viperexchange to see what's available. One of his cars is the one that just broke the 'Ring record.
dpollock70 1 month ago
@dpollock70 Second, No ther car that costs $100K that can be driven from your house to the track and home again can come close to the ACR. Unless you have driven one you just can't understand. It is an amazing car on the track. I have raced bothe the ACR and ACR-X and the only thing better is a Viper Competition Coupe! The competition was for the best handling not the easiest to drive and with that said the Viper killed the lap times. The Viper is DEFINITELY the best handling car on the road.
dpollock70 1 month ago
Tester was honest and a good driver. He said it handles like a bull, it's brutal, it has no traction control. Yes, it would be fun to drive but a lot of people would crash it if they pushed it. At least you would be much safer pushing an R8 or M3. It's a car for the American market, you can't blame Chrysler for that. We'd all love to drive one but I'd probably buy a car that also handles like a real supercar.
dob90210 1 month ago
I will be carefull, just give me a try =)
reedtmartin 1 month ago
@Hippitheman I'm not paying $600,000 for a second less on a 13 mile track.
TedMan55 1 month ago
Anyone looking to grow their Youtube Channel maybe I can help
19Julz76 2 months ago
The Viper ACR is the best factory race car ever.
SuperKing1320 2 months ago
Okay, In canada their are a couple of dealers with this car.. how have some of you idiots not heard of it? Oh wait, it's because when MERCEDES owned Chrysler they hushed the top of the line performance. Honestly, since Daimler took over Chrysler how many commercials have we seen of the Viper? Not many, I can't think of one. When Viper comes back in 2013, it will own the road and Fiat will allow Dodge to advertise that.
dobadriver 2 months ago
Fuckin laguna seca i hate it from gt 2 for psx
shaka066 2 months ago
this is DEFINETLY ABSOULOUTLEY bot the best handling american car. at all
MrCorvette741 3 months ago
@MrCorvette741 7:12 Nurburgring. Nuff said.
Bduke1000 2 months ago
@Bduke1000 I love corvettes, I would take a z06 any day over any viper... However, there is no arguing with the facts. This viper owns any track you put it on. 7:12 is a fucking insane lap time.
Asherr6 2 months ago
@Asherr6 See, now that's just personal preference. And I don't blame you. I've been a Viper fan even before they were anything decent to talk about on the track. The Z06 and the ZR1 are both bad ass looking cars. Plus, I like classic muscle as well.. and the old stingrays are sweet. I drove a 69 stingray with a 454 big block. 1st into 2nd.. lit em up. 2nd into 3rd.. lights em up. 3rd into 4th... still lights em up.... with ease. Vettes are number 2 for me :p
Bduke1000 2 months ago
who els noticed the dudes spit @ 1:14 when he said glaxyyyyyyy
viperany 3 months ago
@viperany you're aware that's a bug right
Heath3250 3 months ago
Is this just the srt 10 in like an awesome sport version?
XXLMinigun 3 months ago
@XXLMinigun
Higher HP version, some light weight parts, no stereo and shit, pretty much a race car for the streets. Mercedes owned Dodge for the last 10+ yrs. That's why the Viper didn't get the recognition it should have. Idk how much you care but Chrysler is owned by a different company now. Soon we'll all know that it is and always was the best thing made from America the last 20 yrs
dobadriver 2 months ago
Dear Santa...
R073NG3L 3 months ago
Lap time at Nurburgring
Gumpert Apollo S 7:11:57
Viper ACR 7:12:13
hippitheman 3 months ago
@hippitheman gumpert apollo isnt a production car, fail :)
NWA90s 3 months ago
@NWA90s ummm, the gumpert apollo is a production car, fail.
muffinman127 3 months ago
@muffinman127 when only 12 are made it doesnt count as production car, fail
NWA90s 3 months ago 3
@NWA90s no
thesk8er420 2 months ago
@thesk8er420 what no? please explain?
NWA90s 2 months ago
@NWA90s Pretty sure it is. Give me facts saying that it is not. Oh, and describe "production car".
