People who like Kobe but not LeBron aren't real basketball fans. Sorry. They're both spectacular players, hating one and loving the other is plain idiotic. Get their dicks out of your mouths acting like they're your boyfriends or something and just enjoy the extreme talent they BOTH clearly possess.
@2enchant Lebron the greatest of all time r u blind or something Lebron has won nothing yet MJ has six rings and isn't scared to take shots in the fourth quarter like LeBrick and KOBE has five rings tell Lebron to try and win a few rings on his own without Dwayne Wade carrying his pathetic ass then u talk about LeBrick being a great but he will never be the greatest of all time get that straight u worthless piece of trash and u just proved that u know nothing about basketball dumbass
Kobe's game is better than Lebron. However, Lebron is a more dominating athlete. As far as a skills perspective & variety of shots they can take & all around game Kobe is better & has a better skill set. Lebron is just such a dominant athlete that it's easy for him. I mean he's a great player & his skills & all around game are great too just not up to par with Kobe though. But I think Lebron is a tad bit of a better passer though
@BigDaddyMoe6 TAD bit better passer? What NBA are you watching? LeBron is LEAGUES beyond Kobe as a passer, one of the best in the league. LEAGUES beyond Kobe as a defender. Kobe is the better SCORER. People dont realize how much LeBron actually does. This is coming from a Kobe fan. I like LeBron too because I enjoy watching all of the great players, but Kobe fan first, and always Lakers 4 life. But If you say Kobe is the better "ALL AROUND" player you are just living in a fantasy land. :)
if lebron stats are better is because he entered the nba to a team that needed everything from him kobe entered to the best franchise in the world where he came from the bench and worked his way to the top
@liljohn995 Well, yes LeBron was better when he got in the league, probably. But mostly it is because he ended up in a trash team while Kobe had to fight his way into the lineup of a better team. Saying LeBron is a better basketball player than Kobe is something I'll never agree with however.
in addition to being entertained by Kobe beasting it up on the court, i also found amusement from all the old espn, fsn, tnt, and kcal9 scoreboards x)
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@TexansCavaliers i never said kobe was better stats wise than Mj but Kobe does have certain stats in his career that are better than Mj but overall mj has better stats but is he close it depends on what stats you use to comper them too...i think hes close and apparently so does 26 other people
Man, there is no way to discribe or qualify Kobe Bryant. Kobe is not the best player countting out MJ. Kobe is neither the best player ever. Kobe is just Kobe. That's more than a simple qualification or title. It's a supermacy of reality, it's a truth without an exception. You can be better or worse than him.
He is a unic player, not a level you can ever reach.
@Hawkhunter07 yes dawg i know kobe isnt as good as mj but he has the legenday footwork,postup game, fadaways,clutch performaces, and skills that many best players in the league today dont have....but not saying that he is the best player in the league today cuz hes past his prime but he is the 2nd best player of all time 1st being mj
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Kobe Bryant....i kinda start a feelin on u ...like u know....the feelin...and now i am on a KOBE FEVER!!! yeaaaaa.....thumb ups if u like Kobe Bryant...
and how effective would kobe be at the age of 40 he will probably average less than 20ppg around the mid or high teens and be a bench player or a key role player still starting but i think kobe would rather retire than to be bench or not be the main man on his team thats just what i think tho judging on his game skills and mentality and personality
and kobe's performance in the playoffs is not the main reason in they got swept you could tell he gave it all he got but couldnt do it phiscally/athleticaly.. he couldnt jump to do a dunk or a lay up or get enough lift for his shot if his life depended on it.. it was the whole team that was playing horrible, slacking and to slow on deffence and give the mavs credit they where the better team in that serries offensive wise and some what diffensive wise
@ibuffalou i never said kobe was better tallent wise and skills wise than mj but he does have legendary skills....you right mj in the wizzards scoring 20ppg was all skill but when you start to get in the mid 30s like kobe you cant rely on your athletic abily to help you perform at a high rate let alone with all the injuries he had you must relly on your heart, skills and footwork and stragety to help you perform well thats what mj did in the wizzards and thats what kobe did in the playoffs
You forget that Jordan in his 2nd 3peat was all about footwork and posting up and fadeaways, and he still managed to 3peat while dominating, Kobe just isn't as good as MJ
kobe needs more dribbles to get his shot than mj did. this is primary difference that makes mj better than kobe. thus, kobe's game facilitates more standing by teammates than mj's game. watch any of mj's games, and you will see he rarely takes more than 3 dribbles before he shoots in half court set, so mj gets his shots more in the course of the offense, and teammates anticipate better and make cuts or crash the boards (more movement) when mj catches the ball rather than stand.
@ibuffalou I think mj's counterparts (as in teammates) also were more fundamental them damnselves than the surrounding kobe counterparts. Like everyone is in Ahh of Jordan and same with kobe including his teammates, but the bulls knew better than to just twittle their thumbs like Pau and friends.
@WstCstFllwer that makes sense to me. truthfully, kobe's supporting cast overall is more talented for sure, but they are not fundamentally sound and so when the pressure gets going in the playoffs, unlike mj's supporting cast, kobe's cast has nothing to fall back on. so kobe's cast is more talented, but much less clutch or big game players than mj's teammates. but i think that is function of mj anyway. mj was more fundamentally sound and more of a bobby knight with his teammates than kobe.
this vid sucks donkey balls. bunch of open shots and open dunks. all kobe's dunks are just beating defenders to the spot, not overpowering anybody or chest-to-chest dunk on someone . contrastingly, here is a vid that has what im talking about. its the 3rd vid down on this page youtube.com/user/medestinier#p/u/13/UPRyG5bOOtY.. if you still think kobe is anywhere near mj, see your nearest mental health professional immediately. notice the difference in strength and power.
@ibuffalou kobe has legendary skills and tallent ....kobe in the 2011playoffs was a man that couldnt put his team on his back phisically cause of all his injuries...like the bad knee...bad finger....sprained his ankle in the first round hurt his neck...but kobe in his 15th year starting to get old was still able to average 25ppg in the season and 22ppg in the playoffs thats all tallent, and skill not althletic ability...you want athletic kobe go see him in his early years and in his prime years
@Calderon2833 are you kidding me? quit crying about injuries. that is so weak. and 25ppg in reg season and 22ppg in the playoffs is PATHETIC, not something to brag about, let alone compare to mj. you want to talk about skill not athletic ability? why don't you watch highlights of mj at 40, when he averaged 23ppg and 20ppg with wizards, had numerous 40 pt games, a 51 pt game, and 4 game winners (2 over athletic shawn marion). now THAT is skill. youtube "jordan wizards"
Best Player of all time Michael Jordan second Best player of all time Kobe bryant hes the closest thing we have to an MJ in stats, awards, rings, nba records, killer insticts,heart,clutch,post moves/ footwork, basketball i.q.etc... he's not better than Mj but they are in the same class it shouldnt be a shame to put kobe and jordan in the same class.. any thing lower than that will be desrespectable for kobe
@Calderon2833 hes better then jordan talent, and skills wise. jordan was great the second best but kobe has something to him you can just see when he plays hes swift. a natural killer!
