The Day in 100 Seconds: Dead On Arrival?

[daltongang79]

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[Fig1024]

I don't get why "public option" is just fine for military veterans and old people, but it's the root of all evil for everyone else?

if it's really that evil, take the military and old people off it, lets save those poor people from evil socialism!

[unclebob270]

Howard Dean , a proven loser, is now an expert on healthcare?

[taoofmichael]

Howard Dean,

TWO TERM GOVERNOR OF VERMONT,

PRESIDENT OF THE DNC (which fueled the biggest Democratic win, in the presidential race, the House and the Senate, since LBJ,)

Himself a doctor. His wife a practicing doctor.

IS AN EXPERT ON HEALTH CARE!!

Jesus, Republicans are ill-informed horseshit shovelers.

[unclebob270]

Howard Dean is an Idiot..and I am NOT a Republican...I just recognize bullshit when I see it..

[taoofmichael]

Well unclebob, if Howard Dean is an idiot,

you better write a letter to the medical school that gave him a Phd in Medicine,

the people of Vermont, who elected him to two terms as governor (which he served, all the way through,)

the Democrats who elected him president of the DNC, where he lead the biggest Democratic victory since LBJ,

and the American people who voted OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRAT in the last election.

Is there ever ANY SUBSTANCE in ANYTHING YOU SAY?

[unclebob270]

Obamamaniacs rarely like anything I say. But this guy is making an attempt to force the public option over the overwhelming objections of the public. He is so arrogant.. He may be a wonderful physician but he he is not in touch with the people. I hope  his bedside manner was better than his "political touch".

[Magurufukuru]

You're a proven loser. He's a medical doctor and a career politician. That makes him an expert on healthcare.

[sharkinfested]

Think the healthcare program is a good idea? Just look at the swine flu vaccine:

The government is charged with making one little shot for everyone and what is happing? It's LATE, there is NOT ENOUGH, they are RATIONING the vaccine, and to top it off IT MIGHT NOT WORK!!

The government can't handle dispensing ONE little shot! Do you really want them to handle ALL your medical needs?

HELL NO!

[themarycity]

Making a vaccine takes time...I don't want them to rush it at all when it could have negative side effects...It's not "one little shot".

I want the government to handle my medical needs! Like Medicare which runs great and if it wasn't for that the private insurance companies would've pulled the plug on her years ago by not giving care to somone w/ emphysema because it's a "pre-existing condition".

[sharkinfested]

Don't believe everything Obama says. Medicare doesn't run great. Have you seen the red tape? The forms are endless and confusing, now think of the elderly whose mind isn't as sharp as it once was. What happens? They get denied!

BTW a vaccine IS one little shot, but I'm glad to hear you like waiting. If this healthcare program passed you'll get to do a LOT of waiting.

[themarycity]

Good I'd like to do some waiting. I had unnecessary surgery done on me that gave me a stroke and put me in a coma. I'd like a panel of doctors to evaluate the procedure and have me wait awhile then rush into a surgery I don't need.

[faizalsotilleo]

That's because flus have a tendency to change and mutate over time.

[StrikerlandMovies]

People are fucking stupid. Mainly right wings. Ok, lets not have all are residence of the country alive. If anything the GOP should be supporting them. More old people alive. More people to vote for the outragious belifes.

[marniespeaks]

no public option no vote for ANY democrats

[BARR999]

The libs are in a free fall.

LOL

[raytheist]

Maybe in a couple of years they will hit the depths of the GOP.

[KSP0520]

I have to say I'm surprised to see cnn cover this like they have been. Maybe cause they realize Americans want the truth and their ratings are going in the toilet. All the networks lately are having to report on this, and it must be hard for them cause the majority out on the streets, and at the TRUE town hall meetings are Americans saying no way on GOV'T CONTROLL healthcare. They must hate going to work. How do they cover up the truth ? um uhh umm uhh ?? they can't ! thanks FOX for you service

[LeoHareMusic]

lol

[TDanza8]

Read some customer satisfaction polls from the elderly on Medicare they are more satisfied with Medicare than for-profit insurance companies. Would you rather the government running healthcare INSURANCE with an overhead of 3% or for-profit in which 20-30% goes to shareholders, bloated executive compensation HMO averaged 11.9 Million per CEO. But yea only 71% of Americans support the public option, thats why the insurance industry has scared the shit out of you with lies and fear baiting.

[bleunt]

get it done already!

[voyeurdug]

Joe's body English says, "I'm defensive" when he's making an assertion... or: "I'm lying."

[Realizalize]

yeah he made a kabuki around the death panels and the fema takeover, he is

the man behind the plan, and he fears that it is obvious, that is why he is nervous.

[djhuleatt1010]

would the new "co-op" plan be a stepping stone to single payer that isnt under government control.. my understanding is that the cooperation would be a pay to play system for the current 40 million americans without insurance.. the system would be consumer owned and would create competition amongst the private companies. If this system is set up right and attracts more and more people, it would dominate the market and private insurance would not exist... no govt run healthcare, no private ins.