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 its not considred a production car when only 12 have been made
NWA90s 1 month ago
@NWA90s according to you.
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 according to everyone with logic
NWA90s 1 month ago
@NWA90s One person is not everyone. Besides, logic is based on facts.
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 fact is that when 12 are made it is not a production cars
NWA90s 1 month ago
@NWA90s A Production car is any car built in a factory that builds and sells cars as their business. They will be a production facility. Regardless of how many are sold.
If it is being PRODUCED it IS a Production car.
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 its not produced
NWA90s 1 month ago
@NWA90s But it WAS so it WAS a production car.
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 it was, it aint anymore
NWA90s 1 month ago
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@NWA90s You are right, but it was.
Which is a completely opposite thing you said above "when only 12 are made it doesnt count as production car".
Consistancy fail.
halflife103 1 month ago
@NWA90s But if it was, it's a poduction car :/
ordnas1234 1 month ago
@ordnas1234 futue and past, different
NWA90s 1 month ago
@halflife103 "A production car is any car built in a factory that builds and sells cars as their business"
Ferraris f1 factory(ies) have cranked out multiples of a single type of f1 car in a year at times- So by using your logic, some of ferraris f1 cars are "production cars" as well, right? Of course not. Whatd you do, google "what is a production car" and copy/paste the only thing you could find? I jest, I know this is what you did. (pt1)
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@halflife103 (pt2) Production car is a very, very loose term at best. Theres a reason when you googled "what is a production car", you found so few "answers" to copy/paste. There is no official accepted definition for what a "production" car is. My joking example is proof of why your definition hardly holds water. Its very opinion based. That said i assure you nwa90s "opinion" is far from a singular example, nor even a minority standing, but rather a MAJORITY view.
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@halflife103 (pt3) I for example, side with him and do NOT view the gumpert as a "Production car" in any way, shape, or form. To ME, "production car" implies some form of MASS production. The gumpert is, again to me, nothing more than a made-to-order toy- A concept car that got copied a few times to those who had more money than they knew what to do with. Going to take more than a few copies for most people to call something like that a "production" car.
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@SidewaysGts So then for all of your comments explain to the people who run the Nurburgring that it is not a Production Car.
You have a lot of people to convince that it is not a production car. I don't see why you are trying to convince me.. Obviously i know it is one. You are just so Adamant that it is not. It IS a production car weather you like it or not, weather you believe it is or not. It is classified in the automotive industry as a Production Car.
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 "So then for all of your comments explain to the people who run the Nurburgring that it is not a Production Car"
Who on earth are you -specifically- talking about here Champ?
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@halflife103 "Obviously I know it (the Gumpert) Is one. You are just so Adamant that it is not.."
Hey- I fully admitted that under "your" (ie random google reference) guidelines, it very well IS a "production vehicle". As are particular Formula 1 vehicles.
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@SidewaysGts The ACR is a Production car, they just make 10 a year. They have been Building them for years. I like how your taking extra time to assume things about my comments :D
Get over it, the Automotive Industry, and anyone who has been around racing cars their whole life knows that the Dodge Viper ACR IS a production car. I don't know why you deny it.
halflife103 1 month ago
@halflife103 "Get over it, the Automotive Industry, and anyone who has been around racing cars their whole life knows that the Dodge Viper ACR IS a production car. I don't know why you deny it"
Slugger- Do you have some wires crossed? I *Never* Denied the ACR was a production car. Myself, and Nwa90 were talking about the GUMPERT, NOT the ACR. This is why I kept saying GUMPERT in my posts.
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@halflife103 They've produced plenty more than just 10 ACRs a year. How about doing an actual search before posting a random number.
