say you were a student of Buddha 2500 years ago then you did not have nowadays science.
and you did not need our science in order to follow footstep of Buddha and become enlightened! in other words, buddhism is selfsufficient for anyone to start with. anyone with no scientific knowledge can become enlightened. for enlightenned beings - our immature science discoveries are like little baby chat..
@xapanxyi No, back in the day, you didn't need science to follow the Buddha, the fascinating thing is how modern science has corroborated many of the discoveries of the Buddha especially viz. health benefits of meditation.
When we try to over focus so called Mahayana term, we often mislead novice from the foundamental teaching of Buddha.There is no such thing that is called Mahayana Buddhism, Hinayana Buddhism or Tibetan Buddhism ro even Zen Buddhism. People should not forget the Pali text which maybe closer to original teachings of Buddha.
@RanjanLekhy Thanks Rajan, but why would the Buddha's original teaching be better than the 2 millenia of thought based on his thought? You say there is no Zen or Tibetan etc Mahayana Buddhism. It would surprise those millions to know that...all are based on the Buddha's original teachings....
Sorry for being late to reply. Would you explain your first question? Buddha says in the sky there is no west and east, humans minds demarcated them. In this video what all are discussed also can be found in the Pali texts. My main comment was on OVER FOCUSING on particular school. That is why, in the history, we see several schools mushroomed. Everyone understood Buddhism in their own ways. We need to understand Buddha's teachings in holistically.
There is nothing in the core of Buddhism that you can't verify by way of your own direct experience in reality. Mindfulness is key.
You aren't your body, or your mind, or the perception of either thereof. There is no You, at all. To assume there is, is delusion. This is a big part of enlightenment, and it's VERY easy to see. It can be done in minutes. Just look. Don't think. LOOK. See how well that notion fits against reality.
I hope you look for yourself, and not simply deny.
@HylianSpirit I love how this statement fits with the Hart sutra! (I hope that that's the right anglicised spelling!)- Finding oneself means finding nothing! Every-time I reiterate this idea mentally to myself, I get a little closer to comprehending it, which weakens the "me" who does it. So beautiful.
Lord Buddha said "The knowledge in this universe is as much as the leaves in the forest but this knowledge is not leading to nirvana , in other hand the knowledge that lead to nirvana is just the leaves in hand "
You decide, from the beginning of mankind history how many things we have achieve ?? so many right ?? but everyone on this planet still suffer
How come there aren't any notable Buddhist scientists? I mean practicing Buddhists who have made notable contributions to science. I've been Googling round for ages and can't find a single one. All other religions have heaps of such scientists. Weird.
@devindasahan100 Only in that they're desperately trying to make their religion seem credable through scientific pretense. In that respect it's not just weird, it's embarrassing. The fact that perhaps not a single important scientific piece of knowledge has been discovered by the entire Buddhist community over hundreds of years kinda backs this up, don't you agree?
@MrBaboonArse But why are you so jealous about this ? do you have any facts to say that Buddhism does not relate to Quantum Physics, go find what Albert Einstein has said on Buddhism. Do you think people can't understand ? it's clear my friend, you're jealous ! because you can't even think about "Quantum physics and Bible" and you have NO FACT against this vid. so you have got some completely irrelevant comment posted on here. I'm not wasting my words on you after this :)
@devindasahan100 I'm not jealous. I just made an observational comment that is true. The Einstein quote is a quotemine; he was opposed to all organised religions and outspokenly dismissed non-objectivity as rubbish. I'm not a Christian (why assume I am?). I have a physics degree but yes, I find it difficult to think about QM and I don't think I'm clever. You had an angry outburst and now you're sulking - all because I pointed out a fact. Think about that.
@MrBaboonArse You'll need to get a degree in Telepathic studies before judging how angrily burst out I am :) Do you know that the last time I had my physics term test, I had the highest marks in my class or may be the whole grade ! ;) (just because you mentioned your degree) and Einstein has said, (when I say "has said" it means "has said") "Buddhism has the characteristics of a future cosmic religion" bye and have a nice day my friend....... :) and I'm sorry if my previous comment hurt you.
@MrBaboonArse Somehow your first comment seems completely for the purpose of insulting Buddhists and Buddhism. And if you think anyone should become labelled scientists to contribute to science, all I have to say is open your mind ! The best scientist in whole universe was The Buddha, he supplied the answer for the biggest problem every being has. I am SURE, you don't atleast know the four noble truths in Buddhsim. Well, uncle Albert knew what Buddhism is before making his comments :)
@MrBaboonArse If someone becomes Buddhist then he does not see point in becoming scientist only because Buddhism is perfect and it does not need science to prove it.
with that kind of mindset you'd be no different than any other blind religous nut..buddha clearly teaches to push the boundaries and question everything even his teachings..learn from experience and through research never accept blindly from anyone..to know something to be true you must be able to present evidence or facts
Some Christians become Faithful servants through the Christian church, but this is not a big number I would assume. If God came to a buddist and said , only buddist go to heaven, I would say, send me to hell, I am no longer a buddist" budda My favorite quote. If heaven is in the sky, the birds will proceed you, Buddism has a good place in the spirtual journey. : )
The temple of God is YOU! Your body, he will come in if you simply ask. Jesus is a son of God as you are, and he is The Messiah that will come to bring peace for a 1000 years. One love Jah Lives
@truthseeker010101 Yes it is, the Buddha got his teachings from seeing the world and using his logic, as well as A Posteriori Knowledge, to find the truths that put and end to suffering. He did this without any help from a transendant being. Jesus was merely a prophet from God who taught God's law to the world.
@1TheTain You are not wrong, Jesus is the Messiah to the world, different from a prophet , but more like a super prophet if we could, and he taught us that we are all sons of man in the flesh and sons of God in spirit. I love my master Jesus, I want to obtain more then a good life on earth as Buddist have, I do like the philosphy but I must follow the one true path to eternal life, following God in faith, and love. one love
@xapanxyi thats a thought. Paul produces what your calling "christians" and I agree that Paul is no master. There is no teaching that makes a man, you either defeat the lion or you are eating by it.
@1TheTain just like Bob Marley, I don't like the ISM SCISM of going to heaven for faith in jesus , but to follow Jesus, "pick up your cross and follow me"
Christians don't believe in a 6 day creation! Why does the whole world assume this? The Bible may say "days" but in the following chapter it says that the "days" being described are like "a 1000 years to God" and then it says "1000 years to God is like a watch in the night". Later in the Qu'ran God tells Muhammad to change it to "6 periods of time" The universe was prepared for us in "6 periods of time" then Adam, was given spirit from God, The divine spark. one love
@truthseeker010101 It doesn't change the fact that Christianity is sexist, homaphobic and constantly tries to dominate other religions and athiests into their way of thinking. It is even rascist as Jesus is always depicted as white, when in actuallity he would have probably been a black man due to the place he was born in. Also, I think it's strange that nearly all of the Christian festivals were actually taken directly from Paganism, another religion that was destroyed by power mad christians
Good video. Buddhism is definitely a very satisfying religion in intellectual terms. I also think the same can be said with vedanta hindu philosophy. it is incredible. You should checkout the life and work of Meher Baba, he was a legitimate spiritual master. He has many mighty epic quotes.
Many faiths and sciences are converging for a reason.They're seeking the same truth along different paths.I could expand on that if I had more than 500 characters to work with.You-tube censorship strikes again ! Nice video thanks to the uploader.
It's funny how scientist keep discovering that Buddhism was ahead of them but through a different method of inquiry. Science destroys the subject in the process of inquiry. This wouldn't be exceptable in a Buddhist tradition.
People, don't be so narrow-minded! Many physicists today do not only admit the budhism philosophy as they encourage people experiment by itself. The work here presented is completly laudable. One cannot reject something that is unknow by the OWN experience; otherwise, it becomes a dogma. What you should to do is to study a little more about philosophy of science. Then you'd discover a crucial point: even the scientists must have a belief back ground for their interpretations. ;)
He never tried to apply buddhism or any spirituality to his actual scientific opinions on quantum physics or his theories of relativity, nor did he believe that science should prove the need for any specific religious truth.
@Muffinman10123 Einstein's view was simply that Buddhism was the spirituality most amenable and compatible with science. Buddha was an experientialist focused on the consciousness, but Buddhists were adept physicists as well. The early Buddhist posited a variety of views: atomists, those who asserted "mind moments". Later Buddhists asserted the corelessness of phenomena (anti-atomists) and those who assert consciousness as central. All agree there is no self, just inter-related energies.
@Muffinman10123 so true no need for religion ,religion is ther to control man ,for good or bad reason ,but my personal thought god lives out side of time and space .and we wont ever have the science for that.
There are many schools of buddhism, and all of them subscribe to a different set of dogma regarding the concepts. Einstein didn't believe that spirituality actually explains physical phenomena.
"it is virtually impossible to describe in great depth just how interrelated science and buddhism really are, and the absolute connection remains to be discovered."
That's because you are not a physicist, and you should not use physics concepts that you know nothing about to promote your spiritual agenda.
@Muffinman10123 How about Einstein as an authority for Buddhism and science? "The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism."