[hoff100]

Dean needs to run again in the future!

[PersonalJesus348]

I'm so glad ex Medicine Man Howard Dean left the DNC.  He can speak freely now.

[Chewy240284]

howard dean rocks

[yanks1022]

The public option is a comprimise in itself. It many ways this was FOR THE REPUBLICANS. If democrats and Barack Obama weren't so fearful of being called Socialist, than a Universal Health Care bill would be up for debate right now. This is a hybrid proposal and still the republicans are trying to appease the base, and are more enticed by the campaign contributions from the Health Sector. This party makes me sick. And on another note, how does someone like Bachmann get elected, I don't understand

[raytheist]

"how does someone like Bachmann get elected?"

Yesterday I heard the first talk of her running for PRESIDENT.

Feast your eyes on this...

"If I felt that's what the Lord was calling me to do, I would do it, When I have sensed that the Lord is calling me to do something, I've said yes to it. But I will not seek a higher office if God is not calling me to do it. That's really my standard. If I am called to serve in that realm I would serve, but if I am not called, I wouldn't do it."

The horror.

[eminance67]

Nice job Mr. Dean.

[Bi99aDK]

All who wants public option say 'I'.

I,

Deron K. wants the public option.

[SuperEvilC]

I want single payer, really.  but, I.

[spits32]

ladies and gentlemen, the manufacturing of consent.

[cherrydog9]

keep swingin dr dean

[YoungBudd]

The Health Care Reform is in a coma right now......DON'T DIE ON ME DAMNIT. C'mon Obama, don't fold on (some of us), make that move.

[someperson111]

Howard dean could talk all day long. I love hearing him speak.

[Magurufukuru]

God DAMN I wish Howard Dean had been made president in 2004. He would've been the best one ever.

[almamatters2471]

Americans are idiots.

[laserbeamninja]

fuck you

[kevkevinkev]

I'm American. Yes, I agree. If we can't even get a public OPTION, then we're being governed by a bunch of idiots.

[voyeurdug]

For Dean it's Kabuki... for the Rethuglicans it's a Noh play.

[overseachininadoll]

I want the public option, dam it!!!!!.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

If Obama doesn't deliver a public option he has lost my vote in 2012, and the Dems will go down in flames in 2010.

He needs to attend to his progressive base or else.

[P101794]

I totally agree, he needs to step up!

[MooseOfReason]

SubmarinerAndroid, Or else what?

[drmondman1]

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[junkforkaryn]

"half a loaf" is just another way of saying that another large turd will pass out of the senate...we want real reform, not the same old shit!!!

[thane17]

Everybody in support of this ObamaCare needs to learn basic economics.  The money simply isn't there, and passing a bill on just good intentions is going to get us more liberal failures. Watch Peter Schiff for an easy to understand explaination of why this health care idea is bad.

[Richardgwm]

Peter Schiff is a moron.

[Chestmuscles]

I have this problem with retardation that other people could have. I think if this fails then I have been proven that retardation is still something that the USA accepts as part of health care and I do not want the retardation.

[Richardgwm]

It's over folks. The corporations have killed healthcare reform.

I hope you like spending more for healthcare than any other nation and receiving third world health outcomes.

[wmg111]

The GOP is simply doing what they've always done to stifle real debate. Ridicule those with a different view and then the clincher, call them "unamerican".

It's pathetic. Goering and Machiavelli wrote their mission statement. Divide and rule.

Sad.

[freedom8758]

Dean '12

[Meloman0001]

yeah if Obama doesn't pass healthcare i think its about time

[EntropyGuardian]

Every person protesting the public option, "death panels", and calling Obama a facist socialist (???) didn't vote for his ass in the first place. Don't comprimise and shove it down the republicans' throats.

Dems are pathetically weakwilled and the repubs constantly make them their bitch and get everything they want. Truly embarrassing.

[lamouchemorte]

The media is in bed with the health insurance industry. It is THEM that are pushing public option off the table. Don't let these bastards brainwash you!!!!

[thane17]

its the resistance at the town hall meetings that has forced obama to drop the public option, not the media

[lamouchemorte]

That's bullshit. That "resistance" is nothing more than closet bigotry and misinformation packaged in fear using phrases like 'obamacare' and 'this isn't the America I grew up with.' The health insurance companies and their (mainly) Republican lapdogs are to blame for this propaganda.

[dnemnt]

what a joke. i feel like we're being scammed. well over 70% of Americans want the public option, but a few noisy right wingers killed it? i'm not buying it.

[Realizalize]

get a brain moran!

[flipmafiaking]

"when you got the government running something the government is not a fair competitor, it's a predator not a competitor."

Really? because last i checked UPS, a privately owned business, was doing better than the American postal service, a government owned one.

I do want to learn more about this health care reform, but as of right now I thinks it's important we have a public option. There are some reasonable arguments against it, but the arguments people choose to make are sophomoric.