Refort610 1 month ago
@halflife103 "It is classified in the automotive industry as a Production Car"
No, it isnt. Again let me make it clear- there is NO standard definition for the term "Production Car", not amongst the general public, and NOT amongst the "Automotive Industry". Some people (ie you) will view it as a "production car", many will not. The decision to do such is based entirely on how YOU as an individual interpret "Production car" (pt1)
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@halflife103 "You have a lot of people to convince that it is not a production car. I don't see why you are trying to convince me"
That you are under the conclusion that I need convince a lot of people, and that I am even trying to convince you of such, convinces me that you lack reading comprehension skills. I am NOT trying to convince you it isnt. Again- I admitted by YOUR own definition/understanding of "Production Car", it is, along with particular F1 cars (pt1 convince)
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@halflife103 (pt2 convince) The only thing im trying to "convince" you of, is that you need, or at a minimum *should* try and simply understand that the concept of the term production car is NOT a standard one amongst -anyone-. Certainly not the "Automotive Industry". It is a matter of interpretation on an individual level, there is NO majority acceptance of the term.
SidewaysGts 1 month ago
@hippitheman At the 'ring 3 tenths of a second are basically a tie, so the 2 cars run about the same. The viper is half the price though...
GMdrivingMOPARguy 1 month ago
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hippitheman 3 months ago
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hippitheman 3 months ago
bye bye zr1
dunhillsupramk3 3 months ago
@dunhillsupramk3 zr1 came out after this, they don't even make the ACR anymore. i like the viper but the zr1 beats it
steriods4champions 3 months ago
@steriods4champions so what was that viper called that broke the zr1 record 3 weeks ago at the nurburg ring?
dunhillsupramk3 3 months ago
@dunhillsupramk3 im not sure...never heard of that..all i know is that this viper was discontinued a few years ago. they are making a new viper in 2013 but thats all i know
steriods4champions 3 months ago
man i hate mopars but i cant get over how hot the ACR is
Novantii 3 months ago
dodge viper srt10 acr smokes nissan gtr,audi r8,lamborghini gallardo,lexus lfa and many more
maxthehulk 3 months ago
@blazzing4321 hell yea thanks for the update on time gotta love a viper
smoosta1 4 months ago
twin turbo ACR for me, please.. of course I'll crash it.. I cant handle that shit, but it would be fun trying..
chevlumina 4 months ago 23
78 people are victims of the Viper ACR
djcheff 4 months ago
The ,08 viper acr and the 09 zr1 went head to head on the ring viper has a time of 7.22 while your plastic wedge of a car has 7.24 I think it may be 7.26 but I'll give the zr1 a couple of seconds as a pity rule the ,11 zr1 may have a better time but thats cause it's newer than the acr (08-10) and when the ,13 viper comes out all u vett fanboys will once again cry about getting ur ass handed to u and by the way acr and all other vipers have no traction control or stability management and is stil
smoosta1 4 months ago
@smoosta1 The Viper ACR is now 7:12!!!
blazzing4321 4 months ago
@blazzing4321 hell yea!!!!!!
XxGanjaXXGOD 4 months ago
ACR has standard power and torque? erm am i missing something.. doesnt it have 600+ bhp?
standard viper has 500....
BL1RN5Y 4 months ago
@BL1RN5Y nope. the 04 had 500 hp, they amped up to 600 hp i think in 08
fallenfan1 4 months ago
@fallenfan1 so why dont they supercharge the ACR ^^ and give it a better steering rack with more feel to it... love vipers :)
BL1RN5Y 4 months ago
@BL1RN5Y because if they did you wouldn't have that thought that it would kill you when you drove it you would know it
logan8490 4 months ago
@BL1RN5Y the latest generation of the viper before it got discontinued had 600 horsepower base.
steriods4champions 3 months ago
@BL1RN5Y no dude the new (08-10) 8.4 liter v10 makes 600 hp now as oppposed to the older(03-08) 8.3 liter v10 which made 510 hp
rowdyrocks1 1 month ago
@W4TCH4W look at nurburgring times ZR1 is faster then ACR
itchytasty100 4 months ago
Lol looks like a 2 seater LIMO ( in a good way... )
W4TCH4W 4 months ago
good job on putting the Motortrend,com on those guys faces! Fail for editing this video!
primux1 5 months ago
Best Handling car.... in the hands of someone who actually knows how to drive...
and not someone who comes on youtube and start an e-fight about how "ultimate" it is...
station2station 5 months ago
You mess with the snake, you get the fangs.
