@jgq85 all they are doing is sending a extremely small electrical pulse into it's brain, which isn't felt. Other than that, they feed it, keep it safe from predators, give it a good environment ect.
this is sick!!! imagine we got captured by a ufo and they hung us off some wires and experimented with us allll day and night over and over! and were wondering the the heck is going on! thats evil!
This a great, useful technology and device, but uhhhh... Making an army of undead cyber-beasties is still pretty creepy. Oh, and by the way, they aren't mind controlling the insect, they REMOVED ITS' BRAIN, then replaced it with a computer. That almost makes it creepier though...
Hitler was a politician, not a scientist. Nazi scientists did tests, so did every other scientist in history. Hitler also liked sugar, therefore by your argument, everyone who likes sugar is a nazi. Good job. That's very logical.
@MrArchiteuthys Hitler was just a example to simplify my sentence. Your words dont convince me, the insect dont agree with tests, like people injured by scientists led by Hitler. This is enought for disagree this practices.
@thehannover07 Then it was a very poor over-simplification using an awful analogy. This has nothing to do with Hitler or his political ambitions or the gross mistreatment of human beings. I'm sure you have a point to make somewhere in all this, but good lord there are 10 million other ways to better assert yourself without bringing up Hitler for no logical reason. By the way, are you familiar with Godwin's Law?
i like the idea but what are u going to use it for. if some college kids can do this u dont think some bad people can infect this beetle with a deadly virus and fly it in to the white house or a school and infect people!!! ZOMBIES ZOMBIES RUN !!!
this technology is to be used against us! or if that sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory to you then consider this, we wouldnt be able to afford it, only wealthy people would
I am willing to sacrifice some beetles if it will lead to breakthroughs in brain-interfacing technology. The ability to unlock the full capacity of the brain, augment reality and so much more.
Medicine, technology,make-up and many of your daily comforts used animals to conduct research, so chill out, and let the smart people better science and humanity, thanks bye.
legal seria se enfiasse no anus de quem inventou... ai sim seria legal ver abrindo e fechando. Pro bem da ciência, tudo bem... mas pq não fazem isso com humanos voluntários???
Wah I feel bad for creatures that are incapable of actually processing pain or any sort of consciousness. I am an example of liberalism gone horribly wrong. Wah.
you think they go out to their backyard to look for beetles? they buy them from people who breed them. you know, like people who buy crickets to feed to their lizards or whatever.
well on the bright side this could be used to help handicaped patients who had their nerves cut because of some injury. Basicly they could learn to walk again using prostetics like this if combined with the tehnology of using the computer by thought. I think a lot of people would be happy to use their legs again although they still wouldnt be able to feel them but I'm guessing that could be artificialy made too. Of course it can be used in lots of bad ways but thats the thing with science :)
The electrodes are place in the brain, not in the muscles. There is no pain receptors in the brain, nor do they interfere with the processing of the pain region of the insect. I'd rather see these insects be put to work anyways... This technology may be scary and powerful, but I think like most technology it has just as much potential for bad as it does for good. I just hope people use it wisely and that is helps more people then it hurts.
well, they do seem rather confused. I wonder what it is like to be an insect under mind control... O.o insects seem capable of feeling pain, even though they can't tell that, we would guess that they do. But is what they feel torture? From the work done on the remote-controlled rats (<~~ go look for those, they interesting too), I am going to say no, but I am no expert, yet they did not seem to utterly distressed, though they almost seemed overly dependent for the signals strangely.
the rat robots saw'em , wierd its getting scary i agree have you seen the robot dog nothing living but combine that with an "advanced rat brain" you got a 250 pound rat that can carry a few hundred pounds there are for sure good applications. i see bad things coming from it but i am the paranoid type lol
whatever you guys say, that's still awesome, also beetles don't realise what's happening to them so it doesn't scar them as much as if they were human
I really think that a beetle's conception of pain and fear are not the same as ours. Hell, that beetle probably has like a 5 minute memory and will have forgotten the whole experience before they've even released it back into the wild.
That subjectivity of suffering is something people often fail to take into account when it comes to animal testing.
tl;dr, I am not on the PETA-fags' side on this particular issue. Also I must say it is amazing to see intelligent discussion on YouTube.