@Calderon2833 Totally agree with you... The only differences between Kobe and Jordan are athleticism (almost no guard is as athletic as Jordan) and mentality. Kobe needed to learn how to be aggressive and get his teammates involved within the framework of the triangle, which is something Jordan learned how to do and he won championships because of it.
@Calderon2833 I don't know about that.. probably if you said #2 guards, but come on man Wilt Chamberlain avereged almost 30 RPG and 50 PPG in seasons of his career, Bill Russell wasn't a stat machine but had 11 Championships, 6 MVPs, and Oscar Robertson averaged triple doubles in seasons of his career, etc.
Also, MJ's skill level is clearly beyond Kobe's level. I guess you could say MJ is the best of all time overall, but Kobe's absolutely not second, still probably up there in the top 10.
@Chaptopher Kobe is #2 because if wilt chamberlin was in his prime in kobe's time zone he wouldn't pull the stuff he did back then now because the game has elevated alot since wilt chamberlin's time im sayin
@basketballbeast210 True that the basketball is different than it was in 60s in training, competition and the addition of 3 point line. But you can put Kobe in the same situation, a different training routine, strategy, and opponents. You could say he would be more or less effective. My point is no matter how you spin it, Wilt was a stand out player. I played basketball all my life and I know well enough that doing what he did every game is extremely difficult no matter who your playing.
@Chaptopher if kobe isn't #2 he is easily in the top 5. "kobe Bryant is the most fundamentally sound basketball player this game has ever seen" - Magic johnson "the best offensive player in the history of basketball" - forgot the dudes name but he's on sports center
to be honet i think the only other two you could even bring into the #2 conversation is oscar robertson and magic johnson but magic has also said kobe is the greatest laker to ever play the game...cont
@21Morgasm Kobe and Magic both won 5 Championships. Kobe had a 3peat, his third was without Shaq that came as very unexpected and led his team to a repeat. Magic fell short of a 3peat. Between the 2 you can argue, but they'r both respectable top Lakers. These guys were both Lakers their entire career (Wilt won one Championship in his couple years with the Lakers).
@Chaptopher cont...as far as russel and chamberlin go...russel was a great defender im not gonna take anything away from him cause i really like bill russel but he played in a league of like 10 teams plus you said it yourself bill russel wasn't a stat stuffer he averaged less than 20 ppg he was know for his shot blocking abilities but was only about 6'9" when he played against someone bigger than him case in point chamberlin his defensive presence really wasn't there...Cont
@Chaptopher Cont...and chamberlin in my opinion isn't even the greatest center ever! when he first entered the league there were 4 players over 6'8 in the league and it had expanded to a few more teams now...so he's playing about 8 or 9 teams with a center under 6'8" which he was much stronger than and much bigger than which is why scoring was so easy for him as far as rebounding teams back then were averaging 150 possesions a game to todays 90-100. kareem was a better center
@21Morgasm But come on man the guy ran marathons and stuff. He's a true athlete. Yao Ming is (or was) about 6 or 7 inches taller than your avg center, but he never did anything close to what Wilt did. But I like your reasoning and I think that's reasonable to say Kareem's better, but back to the Kobe talk, you want MJ at #1 okay. But Kobe at # 2? No. He's up there but not #2.
@Chaptopher m not taking anythingaway from the stilt as far as that goes ya for a 7'1" 7'2 dude he was an amazing athlete but theres a big difference between a great athlete and a great basketball player which is why lebron isn't beter than kobe either the dude could be tight end or a freaking middle linebacker in the nfl he's what 260 and runs like a 4.4but lebron relies to much on athletic ability just like wilt because lets face it their athletic ability is enough
@Chaptopher wilt was an amazing enough athlete he could probably pick up and sport and be good, good not great, at it with time but a personal opinion to be great in a sport you have become more than an athlete which wilt did not because he didn't need to he was the best of his time, but this was also a time lacking many rules such as 3 in the key! Kobe wasn't blessed with the godly athleticism the bron stilt and jordan have...
@Chaptopher lebron and wilt both move like they should be 10 inches shorter and jordan was just as strong as lebron with better leaping ability but jordan became a student of the game which is why he is the g.o.a.t in my opinion he didn't just rely on athleticism which is what kobe had to do! kobe has spent so much time to become a "basketball player" not just a professional athelete and the result is "the most fundamentally sound player to ever play this game" and...
@21Morgasm Yeah, that's LBJ's downfall. Just like Shaq.
They'd give you 30 every night with a ton of boards assists but when it come down to when the halfcourt defense is set late in the 4th, lane crowded, you can't go to Shaq (FT) and you can't go to LBJ, he tends to disappear.
I heard the heat were losing the 4th BADLY earlier, and I thought immediately "yeah, Wade must be having an awful night" if they can't close.
Sure enough, James 11/18 for 28pts and Wade 4/17. Says a lot.
@thiennguyenX2 its true he's just so athletic for his build that he doesn't care he's a good player i hate him but i'll give him that, but as far as ive seen he's not a student to the game he's so much quicker than any sf that are his size except maybe durant but you'll never seen him try to become a great dribbler and cross people over like kobe the ones that can keep up with him are no where near 260 with his strength but you'll never see him improve his post game so they can iso him down low
@thiennguyenX2 he'll never be a finisher around the hoop if the dunk isn't there both kobe and michael have some of the most insane lay ups and like you said cant close and definitley not a leader
@21Morgasm I think what will prove our assumptions on LBJ will be when he gets older and slower. Jordan and KB both has huge skillsets to fall back on, MJ developed a 3-pointer and relied more on his jumper and KB his J and his footwork. LBJ has none of that, I don't see him developing one honestly.
Yeah, ISO LBJ late, he has to dish and all the blame goes on his teammates if they fail to do his job. smh. Clear, exploitable flaws, just like Shaq but no one ever blames LBJ or Shaq for lacking.