@opensourcebuddhism In that quote, Einstein didn't specify what type of buddhist thought he was referring to, and what he implied is certainly in complete contrast with the new age garbage that you tag along with buddhist thought. Einstein did not believe that "There is no such thing as objectivity. Not only do we influence our reality, but in some degree, we create it. Reality is what we choose.' Einstein was a hard objectivist, believing that objects exist independant of observers
@MemeMachine1 dude wut the hell r u talking about? if we dont have senses how the hell can there be a reality except one we create. since we have senses we create this reality. if your blind your reality is one wihtout sight. only sensations of the wind etc.
@Muffinman10123 There is much evidence, besides opensourcebuddhism, to suggest that Buddhism and science to posses links. I suggests you research more into the religion, as well as how the two are linked, then argue against these ideas.
There is no evidence that karma transfers into a fetus, a newborn baby, or into another world. Karma is just volition and is probably the most misunderstood term in all of Buddhism. The Buddhist "doctrine of karma" implies that an intentional action (karma) is a cause that gives a result. The karma becomes a seed that bears fruit (an effect or result). This karmic process (Karma Niyama) can be instant. Buddhism boldly claims it can also extend into another life. This last part is based on faith
Well speak as if I am buddhist or that I am angry , both far from. You keep restating the obvious, which is a correction of your original position. Please stop attempting to "champion" physics, your attempt has been futile and you are only making the "religionists" position stronger. I am sure all the "religionists" who read this are thanking you as you attempt to argue with me. Please reread your statements for your errors. I now see why the Dr. stopped attempting to educate you.
My question to you COCOnutface, Have you ever taken religion courses? These are required in nearly every prestigious college and university in both the US and Europe. If you haven't you might want to, just so that you can say you have peered into the other side. If you can go to the UW - Madison, usually considered a prestigious college, you could take one of the Rev. Dr.'s courses.
@cptamericajd Almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever. Go tell that to your imaginary prestigious religious course.
@C0C0nutFace Oh yes, I agree few do. But still, you have self discovered that there are some. I have made you correct yourself, therefore I feel much better for intervening in this conversation. The interesting thing of this current time is that more and more physicists are looking at the other side, read a research journal some time. Also, you know Stephen Hawkings, supposedly the greatest mind of our time, well he himself admitted to believing in time travel, OMG what a ludacris concept.
@cptamericajd If only you realised how silly you sound, angrily blabbing on about 'the other side', 'time travel' and 'prestidious science courses that teach religion'. And yet all the time you've been refusing to accept and address the fact that... Almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever. (Psst...Didn't Buddha say something about not avoiding awkward questions?)
If Buddhism agrees with quantum physics then how come all reputable physicists dismiss Buddhism as nonsense along with all other religions? Either physicists don't know anything about physics, or ...
@C0C0nutFace you should google: Einstein Buddhism quote then tell me that all physicists agree with Buddhism being nonsense. he says, that of all religions, only Buddhism is capable of agreement with science and natural phenomena. Let's get real: the Abrahamic monotheisms are the only ones with big science issues. Buddha was the first experientialist - scientist: "don't listen to scripture, gurus, other people or even me - let experience be your guru."
@opensourcebuddhism The Einstein 'quote' is a famous quotemine. Other religions have similar Einstein quotemines too - you are all scraping the bottom of barrel because your religions have no scientific/philosophical credability whatsoever. Almost all of today's leading physicists are atheist (no, Buddhism is very different from atheism) - you ignore this because you're stubborn to the truth (ironic since you're trying to support Buddhism, lol).
@C0C0nutFace ok buddy, tell me how the idea that we are a bundle of integrated sensations projecting a world via our consciousness based on sub-conscious cravings leading to dissatisfaction and the attainment of mental calm, violates "science" in any way. The "no-self" paradigm for the consciousness has been scientifically corroborated by Davidson and the Waisman center. There is no place to the "ego". That was Buddha's discovery. All things are inter-related = no self. How is that wrong?
@opensourcebuddhism My, My. You don't like to be proved wrong, do you. There's really no need to try to argue that Buddhism has any scientific merit - this silly argument can be resolved simply. Thus: All of today's reputable physicists believe that Buddhism has no scientific merit whatsoever. Please do continue pretending you know more about physics than the entire phisics community - you're very amusing.
@C0C0nutFace you are just a science fundamentalist. never replied to my points at all. rather just be filled with yourself and "righteousness" of being the "only true faith, all others, completely wrong" just so like american fundamentalists. since you can't reply logically to the points i raise, i see you are another person with whom i have wasted time. science fanatics can be idiots too. just try proving confucianism wrong through science - double dog dare ya! you just don't know nothin
@opensourcebuddhism Instead of throwing silly insults, can you try to give a reason why all of today's reputable physicists believe Buddhism has no scientific credablitly? I produced this simple fact in my first comment and you have done nothing but respond with anger. Buddha would be very, very disapointed with you (In a symbolic sense because Buddha never actually existed).
@C0C0nutFace Why am I bothering? But ok, you won't answer my question, let me ask you another: cite your source: ALL QUANTUM PHYSICISTS DISMISS BUDDHISM AS NONSENSE" find me one, find me ALL. It is simply unscientific and only dogmatic to say things like this. Neils Bohr chose the Ta'i Chi as his coat of arms when knighted by Denmark. Or doesn't he count? Or is Daoism somehow more "scientific" than Buddhism? Was Socrates a scientist? He believed more unprovable things than Buddha
@opensourcebuddhism Find you all? Ok: all of today's reputable physicists. There, I did it. Now you find me one...oh wait, you can't because none are Buddhists. (P.S. You may as well be trying to argue that India borders Bolivia, ignoring the fact that no reputable geographer agrees with this). You're a barrel of laughs, please keep entertaining us all with your petty excuses!
@C0C0nutFace Joel Primack a leading (reputable) astrophysicist at the University of California believes in science and God. Therefore the logic of your statement that all physicist dismiss Buddhism as nonsense along with all other religions is false and thus by Aristotlean logic your premise is false since you derived the one from the other. Since one exists your statement is flawed, please revise.
@C0C0nutFace It was not my statement that put God with Buddhists. It was your question, "How come all reputable physicists dismiss Buddhism as nonsense along with all other religions?" The word ALL by logic encompasses religions that include God. By including this you have shown your bias and presented your flaw. You should honestly read your won posts. Obviously, there is no room to argue with someone already full of their own beliefs, and who trudges forward stepping on their own tongue.
@cptamericajd Almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever. You refuse to acknowledge this simple fact because it puts the 'Buddhism and Science' comparison into clear perspective. Instead, you try to bypass this through claiming I am full of my own beliefs and stepping on my own tongue. You are a typical religionist.
@C0C0nutFace Ah you have stated it, "almost all," now you have accepted your flaw by adding the word "almost" to your steadfast ideals. Good for you. I do not refuse to acknowledge items within the context of your statements that are full of logic or merit, because I myself cannot be a religionist. Nowhere have I stated views on my religion. I have no earth-bound religion. My religion is math and physics, I merely have conversations with the Rev. Dr. on religion. Thus I can argue both sides.
@cptamericajd By 'all' I meant 'nearly all', assuming readers would have the intelligence to understand this. But, just for you, here is my statement in more rigid terms: "Nearly all of today's leading physicists regard Buddhism as having very little or no scientific validity whatsoever." Are you again going to try to avoid the implications of this fact through provoking a silly argument about logic commands?
@C0C0nutFace The funny thing is logic is not silly, especially for someone who considers science the only answer to the universe, and I hope you know what they say about assuming.... . The only guaranteed truths lie in mathematics, even physics changes. Physics gets corrected all the time. I am not trying to provoke you, I am showing you how you do not have all the answers, as I do not either. As for my intellect the Rev. Dr. and our circles know my credentials, and that is good enough for me.
@cptamericajd Mathematics gets updated just as much as physics does. What a naive understaning you have for someone who attended a 'prestigious' course. You remind me of a kid who's trying desperately to pretend he's educated in science, in order to try to win a lost argument. Quite sad, really.
@C0C0nutFace The funny thing is you already lost the argument because you asked for others to find one when there was none and yet I was able to get you to correct yourself.
Mathematics makes new discoveries, but a proof is permanent. What a naive understanding you have of mathematics.
As for prestigious schools and the course contain in them, it is funny you mock them, you remind me of a kid who has not even finished high school and would like to think big.
@yarzharl Not a single one of today's reputable physicists believes Buddhism to have any scientific significance. But you choose to ignore this, just as other dummys do when they pretend their religion has scientific attachment. Buddhism is a religion because it presents a brash, complicated universal explanation with no evidence whatsoever. Get an education, hippy.
@C0C0nutFace the big bang and many other theories have big gapes that are filled with faith, assumptions based on what evidence they have. they are not always right and you cant explain the beauty of life with a fucking equation. something logical can be wrong. quantum field is emptiness, entanglement is unity, observer affect is reality. they are just different ways of explaining the same thing.
@iamdk007 Well done for showing everyone that you know nothing about what science is. Just because you've always been terrible at math doesn't mean 'beautiful things' can't be described through math.
@C0C0nutFace You clearly have no knowledge of Buddhism. Even Einstien himself said that Buddhism was a religion that could cope with scientific advancement. Also, it is debatable as to whether Buddhism is a religion as it does have a God, it is seen more as a philosophy.