CopperheadViper 5 months ago
@CopperheadViper Absolutely look what happened to the Snake Slayer ( zr1 ) he got the fangs up the ass )
W4TCH4W 4 months ago
@W4TCH4W Well, I wouldn't say that. In my opinion, they are both the same on paper. but on the road they are two verry different machiens. The ACR and the ZR1 are the two most under-rated supercars in the world.
CopperheadViper 4 months ago
@CopperheadViper They're junk, damn you primitives are gullible.
nilbud 3 months ago
@nilbud HA! As opposed to what?
CopperheadViper 3 months ago
@nilbud Haha. You primitives are gullible? As opposed to what... you?
CopperheadViper 3 months ago
A raging bull with a rope in its mouth !!
moparholic2 5 months ago
Wow. Dodge finally makes a good car
isaacTGOD44 5 months ago
@isaacTGOD44 No, people like you finally realize because they just got on youtube. Dodge has been doin this since the late 80's....
mopar7redneck 5 months ago
why do i have to be middle class :(
ride0RgetR0DE0n 5 months ago
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best car on the planet
Ciper83 5 months ago
Sex on wheels
DutchMannDan 5 months ago
"You better know what you're doing or be darn careful if you're driving a Viper ACR at it's limit."
...coming from a guy who can drive 99% of people under the table! Love it!!
HKEManagement 5 months ago
Viper has a handling related to a Lada. Buy a Gumpert if you want handling. This only got power.
JonteTheMan1 6 months ago
@JonteTheMan1 stop trolling no one cares and look at the lap times
Plaayboarding 6 months ago
@Refort610 oh yeah driving 3 laps split between both the ZR1 and Z06 is a eternity
itchytasty100 6 months ago
@Refort610 GM has only been to the ring three times. once in 2005 when they tested the z06, then they went back in 2008 to test the ZR1, then again in 2011 to test both the z06 and ZR1. so really the ZR1 has only been to the ring twice. just wait till august when the 2012 ZR1 and Z06 will start being tested by motortrend and car and driver
itchytasty100 6 months ago
@itchytasty100 Just because they went there twice doesn't mean they didn't spend a lot of time there.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 you gotta remember though that there is no laptimes for the 2012 ZR1 which is faster than the ACR around nurburgring
itchytasty100 6 months ago
@itchytasty100 The Nurburgring is the only one though, where GM has spent a shitload of time there trying to perfect the car. The 2008 (vs 2012 ZR1?) Viper had the record for 3 years, held by a guy that really didn't know the car all too well.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 well ZR1 has got 7:20 on the ring
wowdino 6 months ago
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Srbabiruso 6 months ago
Lame analysis. Both guys sound like they have virtually no technical knowledge o terminology, Awesome, new dimension, how was sterring? Probably burger flippers m-f and like "cool cars" on weekends. Audi R8 is a middle of the road super car that, due to technical and computer management, has little feel, minimizes driver input and needs little skill to drive. I know I've driven the Audi and the Viper ACR. My OPINION, is that the ZRI and the ZO6 are better cars. Viper does NOT own ZR1
SJRRules 6 months ago
Viper owns ZR1 so hard
cryteeek 6 months ago
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cryteeek 6 months ago
Uhm. I'll take this over a ZR1 ANYDAY. I don't care how rough the ride is. I don't care if the ZR1 is a tad faster. Most can't make the ZR1 go 0-60 in the spec times anyway. Plus, the ACR is so amazing looking. Especially black with the red driver stripe. That's why this is my favorite car. What do most people say when you pull up in a ZR1? "Nice Vette" Yep, you're classified with the stock C6 owners. Nice. Not something that would bother me if I did have one. But would be kind of irritating.