@thiennguyenX2 exactly ive told people over and over when bron gets older and if he has any sort of knee problems or anything like kobe and he cant rely on athletecism anymore he'll be an average at best ball player no one believes me haha
@Chaptopher a basketball iq unparraleled by anyone except jordan, also "the best mid range player in the history of basketball"i think without question jordan is the best basketball player ever and just a matter of personal opinion but oscar robertson is i think the only person you could argue to be 2 if not kobe. im sorry but you put wilt in the game in the 80's 90's which to me was the big man era, hakeem, ewing, robinson, barkely, kareem, etc he never scores 100 ina game or 50 ppg in a season
@Chaptopher and ya like you said you could still argue magic and kobe the 2 greatest lakers of all time in my opinion magic was the greatest point guard but hearing magic chuck other respectable hall of famers and everyone on sports center say repeatedly that kobe is the greatest laker of all time that just puts kobe ahead of magic to me. my top five gratest players of all time are
@diggy675 agreed kobe is a better dribbler and while jordan may average more assists i think kobe is a better passer and he's a better shooter idk who finishes better at the rim they are both ridiculous and jordan was a better defender/athlete
@Chaptopher but thanks for not bein a complete douche like most people that argue these points and dont actually present any valid reasoning behind their points
based on kobe only averaging 22ppg in this years playoffs and being virtually helpless against the mavs, i'm pretty certain that the 38 yr old mj would beat the current kobe. i'm talking about the mj that still dropped 23ppg and hit for 40 many times and even hit for 50 once. when is the last time kobe dropped 50? see 13th vid from bottom on this page and honestly evaluate whether the CURRENT kobe could match mj.. youtube.com/user/medestinier?feature=watch.
this vid sucks donkey balls. bunch of open shots and open dunks. all kobe's dunks are just beating defenders to the spot, not overpowering anybody or chest-to-chest dunk on someone . contrastingly, here is a vid that has what im talking about. its the 13th vid down on this page youtube.com/user/medestinier#p/u/13/UPRyG5bOOtY.. if you still think kobe is anywhere near mj, see your nearest mental health professional immediately. notice the difference in strength and power.
@ibuffalou I agree that Jordan is better overall than Kobe but to be fair Kobe is a great basketball player for what he does on the court. He does help his team win games.
@AkaJLee24 i feel it is my duty :) to enlighten fans that don't have nuanced knowledbge of the game. i try to give a more rational perspective. based on your response, i believe my efforts are not in vain as i notice you did not refute anything i said.
@AkaJLee24 keep in mind that the vid i referenced was mj dropping 42 in 3 quarters agianst the eastern conf champs, all on kenyon martin, richard jeff, and jason kidd, all exceptional defenders, particularly martin, which mj just abuses repeatedly. the vid shows just how superior mj's post game was to any non-big in the history of the game. i mean, he really abuses kenyon.
@ibuffalou while i won't say that kobe is better then jordan yet he's not as far behind as you want him to be. Kobe is already a better ball handler and shooter then jordan was. Jordan was easily the most athletic player of all time only other person that comes close is Lebron. So yeah. And as for kobe only being able to beat defenders to the spot thats the point of basketball. Your suppose to make the game easy not harder by trying to run through everybody.
@gospellover3223 the only reason you say kobe is a better shooter is because he HAD to shoot more jumpshots than mj to have a similar offensive output because kobe couldn't attack the basket as effectively as mj. kobe's game was based more around the jumpshot than mj. however, if mj needed to shoot the 3 to be effective, he could. i'm sure i don't need to remind you of the 92' finals, when everyone said the same about clyde, that clyde was a better shooter.. mj didn't like that very much.
@ibuffalou and of course Kobe couldnt attack the basket as well as MJ who could? The man was a freak of nature. But its also a testament to Kobe dedication and work the fact that he is even able to produce almost the same numbers as jordan while shooting jumpshots is incredible. It also shows kobe's ability to understand the game on a different level then jordan did as well
@gospellover3223 even though mj went to the hole more, there were plenty of games where he took what the defense gave him and hit jumpshots at an even better clip than kobe... i would direct you to youtube footage of mj's 64 point game against shaq's magic back in the day. first of all, that is the most lackadaisacal, easy 60 you will ever see anyone score.. ever. secondly, he scored the 64 mostly on all jumpshots.
@ibuffalou ahh the infamous jordan hit 6 in one half stat. Okay he got hot more props to him but don't try to convince yourself jordan was a great 3 point shooter its impossible. As for midrange Kobe and Jordan are unparelled in their ability to makes shots from that area but i give the edge to kobe because of the degree of difficulty his are taken with. Jordan was so athletically superior to anyone else he could get open at any time so thats the real reason i think Kobe is the better shooter.
@gospellover3223 sorry bro. but i checked the stats. mj and kobe have identical career 3 pt percentages in the regular season and playoffs. so i guess kobe can't do ANYTHING better than mj !!! lol..
@ibuffalou and that right there is one of my pet peeves when it comes to basketball. Okay they don't identical 3pt % Kobe as of right now is shooting .339 to jordans .327 and thats with Kobe shooting almost 4 times as many. And don't compare regular season stats to playoffs everybody knows defenses play so much harder in the playoffs its not even funny. And jordan didnt even make the playoffs with the wizard he hurt them more then anything. I'm not saing jordan didnt understand the game he was a
@gospellover3223 did you just say that mj hurt the wizards? this is what i'm talking about - you ignore the facts, kind of like many politicians. the FACTS are that the wizards won 20 games before mj joined, and 37 games both seasons mj played. so how did he make them worse exactly? did you see mj drop 51 against baron davis hornets, many 40 point games, and 4 game winners with the wizards? he did this at 40. i'm not even sure kobe could do these things now at 33.
@ibuffalou and mind and try to understand what i'm saying. Jordan is without a doubt the greatest athlete to pick up a basketball and a exceptional mind but even phil jackson has gone on record of saying kobe is more skilled then mj. And what i meant by hurt the wizards is something you have to look pass the numbers to see. All jordan did was chase his ego when he came out of retirement. He hurt that franchise because one he didnt do anything but pad his stats. He was a a complete asshole to
@ibuffalou kwame brown and Doug collins his coach. Not to mention he ran rip hamilton out of town because he refuse to back down from the almighty mj. And if mj had stayed in retirement the wizards would have ended up with better draft picks in both 02 and 03 and we all know how good the 03 class was. Kwame brown probably would've panned out into a decent NBA center. Not an all star but he couldve easily been a double double guy. And they could've gotten a legit superstar on thier team faster
@ibuffalou so on that note i'm gonna end with this. The kobe vs jordan debate will probably go on forever because they are so similar. While jordan will always be called the greatest thanks to the media. You have to realize that there are some things that kobe does better then jordan and jordan does better then kobe its the same for every legend in history. I'm not knocking history i'm just saying stop putting him on such a high pedestal he did have faults. Just like everyone else
@gospellover3223 why do i put mj on a pedestal? because he's the greatest of all time. i don't think you have ever watched mj's game closely before. because anyone who had would not be saying kobe is equal. you knock mj because he averaged 20ppg as a 40 year old and say he ONLY shot 45% from the field. lets see what kobe has left when he's 40. he is already down to 25ppg in regular season and a PATHETIC 22ppg in playoffs. but he's as good as mj... gtfo dude you have no logic
@ibuffalou dude i've watched more games then you'll ever know i got jordan rookies games taped on vhs so dont't got ther with me. And i love how you never refute any of my arguements you just keep bringing up the same stats over and over haha. And i'm failing to see how kobe 25ppg is down when that is his career average and he played less minutes then has in like 5 seasons not to mentioned he's playing with more injuries then mj ever did. And please don't bring up the flu games cause thats
@gospellover3223 how can you acknowledge that kobe has inferior stats and played horrible in the playoffs yet you say kobe is as good as mj? how can that be? you do understand that 25ppg is nowhere near mj's level right? and 22ppg in the playoffs is like gilbert arenas, not mj. mj would not have been swept by the mavs. it isn't like kobe didn't have a ton of talent around him and he still got swept. so its impossible to be as good as mj with that kind of performance.