Yes reality is what we CHOOSE. Right or wrong, understand/ignore, truth/lies, etc. Its not what you manifest w/super powers like the force. Poverty is NOT a state of mind but a state of LIVING. I am not unwealthy b/c I am not rich in the mind. I am unwealthy b/c 13 families control 90% of the worlds money. I am not unhealthy b/c my mind is poisioned but b/c Im ingesting toxins like flouridated water or mercurized high fructose corn syrup, or maybe its b/c I CHOOSE to eat too much damn McDonalds
Life is not a video game where you can create your reality. What happens when the world I create isnt the one you have. I mean whose world are we living in? Yours or mine? Neither. All this belongs to the source. The Creator. You were created and did not evolve as a living entity from non living materials or chemicals or dead matter/space dust. Its called intelligent design and Bhuddism does not recognize this. Uhmm we just happened but not really b/c nothing has a real exiistance. Nihilism. Ha
@MetatronThaMartian Is that why you don't like Buddhism? Because it does not support your ID idea? Anyone with a little chemistry background can tell you that every physical thing is made up of atoms which are NONLIVING. Even if ID was true, that would still mean that God created us from NONLIVING matter. Study more into chemistry and you would know atoms are 99% empty space. That would mean if we are made up of atoms, we are technically 99% empty space. Do you even know how the brain works?
Do not dispute and study knowledge :) Focus on your self rather than on others. If you forget who you are and know who others are, you will suffer a lot. If you know yourself you will begin to understand others
I'm not upset. I also don't think it's funny if I were upset, but if that's what you think, then you're welcome to continue thinking that way.
I think that you should understand that a Muslim does not represent Islam when he does what Islam is against. I know that there are Muslims who do bad things to others, such as killing innocent people, but that goes against Islam's teachings. You have to understand that. Among the sheep, there is a wolf. That doesn't apply to Muslims only.
Typical Muslim? What do you want me to be? Do you want me to agree with what you're saying? Agree that Islam's teachings are pathetic? Agree with whatever you say? That is never gonna happen, for as long as it goes against my religion. I haven't offended you one single time, nor your religion, but you have offended my religion, Muslims, and myself, and you comment on my ego? If you don't wish to debate about anything, then leave. There are more nice Buddhists than yourself I'll talk to.
I don't need a book, claims to be the words of creator, to tell me what to do and believe.
So spare us with all your quotes, which we are going to reject, and let it to control you.
It is your right to reject other religions, their views, their teaching, etc,
However, you come here to claim islam is the truth, others are filled with errors and contradictions, shows that you have NO RESPECT for other religions at all.
If you don't care what the Qur'an says, then don't. However, if you think that other Buddhists don't care, you're wrong. I'm sure many Buddhists want to hear about other religions, and read the Qur'anic verses I write here. My goal is not to make you a Muslim by writing them, but to prove my points. I don't think you should pretend to be the spokesman of all Buddhists when you say that I should spare you for them.
If you think that I commented here to prove that Islam is right on the first place, you're totally wrong. I came here to watch that video, and start a discussion about science in Islam and Buddhism. I also didn't come here to tell you that other scriptures are filled with errors, but I simply said that because that is the reason for why I am not a Christian, Jew, and so forth. There is nothing wrong with that. It's like when you say you're a Buddhist because you don't believe in God. That's it.
If you think that I have no respect for other religions, then you're skimming through my comments, not reading them properly. My religion teaches people to respect every other religion. I'm not being disrespectful when I tell you that the reason why I'm a Muslim and not a Christian etc., is because I know that there are errors and contradictions in the Bible, and other monotheistic scriptures. Your religion is not monotheistic, so don't get all angry over this.
Why can't you have a proper discussion? You're not representing Buddhists, which is good, otherwise the world would not have a positive view on Buddhism. You should be more relaxed like
dandylionist is. You're being disrespectful yourself, and you're saying that I'm disrespectful? That's nonsense. Should I call it disrespect that you're not believing in God? Of course not. The same way, it is not disrespectful if I tell you why I'm not believing in other monotheistic scriptures besides Qur'an.
This shows how disrespectful you are. How would you react if I said that it's pathetic that you're making statues of Buddha, even though he never said that you should make any statue of him? Would you react as respectfully as I do when you say pathetic after mentioning Islamic teachings? Also, if I am disrespectful in any way, or if I offend you, then I apologize in advance, because I'm not here to offend you.
What's your point in saying that I don't know enough about Buddhism? I know as much as needed for me to understand it. No belief in God, and that is not for me.
My view on Buddhism is like my view on almost all other religions except my own. I respect the good teachings, and that Buddhists through them can relax and so forth. However, no belief in God keeps me away from it.
I don't care which scriptures, after going through them with a bias mentality, than concluded them to be filled with errors and contradictions, are unacceptable.
You can defend your qur\an, so what? If you do not accept others view, we can reject yours. It's ain't going to change anything.
Fact was innocence people been killed, you muslim can continue to deny.
Who cares about your evidence, drafted by your fellow muslim, with zero credibility?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that I don't believe in other monotheistic religions because their scriptures contain errors and contradictions. I'm just telling you the truth. Do you want me to say that it's because I don't care, or because I'm convinced that the Qur'an is the word of God without knowing how the other scriptures are? I know how the other scriptures are, so that's why I'm telling you that I'm not believing in them due to their errors and contradictions.
I'm not mentioning Buddhist scriptures, because it is enough for me to know that they aren't about believing in God. If you think I'm talking about Buddhist scriptures when I'm saying that other have errors and contradictions, then you're wrong.
Whether you believe that 9/11 was done by Al Qaeda or the Bush-administration, it's your own case. But you shouldn't blame Muslims for it, because Islam does not teach anybody to kill innocent people. It teaches that we must fight those who fight us, but if they want peace, we must make peace, and we must avoid killing civilians as much as we can. Now, if you believe that Islam promotes violence, then you're misinformed.
That's why I said you guys need to focus on those naughty Muslims before they go around killing innocent people. to be honest ,Mizgor, you are making Islam seem more scary to me than before I read what you write.I start to feel that most Muslims don't really want to be Muslims at all but they are too scared to say it. Because you guys seem to be angry all the time,this is purely from what you wrote. relax......don't kill me.
I am not trying to sound angry, nor am I angry. I just have to debate with so many people, and whilst writing to you guys, some other people with usernames that are provocative to Muslims said all kinds of things about Islam, so it may be that I sounded too strict or something related to that.
I think that we should all tolerate each other. Muslims and Buddhists can coexist peacefully in America, for example. There is no need to be cruel.
As I usually say, don't judge Islam by the deeds of its followers. If I turn out to be a disrespectful person in your sight, then I apologize because that is not my goal, however, Islam has not taught anyone do be disrespectful.
tnoneclick seemed to be angry, and that doesn't mean I should change my position on Buddhism just because he is angry over something.
I want to make it clear to you that if any Muslim kills an innocent human being in the name of God, then he is not acting upon what Islam teaches. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say that we are allowed to kill innocent people. In fact, it says that whosoever kills an innocent human being, it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind.
o mizgor, you muslims are so so selfish and blind, only concerned your muslims being a minority in other's countries. Why mentioned only China? Who are the minority in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia and many more?
What! You managed to find out only andalusia? I don't even heard that name, search more. Anyway, what that andalusia tuned into later is not important, fact was to claim that no lands were ever invaded by the muslims are distorting the history.
If you're gonna keep reading my comments without understanding, then I see no point in discussing with you. Either you read my comments and understand them properly, or else I'm gonna ignore what you write and discuss with somebody else.
I said that 50% of all Muslims in the world are minorities. Those in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, etc. are not minorities, but that's why I said 50%, not 100%. You cannot deny that fact. See: USA, France, UK, Russia, Australia, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany etc.
Mizgor , I think you misunderstood me completely, what I meant was my Muslim friends were doing what Islam told them not to do because deep in their hearts they hated to be told what to do. I don't have the urge to drink or to have sex like they do because I'm not under pressure like they are. may be you need to relax a bit. and like I said don't worry too much if the Buddhists don't worship God,you'd better worry about the naughty young Muslims in stead. Quality's better than quantity
First of all, I'm not here to force you to convert to Islam or anything like that. I was watching the video, and thought about comparing the science in Qur'an and your scriptures (i.e. Tipitaka).
Tell me, if Muslims didn't spread and just remained in Saudi Arabia, do you think we would survive? We are making up 1/4 of the world population, yet we are under constant pressure from everybody, wars are being waged against us, propaganda is being spread about us and our religion.
dandylionist, when I said, "First of all, I'm not here to...", I was talking to tnoneclick, not you. I replied to you by a mistake.
Regarding what you said, Islam does not force anybody to be a Muslim. If you want to be a non-Muslim, then fine. If they feel that they don't wanna do what they're told to, it's their own case. However, just like they listened to their parents and did what their parents wanted them to do, they can also do what Islam tells them to do. The results are always good.
If you create something, you'll be the first one to tell what it consists of. The Qur'an says, chapter 21, verse 30:
"We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"
Who, besides the Creator Himself, could have told us 1,400 years ago that every living thing was made of water?
Who could have made food necessary for our survival? Who could have made the sun, to make the plants grow, so that they help us live and we help them live? Who lets rain fall for vegetation?