800hennessy 6 months ago
why buy a corvette with a v8 engine when you can buy a viper with a v10 engine
thumb up if you agree with me
lamborghiniowns30000 6 months ago
@lamborghiniowns30000 well that depends, the ZR1 corvette may have a V8 but it puts out 640 BHP where the viper is at 600, ZR1 0-60 3secs, ACR 0-60 4secs. I still think the Viper is a better looking car though and apparently just unruly to handle, itd be a tough decision to make
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino dude the ACR makes 0-60 on 3.6 secs and the corvette on 3.4 secs and its only 40 bhp difference
lamborghiniowns30000 6 months ago
@lamborghiniowns30000 ok but the ZR1 is still faster, and i think 10 grand cheaper, and it usually gets higher ratings for handling
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino actually the corvette ZR1 is over 100,000$ and the viper ACR is around 90,000 dollars so your paying 10,000$ more for a car that wont get from 0-60 because your burning the tires so much
GTRman6077 6 months ago
@GTRman6077 well actually i just looked it up and a regular acr, with no special paint or decals is 107,255, ur thinking of the regular viper thats around 90,000 and the zr1 is 110,300, so yes its still 3,045 bucks more expensive but if u get the snakeskin or anything they are about the same, ether way zr1 will be faster, acr looks better, burning the tires isn't the car... its the driver
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino ZR1 is faster? Is that why the ACR has faster lap times than the ZR1?
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 okay? where'd you pull this info out of no where from?
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino Of course not, you can look up lap times anywhere. Here's some research for you: Sebring, Laguna, VIR, Jersey motorsports park, etc. There's even videos of some of them.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 we'll is that the same driver? are the cars stock or modified further? cause on paper the ZR1 has got the ACR on the straights and the corners, so maybe the research is skewed
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino Not the same drivers and obviously not modified, as that would void my point. On paper, and reality, ACR is better on corners. Where are you reading the ZR1 is superior?
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 figures from the websites, ZR1 is more powerful and lighter, from reviews online that say the Viper is unruly to handle and the light grippy corvette can take the corners pretty easily, read SJRrules's comment
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino You're comparing peak power only? Of course the engine will seem better that way with peak power only. For weight, there's less than 20 lbs separating the two, guess who's lighter? Handling, you were comparing paper, not characteristics. Charactersistcs are going to vary from person to person as they have different driving habits, making that comparison void and irrelevant. Zr1 is not a God car, stop pretending like it's better than everything else and actually look up facts.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 youtube(dot)com/watch?v=UpunhO_bBe8&NR=1
jay leno himself, says zr1 has the edge
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino It still doesn't change the fact that the ACR has better lap times. If the ZR1 is faster in the straights than an ACR (I don't think anybody is arguing against that), then where does the ACR make up for the time lost in the straights?
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 can I haz links to websites with these times plz?
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino I already gave you some tracks at which the ACR holds the record over the ZR1 as examples. You're not incapable of looking them up.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610
7. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 7:19.63 169 '08 647 / 1530 GM testdriver
8. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:22.10 168 '08 600 / 1536 Motor Trend
9. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon 7:22.68 168 '11 512 / 1394 GM
times, speed in kmh, production year, power/weight, driver, nurbergring
wowdino 6 months ago
@wowdino Again, as I stated to the other guy, the ACR holds records at other tracks, just like it did once at the Ring. Why people consider the Ring the only place to prove a car's performance is beyond me. So tell me, where else exactly does the ZR1 hold records at? Also, that ZR1 is not an '08, it was a '12 just like the Z06.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 because the Ring has everything from long straights to sharp corners to wide corners and everything in between, It is the ultimate race track and that's y companies go there to perfect their car's performance
wowdino 6 months ago
@Refort610 Who cares? Stop fighting and just be happy both those cars are better than European sports cars.
patwwe 6 months ago
@patwwe That's kind of ignorant. Why should the origin of a car matter?