@gospellover3223 also, let me help you out. rather than have to watch old vhs tapes (how painstaking is that), i recommend the 3rd vid down on this page.. youtube.com/user/medestinier#p/u/2/UPRyG5bOOtY
@ibuffalou being sick not injured i've been playing ball my whole life and i can tell you straight up that i would rather play with the flu then have a messed a knee for an entire season. And since when did 22 points in playoffs become pathetic most players dream of that. Granted kobe did play horrible but so did the entire team they were sick of playing and everybody except kobe and bynum dang near quit.
i never see Kobe travel
MrTrix678 5 hours ago
lol @ the brittany spears comment
JeffT8624 9 hours ago
People who like Kobe but not LeBron aren't real basketball fans. Sorry. They're both spectacular players, hating one and loving the other is plain idiotic. Get their dicks out of your mouths acting like they're your boyfriends or something and just enjoy the extreme talent they BOTH clearly possess.
bombardsquads 13 hours ago
@bombardsquads i dont like lebron but i can acknowledge that he's a great player
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iHateDIS9 1 day ago
illest video of kobe.. BLACK MAMBA BITCH!
xbenvh 2 days ago
Hey Kobe, when are you going to come to one of my concerts? Love ya Babe *Kisses* <333
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DirectorRico 1 day ago
@DirectorRico i know right lmfao fucking britty spears
yungthepker 1 day ago
at 3:52 kobe was like i'ma slow it down and Sike!!1 im just assist it to ariza for the slam
TheJRayson 2 days ago
such a good kobe video
cvelardeproductions 2 days ago
Kobe schooling Denver over and over
KobeandNash2413 2 days ago
Lebron is the greatest of all time
2enchant 3 days ago
@2enchant Lebron the greatest of all time r u blind or something Lebron has won nothing yet MJ has six rings and isn't scared to take shots in the fourth quarter like LeBrick and KOBE has five rings tell Lebron to try and win a few rings on his own without Dwayne Wade carrying his pathetic ass then u talk about LeBrick being a great but he will never be the greatest of all time get that straight u worthless piece of trash and u just proved that u know nothing about basketball dumbass
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Ice187Cube 3 days ago
You just saw Kobe Bryant owning 27 Teams
KobeandNash2413 4 days ago
Kobe's game is better than Lebron. However, Lebron is a more dominating athlete. As far as a skills perspective & variety of shots they can take & all around game Kobe is better & has a better skill set. Lebron is just such a dominant athlete that it's easy for him. I mean he's a great player & his skills & all around game are great too just not up to par with Kobe though. But I think Lebron is a tad bit of a better passer though
BigDaddyMoe6 5 days ago
@BigDaddyMoe6 TAD bit better passer? What NBA are you watching? LeBron is LEAGUES beyond Kobe as a passer, one of the best in the league. LEAGUES beyond Kobe as a defender. Kobe is the better SCORER. People dont realize how much LeBron actually does. This is coming from a Kobe fan. I like LeBron too because I enjoy watching all of the great players, but Kobe fan first, and always Lakers 4 life. But If you say Kobe is the better "ALL AROUND" player you are just living in a fantasy land. :)
bombardsquads 13 hours ago
Song?
KobeandNash2413 5 days ago
IF U DELETE THIS VIDEO, IM GONNA KILL U! LOL
makulitmae0725 6 days ago 4
As nice as this post is all it's doing so far is reminding me that Ariza, Farmar and Odom are not with the Lakers any more.
libertatus 6 days ago 2
5:28 Bitch please this is Kobe
xxPOSELSKAxx 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
if lebron stats are better is because he entered the nba to a team that needed everything from him kobe entered to the best franchise in the world where he came from the bench and worked his way to the top
kebr3n 6 days ago
@kebr3n that just proves that he was better from the start. kobe had to come off the bench while lebron started for his whole career
liljohn995 6 days ago
@liljohn995 Well, yes LeBron was better when he got in the league, probably. But mostly it is because he ended up in a trash team while Kobe had to fight his way into the lineup of a better team. Saying LeBron is a better basketball player than Kobe is something I'll never agree with however.
TheBaxxor 4 days ago
his shot over Dwight is sooo sick
dtamyf 1 week ago 2
wat is the soundtrack
MonkeeeDLuffy 1 week ago
How can you stop the ustoppable
JFORS869 1 week ago
7:27 MAMBA, there goes that man
TheMonhoodoi 1 week ago
unstoppable
prince1994817 1 week ago
5:26....sorry dwight
TheSprinkles5o 1 week ago
no doubt the best of our generation.
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michael is a teacher
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extremylarks24 1 week ago
Soundtrack please?
Petar2991 1 week ago
6:14 - Com 'on Lebron, You can't touch this...Aha
kuxika94 1 week ago
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kuxika94 1 week ago
Mamba, there goes that Man!!
10bobbyjoe3 1 week ago
this video makes me horny
AriTheWolfman 1 week ago
@AriTheWolfman look at 1:34
1234567ez 1 week ago
kobe bryant is awesome !!
thumbs up if u AGREE !!
jkmjcmdmp 1 week ago
in addition to being entertained by Kobe beasting it up on the court, i also found amusement from all the old espn, fsn, tnt, and kcal9 scoreboards x)
tkto20 1 week ago
fuck this music
ykahro 1 week ago
lebron james trying to do what kobe does... he doesn't fail but travel :/
MegaChunti 1 week ago
Girl with the Funny talent Anyone??
chuckmarks2010 1 week ago
@chuckmarks2010 Yeah :DD
ViDiLTU 1 week ago
what is the name of the song? please
zipotero1 1 week ago
@liljohn995: please tell me who got more rings lebron or brain Scalabrine?..ehh that's what i thought BITCH... nuff said.
chokz93 1 week ago
it's 11pm where I'm at and now I wanna play ball heading out
SharpWanker 2 weeks ago
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LeBron James is the greatest basketball player of all time. No one is better than him. Kobe doesn't compare, clearly. Jordan? Hype job.
LeBron is the best, and you people know it.
kurten22 2 weeks ago
can Kobe also do the wierd eyebrow dance to this music?