Where did I say that Buddhism "only" teaches a great deal of good? Are you misunderstanding what I'm saying, or are you trying to make me look like somebody who doesn't know anything?
You should know that nothing can exist without a Creator. Intelligent design is something extraordinary. There is no way that any living being could possibly exist without somebody giving it intelligence, sight, and all other senses.
Firstly, I said, "among other religions that are monotheistic, their scriptures are filled with errors and contradictions." I mentioned monotheistic religions, not atheistic, polytheistic, or anything else.
Secondly, people do claim that there are errors and contradictions in the Qur'an, but I just respond to them.
Thirdly, 3,000 people died on 9/11, not 6,000 and over. Also, it was not done by anybody else than the Bush-administration. There is evidence enough supporting my claim.
Where is my excuse? You are totally misunderstanding what I am saying. Just because I say that Muslims are spread around the world, and that about 50% of them are minorities, it is not an excuse for anything, but a simple fact. Most Chinese are gathered in China, so they are minorities in other lands, but most of them are definitely not minorities.
If you are talking about Muslim invasion in Andalusia, you should know that it turned Europe into what it is today, and not another Africa.
Buddha understood that all forms of matter cannot be created but is like a cycle that is constantly changing, matter cannot be created nor destroyed. but go through transformation. so the idea of creation is false. both buddhism and science both understand this fully.
The point is that Buddhism teaches a great deal of good, however, it does nor teach us to worship God, which is something I don't understand. God has created us, yet most people deny it.
Killing innocent people is one of the greatest sins within Islam. It is so much prohibited that if anybody slays an innocent human being, it is as he has slain the whole of humankind.
Compared to the entire world, we aren't minors, however, we are so spread in different countries, that most 50% of us are minors. Examples are Denmark, USA, France, Great Britain, Australia, and so forth.
Which countries were destroyed by Muslims? All of the invasions by Muslims were due to self-defense.
I do have understanding of Buddhism. You don't necessarily worship the statues, but you do treat them as if they were something supernatural, no doubt about that.
The thing that keeps me away from religions like Buddhism is that they don't tell you to believe in God. I don't see how it is possible that everything exists without a creator. Also, among other religions that are monotheistic, their scriptures are filled with errors and contradictions, whilst the Qur'an is not.
You muslim believes in a creator and must submit to him, just like most dictator of the our recent history, yield to me- or be condemned to death or jail.
True, Buddhism is not a monotheistic religion, it is not based on belief in a God as creator of everything. But NEITHER it is based on worshiping statues to seek
spiritual achievements.
Like I mentioned again, You knew NOTHING about Buddhism.
Throwing question back to you, -What is it that islam has to offer but Buddhism doesn't? Then again, you only knew a narrow and distorted view, you do not have to comment.
There is nothing I want to know about islam, I have read your posting here, and whatever questions and argument here were meaningless as you don't know ANYTHING about Buddhism.
I truly wish it was quality rather than quantity, but in these days and in this case, quantity plays a huge role. We Muslims have the highest level of cultural and moral standards than anybody else, and that is quality. We are making up 1/4 of the world population, which is quantity, and because we are minors (we aren't living in one or a few countries like the Chinese), we are being trashed and humiliated, and our lands are getting invaded.
I mean all the regulations in Islam are quite strict. Too strict for me. I have a lot of friends from Arab country they all drink alcohol and try to have sex to as many women as they can but when questioned they said they have to make to most of the freedom they can have before they went back home to strict rules. this is the cry for freedom from average young Muslims. You should focus on quality rather than quantity.don't try too hard converting new people,better focus on the existing number.
Do you think it is strict not being allowed to drink alcohol and act upon fornication? Look at what is happening to the West due to alcohol and fornication, and all kinds of things that are prohibited in Islam! And you call having sex with someone you aren't married with "freedom"? You call drinking alcohol "freedom"? That is freedom that leads to catastrophes, and if you aren't aware of that yet, you will be, when your societies end up being worse than huts.
Let everybody cry for what they want, but Islam only prohibits what is bad. It is saddening that even Buddhists believe in "freedom"! What do you want to achieve by drinking alcohol?! What do you want to achieve by acting upon fornication and adultery?! What do you want to achieve by watching pornography?! What do you want to achieve by being half naked (if not almost 100%) in public?! What do you want to achieve by being allowed to visit discotheques?! Is that what you call "freedom"?
I'm not staying away from Islam. I believe in living in harmony. Buddhist is my choice and people around respect that. It's like you choose to be Muslim,I hope you did and people don't keep asking you not to because it not nice to question other people's personal decisions. All should have the right to choose. What I like about Buddhism is freedom,harmony,mercy,open minded,etc.A Buddhist needs not to convert his girlfriend,it not nice to have to chance the person you love.
To begin with, we Muslims are not allowed to marry anybody besides other Muslims, Christians, or Jews. It applies to Muslim men only, because Muslim women are only allowed to marry Muslim men. If you want to know why, feel free to ask me.
I've never though of Islam as terrorism I've been taught since I was little that every religion teaches people to be good. But sadly in every religion there are bad people trying to do bad things using religions as there excuse. I don't think that it's that many people think that Islam is bad or anything but there are a lot of Muslims who have victim mentality they are over sensitive. There are people out there who say bad things about Buddhism but we stay strong and we don't cry about it.
I'm happy for you Mizgor. Believing in God with all your heart is a good thing. Even for some Buddhists they find it's hard not to believe in some form of supernatural force. But for others who don't believe in God we have to respect their decision too. The Buddha never said anything bad about anyone's God. So don't you worry. God is there as long as you believe in him,doesn't matter what other people say.
The point I'm trying to make is that converting to Islam will have no bad effect on you if you're converting from being a Buddhist. The biggest step is believing in a God. It may be that you're unsure whether or not Islam is true because of what you're seeing in the media, but I can tell you that Islam is not the way you are imagining it by watching news about terrorists.
What is it that you see in Buddhism and not Islam, except that you have to believe in God as a Muslim?
I as a Muslim will always believe in God, because a calamity is a test for me, and if I pass the test, I will be rewarded for it, if God is willing to reward me. A life in the state of Islamic faith is enough, because suffering in this world and believing in Allah is everlasting happiness in the next world, while being happy and enjoying what is good in this life and abiding in Hell forever in the next is something that should be reasonable enough as an explanation for believing in God.
It shouldn't be hard for you to believe in God. If you're looking for anything similar to meditation, then learn about the Islamic prayer. If you're looking for a happy life, then ask God for it. You shouldn't expect God's help to come out of the blue. You must ask for it. Whatever Buddha has taught you, fine, it's peaceful. But whatever Qur'an teaches us, it's peaceful and gives us hope, because Allah says in the Qur'an [2:286]:
"On no soul doth God Place a burden greater than it can bear."
So how about blaming humanity? You can believe in God and take care of yourself, you shouldn't look at what other people do. Yes, there are wars. Yes, there is hatred. But if there wasn't any of that, how would we be able to praise God and ask Him for good if we never see anything bad?! The Muslims in Iraq are suffering, but in Paradise, they will live happily forever. Those who kill the innocent people will abide in Hell forever, so it's their own problem.
Why should God rid the world of greed? Isn't the individual able to do so himself?! Why do you think fasting is prescribed to Muslims? It's because we become less greedy and more patient! Everything that is bad is due to people themselves, because God has taught us everything good, and if you read the Qur'an, you'll find out that it teaches us what is good and what is not. There is Hell and there is Paradise. Those who spread hatred will be in Hell, unless they repent.
Because when a calamity befalls us, it may be that we learn something out of it, and increase our faith. We believe that this life does not last forever. Then what's good about having good in this life only, and then abide in hell forever?! Why not remain a believer in God and wait patiently until God gives you good, and then makes Paradise your home? Majority of those who aren't Muslims are the ones who are truly depraved. Look at what is happening to the West, just from what I've mentioned!
How about looking at the Western people? They're into intoxicants, homosexuality, fornication, adultery, drugs, naked appearance in public, immoral actions, and so forth. That's even worse than what's happening in Iraq. More people suffer and die annually in the West due to what I've mentioned than those who die due to war in Iraq and Afghanistan! We Muslims praise Allah, and when a calamity befalls us, we say, "Alhamdulillah" - thank God.
If you are a good person but you don't have a religion I think that's good enough...Doesn't matter what you belief in as long as you don't do bad thing to others and yourself,that good enough. I'm Buddhist and have loads of Christian and Muslim friends and they are good people and good friends.
The fact that the Buddha 's proved to be right doesn't mean that the Prophet Muhammad was wrong or anything. They're talking about a science finding comparing to Buddha's teachings. Can't see why you have to keep mentioning the Prophet Muhammad or Qu'ran...Just can't see the connection
The chick narrating this video should do it naked
jiffyware 1 week ago
say you were a student of Buddha 2500 years ago then you did not have nowadays science.
and you did not need our science in order to follow footstep of Buddha and become enlightened! in other words, buddhism is selfsufficient for anyone to start with. anyone with no scientific knowledge can become enlightened. for enlightenned beings - our immature science discoveries are like little baby chat..
xapanxyi 2 months ago
@xapanxyi No, back in the day, you didn't need science to follow the Buddha, the fascinating thing is how modern science has corroborated many of the discoveries of the Buddha especially viz. health benefits of meditation.
opensourcebuddhism 2 months ago 3
When we try to over focus so called Mahayana term, we often mislead novice from the foundamental teaching of Buddha.There is no such thing that is called Mahayana Buddhism, Hinayana Buddhism or Tibetan Buddhism ro even Zen Buddhism. People should not forget the Pali text which maybe closer to original teachings of Buddha.