[oldtownkid]

I think that the President is only trying to re-define reform based more on the other elements included and reduce the public option to just one of many elements in this debate. Items such as pre-existing conditions, bankruptcy due to medical bills,budget neutral, preventive care, lower premiums, should be the focus. What many people fear is the big government, and if GOPers get to define reform as such it will be rejected, but if Dems define it with the actual items on the bill then it'll pass

[bobhardball]

The Dems have a supermajority in the House and Senate and can´t pass the Bills they want? I am afraid I will never understand these people!!!

[ToManyPhones]

Governor Dean summed things up brilliantly!

The right is out of touch, and I think any GOP Senators who want to vote for the bill, the two senators from Maine possibly, risk getting thrown out of the GOP caucus.

[aracdeeditor92]

Why the hell isn't Dean HHS again?

[OlivierdeAthos]

My guess is, it was because he was too good at his job. Can't have that, you know.

When Dean was DNC chair he proposed the 50 state strategy. The other feckless wimps on the DNC said "no, no, let's just concentrate on the states where the polls say we can win..." Dean said "fuck that, we'll fight for all 50 and settle for nothing less."

He was right, but since Dems are so comfortable with losing all the time, they just had to replace him with Tim "Mr. Rogers" Kaine.

[wervasdeferens]

The GOP knows that if reform passes,they'll be wandering the desert for 40 years.

Just like after FDR,they'll come back 40 years from now to rape,pillage and plunder again.

[OlivierdeAthos]

If you Google "William Kristol 1993 Health Care Memo" you'll find that's exactly what he said in 1993, and why he said it was imperative that Republicans destroy it completely, rather than compromise. He outlined a proposal for how to do it.

The strategy worked perfectly in 1993 and they're using an identical strategy now. As any good football coach will tell you, there's no reason to stop running a successful offensive play when the defense clearly hasn't figured out a way to block it yet.

[zndprophet]

We should have elected Howard Dean as president in 2004, but he raised his voice a few decibels.

Can't have that.

lol.

[BigPurple121]

right. Dean would have made an amazing president.

[ecofeminist]

"Would?" Heck -- if health care fails, I'd say he's got a good shot in 2012.

[sailfished]

Howard is growing such a cute wattle . Every politician who voted for the wall street bailout should lose their job AND their pension, AND their cadillac health care

[kelseywall]

Howard Dean has balls!!! Any other democrats with balls (or oavaries).

[ProfMTH]

"Howard Dean has balls!!!"

Indeed. The President would do well to take a lesson from him.

[zndprophet]

Welcome to America, where simple lies defeat complicated facts every time.

[ebleyes]

Great line, is it a quote from somewhere.

[greatbroad]

@ zndprophet

Well, I'd say we are well past USA and into USSA at this point.

Back when there was a USA -- truthful information was the currency of freedom.

The USSA is bankrupt in so many ways...

[oldtownkid]

When, in our history, have we been a better country than what we are today? Give me just one example ! This is the best time in our country. Conservatives ignore that we've been a country were the supreme court has protected the exploitation of children, before liberals put in place children protection. Our past is a past of oppresion of our own people, our workers, before unions, and our women. So when the fuck has our country been better than right now?

[Magurufukuru]

1 million years ago, before the arrival of man.

[greatbroad]

This is the best time in our country?

Well, if you think today is the best time in the USA has seen I am at a loss for words.

[oldtownkid]

truthful information was the currency of "freedom" for who? for Reagan's war on drugs? or was it for Nixon? Oh, no, wait a minute, it was for Hoover... oh, no,wait. I know who... George H.W.Bush... no wait, I got it, it was the truthful info about weapons of mass destructions.. that's it, yeah... call it freedom !!! You are so blind !!!!

[greatbroad]

Obviously oldtownkid, you make judgments without much thought. This is a problem for you.

If you took the time to check out my channel before flying off the handle, you wouldn't sound like such an angry idiot.

[raytheist]

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward."

-FDR

[raytheist]

The saddest thing is there are going to be right-wingers walking around heads held high like they won a battle if the public option dies. Then whatever "reform" is left will fail, the country will suffer more, and in 3 years they will jump up and down shouting, "see, we told you reform was a bad idea."

Without the public option, democrats should vote it down, and then come back with SINGLE PAYER.

[zndprophet]

Exactly.

Let these right wing idiots scream & cry all they want. It's about time we took our country back from the retards.

We should be the ones asking for our country back.

I don't want to have to pay for their idiotic judgment anymore.

[yanks1022]

And that is exactly what they should have done in the first place. Obama, and the rest of the White House is too afraid of being called Socialist by the neocons. It's ridiculous, supermajority and nothing gets done.

[3star2nr]

dr dean i hope your right man. i hope to god your right

[charlesrubenfeld]

dean ftw

[Faisal4242]

hillary tried, obama tried, whos next ?