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  • I WAS going to install this wet cell set up into my 91 GMC as well but started looking into it more and more, and discovered the dry cell is more efficient (current to HHO gas produced) than the wet cell ...but good on yaz

  • will this work on any car? Where do I begin to install it on my car?

  • I need to find out what I need to do with the oxygen sensors to get my car and on board computer to not counter what I am trying to do with the hydrogen oxygen.

  • @toddal8 get some oxygen sensor spacers on them ...the oxygen sensors will still work but won't report the higher levels of oxygen which will make you car think it needs MORE fuel to be added to the mixture....

  • It is about time that someone built these things commercially, with all the safety features needed, and install them professionally. Otherwise, sooner or later somebody will make a bad installation, there will be an explosion, somebody might die, and that will give an excuse to the government to prohibit them altogether.

  • dc motors all of them make curent when spolled by hand pr turned by drill or added to pully system hook it direct to hho cell or it will fry baterie the faser it spines the more juice it makes learened about it looking up wind power on youtube i use a razor scootor motor tell every one

  • hey man i happen to have a similar sytem on my truck but instead of a direct intake i put the outlet into the air intake to it pulls the vapors thru the entire fuel system it gives you better mileage...i tested that and saves money on gas

  • Hi, nice demo - the white gas outlet on the jar ..is it a screw in part ? - if so can you tell me where to get one ???

    I'm from the uk - many thanks...

  • Could you show us your cell design ? It seems to really be putting out the hydrogen.

  • THAT is not a bubbler. Ur gonna blow your self up.

  • Mega Joules per liter.

    Gasoline 34.2

    Gaseous Hydrogen at room temperature 0.01079

    HHO, two parts H one part O so divide 0.01079 by 3 x 2 = energy density 0.00719 Mega Joules per liter at room temp.

    Raise temp to typical HHO cell temp 185 F (60 amps input) gas expands 21.76 percent.

    0.00719 divided by 121.76 x 100 energy density now 0.00590 Mega Joules per liter.

    34.2 Mega Joules divided by 0.00590, ratio of 5,796.6 to one. One gallon of gasoline = 5,796.6 gallons of HHO.

  • if you really want to learn how to make your car run on water go to: thegas4free.blogspot,com

  • Hi first good work,

    This car will past the Smoke check?

    How about the DMV role's?

  • passes smog just fine

  • Dude you are running your engine directly from the hho generator...THATS A BIG NONO!!!!!!!!

    You need to add a bubbler and a spark arrestor..... the WATER that gets sucked DIRECTLY FROM THE GENERATOR in to your engine along with the hydrogen gas will damage the bearings.

    and if that ol Ford ever has a misfire the spark will travel all the way down the hose to the generator BOOM!!!!

  • *REALITY CHECK*

    Hydrogen & Oxygen by means of electrolysis of water was done by William Nicholson and Anthony Carlisle in about 1800.

    Ford, GM and Chrysler are all under pressure to make vehicles more efficient (Better Gas Mileage).

    How come no new cars have HHO Generators ?

    Common Sense Test: 1. They don't know about it. OR 2. It does not increase gas Mileage.

  • baloney...they're in bed with the oil companies, same reason all the streetcar tracks were ripped up in America back in the 50's, big oil and rubber.Drill baby drill

  • If you think replacing 1/1,000 of the fuel & air with HHO is going to make a difference in MPG. Go for it.

    It's your time & money, waste it however you want.

  • fool

  • do you happen to work for an oil company, by any chance? you certainly sound like one with all that negativity that you're spewing out.

  • Or they are hard to maintain. The average American isn't educated about these "experimental" devices.

  • or 3. Auto makers get paid big money to make gasoline cars. While at the same time they receive pressure from green organizations wanting to get rid of gasoline all together. They Choose their middle ground, cars that get slightly better gas mileage, satisfying both sides.

  • I bought a F-16 Pulse King on ebay and my HHO cell went off the charts.

  • thats y u put an anti flash back device in line.... does it augment your fuel mileage at all?

  • not much, but it runs better.

  • well backing soda is pretty benign.. but just the same a back fire from say a lean mixture

    could blow the whole thing up. so be careful.