I'm not allowed to think over-sensitive animal rights activists are morons? Just because I'm not a polite twit doesn't mean it isn't intelligent discussion, or that I'm an idiot.
I'm not going to bother refuting your criticism of me saying "tl;dr", since I assume you're opposed to my point of view and are therefore only saying that to try and ridicule me. I mean come on, I use a popular abbreviation, so that nulls my arguments and makes me an idiot? No one is stupid enough to think that.
Nice job on strawmanning me on two points. I did not say you're not allowed to call them morons. But that isn't what you did. Also, the abbreviation is not the problem, it's the mindset. The "tl;dr" mindset will not allow for a useful discussion.
So by all means call them morons, retards, whatever you want. But saying you didn't read their argument then calling them fags does nothing for your position.
uh, that's not what tl;dr means. Well it is, but it's also very commonly used to summarize what you've just said. Which is how I was using it just there.
If it weren't for animal testing, we wouldn't have insulin shots for diabetes, and other life saving medicine.
My favorite part, is that all the people complaining about animal torture have probably killed flies, mosquitoes, spiders, or some type of bug because it was a 'nuisance'. But when we study animals, for example with this video, and make scientific progress...it's animal cruelty.
This doesn't really contribute to the argument either way, doggy3111, but I thought it would be of some interest to you that I am the opposite of your example. I do not kill bugs that come near me - if they're inside, I let them out and if they're outside I ignore them. However, as one who advocates development of human knowledge through scientific research, I do not think I could disdain this research.
No mosquitoes in Scotland so that's not really an issue. However, the same applies as in my last comment. However, I do value my own life more than theirs, so if it's something which is posing a threat to me, that's a different situation.
"Lets save a few beetles in the name of good morals! Screw all the potential scientific benefits that could possibly come out of this research, one where not even a single beetle is being killed! I'd rather have a few more beetles walking around then an entire new branch of science being developed!!"
Think outside the box for once. These things repopulate like no ones business anyway.
this reminds me of that scene from the animatrix where they sliced that guys head open and hooked him up to a machine that forced him to stymulate different emotions, crying, laughing, etc. brutal!
You have to take into account the fact that that beetle's small sacrifice (and insects experience far worse things in their day to day lives, I'm sure) will allow massive progress in science.
That said, it still is quite cruel, and I'm not sure I want this technology to be further developed.
That also said, I'm not sure how this works. Are they actually directly activating the wings, or are they just making the beetle want to flap them?
I don't believe they are self aware... or they'd have conquered the humans by now.
Oxoforion13xiandi 6 months ago
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hey, I have no free will!! said the beetle
Tocca1331 6 months ago
What is wrong with all you people?
1) They aren't hurting it, they are just stimulating its optic lobe so that it flies in certain directions.
2) We employ horses, donkeys and other animals all the time for useful work.
3) These beetles, apart from their daily exercise, likely have a sweet life for a beetle -- good food, warm, safe lodgings, etc.
4) I'm not a vegetarian, but we fucking slaughter animals all the time ... explain to me your relative evaluation of what is cruel?
Get a grip.
thesoundofscience 7 months ago 5
They referred to it as animal.
flagged for animal abuse
jgq85 7 months ago
@jgq85 all they are doing is sending a extremely small electrical pulse into it's brain, which isn't felt. Other than that, they feed it, keep it safe from predators, give it a good environment ect.
Thorovain 6 months ago
OMG! It's a Manchurian Invertebrate!
apatriotofusa 8 months ago
Fucked up
honki3MAN 8 months ago
this is sick!!! imagine we got captured by a ufo and they hung us off some wires and experimented with us allll day and night over and over! and were wondering the the heck is going on! thats evil!
sarah837sarah 8 months ago 2
i'm gonna overclock my beetle hopefully he doesn't fry
PirateMcSandwich 9 months ago 5
Can I do this with a girl?.
celshader 10 months ago
Truly satanic technology
PtAltmVansanTarr 10 months ago
Does anyone know where I can find one of these? Don't worry it's for a practical joke.
MAJIKVEGGIE 1 year ago
This a great, useful technology and device, but uhhhh... Making an army of undead cyber-beasties is still pretty creepy. Oh, and by the way, they aren't mind controlling the insect, they REMOVED ITS' BRAIN, then replaced it with a computer. That almost makes it creepier though...