Luiseota 2 weeks ago
if you SAY KOBE THANK YOU
if you SAY LEBRON FUCK YOU.
iHateDIS9 3 weeks ago
1:30 if only i could do that
LALakersNo24FTW 3 weeks ago
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Awesome video! I have a trick shot video and I want to know if it's worth my time to make vol. 2. But I need to know what you think of it. If u have a few minutes check it out. search Money $hots and it should be the 3rd one down. It's uploaded by cubsfan711. I know I act retarded after everyshot so you don't have to tell me.
RCortez1986 3 weeks ago
4:42 That was gonna be a Beast Dunk
ELFERNANDO17 3 weeks ago
the beat is great (as it is the video) ... what is the name of it?
lottomatico 3 weeks ago
who made this mix..he has a great talent
vlamis1 3 weeks ago
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hey please search elijah bouldin if you like basketball it will be the first video on there and also search music video of cookie jar and go to the third page you will see a kid in blue plad with a cat it's the 5th one down I would really apreaciate it idk how else to get my vids known unless i went to this awesome video and left this comment also please leave comments and likes or dislikes thankyou very much.
elijahbouldin3 3 weeks ago
kobeis the best
nayarbelrey01 3 weeks ago
Im a huge kobe and jordan fannn, but its time to move on from the Kobe, jordan and Lebron debate...
its time to move on to the D rose vs K durant debate..........
KingAH079 3 weeks ago
@KingAH079 DRose all the way :D
19999228 3 weeks ago 2
I came here for Kobe and the music behind the video was awkwardly familiar..I got it - the girl with dancing eyebrows!
MrRONMIS 3 weeks ago 19
@MrRONMIS this came first though
e23456g 18 hours ago
Dont get rid of gasol hes in a lot of these plays and hes awesome but so is ariza and hes gone now....miss you ariza
HighMagi 3 weeks ago
ele e d+ o cara é muito BOM !!!
zika9709 4 weeks ago
05:26
potassiumrocky 4 weeks ago
MUSIC: FreeStyle - Don't Stop The Rock
sera4rema 4 weeks ago
whats the title of the music?
aianezz 4 weeks ago
So this is where the music "Girl with a Funny Talent" is from.
mysteryman1325 1 month ago
best 8 mins of my life
IFearWork 1 month ago
this porn has good music..
tyzon486 1 month ago
he had to use everything in his body to get up and dunk lmao 1:36
ThingsYouWant2C 1 month ago
kobe's wife just played his ass to the tune of 50% ahahahahahha what a bitch!
zlcap2015 1 month ago 20
@zlcap2015 yea shes fukedd!!! heard kobe bought her a lambo with a special order for automatic gearbox!!!!!
Faisdragon 2 weeks ago
I miss our old Laker team :(
janin101 1 month ago
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6:14 jizzed...
munchiez0011 1 month ago
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munchiez0011 1 month ago
the music fit...good job
muhammadumarJA 1 month ago
he can even make leon powe look good
jon1234560 1 month ago
hey where is thet title's phrase
Denielgunz 1 month ago
kobe:splash!
Dwade:flash!
Gwallace:crash!
Ljames:trash...
chokz93 1 month ago 44
@chokz93 please tell me how averaging 29 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists per game is trash...
liljohn995 3 weeks ago 21
@liljohn995 are you talking about lebron's stats? just sayin' son
fumihirotsumura23 1 week ago
@fumihirotsumura23 yes im talking about lebrons stats
liljohn995 6 days ago
@chokz93 lul lebron aint trash, kwame brown
dnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 3 weeks ago
@chokz93 * Drose: flash
poopascoopaloop 2 weeks ago
@poopascoopaloop Dwade: ORIGINAL FLASH lol
CODMW2SCARH 2 weeks ago
@CODMW2SCARH D.rose faster flash
poopascoopaloop 1 week ago
@chokz93 ahhahahah you made my day
MuslimElhamdulilah1 1 week ago
look at Turiaf at 1:35 hahahahaha!!
MrBamnmboks 1 month ago
@TexansCavaliers i never said kobe was better stats wise than Mj but Kobe does have certain stats in his career that are better than Mj but overall mj has better stats but is he close it depends on what stats you use to comper them too...i think hes close and apparently so does 26 other people
Calderon2833 1 month ago
I made it about 1:30 before I had to stop and just say god fuckin dayum he's good
Datkylekid 1 month ago
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Man, there is no way to discribe or qualify Kobe Bryant. Kobe is not the best player countting out MJ. Kobe is neither the best player ever. Kobe is just Kobe. That's more than a simple qualification or title. It's a supermacy of reality, it's a truth without an exception. You can be better or worse than him.
He is a unic player, not a level you can ever reach.
Jsteingaia 1 month ago
LMAO his face at the shannon brown block...and luke, the fuck you doin?
ShietEverywhere 1 month ago
If you have time can you quickly check out my new kobe mix
awesome4104 1 month ago
song name?
XxTheJuanmaxX 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
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@XxTheJuanmaxX Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock
shinkuuz 1 month ago
@Hawkhunter07 yes dawg i know kobe isnt as good as mj but he has the legenday footwork,postup game, fadaways,clutch performaces, and skills that many best players in the league today dont have....but not saying that he is the best player in the league today cuz hes past his prime but he is the 2nd best player of all time 1st being mj
Calderon2833 1 month ago
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DONT READ THIS CAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS. YOU WILL BE KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE. HOWEVER IF YOU DO NOT POST THIS TO AT LEAST 3 VIDEOS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN THE NEXT 2 DAYS. NOW UV STARTED READING THIS DUNT STOP. THIS IS SO SCARY PUT THIS ON AT LEAST 5 VIDEOS IN THE NEXT 143 MINUTES WHEN UR DONE PRESS F6 AND UR LOVERS NAME WILL APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS THIS IS SO SCARY CAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS
MrLeopard177 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
ROFL Pau Gasol with the lazy dunk at 1:01. Classic Pau
WstCstFllwer 1 month ago
this cold videos
anderson232126 1 month ago in playlist amderson232226
gay music of all time to go with the greatest ever to play the game besides MJ of course and then allen iverson for pound for pound
whooohooo25 1 month ago
@whooohooo25 you obviously dont respect classic breakin/poppin' original hip hop break dancing beats from the 80's. Shit is vintage classic. Cant expect everybody to like it though i guess
WstCstFllwer 1 month ago
Mamba there goes that man
HitsugayaToshy 1 month ago
kobe is still no.1 except mj.. very talented.. no one can stop him.
miel2556 1 month ago
Kobe Bryant....i kinda start a feelin on u ...like u know....the feelin...and now i am on a KOBE FEVER!!! yeaaaaa.....thumb ups if u like Kobe Bryant...