  • yeah but my truck doesnt back fire. it doesnt run lean or anything. when it happens then ill know i was wrong and shouldve put on a bubbler.lol

  • are you crazy.. you have to put a flash back

    bubbler.. and make sure that acids or caustic vapors are not sucked into your engine.

  • i dont know about acids. its just baking soda and distilled water inside the jars. havent had any problem yet.

  • if you cant make an efficient ammount of energy by using some energy....then explain where propane, gasoline, kerosene, diesel, and the other fuels come from!..do they just appear in tanks for us to use?...there are alot of experimenters that seem to get results....good and bad!...its about fuel efficiency as well as alternative fuel. how can electronic fuel injection trump a carburator? it uses more electricity to make the car run dosent it? HAIL to the free thinkers! walt

  • I'll give you credit for the fact that your setup is very clean and sturdy. The problem with HHO generators, is that they do nothing.

    In order to split the water in the jar, additional current is pulled from the F150's alternator. This increased load results in more resistance on the alternator pulley. This means that your engine has to work harder and subsequently burn more fuel. Additionally, there are losses at each conversion of energy.

  • i guess you have a point. it would probably run more efficiently and do less work if there was no strain on the alternator.

  • I am presently working on a gen for my 93 f150, I'm running a 4.9 inline six. just wondering if you would know the best ijection piont for this motor. keep up the good work, we'll show them all...lol

  • i just have the line going into one of the extra vacuum ports that are next to the main vacuum lines. it had a plug on it and we took it off and crammed the hho gas in it.lol

  • hey man, what diameter ss bolts are you using there?

  • First thanks for the vid., I have a 89 F150 5.0l myself. pls look at this guys location of his 2nd generator. I wonder if placing 2 separate hho generators gave him the results he got. See if this will up your mpg too. Thanks, Clearwater/Florida

  • i did see another set up for the oxygen sensor that worked like a plug fouler where the sensor is farther back from the exhaust flow.idk how that works tho

  • it would be very efficent to put the hose as close to the intake plentum. what others are saying is to have the hose go into another container to capture water vapor being the (bubbler)

  • i would check the plugs if they are too lean like a white color i would look into a device they are selling which adjusts the oxygen sensor on the car to fool it so it doesnt richen the mixture of gasoline resulting in mpg loss i think its called an effy or effi they are custon made

  • yeah i heard about those devices. havent considered looking into one just yet. the trucks been running fine like a champ. replaced the fuel filter and the mileage went up a bit up to 14. amazing isn't? just basic maintainence effects mpg.

  • 14.7 for gasoline . what about propane?

  • If you make your car go from a 12.0:1 to a 18.0:1 fuel ratio, you will see a large increase in mileage. This is a BIG mistake since 14.7:1 is ideal but almost all cars under a load run around 12.0:1 for engine safety reasons. Just makes the same leak with nothing attached and youll get the same results but better since your not putting a load on the alternator in turn loading the crankshaft.

  • neato i didnt know that

  • bugger, you've obviously stuck your finger up your nose to far...lol you wouldn't know a lean running engine if it sat on your face. why do you refuse to admit that HHO is present and that it is helping the combustion process. you must be one of those athiests who dos'nt believe it unless you see it, trouble is HHO is invisible. Truth is the fuel ratio changes from car to car, exspecialy the carberated ones, only the lates cars today are equiped with cp to make em run perfect air/fuel ratio,duh!

  • Most people are not going to see a significant increase in gas milage WITHOUT using some sort of o2 device (EFIE - used to offset the extra fuel the ECM will add BECAUSE of the extra oxygen passing through the exhaust pipe), and/or use of a MAP/MAF device (used to help control the air/fuel ratio) Each vehicle is different and therefore has different emission control devices that may need to be addressed. All we are doing here is "supplementing" the existing gasoline to burn more efficiently.

  • ALL alternators have an "extra" reserve of available power. IF we are doing this right, we are ONLY working with a reasonable amount of the "extra" power that's available. A PWM (Pulse Width Modulator) device is used to adjust and control the amount of current (AMPS), your hho unit uses. 20 amps is generally a good starting point for most systems and is usually handled well with most alternators. IF you can achieve a 25-30% increase in MPG using ONLY available power, what's the problem?