RanjanLekhy 2 months ago
@RanjanLekhy Thanks Rajan, but why would the Buddha's original teaching be better than the 2 millenia of thought based on his thought? You say there is no Zen or Tibetan etc Mahayana Buddhism. It would surprise those millions to know that...all are based on the Buddha's original teachings....
opensourcebuddhism 2 months ago
@opensourcebuddhism
Sorry for being late to reply. Would you explain your first question? Buddha says in the sky there is no west and east, humans minds demarcated them. In this video what all are discussed also can be found in the Pali texts. My main comment was on OVER FOCUSING on particular school. That is why, in the history, we see several schools mushroomed. Everyone understood Buddhism in their own ways. We need to understand Buddha's teachings in holistically.
RanjanLekhy 2 weeks ago
@MrBaboonArse
There is nothing in the core of Buddhism that you can't verify by way of your own direct experience in reality. Mindfulness is key.
You aren't your body, or your mind, or the perception of either thereof. There is no You, at all. To assume there is, is delusion. This is a big part of enlightenment, and it's VERY easy to see. It can be done in minutes. Just look. Don't think. LOOK. See how well that notion fits against reality.
I hope you look for yourself, and not simply deny.
HylianSpirit 3 months ago
@HylianSpirit I love how this statement fits with the Hart sutra! (I hope that that's the right anglicised spelling!)- Finding oneself means finding nothing! Every-time I reiterate this idea mentally to myself, I get a little closer to comprehending it, which weakens the "me" who does it. So beautiful.
ICanHazCatBurger 3 months ago
Buddhism is the only religeion (not actually a religeon) that has scientific evidence to back it up. So...
blackolps 4 months ago
Lord Buddha said "The knowledge in this universe is as much as the leaves in the forest but this knowledge is not leading to nirvana , in other hand the knowledge that lead to nirvana is just the leaves in hand "
You decide, from the beginning of mankind history how many things we have achieve ?? so many right ?? but everyone on this planet still suffer
kum7104 5 months ago
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kum7104 5 months ago
HEY EVERYONE! EINSTEIN WAS NOT A BUDDHIST!
MrBaboonArse 6 months ago
@MrBaboonArse - I think everyone knows he was Jewish.
matreyia 2 months ago
How come there aren't any notable Buddhist scientists? I mean practicing Buddhists who have made notable contributions to science. I've been Googling round for ages and can't find a single one. All other religions have heaps of such scientists. Weird.
MrBaboonArse 6 months ago
@MrBaboonArse And they also speak a lot about how quantum physics relate to Buddhism :) that's even weirder isn't it ?
devindasahan100 6 months ago
@devindasahan100 Only in that they're desperately trying to make their religion seem credable through scientific pretense. In that respect it's not just weird, it's embarrassing. The fact that perhaps not a single important scientific piece of knowledge has been discovered by the entire Buddhist community over hundreds of years kinda backs this up, don't you agree?
MrBaboonArse 6 months ago
@MrBaboonArse But why are you so jealous about this ? do you have any facts to say that Buddhism does not relate to Quantum Physics, go find what Albert Einstein has said on Buddhism. Do you think people can't understand ? it's clear my friend, you're jealous ! because you can't even think about "Quantum physics and Bible" and you have NO FACT against this vid. so you have got some completely irrelevant comment posted on here. I'm not wasting my words on you after this :)
devindasahan100 6 months ago
@devindasahan100 I'm not jealous. I just made an observational comment that is true. The Einstein quote is a quotemine; he was opposed to all organised religions and outspokenly dismissed non-objectivity as rubbish. I'm not a Christian (why assume I am?). I have a physics degree but yes, I find it difficult to think about QM and I don't think I'm clever. You had an angry outburst and now you're sulking - all because I pointed out a fact. Think about that.
MrBaboonArse 6 months ago
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devindasahan100 6 months ago
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devindasahan100 6 months ago
@MrBaboonArse You'll need to get a degree in Telepathic studies before judging how angrily burst out I am :) Do you know that the last time I had my physics term test, I had the highest marks in my class or may be the whole grade ! ;) (just because you mentioned your degree) and Einstein has said, (when I say "has said" it means "has said") "Buddhism has the characteristics of a future cosmic religion" bye and have a nice day my friend....... :) and I'm sorry if my previous comment hurt you.
devindasahan100 6 months ago
@MrBaboonArse Somehow your first comment seems completely for the purpose of insulting Buddhists and Buddhism. And if you think anyone should become labelled scientists to contribute to science, all I have to say is open your mind ! The best scientist in whole universe was The Buddha, he supplied the answer for the biggest problem every being has. I am SURE, you don't atleast know the four noble truths in Buddhsim. Well, uncle Albert knew what Buddhism is before making his comments :)
devindasahan100 6 months ago
@MrBaboonArse If someone becomes Buddhist then he does not see point in becoming scientist only because Buddhism is perfect and it does not need science to prove it.
xapanxyi 5 months ago
@xapanxyi
that is not what buddha teaches
with that kind of mindset you'd be no different than any other blind religous nut..buddha clearly teaches to push the boundaries and question everything even his teachings..learn from experience and through research never accept blindly from anyone..to know something to be true you must be able to present evidence or facts
TenTonTommy777 2 months ago
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truthseeker010101 1 year ago
Some Christians become Faithful servants through the Christian church, but this is not a big number I would assume. If God came to a buddist and said , only buddist go to heaven, I would say, send me to hell, I am no longer a buddist" budda My favorite quote. If heaven is in the sky, the birds will proceed you, Buddism has a good place in the spirtual journey. : )
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
The temple of God is YOU! Your body, he will come in if you simply ask. Jesus is a son of God as you are, and he is The Messiah that will come to bring peace for a 1000 years. One love Jah Lives
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
"I like your Jesus but I do not like your Christians" one lvoe
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
Buddhism is not religion, it's a way to live life, it's not so far away from how Jesus lived his life. onelove
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
@truthseeker010101 Yes it is, the Buddha got his teachings from seeing the world and using his logic, as well as A Posteriori Knowledge, to find the truths that put and end to suffering. He did this without any help from a transendant being. Jesus was merely a prophet from God who taught God's law to the world.
1TheTain 1 year ago
@1TheTain You are not wrong, Jesus is the Messiah to the world, different from a prophet , but more like a super prophet if we could, and he taught us that we are all sons of man in the flesh and sons of God in spirit. I love my master Jesus, I want to obtain more then a good life on earth as Buddist have, I do like the philosphy but I must follow the one true path to eternal life, following God in faith, and love. one love
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
@truthseeker010101
though i like your jesus but do NOT like christians...
if any master can produce so many bad students then he is not really a good master!
xapanxyi 2 months ago
@xapanxyi thats a thought. Paul produces what your calling "christians" and I agree that Paul is no master. There is no teaching that makes a man, you either defeat the lion or you are eating by it.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@1TheTain just like Bob Marley, I don't like the ISM SCISM of going to heaven for faith in jesus , but to follow Jesus, "pick up your cross and follow me"
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
Christians don't believe in a 6 day creation! Why does the whole world assume this? The Bible may say "days" but in the following chapter it says that the "days" being described are like "a 1000 years to God" and then it says "1000 years to God is like a watch in the night". Later in the Qu'ran God tells Muhammad to change it to "6 periods of time" The universe was prepared for us in "6 periods of time" then Adam, was given spirit from God, The divine spark. one love
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
@truthseeker010101 It doesn't change the fact that Christianity is sexist, homaphobic and constantly tries to dominate other religions and athiests into their way of thinking. It is even rascist as Jesus is always depicted as white, when in actuallity he would have probably been a black man due to the place he was born in. Also, I think it's strange that nearly all of the Christian festivals were actually taken directly from Paganism, another religion that was destroyed by power mad christians
1TheTain 1 year ago
@1TheTain you just names all the reasons not to go to a church, and I agree with you completly brother, God is not found in a church.
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
Good video. Buddhism is definitely a very satisfying religion in intellectual terms. I also think the same can be said with vedanta hindu philosophy. it is incredible. You should checkout the life and work of Meher Baba, he was a legitimate spiritual master. He has many mighty epic quotes.
soldatheero 1 year ago
Many faiths and sciences are converging for a reason.They're seeking the same truth along different paths.I could expand on that if I had more than 500 characters to work with.You-tube censorship strikes again ! Nice video thanks to the uploader.
royalspin 1 year ago
this isnt science, this is you guys taking some theroies and tacking on religion which makes it religion.
Bycoon 1 year ago
Buddism is the only Religon that work in the world in a good way without doing any harm.. Fuck other religons.