MrJupiterThunder 1 month ago
and how effective would kobe be at the age of 40 he will probably average less than 20ppg around the mid or high teens and be a bench player or a key role player still starting but i think kobe would rather retire than to be bench or not be the main man on his team thats just what i think tho judging on his game skills and mentality and personality
Calderon2833 1 month ago
and kobe's performance in the playoffs is not the main reason in they got swept you could tell he gave it all he got but couldnt do it phiscally/athleticaly.. he couldnt jump to do a dunk or a lay up or get enough lift for his shot if his life depended on it.. it was the whole team that was playing horrible, slacking and to slow on deffence and give the mavs credit they where the better team in that serries offensive wise and some what diffensive wise
Calderon2833 1 month ago
@ibuffalou i never said kobe was better tallent wise and skills wise than mj but he does have legendary skills....you right mj in the wizzards scoring 20ppg was all skill but when you start to get in the mid 30s like kobe you cant rely on your athletic abily to help you perform at a high rate let alone with all the injuries he had you must relly on your heart, skills and footwork and stragety to help you perform well thats what mj did in the wizzards and thats what kobe did in the playoffs
Calderon2833 1 month ago
@Calderon2833
You forget that Jordan in his 2nd 3peat was all about footwork and posting up and fadeaways, and he still managed to 3peat while dominating, Kobe just isn't as good as MJ
Hawkhunter07 1 month ago
@Hawkhunter07 come on man. 2nd best bud
WstCstFllwer 1 month ago
kobe needs more dribbles to get his shot than mj did. this is primary difference that makes mj better than kobe. thus, kobe's game facilitates more standing by teammates than mj's game. watch any of mj's games, and you will see he rarely takes more than 3 dribbles before he shoots in half court set, so mj gets his shots more in the course of the offense, and teammates anticipate better and make cuts or crash the boards (more movement) when mj catches the ball rather than stand.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou I think mj's counterparts (as in teammates) also were more fundamental them damnselves than the surrounding kobe counterparts. Like everyone is in Ahh of Jordan and same with kobe including his teammates, but the bulls knew better than to just twittle their thumbs like Pau and friends.
WstCstFllwer 1 month ago
@WstCstFllwer that makes sense to me. truthfully, kobe's supporting cast overall is more talented for sure, but they are not fundamentally sound and so when the pressure gets going in the playoffs, unlike mj's supporting cast, kobe's cast has nothing to fall back on. so kobe's cast is more talented, but much less clutch or big game players than mj's teammates. but i think that is function of mj anyway. mj was more fundamentally sound and more of a bobby knight with his teammates than kobe.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
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this vid sucks donkey balls. bunch of open shots and open dunks. all kobe's dunks are just beating defenders to the spot, not overpowering anybody or chest-to-chest dunk on someone . contrastingly, here is a vid that has what im talking about. its the 3rd vid down on this page youtube.com/user/medestinier#p/u/13/UPRyG5bOOtY.. if you still think kobe is anywhere near mj, see your nearest mental health professional immediately. notice the difference in strength and power.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
Michael Jordan is still the Beast
AgentVanilla7 1 month ago
this is what i do instead of an essay
ELFERNANDO17 1 month ago 24
@ibuffalou kobe has legendary skills and tallent ....kobe in the 2011playoffs was a man that couldnt put his team on his back phisically cause of all his injuries...like the bad knee...bad finger....sprained his ankle in the first round hurt his neck...but kobe in his 15th year starting to get old was still able to average 25ppg in the season and 22ppg in the playoffs thats all tallent, and skill not althletic ability...you want athletic kobe go see him in his early years and in his prime years
Calderon2833 1 month ago
@Calderon2833 are you kidding me? quit crying about injuries. that is so weak. and 25ppg in reg season and 22ppg in the playoffs is PATHETIC, not something to brag about, let alone compare to mj. you want to talk about skill not athletic ability? why don't you watch highlights of mj at 40, when he averaged 23ppg and 20ppg with wizards, had numerous 40 pt games, a 51 pt game, and 4 game winners (2 over athletic shawn marion). now THAT is skill. youtube "jordan wizards"
ibuffalou 1 month ago
this song's great match with the dunk and shoot
winsonho123 1 month ago
very good clips, but the music ruined everything!
xSanWi 1 month ago
and by the way what other player other than kobe was considered to be one of the best the the league still... going in his 16th year in the nba
Calderon2833 1 month ago
Best Player of all time Michael Jordan second Best player of all time Kobe bryant hes the closest thing we have to an MJ in stats, awards, rings, nba records, killer insticts,heart,clutch,post moves/ footwork, basketball i.q.etc... he's not better than Mj but they are in the same class it shouldnt be a shame to put kobe and jordan in the same class.. any thing lower than that will be desrespectable for kobe
Calderon2833 1 month ago 45
@Calderon2833 hes better then jordan talent, and skills wise. jordan was great the second best but kobe has something to him you can just see when he plays hes swift. a natural killer!
fingersai 1 month ago
@Calderon2833 MJ learned alot from DR J so u gotta give him credit to
supahswag1 1 month ago
@Calderon283 stats wise? you serious? lmaoooo
HE DOESNT EVEN COME CLOSE
TexansCavaliers 1 month ago
@Calderon2833 Totally agree with you... The only differences between Kobe and Jordan are athleticism (almost no guard is as athletic as Jordan) and mentality. Kobe needed to learn how to be aggressive and get his teammates involved within the framework of the triangle, which is something Jordan learned how to do and he won championships because of it.
mattroom 1 month ago in playlist Basketball Mixes
@Calderon2833 you went hard for those thumbs up lol
ThingsYouWant2C 1 month ago
@Calderon2833 I don't know about that.. probably if you said #2 guards, but come on man Wilt Chamberlain avereged almost 30 RPG and 50 PPG in seasons of his career, Bill Russell wasn't a stat machine but had 11 Championships, 6 MVPs, and Oscar Robertson averaged triple doubles in seasons of his career, etc.
Also, MJ's skill level is clearly beyond Kobe's level. I guess you could say MJ is the best of all time overall, but Kobe's absolutely not second, still probably up there in the top 10.
Chaptopher 1 month ago
@Chaptopher Kobe is #2 because if wilt chamberlin was in his prime in kobe's time zone he wouldn't pull the stuff he did back then now because the game has elevated alot since wilt chamberlin's time im sayin
basketballbeast210 1 month ago
@basketballbeast210 True that the basketball is different than it was in 60s in training, competition and the addition of 3 point line. But you can put Kobe in the same situation, a different training routine, strategy, and opponents. You could say he would be more or less effective. My point is no matter how you spin it, Wilt was a stand out player. I played basketball all my life and I know well enough that doing what he did every game is extremely difficult no matter who your playing.