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 Wow have you never been on the internet or watched TV like the show Top Gear? It seems whenever a car is made in America Europeans seem to doubt it and make fun. You know I'm really not like that I like a lot of cars that come from other countries I'm just saying if they're going to hate on our cars then I figure I'll return the favor.
patwwe 6 months ago
@patwwe If you like a certain car purely based on the origin it came from, then you're not a car enthusiast. A car enthusiast appreciates anything that's fast. Top gear doesn't make fun of American cars. It'll seem that they do, but actually pay attention to what they're saying and you'll see the satire. As for other Europeans, a lot of them really do appreciate the rawness of American cars. So again, why should the origin of a car matter? Like what you like, not everybody else.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 I appreciate some European car, and I respect where I have come from. I find that I personally prefer American made cars, but still find some cars from other countries that I like. It really doesn't matter to me where a car comes from as long as it suites your needs (speed, look, or hell to get you from point a to point b). However when people from another country insult our cars I get annoyed. I wouldn't say Top Gear is bias towards European cars, but they seem to look down on ours.
patwwe 6 months ago
@lamborghiniowns30000 yea, but the ZR1 is lighter than the Viper too... But also look at it this way, the Vipers V10 is bone stock while the ZR1 has a pretty much all upgraded engine which you have little room to monkey around with. Thats why you see 1000+hp Vipers, but dont get me wrong Id take the ZR1 too
RussianAmericanArms 6 months ago
The rear tires are soo massive it can grip air
a55kika18 6 months ago
motortrend is the best user that uploads vids about cars. dont care about the voice, i care about the vid :P
pokemonz29 6 months ago
what tires?
slavashalava 6 months ago
Really? you decided to place your logo over the guy's head...
justinbltn 7 months ago
sorry but the zr1 is americas best car. and probably the best on the planet.
2girls1freak 7 months ago
@2girls1freak No.... No where close, plastic bottles doesn't count im sorry
greendayrules11 7 months ago
america makes the best cars id take this over aveyron any day
xBringinSexyBack95x 7 months ago
my dad just bought this for $111,000 is bangin
xskater69x 7 months ago
Alot of European people make a big deal saying that all America focuses on is V8s. Some Brits on here have the nerve to boast about how they're past V8s and are on to V12s with the things Aston Martin has going on, well America has the Viper, which has a V10, and produces more power than your POS DBS! If 007 was CIA, he would be driving a Viper no doubt!
Hendrixidol 7 months ago
@Hendrixidol Its not about power
edtri19 6 months ago
@edtri19 Correct. It's about how the power is layed down. These massive V10s are putting down so much torque and power throughout basically all RPMs. Whereas other vehicles claim to be making the same amount of power with a smaller engine, but have a narrower powerband and need to reach higher RPMs to achieve it.
Refort610 6 months ago
@Refort610 Yeah a nice smooth torque curve is more important than anything else - i would rather have a car making 400hp from 3000rpm to a car making 500hp at 6000 rpm.
edtri19 6 months ago
hei
manutzux 7 months ago
sick
teddy641000 7 months ago
sick
crish02 7 months ago
This janusha fat boy's mom is licking my ass
He drives a 4 cylinder compact with quadruple rally lights that does 0-60 in 16 seconds (like most fat nordic barbarians)
he'll explain to you for hours how it's slow because its "optimized for turning" LOL
shut your cellulite face up you illiterate sausage eating scandinavian ogre! Caesar has arrived!
Novantii 7 months ago
I own a Corvette, a Porsche, and I walk Janusha's mother around on a dog collar, that inferior bitch.
Novantii 7 months ago
i dont care what i have to do in my life, i will own this car
csm07cb 7 months ago
was this....was this porn?
csm07cb 7 months ago
good work putting the motortrend logo right over his face
Evan12345678 7 months ago
laguna seca??
QUER0SENE 7 months ago
Excuse me i must now go commit a crime to earn some money...
darkz2k3 8 months ago 13
@darkz2k3 Sounds good, give me a call if you need assistance, I need a viper too ;)
lightsodda 7 months ago
this car make me want to set my little compact car on fire
LdRfilmz 8 months ago 16
Less then 100k and ran 7:22 is outstanding. Now let's see a piece of shit German trash car under a 100 grand try that....not going to happen unless it's 500k or more loooololol
blazzing4321 8 months ago
@blazzing4321
Lets see a road going Viper SRT10 doing the same. The ACR is a god damn racecar with numberplates. Built for ONE purpose. To make you forget the fact that Vipers in general are budget burnout machines. Now, after the ACR arrived, its suddenly got hero status in america and everybody is expecting it to come back in 2012-2013 and dominate the supercar world...