  • you need a bubbler for safety and try putting o2 extenders on your front o2 sensor

  • This disables the cars ability to maintain a correct a/f ratio. Your going to cause the car to run supere lean with the air leak caused by the device. This WILL give a temporary increase in mpg but at the sacrifice of the engines parts. People will see the same increase in milegae without the device with the same leak. Not a good thing since the manufactrurer makes a modest tune to ballance economy/power/life. Its all a scam.

  • one day ill have to try that.

  • I am working on the same model of generator ...he seems to be missing a air intake, can't get the HHO out if ther is no way for air to get in, should be a bubler on it with hose going into the water.

    Also I have found for a V8 that dual gens are required to get best gains, mixing at a rate of 1.5 teaspoons of powder. as differn't amounts of soda make for a richer mixter but we went to far and added to much and melted the plasic that the wire was wraped on, so be care full.

  • Hydrogen will get out as its made without an air vent. All you are doing is creating a vacuum leak to the engine and casuing a super lean running motor. This will cause major stress on the pistons and rod bearrings. Two will be even worse. If it doesnt work without a vent it doesnt work. If it works with vents, then just make two large vacuum leaks to your engine without the HHO generators and BAM. Saved you time money and looking stupid.

  • I disagree. IF the hydrogen is entering IN through the air intake (WITH all the outside air that NORMALLY enters INTO the air intake), HOW is that "creating" a vacuum leak??? A vacuum leak is a leak that occurs at ANY point BELOW the throttle plate of the carburator. As long as you are feeding the hydrogen in ABOVE the throttle plate, you are NOT creating ANY vacuum leak!

  • Furthermore, why do you think they call it vacuum? Vacuum occurs BELOW the throttle plates from the pistons drawing in the air & fuel ratio during the engine rotation. ABOVE thr throttle plates AIR PRESSURE exists at 14.7 psi., NOT vacuum.

    Another thing, research a gas molecule. A "regular" grade gas molecule contains 7 atoms of carbon (there for lubrication) and 16atoms of HYDROGEN!!! (C7H16) Now I'm no chemist but gas ALREADY HAS hydrogen and we are SIMPLY enriching what is ALREADY present.

  • wowowow this very well done I'm building a model but hydrogen booster but electronically automatisé\\\very gooddddd men take care

  • What was the result on the feul economy? Was there an increase?

    Also, it looks like you just have two SS bolts in that jar connected to the wires outside. Can something that simple really make a difference? If so, I'm building one today!

    Give us an update on the feul economy, even if it didn't help (or if it made it worse, due to your oxygen sensor).

    Thanks.

  • not much of an increase for fuel economy. maybe .5-1 mile per gallon. I think i need to modify or tweak my 02 sensor before i see any real gains. i am only expecting maybe 3 mpg max.if im lucky. so thanks for the interest and stay tuned.

  • RE: SAFETY! Search this site for: HHO BOOM in my Car/ Lubobuba Creds to fearless examples as a WARNING. Lubo, U Da Man.

    W/O U I woulda gone off 1/2 cocked & BOOM!

  • What the hell did you just say?

  • the poping sound on video is the megnetic felild caused from the engines ignistion systems.

  • I wonder if that popping noise in the audio is from a bad plug wire. You might want to check. Nice truck :) These guys talkin about a bubbler are right. See zerofossilfuel and SidYoung safety blow out test to see how dangerous this stuff is. Not tryin to kick a dead horse here, just tryin to point you in the right direction.

  • no it doesnt have any bad plug wires or anything, but thanks for being concerned. thanks for your concern ill look into the safety thing though.

  • How much of an improvment of mpg did you get on your truck with the generator?

  • like a half mile per gallon, so basically none.

  • if your not going to get a bubbler maybe get a one way valve...

  • what is a one way valve?