Chaptopher 1 month ago
@Chaptopher if kobe isn't #2 he is easily in the top 5. "kobe Bryant is the most fundamentally sound basketball player this game has ever seen" - Magic johnson "the best offensive player in the history of basketball" - forgot the dudes name but he's on sports center
to be honet i think the only other two you could even bring into the #2 conversation is oscar robertson and magic johnson but magic has also said kobe is the greatest laker to ever play the game...cont
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@21Morgasm Kobe and Magic both won 5 Championships. Kobe had a 3peat, his third was without Shaq that came as very unexpected and led his team to a repeat. Magic fell short of a 3peat. Between the 2 you can argue, but they'r both respectable top Lakers. These guys were both Lakers their entire career (Wilt won one Championship in his couple years with the Lakers).
Chaptopher 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher cont...as far as russel and chamberlin go...russel was a great defender im not gonna take anything away from him cause i really like bill russel but he played in a league of like 10 teams plus you said it yourself bill russel wasn't a stat stuffer he averaged less than 20 ppg he was know for his shot blocking abilities but was only about 6'9" when he played against someone bigger than him case in point chamberlin his defensive presence really wasn't there...Cont
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher Cont...and chamberlin in my opinion isn't even the greatest center ever! when he first entered the league there were 4 players over 6'8 in the league and it had expanded to a few more teams now...so he's playing about 8 or 9 teams with a center under 6'8" which he was much stronger than and much bigger than which is why scoring was so easy for him as far as rebounding teams back then were averaging 150 possesions a game to todays 90-100. kareem was a better center
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@21Morgasm But come on man the guy ran marathons and stuff. He's a true athlete. Yao Ming is (or was) about 6 or 7 inches taller than your avg center, but he never did anything close to what Wilt did. But I like your reasoning and I think that's reasonable to say Kareem's better, but back to the Kobe talk, you want MJ at #1 okay. But Kobe at # 2? No. He's up there but not #2.
Chaptopher 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher m not taking anythingaway from the stilt as far as that goes ya for a 7'1" 7'2 dude he was an amazing athlete but theres a big difference between a great athlete and a great basketball player which is why lebron isn't beter than kobe either the dude could be tight end or a freaking middle linebacker in the nfl he's what 260 and runs like a 4.4but lebron relies to much on athletic ability just like wilt because lets face it their athletic ability is enough
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher wilt was an amazing enough athlete he could probably pick up and sport and be good, good not great, at it with time but a personal opinion to be great in a sport you have become more than an athlete which wilt did not because he didn't need to he was the best of his time, but this was also a time lacking many rules such as 3 in the key! Kobe wasn't blessed with the godly athleticism the bron stilt and jordan have...
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher lebron and wilt both move like they should be 10 inches shorter and jordan was just as strong as lebron with better leaping ability but jordan became a student of the game which is why he is the g.o.a.t in my opinion he didn't just rely on athleticism which is what kobe had to do! kobe has spent so much time to become a "basketball player" not just a professional athelete and the result is "the most fundamentally sound player to ever play this game" and...
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@21Morgasm Yeah, that's LBJ's downfall. Just like Shaq.
They'd give you 30 every night with a ton of boards assists but when it come down to when the halfcourt defense is set late in the 4th, lane crowded, you can't go to Shaq (FT) and you can't go to LBJ, he tends to disappear.
I heard the heat were losing the 4th BADLY earlier, and I thought immediately "yeah, Wade must be having an awful night" if they can't close.
Sure enough, James 11/18 for 28pts and Wade 4/17. Says a lot.
thiennguyenX2 4 weeks ago
@thiennguyenX2 its true he's just so athletic for his build that he doesn't care he's a good player i hate him but i'll give him that, but as far as ive seen he's not a student to the game he's so much quicker than any sf that are his size except maybe durant but you'll never seen him try to become a great dribbler and cross people over like kobe the ones that can keep up with him are no where near 260 with his strength but you'll never see him improve his post game so they can iso him down low
21Morgasm 3 weeks ago
@thiennguyenX2 he'll never be a finisher around the hoop if the dunk isn't there both kobe and michael have some of the most insane lay ups and like you said cant close and definitley not a leader
21Morgasm 3 weeks ago
@21Morgasm I think what will prove our assumptions on LBJ will be when he gets older and slower. Jordan and KB both has huge skillsets to fall back on, MJ developed a 3-pointer and relied more on his jumper and KB his J and his footwork. LBJ has none of that, I don't see him developing one honestly.
Yeah, ISO LBJ late, he has to dish and all the blame goes on his teammates if they fail to do his job. smh. Clear, exploitable flaws, just like Shaq but no one ever blames LBJ or Shaq for lacking.
thiennguyenX2 3 weeks ago
@thiennguyenX2 exactly ive told people over and over when bron gets older and if he has any sort of knee problems or anything like kobe and he cant rely on athletecism anymore he'll be an average at best ball player no one believes me haha
21Morgasm 3 weeks ago
@Chaptopher a basketball iq unparraleled by anyone except jordan, also "the best mid range player in the history of basketball"i think without question jordan is the best basketball player ever and just a matter of personal opinion but oscar robertson is i think the only person you could argue to be 2 if not kobe. im sorry but you put wilt in the game in the 80's 90's which to me was the big man era, hakeem, ewing, robinson, barkely, kareem, etc he never scores 100 ina game or 50 ppg in a season
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher and ya like you said you could still argue magic and kobe the 2 greatest lakers of all time in my opinion magic was the greatest point guard but hearing magic chuck other respectable hall of famers and everyone on sports center say repeatedly that kobe is the greatest laker of all time that just puts kobe ahead of magic to me. my top five gratest players of all time are
#1 jordan
#2kobe
#3 oscar
#4 magic
$5 kareem just my opinion
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@21Morgasm in some things kobe is better than jordan
diggy675 4 weeks ago
@diggy675 agreed kobe is a better dribbler and while jordan may average more assists i think kobe is a better passer and he's a better shooter idk who finishes better at the rim they are both ridiculous and jordan was a better defender/athlete
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
@Chaptopher but thanks for not bein a complete douche like most people that argue these points and dont actually present any valid reasoning behind their points
21Morgasm 4 weeks ago
great song. NOT
hatspencer 1 month ago
6:45 is a TRAVELLLLL his pivot is his right foot
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Best part from 0:26 to 0:33.
DENISxD100 1 month ago
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based on kobe only averaging 22ppg in this years playoffs and being virtually helpless against the mavs, i'm pretty certain that the 38 yr old mj would beat the current kobe. i'm talking about the mj that still dropped 23ppg and hit for 40 many times and even hit for 50 once. when is the last time kobe dropped 50? see 13th vid from bottom on this page and honestly evaluate whether the CURRENT kobe could match mj.. youtube.com/user/medestinier?feature=watch.
ibuffalou 2 months ago
this vid sucks donkey balls. bunch of open shots and open dunks. all kobe's dunks are just beating defenders to the spot, not overpowering anybody or chest-to-chest dunk on someone . contrastingly, here is a vid that has what im talking about. its the 13th vid down on this page youtube.com/user/medestinier#p/u/13/UPRyG5bOOtY.. if you still think kobe is anywhere near mj, see your nearest mental health professional immediately. notice the difference in strength and power.
ibuffalou 2 months ago
@ibuffalou I agree that Jordan is better overall than Kobe but to be fair Kobe is a great basketball player for what he does on the court. He does help his team win games.