Lilycha100 1 year ago
@Lilycha100 Jesus felt the same way, He threw all the tables in the church and left it. one love
truthseeker010101 1 year ago
仏教はすでに量子力学を感覚的に理解していたのでしょう。そして科学はようやく仏教の概念を科学的に正しいと証明できたわけです。数千年かかった...。
ThePierreChannel 1 year ago
It's funny how scientist keep discovering that Buddhism was ahead of them but through a different method of inquiry. Science destroys the subject in the process of inquiry. This wouldn't be exceptable in a Buddhist tradition.
attilaclark 1 year ago
fuck and i though i was going crazy!!!
christuimbirek 1 year ago
People, don't be so narrow-minded! Many physicists today do not only admit the budhism philosophy as they encourage people experiment by itself. The work here presented is completly laudable. One cannot reject something that is unknow by the OWN experience; otherwise, it becomes a dogma. What you should to do is to study a little more about philosophy of science. Then you'd discover a crucial point: even the scientists must have a belief back ground for their interpretations. ;)
78032012 1 year ago
Hinduism <3
r052476577 1 year ago
He never tried to apply buddhism or any spirituality to his actual scientific opinions on quantum physics or his theories of relativity, nor did he believe that science should prove the need for any specific religious truth.
Muffinman10123 1 year ago
@Muffinman10123 Einstein's view was simply that Buddhism was the spirituality most amenable and compatible with science. Buddha was an experientialist focused on the consciousness, but Buddhists were adept physicists as well. The early Buddhist posited a variety of views: atomists, those who asserted "mind moments". Later Buddhists asserted the corelessness of phenomena (anti-atomists) and those who assert consciousness as central. All agree there is no self, just inter-related energies.
opensourcebuddhism 1 year ago 8
@Muffinman10123 so true no need for religion ,religion is ther to control man ,for good or bad reason ,but my personal thought god lives out side of time and space .and we wont ever have the science for that.
crazysillybaby1 5 months ago
There are many schools of buddhism, and all of them subscribe to a different set of dogma regarding the concepts. Einstein didn't believe that spirituality actually explains physical phenomena.
Muffinman10123 1 year ago
"it is virtually impossible to describe in great depth just how interrelated science and buddhism really are, and the absolute connection remains to be discovered."
That's because you are not a physicist, and you should not use physics concepts that you know nothing about to promote your spiritual agenda.
Muffinman10123 1 year ago
@Muffinman10123 How about Einstein as an authority for Buddhism and science? "The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism."
opensourcebuddhism 1 year ago 6
@opensourcebuddhism In that quote, Einstein didn't specify what type of buddhist thought he was referring to, and what he implied is certainly in complete contrast with the new age garbage that you tag along with buddhist thought. Einstein did not believe that "There is no such thing as objectivity. Not only do we influence our reality, but in some degree, we create it. Reality is what we choose.' Einstein was a hard objectivist, believing that objects exist independant of observers
MemeMachine1 11 months ago
@MemeMachine1 dude wut the hell r u talking about? if we dont have senses how the hell can there be a reality except one we create. since we have senses we create this reality. if your blind your reality is one wihtout sight. only sensations of the wind etc.
thegodofpop1 11 months ago
@opensourcebuddhism
You clearly know next to nothing about Einstein and his spiritual/scientific philosophy.
MemeMachine1 11 months ago
Also, you dont understand quantum physics. Stop pretending to.
MemeMachine1 11 months ago
@Muffinman10123 There is much evidence, besides opensourcebuddhism, to suggest that Buddhism and science to posses links. I suggests you research more into the religion, as well as how the two are linked, then argue against these ideas.
1TheTain 1 year ago
@Muffinman10123 -"u should not use physics concepts that u know nothing about to promote your spiritual agenda."
What is so spiritual about
1. There are many world systems.
2. All things are interdependent.
3. All things change and decay
4. Whatever is born must die.
5. All things are empty
6. There's no such thing as a solid unchanging SELF (or SOUL)...???
The statements are repeated in scienctific circles. 2500 yrs. ago, the Buddha would've been 1 of the 1st to possess this knowledge.
matreyia 2 months ago
Thank you for sharing this. This is really heavy stuff and make clear sense.
yakmanok 1 year ago
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There is no evidence that karma transfers into a fetus, a newborn baby, or into another world. Karma is just volition and is probably the most misunderstood term in all of Buddhism. The Buddhist "doctrine of karma" implies that an intentional action (karma) is a cause that gives a result. The karma becomes a seed that bears fruit (an effect or result). This karmic process (Karma Niyama) can be instant. Buddhism boldly claims it can also extend into another life. This last part is based on faith
buddhasknowbest 1 year ago
Well speak as if I am buddhist or that I am angry , both far from. You keep restating the obvious, which is a correction of your original position. Please stop attempting to "champion" physics, your attempt has been futile and you are only making the "religionists" position stronger. I am sure all the "religionists" who read this are thanking you as you attempt to argue with me. Please reread your statements for your errors. I now see why the Dr. stopped attempting to educate you.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
My question to you COCOnutface, Have you ever taken religion courses? These are required in nearly every prestigious college and university in both the US and Europe. If you haven't you might want to, just so that you can say you have peered into the other side. If you can go to the UW - Madison, usually considered a prestigious college, you could take one of the Rev. Dr.'s courses.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@cptamericajd Almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever. Go tell that to your imaginary prestigious religious course.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@cptamericajd Hey cptamericajd: Did I mention that almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever?
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace Oh yes, I agree few do. But still, you have self discovered that there are some. I have made you correct yourself, therefore I feel much better for intervening in this conversation. The interesting thing of this current time is that more and more physicists are looking at the other side, read a research journal some time. Also, you know Stephen Hawkings, supposedly the greatest mind of our time, well he himself admitted to believing in time travel, OMG what a ludacris concept.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@cptamericajd If only you realised how silly you sound, angrily blabbing on about 'the other side', 'time travel' and 'prestidious science courses that teach religion'. And yet all the time you've been refusing to accept and address the fact that... Almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever. (Psst...Didn't Buddha say something about not avoiding awkward questions?)
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace Hmm, that funny my last statement said something like, "Oh yes, I agree few do." OMG please learn how to read.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
If Buddhism agrees with quantum physics then how come all reputable physicists dismiss Buddhism as nonsense along with all other religions? Either physicists don't know anything about physics, or ...
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace you should google: Einstein Buddhism quote then tell me that all physicists agree with Buddhism being nonsense. he says, that of all religions, only Buddhism is capable of agreement with science and natural phenomena. Let's get real: the Abrahamic monotheisms are the only ones with big science issues. Buddha was the first experientialist - scientist: "don't listen to scripture, gurus, other people or even me - let experience be your guru."
opensourcebuddhism 1 year ago
@opensourcebuddhism The Einstein 'quote' is a famous quotemine. Other religions have similar Einstein quotemines too - you are all scraping the bottom of barrel because your religions have no scientific/philosophical credability whatsoever. Almost all of today's leading physicists are atheist (no, Buddhism is very different from atheism) - you ignore this because you're stubborn to the truth (ironic since you're trying to support Buddhism, lol).
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace ok buddy, tell me how the idea that we are a bundle of integrated sensations projecting a world via our consciousness based on sub-conscious cravings leading to dissatisfaction and the attainment of mental calm, violates "science" in any way. The "no-self" paradigm for the consciousness has been scientifically corroborated by Davidson and the Waisman center. There is no place to the "ego". That was Buddha's discovery. All things are inter-related = no self. How is that wrong?
opensourcebuddhism 1 year ago
@opensourcebuddhism My, My. You don't like to be proved wrong, do you. There's really no need to try to argue that Buddhism has any scientific merit - this silly argument can be resolved simply. Thus: All of today's reputable physicists believe that Buddhism has no scientific merit whatsoever. Please do continue pretending you know more about physics than the entire phisics community - you're very amusing.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace you are just a science fundamentalist. never replied to my points at all. rather just be filled with yourself and "righteousness" of being the "only true faith, all others, completely wrong" just so like american fundamentalists. since you can't reply logically to the points i raise, i see you are another person with whom i have wasted time. science fanatics can be idiots too. just try proving confucianism wrong through science - double dog dare ya! you just don't know nothin
opensourcebuddhism 1 year ago
@opensourcebuddhism Instead of throwing silly insults, can you try to give a reason why all of today's reputable physicists believe Buddhism has no scientific credablitly? I produced this simple fact in my first comment and you have done nothing but respond with anger. Buddha would be very, very disapointed with you (In a symbolic sense because Buddha never actually existed).
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace Why am I bothering? But ok, you won't answer my question, let me ask you another: cite your source: ALL QUANTUM PHYSICISTS DISMISS BUDDHISM AS NONSENSE" find me one, find me ALL. It is simply unscientific and only dogmatic to say things like this. Neils Bohr chose the Ta'i Chi as his coat of arms when knighted by Denmark. Or doesn't he count? Or is Daoism somehow more "scientific" than Buddhism? Was Socrates a scientist? He believed more unprovable things than Buddha
opensourcebuddhism 1 year ago
@opensourcebuddhism Find you all? Ok: all of today's reputable physicists. There, I did it. Now you find me one...oh wait, you can't because none are Buddhists. (P.S. You may as well be trying to argue that India borders Bolivia, ignoring the fact that no reputable geographer agrees with this). You're a barrel of laughs, please keep entertaining us all with your petty excuses!