AlphaNumericKey 1 year ago
This a great, useful technology and device, but uhhhh... Making an army of undead cyber-beasties is still pretty creepy.
AlphaNumericKey 1 year ago
wtf is wrong with Humans?
Netkiller3714 1 year ago 4
Just some tests, like Hitler did
thehannover07 1 year ago
@thehannover07
Hitler was a politician, not a scientist. Nazi scientists did tests, so did every other scientist in history. Hitler also liked sugar, therefore by your argument, everyone who likes sugar is a nazi. Good job. That's very logical.
MrArchiteuthys 10 months ago
@MrArchiteuthys Hitler was just a example to simplify my sentence. Your words dont convince me, the insect dont agree with tests, like people injured by scientists led by Hitler. This is enought for disagree this practices.
thehannover07 10 months ago
@thehannover07 Then it was a very poor over-simplification using an awful analogy. This has nothing to do with Hitler or his political ambitions or the gross mistreatment of human beings. I'm sure you have a point to make somewhere in all this, but good lord there are 10 million other ways to better assert yourself without bringing up Hitler for no logical reason. By the way, are you familiar with Godwin's Law?
RipDeLips 10 months ago
When you're sleeping it will lay cybernetic eggs up your nose.
bootsdog3 1 year ago
It's cruel. Stop that.
That idiot. He's the one that must be controlled. I'm going to tire him until he dies. Sadist.
blablabla9656 1 year ago
great more techonology for the government to use for whatever purposes in their classified projects
andrewking28 1 year ago
i like the idea but what are u going to use it for. if some college kids can do this u dont think some bad people can infect this beetle with a deadly virus and fly it in to the white house or a school and infect people!!! ZOMBIES ZOMBIES RUN !!!
JK LOL PRETTY COOL
Jshelley89 1 year ago
this technology is to be used against us! or if that sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory to you then consider this, we wouldnt be able to afford it, only wealthy people would
iridespinners 1 year ago
Hook me up! I'm ready to join the collective.
InDecisiveShadow 1 year ago
im sure the beetle doesnt mind.
YourADrag 1 year ago
@YourADrag Im sure u wouldnt mind running 100% all the time.
Jshelley89 1 year ago
Some morons do not realize testing on insects and small animals like this is what leads to medical advancements and treatments
L3adCannon 1 year ago
@L3adCannon they should test on you my friends instead of that beatle
iridespinners 1 year ago
@L3adCannon Soooooo.... this will "cure" my inability to fly? I don't follow your logic in this case lol
TheFreedom2choose 11 months ago
piranhas, dart frogs, elephants, squid, Pitbulls, etc.
MAJIKVEGGIE 1 year ago
Plant a "bug" anywhere! Pun intended!
Freshbrood 1 year ago
nice
nicktrella 1 year ago
I am willing to sacrifice some beetles if it will lead to breakthroughs in brain-interfacing technology. The ability to unlock the full capacity of the brain, augment reality and so much more.
Medicine, technology,make-up and many of your daily comforts used animals to conduct research, so chill out, and let the smart people better science and humanity, thanks bye.
asharma78901 1 year ago 2
This is sickening.. Let's hope we never come into contact with a superior intelligence that is evil enough to do this to us..
badmuffy 2 years ago
hahahaha, it wouldn't be difficult!!!
arctictimberwolf 1 year ago
legal seria se enfiasse no anus de quem inventou... ai sim seria legal ver abrindo e fechando. Pro bem da ciência, tudo bem... mas pq não fazem isso com humanos voluntários???
brunocesarmo 2 years ago
That is truly satanic
arctictimberwolf 2 years ago
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SADISTS
karatekla 2 years ago
Wah I feel bad for creatures that are incapable of actually processing pain or any sort of consciousness. I am an example of liberalism gone horribly wrong. Wah.
shitnrun 2 years ago
you dumb pussies should actually do a little research on insects before you start shedding tears over them.
shitnrun 2 years ago
awesome
zexapil2099 2 years ago
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Getting a research grant at DARPA must be like getting weed in Amsterdam
SAGEBOT500 2 years ago
It's only an insect, that's true...but it still seems...cruel.
heironeus86 2 years ago 9
@heironeus86: WRONG. It's cruel to leave my computer on for 3 days too right?
shitnrun 2 years ago
I'm not so good in english, so excuse me if I've not understood your tone...