Janusha 7 months ago
@Janusha How do you feel about the 2012 ZR1 lapping nurburgring in 7:19?=)
blazzing4321 7 months ago
@blazzing4321
Yeah... By using barely legal semi slick race tyres. They are doing what Viper did. This is the last version Corvette before its replaced. So just like the Viper ACR is a thinly disguised racecar with numberplates, Corvette has approached their race teams inorder to see what they can do to close the gap between roadcar and racecar. This is the future for Vipers and Corvettes in general. Racecars for the road. Because stepping up in quality to match supercars costs money.
Janusha 7 months ago
@Janusha
The ACR doesn't really have that many differences from the normal Viper. do some research. I've noticed from your posts you know very little about cars on a technical level but still enjoy typing a lot.
Novantii 7 months ago
@Novantii
I appreciate your concern for my mental wellbeing. However Im not on some quest to discredit anything. I became a game designer but studied social anthropology and marketing. Im interested in brand identity and social trends. As such I leave the nerdy details to those that care. However I do find it amazing that the very fundation of US car knowledge comes from wild claims, patriotic stories and myths. I must admit I find it freakshow fun to poke holes in these myths.
Janusha 7 months ago
@Janusha
So you're a whiner with an unimportant job and a slacker degree (social science is for girls who drop out and get married, sorry)? Ok. What does that have to do with .. anything?
You feel inferior to Americans because you ARE inferior to Americans.
I'm not even patriotic I'm just stating a fact. You are genetically inferior and you need to come to terms with it. Your sanity is at stake here. Get down on your knees and kiss American combat boots just like your mother has.
Novantii 7 months ago
@Novantii
Haha social science... ok. If you say so. I sure wonder why the world dislikes americans. Its a mystery.
Janusha 7 months ago
@Janusha
I'm Euro (Mediterranean NOT a fat Nord) living in USA
I don't hate Europeans/Americans. I just like making fun of whining losers. Honestly who randomly brags about being a "game designer" and expects a serious response. Like that's some important law/medical job?
You spam every car video with nonstop female whining about the slightest flaws in every car you've never driven. I have an actual Porsche and actual Corvette, you have the ones your co-worker made in 3dsmax. Fat barbarian.
Novantii 7 months ago
this car with targa tops would be the ultimate state of automotive aesthetics
Novantii 7 months ago
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jimman1209 7 months ago
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@Janusha Nope, sorry. The world doesn't dislike Americans, only you do because of your insane jealousy. You probably got denied entry to that country and now you're crying about it. Sorry you're not happy with your life in Norway. By the way, being a "game designer" is extremely vague. I highly doubt you are one anyway.
jimman1209 7 months ago
I have always been a Corvette kinda man but I really dont give a fck if its the viper, the vette, or the ford gt that is the best; As long as one of them keeps on embarrassing the "over-seas" competition , I will be a happy man :)
KillaCamRon405 8 months ago 3
@KillaCamRon405 like a boss
supercaca3000 7 months ago
You know a car will rip at the track when it requires 20 inch wheels to clear the brakes.
atreyukicks 8 months ago
Randy Pobst!!!
fayo16 8 months ago
what was the lap time ?
This is important I think.
944turboracecar 8 months ago
Yesterday i saw one of these coming towards me and the look on the front grill made it seem like it was going to eat me. I fled frantically because i did't want to get eaten. i then laughed hysterically because i saw a gtr rear end a 370z. lol. Just like in the wild, the viper causes its prey to scatter.
ellisfreedman 8 months ago
lolll i thought he said four inch wheels at first...i was like wut
al4chez 8 months ago
Pure mans car
MrHEMSTAR 8 months ago 48
Id like to know which one is actually faster between this and the ZR1.
mark28105 8 months ago
@mark28105 Probably the viper
Deoxus5023 8 months ago
@mark28105 the viper is, both on a track and in a straight line.
RamDi3sel 8 months ago