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AkaJLee24 1 month ago
@AkaJLee24 i feel it is my duty :) to enlighten fans that don't have nuanced knowledbge of the game. i try to give a more rational perspective. based on your response, i believe my efforts are not in vain as i notice you did not refute anything i said.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@AkaJLee24 keep in mind that the vid i referenced was mj dropping 42 in 3 quarters agianst the eastern conf champs, all on kenyon martin, richard jeff, and jason kidd, all exceptional defenders, particularly martin, which mj just abuses repeatedly. the vid shows just how superior mj's post game was to any non-big in the history of the game. i mean, he really abuses kenyon.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou Haha nothing to refute. Totally agree with you.
AkaJLee24 1 month ago
@ibuffalou while i won't say that kobe is better then jordan yet he's not as far behind as you want him to be. Kobe is already a better ball handler and shooter then jordan was. Jordan was easily the most athletic player of all time only other person that comes close is Lebron. So yeah. And as for kobe only being able to beat defenders to the spot thats the point of basketball. Your suppose to make the game easy not harder by trying to run through everybody.
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 the only reason you say kobe is a better shooter is because he HAD to shoot more jumpshots than mj to have a similar offensive output because kobe couldn't attack the basket as effectively as mj. kobe's game was based more around the jumpshot than mj. however, if mj needed to shoot the 3 to be effective, he could. i'm sure i don't need to remind you of the 92' finals, when everyone said the same about clyde, that clyde was a better shooter.. mj didn't like that very much.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou and of course Kobe couldnt attack the basket as well as MJ who could? The man was a freak of nature. But its also a testament to Kobe dedication and work the fact that he is even able to produce almost the same numbers as jordan while shooting jumpshots is incredible. It also shows kobe's ability to understand the game on a different level then jordan did as well
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 even though mj went to the hole more, there were plenty of games where he took what the defense gave him and hit jumpshots at an even better clip than kobe... i would direct you to youtube footage of mj's 64 point game against shaq's magic back in the day. first of all, that is the most lackadaisacal, easy 60 you will ever see anyone score.. ever. secondly, he scored the 64 mostly on all jumpshots.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou ahh the infamous jordan hit 6 in one half stat. Okay he got hot more props to him but don't try to convince yourself jordan was a great 3 point shooter its impossible. As for midrange Kobe and Jordan are unparelled in their ability to makes shots from that area but i give the edge to kobe because of the degree of difficulty his are taken with. Jordan was so athletically superior to anyone else he could get open at any time so thats the real reason i think Kobe is the better shooter.
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 sorry bro. but i checked the stats. mj and kobe have identical career 3 pt percentages in the regular season and playoffs. so i guess kobe can't do ANYTHING better than mj !!! lol..
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou and that right there is one of my pet peeves when it comes to basketball. Okay they don't identical 3pt % Kobe as of right now is shooting .339 to jordans .327 and thats with Kobe shooting almost 4 times as many. And don't compare regular season stats to playoffs everybody knows defenses play so much harder in the playoffs its not even funny. And jordan didnt even make the playoffs with the wizard he hurt them more then anything. I'm not saing jordan didnt understand the game he was a
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 did you just say that mj hurt the wizards? this is what i'm talking about - you ignore the facts, kind of like many politicians. the FACTS are that the wizards won 20 games before mj joined, and 37 games both seasons mj played. so how did he make them worse exactly? did you see mj drop 51 against baron davis hornets, many 40 point games, and 4 game winners with the wizards? he did this at 40. i'm not even sure kobe could do these things now at 33.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou and mind and try to understand what i'm saying. Jordan is without a doubt the greatest athlete to pick up a basketball and a exceptional mind but even phil jackson has gone on record of saying kobe is more skilled then mj. And what i meant by hurt the wizards is something you have to look pass the numbers to see. All jordan did was chase his ego when he came out of retirement. He hurt that franchise because one he didnt do anything but pad his stats. He was a a complete asshole to
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@ibuffalou kwame brown and Doug collins his coach. Not to mention he ran rip hamilton out of town because he refuse to back down from the almighty mj. And if mj had stayed in retirement the wizards would have ended up with better draft picks in both 02 and 03 and we all know how good the 03 class was. Kwame brown probably would've panned out into a decent NBA center. Not an all star but he couldve easily been a double double guy. And they could've gotten a legit superstar on thier team faster
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@ibuffalou so on that note i'm gonna end with this. The kobe vs jordan debate will probably go on forever because they are so similar. While jordan will always be called the greatest thanks to the media. You have to realize that there are some things that kobe does better then jordan and jordan does better then kobe its the same for every legend in history. I'm not knocking history i'm just saying stop putting him on such a high pedestal he did have faults. Just like everyone else
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 why do i put mj on a pedestal? because he's the greatest of all time. i don't think you have ever watched mj's game closely before. because anyone who had would not be saying kobe is equal. you knock mj because he averaged 20ppg as a 40 year old and say he ONLY shot 45% from the field. lets see what kobe has left when he's 40. he is already down to 25ppg in regular season and a PATHETIC 22ppg in playoffs. but he's as good as mj... gtfo dude you have no logic
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou dude i've watched more games then you'll ever know i got jordan rookies games taped on vhs so dont't got ther with me. And i love how you never refute any of my arguements you just keep bringing up the same stats over and over haha. And i'm failing to see how kobe 25ppg is down when that is his career average and he played less minutes then has in like 5 seasons not to mentioned he's playing with more injuries then mj ever did. And please don't bring up the flu games cause thats
gospellover3223 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 how can you acknowledge that kobe has inferior stats and played horrible in the playoffs yet you say kobe is as good as mj? how can that be? you do understand that 25ppg is nowhere near mj's level right? and 22ppg in the playoffs is like gilbert arenas, not mj. mj would not have been swept by the mavs. it isn't like kobe didn't have a ton of talent around him and he still got swept. so its impossible to be as good as mj with that kind of performance.
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@gospellover3223 also, let me help you out. rather than have to watch old vhs tapes (how painstaking is that), i recommend the 3rd vid down on this page.. youtube.com/user/medestinier#p/u/2/UPRyG5bOOtY
ibuffalou 1 month ago
@ibuffalou being sick not injured i've been playing ball my whole life and i can tell you straight up that i would rather play with the flu then have a messed a knee for an entire season. And since when did 22 points in playoffs become pathetic most players dream of that. Granted kobe did play horrible but so did the entire team they were sick of playing and everybody except kobe and bynum dang near quit.
gospellover3223 1 month ago