Ehr...the computer is not a living being, and cannot feel pain! ;D
heironeus86 2 years ago 7
you will find crazy movies...
google
REMOTE RADIO CONTROL OF INSECT FLIGHT
first hit is where you get crazy
supercoffeestation 2 years ago
the beetle must be like "WTF!!??"
i dont like this much, tis wrong :(
pedekiller 2 years ago
this is wrong we should just leave insect alone their part of the ecosystem disturbing them can cause harm
stevntylertoy 2 years ago
you think they go out to their backyard to look for beetles? they buy them from people who breed them. you know, like people who buy crickets to feed to their lizards or whatever.
F3nyx 2 years ago 2
well on the bright side this could be used to help handicaped patients who had their nerves cut because of some injury. Basicly they could learn to walk again using prostetics like this if combined with the tehnology of using the computer by thought. I think a lot of people would be happy to use their legs again although they still wouldnt be able to feel them but I'm guessing that could be artificialy made too. Of course it can be used in lots of bad ways but thats the thing with science :)
midian11 2 years ago
The electrodes are place in the brain, not in the muscles. There is no pain receptors in the brain, nor do they interfere with the processing of the pain region of the insect. I'd rather see these insects be put to work anyways... This technology may be scary and powerful, but I think like most technology it has just as much potential for bad as it does for good. I just hope people use it wisely and that is helps more people then it hurts.
REZJT 2 years ago
wouldn't the confusion be just as painful if not absolute torture
lobo9er 2 years ago
well, they do seem rather confused. I wonder what it is like to be an insect under mind control... O.o insects seem capable of feeling pain, even though they can't tell that, we would guess that they do. But is what they feel torture? From the work done on the remote-controlled rats (<~~ go look for those, they interesting too), I am going to say no, but I am no expert, yet they did not seem to utterly distressed, though they almost seemed overly dependent for the signals strangely.
REZJT 2 years ago
the rat robots saw'em , wierd its getting scary i agree have you seen the robot dog nothing living but combine that with an "advanced rat brain" you got a 250 pound rat that can carry a few hundred pounds there are for sure good applications. i see bad things coming from it but i am the paranoid type lol
lobo9er 2 years ago
would love to do the same research in the "scientist´s" ass to see if they liked it
these guys are the future mengels
paquitomoralles 2 years ago
this is evil.
JoeyPencils 2 years ago
holy shit
the DARPA Chief had a heart attack
mcbenny13 2 years ago
this is sorta fucked up
SINNEDGAMEFREAK 2 years ago
mad
ryoichiryoichi 2 years ago
i hate DARPA and I want kill this asshole man .!!!! and I want break his head. I HATE TEST WITH ANIMALS. STUPED PEOPLES. DARPA IS @#$%^&*
Pijusha 2 years ago
test with animals are very good thing because then we can save more humans
antitrolling 2 years ago
saving from what? first, we are a damn plague. Second, they will use the beatle as a weapon or spy system, so it will help to kill more humans
mrlarotta 2 years ago
Than kill yourself to start curing the world.
mikecoscia 2 years ago
Yeah soon we wil able to control human brains
bonnome2 2 years ago
it is happening now. you just dont see it
antitrolling 2 years ago
is he dead?
L3D0 2 years ago
unfortunetly no
mrlarotta 2 years ago
are any of us really alive?
Jovian84 2 years ago
whatever you guys say, that's still awesome, also beetles don't realise what's happening to them so it doesn't scar them as much as if they were human
Shepard001 2 years ago
that was creepy lol
bf2modsde 2 years ago
that bettle seems confused, its like .... ok....
0611930024838 3 years ago
electrocuting beetles..
mdadnan 3 years ago
bastards
fknwogmatee 3 years ago
Shut the fuck up you PETA activists, no one cares about animals if it's funny.
joshtaco9 3 years ago
look at taco boy go - You need your fuckin teeth knocked in KOOK - punk
jsugar72 3 years ago
I hate PETA, i hate all damn hippies, but I hate that DARPA motherfucker too! Why he didn't put the electrodes on his own dick?
mrlarotta 2 years ago
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That's great. Kinda.reminds me of ChillingChimp's videos
HotChocolateAddict 3 years ago
GREAT! Mind control! What will we think of next! This should come in real handy when we all receive our verichip!