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace Joel Primack a leading (reputable) astrophysicist at the University of California believes in science and God. Therefore the logic of your statement that all physicist dismiss Buddhism as nonsense along with all other religions is false and thus by Aristotlean logic your premise is false since you derived the one from the other. Since one exists your statement is flawed, please revise.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@cptamericajd Belief in God has nothing to do with Buddhism. And still, no leading physicists are Buddhists...lmao
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace It was not my statement that put God with Buddhists. It was your question, "How come all reputable physicists dismiss Buddhism as nonsense along with all other religions?" The word ALL by logic encompasses religions that include God. By including this you have shown your bias and presented your flaw. You should honestly read your won posts. Obviously, there is no room to argue with someone already full of their own beliefs, and who trudges forward stepping on their own tongue.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@cptamericajd Almost all of today's leading physicists consider Buddhism to have no scientific merit whatsoever. You refuse to acknowledge this simple fact because it puts the 'Buddhism and Science' comparison into clear perspective. Instead, you try to bypass this through claiming I am full of my own beliefs and stepping on my own tongue. You are a typical religionist.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace Ah you have stated it, "almost all," now you have accepted your flaw by adding the word "almost" to your steadfast ideals. Good for you. I do not refuse to acknowledge items within the context of your statements that are full of logic or merit, because I myself cannot be a religionist. Nowhere have I stated views on my religion. I have no earth-bound religion. My religion is math and physics, I merely have conversations with the Rev. Dr. on religion. Thus I can argue both sides.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@cptamericajd By 'all' I meant 'nearly all', assuming readers would have the intelligence to understand this. But, just for you, here is my statement in more rigid terms: "Nearly all of today's leading physicists regard Buddhism as having very little or no scientific validity whatsoever." Are you again going to try to avoid the implications of this fact through provoking a silly argument about logic commands?
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace The funny thing is logic is not silly, especially for someone who considers science the only answer to the universe, and I hope you know what they say about assuming.... . The only guaranteed truths lie in mathematics, even physics changes. Physics gets corrected all the time. I am not trying to provoke you, I am showing you how you do not have all the answers, as I do not either. As for my intellect the Rev. Dr. and our circles know my credentials, and that is good enough for me.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@cptamericajd Mathematics gets updated just as much as physics does. What a naive understaning you have for someone who attended a 'prestigious' course. You remind me of a kid who's trying desperately to pretend he's educated in science, in order to try to win a lost argument. Quite sad, really.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace The funny thing is you already lost the argument because you asked for others to find one when there was none and yet I was able to get you to correct yourself.
Mathematics makes new discoveries, but a proof is permanent. What a naive understanding you have of mathematics.
As for prestigious schools and the course contain in them, it is funny you mock them, you remind me of a kid who has not even finished high school and would like to think big.
cptamericajd 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace in your C0C0nutFace dogma boy!!!!
cpvu1991 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace I don't consider Buddhism to be a religion.
kinamina1 1 year ago
@kinamina1
It can be a philosophy, or a religion, or both.
I consider it more of a philosophy.
A lot of the more religious practices seem to be independent of the mentality, and more of a cultural than anything.
hoodmilk 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace
all reputable physicists don't dismiss Buddhism at all...
Either they don't mention it all or they have something good to say
I've never heard any scientist dismissing Buddhism...
as a matter of fact Buddhism is a spiritual philosophy rather than a religion
even if you classify it as a religion...it is neither theistic nor has any creation myths in it...
don't comment on something you have very little knowledge of...
yarzharl 1 year ago 14
@yarzharl Not a single one of today's reputable physicists believes Buddhism to have any scientific significance. But you choose to ignore this, just as other dummys do when they pretend their religion has scientific attachment. Buddhism is a religion because it presents a brash, complicated universal explanation with no evidence whatsoever. Get an education, hippy.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace the big bang and many other theories have big gapes that are filled with faith, assumptions based on what evidence they have. they are not always right and you cant explain the beauty of life with a fucking equation. something logical can be wrong. quantum field is emptiness, entanglement is unity, observer affect is reality. they are just different ways of explaining the same thing.
iamdk007 1 year ago
@iamdk007 Well done for showing everyone that you know nothing about what science is. Just because you've always been terrible at math doesn't mean 'beautiful things' can't be described through math.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace You clearly have no knowledge of Buddhism. Even Einstien himself said that Buddhism was a religion that could cope with scientific advancement. Also, it is debatable as to whether Buddhism is a religion as it does have a God, it is seen more as a philosophy.
1TheTain 1 year ago
Yes reality is what we CHOOSE. Right or wrong, understand/ignore, truth/lies, etc. Its not what you manifest w/super powers like the force. Poverty is NOT a state of mind but a state of LIVING. I am not unwealthy b/c I am not rich in the mind. I am unwealthy b/c 13 families control 90% of the worlds money. I am not unhealthy b/c my mind is poisioned but b/c Im ingesting toxins like flouridated water or mercurized high fructose corn syrup, or maybe its b/c I CHOOSE to eat too much damn McDonalds
MetatronThaMartian 1 year ago
Life is not a video game where you can create your reality. What happens when the world I create isnt the one you have. I mean whose world are we living in? Yours or mine? Neither. All this belongs to the source. The Creator. You were created and did not evolve as a living entity from non living materials or chemicals or dead matter/space dust. Its called intelligent design and Bhuddism does not recognize this. Uhmm we just happened but not really b/c nothing has a real exiistance. Nihilism. Ha
MetatronThaMartian 1 year ago
@MetatronThaMartian Is that why you don't like Buddhism? Because it does not support your ID idea? Anyone with a little chemistry background can tell you that every physical thing is made up of atoms which are NONLIVING. Even if ID was true, that would still mean that God created us from NONLIVING matter. Study more into chemistry and you would know atoms are 99% empty space. That would mean if we are made up of atoms, we are technically 99% empty space. Do you even know how the brain works?
TheeCoolinator 1 year ago
Do not dispute and study knowledge :) Focus on your self rather than on others. If you forget who you are and know who others are, you will suffer a lot. If you know yourself you will begin to understand others
MrDevah 2 years ago
Like I mentioned, there are no right or wrong in these kind of discussion. And of cause, no winner or loser.
Contrary to what you think, I DO RESPECT ISLAM despite the negative comments from your muslim brothers.
I want to extend my SINCERE APOLOGY to you, but I do not regret upsetting you.
One last thing, I am still stick to my point. YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BUDDHISM AND CERTAINLY NO UNDERSTANDING AT ALL.
PS: I will post no more, so Mizgor, good day to you.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
Mizgor, I can see you are upset, GOOD!
Now can you understand how, the non muslims feel when your fellow muslim brothers commented the way like I did?
That's my purpose of putting my comments here, that's my purpose of putting you down.
Yes, you bet I'm upset too. The way your muslim brothers twisted and distorted Buddhism, and I know now, you are different from them.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
I'm not upset. I also don't think it's funny if I were upset, but if that's what you think, then you're welcome to continue thinking that way.
I think that you should understand that a Muslim does not represent Islam when he does what Islam is against. I know that there are Muslims who do bad things to others, such as killing innocent people, but that goes against Islam's teachings. You have to understand that. Among the sheep, there is a wolf. That doesn't apply to Muslims only.
Mizgor 2 years ago
O mizgor, you are here! good good good
tnoneclick 2 years ago
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tnoneclick 2 years ago
You're ruining the image of Buddhists with those kind of comments.
You're talking disrespectfully about Muslims, and you don't even mention where I've pretended to be right.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Typical Muslim? What do you want me to be? Do you want me to agree with what you're saying? Agree that Islam's teachings are pathetic? Agree with whatever you say? That is never gonna happen, for as long as it goes against my religion. I haven't offended you one single time, nor your religion, but you have offended my religion, Muslims, and myself, and you comment on my ego? If you don't wish to debate about anything, then leave. There are more nice Buddhists than yourself I'll talk to.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Who cares what's your quran says?
I don't need a book, claims to be the words of creator, to tell me what to do and believe.
So spare us with all your quotes, which we are going to reject, and let it to control you.
It is your right to reject other religions, their views, their teaching, etc,
However, you come here to claim islam is the truth, others are filled with errors and contradictions, shows that you have NO RESPECT for other religions at all.
Is that what islam teach? Pathetic.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
If you don't care what the Qur'an says, then don't. However, if you think that other Buddhists don't care, you're wrong. I'm sure many Buddhists want to hear about other religions, and read the Qur'anic verses I write here. My goal is not to make you a Muslim by writing them, but to prove my points. I don't think you should pretend to be the spokesman of all Buddhists when you say that I should spare you for them.
Mizgor 2 years ago
If you think that I commented here to prove that Islam is right on the first place, you're totally wrong. I came here to watch that video, and start a discussion about science in Islam and Buddhism. I also didn't come here to tell you that other scriptures are filled with errors, but I simply said that because that is the reason for why I am not a Christian, Jew, and so forth. There is nothing wrong with that. It's like when you say you're a Buddhist because you don't believe in God. That's it.