  • A flashback for instance if your engine was to backfire creating fire that fire would follow back up to your bubbler and explode, not that it hasn't its just when!! AND IT WILL !!! small prevention that is being implemented another jar/ device where your direct hydrogen line FOR THE BUBBLER submerged that line in water with an additional line coming out of that jar are device to prevent flashbacks and exploding your generator. exploding that glass in your face are in someone else's .

  • Use a one way valve in your line from the intake so the gas will not go back into the unit if there is ever a flashback. I just finished my 15 cell unit today, wired and hooked up to a Ford 4 cyl. Escape w/a 5 spd. manual. What amps are you running? Mine is at 20 amps and water temp has hit over 150 degrees in about an hr! I will have to install a pump system w/a radiator to cool the water...

  • A flashback for instance if your engine was to backfire creating fire that fire would follow back up to your bubbler and explode, not that it hasn't its just when!! AND IT WILL !!! small prevention that is being implemented another jar/ device where your direct hydrogen line FOR THE BUBBLER submerged that line in water with an additional line coming out of that jar are device to prevent flashbacks and exploding your generator. exploding that glass in your face are in someone else's .

  • Hey!! I drive a 1991 Ford F-150 too.

    I am considering adding a hho generator. Keep us all posted on your MPGs. If you want, you can e-mail me jeffery19677 at yahoo.I am considering a larger container for the h2o to reduce fill ups as I drive cross country a lot.

  • okay thats cool, ill have to remember that. thanks for watching.

  • That is not a bubbler that is a generator. You can have a flash back into your generator. Boom. You probably need a bubbler and flash back device. I think people are using some type of steel wool. What did it do for you mpg?

  • i dont know about mpg just yet, i havent checked the mileage yet, but i had it smogged, and it ran very clean and seems to cruise and idle real smooth. i also havent messed with the o2 sensor yet. i dont know what a "bubbler" does or what a flash back device is?

  • Item#1: No glass. Use low mass plastics less likely to make schrapnel WHEN it blows up.

    Item#2: A bubbler is a seperate device that provides 2 functions. Keeps your electrolyte from entering engine and acts as sacrificial lamb WHEN it blows up. You feed from your generator to below water line in bubbler, gas/fluid from generator cools and is filterd, gas then exits second tube in lid above water level and is fed to intake.

    Item#3: Build it with expectation of BOOM. Safety 1st & last.

  • Reliable flash suppresor can be made using a 3/4inch PVC tube about 4-8inch long. Put a small wad (loose about 2inch dia) of fiberglass insulation (pink stuff) in each end. In the middle, pack in FINE bronze wool. Terminate the ends with end caps drilled/tapped for the size flex tube you use. Is most effective when wet. Mount between bubbler and intake. Blowing through it should notice slight flow retriction.

    This is NOT a replacement for a bubbler. It is an added safety feature.

  • In any component you install that will contain even a small amount of HHO, there should be a designed in weak point that will direct a blast in a safe direction.

    I typically use PVC drain pipe. Not the best material, but it works, is cheap and I can deal with it. I normally put some kind of fitting anywhere that gas will accumulate that is open to the outside world. I then cover the hole with mylar cut from trash bag. Simple, effective blow out vent.

  • Please dont take this the wrong way. I want it to work for you. I dont want to discourage you. But your setup is not safe.

    You really need to study this a bit and experiment some before you strap one of these things into your truck. Right now, you are driving around with a bomb under the hood of your truck.

    There are many excellent examples of the correct way to implement one of these right here on YouTube.

  • well i appreciate your honesty and that you want to help, but i dont see how its that unsafe. ive seen a video of a guy whose got one hooked to his bronco II the same way mine is. all i did was copy off that idea, if you can help, please show me what im doing wrong. or at least show me the correct videos to watch. peace out. -Mat

  • well, my first suggestion would to get a primary bubbler which is a container where the gas goes from the hho generator then pull of the top of your bubbler to a secondary flash arrestor prior to injecting inline. if that were to back fire, you could have a serious problem, if the hoods poped and your looking at it when it back fires?? shrap glass my sting?? not sure? I'd use plastic on all containers, thats the tougher part all of us have been facing is the right container..

  • i dunno man, ill have to look into it. its been trouble free so far.

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