What gives these fuckers the right to take over another creatures mind/body?
I think they should be the first ones to receive the chip so we can run them head first into brick walls!
FattKidd 3 years ago
I really think that a beetle's conception of pain and fear are not the same as ours. Hell, that beetle probably has like a 5 minute memory and will have forgotten the whole experience before they've even released it back into the wild.
That subjectivity of suffering is something people often fail to take into account when it comes to animal testing.
tl;dr, I am not on the PETA-fags' side on this particular issue. Also I must say it is amazing to see intelligent discussion on YouTube.
Gaiacarra 3 years ago
"tl;dr, I am not on the PETA-fags' side on this particular issue. Also I must say it is amazing to see intelligent discussion on YouTube."
It's not really intelligent discussion if idiots come along and say "tl;dr" then call the proponents of the opposing argument "fags".
ScotsmanRS 2 years ago
I'm not allowed to think over-sensitive animal rights activists are morons? Just because I'm not a polite twit doesn't mean it isn't intelligent discussion, or that I'm an idiot.
I'm not going to bother refuting your criticism of me saying "tl;dr", since I assume you're opposed to my point of view and are therefore only saying that to try and ridicule me. I mean come on, I use a popular abbreviation, so that nulls my arguments and makes me an idiot? No one is stupid enough to think that.
Gaiacarra 2 years ago
Nice job on strawmanning me on two points. I did not say you're not allowed to call them morons. But that isn't what you did. Also, the abbreviation is not the problem, it's the mindset. The "tl;dr" mindset will not allow for a useful discussion.
So by all means call them morons, retards, whatever you want. But saying you didn't read their argument then calling them fags does nothing for your position.
ScotsmanRS 2 years ago
uh, that's not what tl;dr means. Well it is, but it's also very commonly used to summarize what you've just said. Which is how I was using it just there.
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Gaiacarra 3 years ago
If it weren't for animal testing, we wouldn't have insulin shots for diabetes, and other life saving medicine.
My favorite part, is that all the people complaining about animal torture have probably killed flies, mosquitoes, spiders, or some type of bug because it was a 'nuisance'. But when we study animals, for example with this video, and make scientific progress...it's animal cruelty.
What a bunch of hypocrites.
doggy3111 3 years ago 3
This doesn't really contribute to the argument either way, doggy3111, but I thought it would be of some interest to you that I am the opposite of your example. I do not kill bugs that come near me - if they're inside, I let them out and if they're outside I ignore them. However, as one who advocates development of human knowledge through scientific research, I do not think I could disdain this research.
ScotsmanRS 2 years ago
What do you to mosquitos?
kidjr27 2 years ago
No mosquitoes in Scotland so that's not really an issue. However, the same applies as in my last comment. However, I do value my own life more than theirs, so if it's something which is posing a threat to me, that's a different situation.
ScotsmanRS 2 years ago
Get over it people, it's just a beetle.
"Lets save a few beetles in the name of good morals! Screw all the potential scientific benefits that could possibly come out of this research, one where not even a single beetle is being killed! I'd rather have a few more beetles walking around then an entire new branch of science being developed!!"
Think outside the box for once. These things repopulate like no ones business anyway.
contrast27 3 years ago
Apparently they're not smart enough to build a robot so they just torture lower life forms. Way to go academia!
crosone 3 years ago
I would yell at the people funding the research rather than all of academia...
Forsaken87 3 years ago
this reminds me of that scene from the animatrix where they sliced that guys head open and hooked him up to a machine that forced him to stymulate different emotions, crying, laughing, etc. brutal!
Jovian84 3 years ago
You have to take into account the fact that that beetle's small sacrifice (and insects experience far worse things in their day to day lives, I'm sure) will allow massive progress in science.
That said, it still is quite cruel, and I'm not sure I want this technology to be further developed.
That also said, I'm not sure how this works. Are they actually directly activating the wings, or are they just making the beetle want to flap them?
Gaiacarra 3 years ago
you'd have to ask the beetle.
Jovian84 3 years ago
Doesn't the animal abuse apply to beetles? I am not from GP or PETA but this seems pretty cruel.
kotaroux4 3 years ago 2