Mizgor 2 years ago
If you think that I have no respect for other religions, then you're skimming through my comments, not reading them properly. My religion teaches people to respect every other religion. I'm not being disrespectful when I tell you that the reason why I'm a Muslim and not a Christian etc., is because I know that there are errors and contradictions in the Bible, and other monotheistic scriptures. Your religion is not monotheistic, so don't get all angry over this.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Why can't you have a proper discussion? You're not representing Buddhists, which is good, otherwise the world would not have a positive view on Buddhism. You should be more relaxed like
dandylionist is. You're being disrespectful yourself, and you're saying that I'm disrespectful? That's nonsense. Should I call it disrespect that you're not believing in God? Of course not. The same way, it is not disrespectful if I tell you why I'm not believing in other monotheistic scriptures besides Qur'an.
Mizgor 2 years ago
"Is that what islam teach? Pathetic."
This shows how disrespectful you are. How would you react if I said that it's pathetic that you're making statues of Buddha, even though he never said that you should make any statue of him? Would you react as respectfully as I do when you say pathetic after mentioning Islamic teachings? Also, if I am disrespectful in any way, or if I offend you, then I apologize in advance, because I'm not here to offend you.
Mizgor 2 years ago
What's the difference? Your narrow view on Buddhism are so pathetic and here you are, claimed to know about Buddhism?
You might well claimed that you know all of the other religions in the world. You are just fooling yourself.
I DON'T belief in a creator, so spare me with your preaching.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
What's your point in saying that I don't know enough about Buddhism? I know as much as needed for me to understand it. No belief in God, and that is not for me.
My view on Buddhism is like my view on almost all other religions except my own. I respect the good teachings, and that Buddhists through them can relax and so forth. However, no belief in God keeps me away from it.
Mizgor 2 years ago
I don't care which scriptures, after going through them with a bias mentality, than concluded them to be filled with errors and contradictions, are unacceptable.
You can defend your qur\an, so what? If you do not accept others view, we can reject yours. It's ain't going to change anything.
Fact was innocence people been killed, you muslim can continue to deny.
Who cares about your evidence, drafted by your fellow muslim, with zero credibility?
tnoneclick 2 years ago
There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that I don't believe in other monotheistic religions because their scriptures contain errors and contradictions. I'm just telling you the truth. Do you want me to say that it's because I don't care, or because I'm convinced that the Qur'an is the word of God without knowing how the other scriptures are? I know how the other scriptures are, so that's why I'm telling you that I'm not believing in them due to their errors and contradictions.
Mizgor 2 years ago
I'm not mentioning Buddhist scriptures, because it is enough for me to know that they aren't about believing in God. If you think I'm talking about Buddhist scriptures when I'm saying that other have errors and contradictions, then you're wrong.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Whether you believe that 9/11 was done by Al Qaeda or the Bush-administration, it's your own case. But you shouldn't blame Muslims for it, because Islam does not teach anybody to kill innocent people. It teaches that we must fight those who fight us, but if they want peace, we must make peace, and we must avoid killing civilians as much as we can. Now, if you believe that Islam promotes violence, then you're misinformed.
Mizgor 2 years ago
That's why I said you guys need to focus on those naughty Muslims before they go around killing innocent people. to be honest ,Mizgor, you are making Islam seem more scary to me than before I read what you write.I start to feel that most Muslims don't really want to be Muslims at all but they are too scared to say it. Because you guys seem to be angry all the time,this is purely from what you wrote. relax......don't kill me.
dandylionist 2 years ago
These comments were to tnoneclick, not you.
I am not trying to sound angry, nor am I angry. I just have to debate with so many people, and whilst writing to you guys, some other people with usernames that are provocative to Muslims said all kinds of things about Islam, so it may be that I sounded too strict or something related to that.
I think that we should all tolerate each other. Muslims and Buddhists can coexist peacefully in America, for example. There is no need to be cruel.
Mizgor 2 years ago
As I usually say, don't judge Islam by the deeds of its followers. If I turn out to be a disrespectful person in your sight, then I apologize because that is not my goal, however, Islam has not taught anyone do be disrespectful.
tnoneclick seemed to be angry, and that doesn't mean I should change my position on Buddhism just because he is angry over something.
Mizgor 2 years ago
I want to make it clear to you that if any Muslim kills an innocent human being in the name of God, then he is not acting upon what Islam teaches. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say that we are allowed to kill innocent people. In fact, it says that whosoever kills an innocent human being, it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind.
Mizgor 2 years ago
o mizgor, you muslims are so so selfish and blind, only concerned your muslims being a minority in other's countries. Why mentioned only China? Who are the minority in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia and many more?
What! You managed to find out only andalusia? I don't even heard that name, search more. Anyway, what that andalusia tuned into later is not important, fact was to claim that no lands were ever invaded by the muslims are distorting the history.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
If you're gonna keep reading my comments without understanding, then I see no point in discussing with you. Either you read my comments and understand them properly, or else I'm gonna ignore what you write and discuss with somebody else.
I said that 50% of all Muslims in the world are minorities. Those in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, etc. are not minorities, but that's why I said 50%, not 100%. You cannot deny that fact. See: USA, France, UK, Russia, Australia, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany etc.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Mizgor , I think you misunderstood me completely, what I meant was my Muslim friends were doing what Islam told them not to do because deep in their hearts they hated to be told what to do. I don't have the urge to drink or to have sex like they do because I'm not under pressure like they are. may be you need to relax a bit. and like I said don't worry too much if the Buddhists don't worship God,you'd better worry about the naughty young Muslims in stead. Quality's better than quantity
dandylionist 2 years ago
First of all, I'm not here to force you to convert to Islam or anything like that. I was watching the video, and thought about comparing the science in Qur'an and your scriptures (i.e. Tipitaka).
Tell me, if Muslims didn't spread and just remained in Saudi Arabia, do you think we would survive? We are making up 1/4 of the world population, yet we are under constant pressure from everybody, wars are being waged against us, propaganda is being spread about us and our religion.
Mizgor 2 years ago
dandylionist, when I said, "First of all, I'm not here to...", I was talking to tnoneclick, not you. I replied to you by a mistake.
Regarding what you said, Islam does not force anybody to be a Muslim. If you want to be a non-Muslim, then fine. If they feel that they don't wanna do what they're told to, it's their own case. However, just like they listened to their parents and did what their parents wanted them to do, they can also do what Islam tells them to do. The results are always good.
Mizgor 2 years ago
If you create something, you'll be the first one to tell what it consists of. The Qur'an says, chapter 21, verse 30:
"We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"
Who, besides the Creator Himself, could have told us 1,400 years ago that every living thing was made of water?
Who could have made food necessary for our survival? Who could have made the sun, to make the plants grow, so that they help us live and we help them live? Who lets rain fall for vegetation?
Mizgor 2 years ago
Where did I say that Buddhism "only" teaches a great deal of good? Are you misunderstanding what I'm saying, or are you trying to make me look like somebody who doesn't know anything?
You should know that nothing can exist without a Creator. Intelligent design is something extraordinary. There is no way that any living being could possibly exist without somebody giving it intelligence, sight, and all other senses.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Firstly, I said, "among other religions that are monotheistic, their scriptures are filled with errors and contradictions." I mentioned monotheistic religions, not atheistic, polytheistic, or anything else.
Secondly, people do claim that there are errors and contradictions in the Qur'an, but I just respond to them.
Thirdly, 3,000 people died on 9/11, not 6,000 and over. Also, it was not done by anybody else than the Bush-administration. There is evidence enough supporting my claim.
Mizgor 2 years ago
mizgor, If you think that Buddhism only teaches a great deal of good, then you DON'T KNOW Buddhism.
It's OK that you don't understand why Buddhist don't believed in a creator, I am not going to convince you.
So, likewise, do not try to convince the non muslims to accept your view.
Respect each other religions, respect each other differences, the world will be a better place.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
Killing innocent people, is one of the greatest sin in ALL the religions, not solely on islam.
Don't used self defense as a smoke screened to justify your muslim's actions.
Tell it to those over 6000 innocent peoples who killed in NY's WTC on 911.
As for the muslim's invasions and killings, search for yourself, don't expect me to feed you the information.
In these globalization age, peoples are spread around the world, so don't used it as an excused to claim muslims are minority.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
Where is my excuse? You are totally misunderstanding what I am saying. Just because I say that Muslims are spread around the world, and that about 50% of them are minorities, it is not an excuse for anything, but a simple fact. Most Chinese are gathered in China, so they are minorities in other lands, but most of them are definitely not minorities.
If you are talking about Muslim invasion in Andalusia, you should know that it turned Europe into what it is today, and not another Africa.
Mizgor 2 years ago
To mizgor, how do you feel when others peoples claim the the quran was nothing, filled with errors and promotes violent and hatred.
Who are you to give comment that the rest of the religion's scriptures are filled with errors and contradictions?
You DO NOT UNDERSTAND even a tiny bit of Buddhism and certainly Buddhism is nothing supernatural at all.
Similarly, I totally reject islam is because of this creator stuff and men must totally submitted to him.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
Buddha understood that all forms of matter cannot be created but is like a cycle that is constantly changing, matter cannot be created nor destroyed. but go through transformation. so the idea of creation is false. both buddhism and science both understand this fully.
htedenzer 2 years ago
The point is that Buddhism teaches a great deal of good, however, it does nor teach us to worship God, which is something I don't understand. God has created us, yet most people deny it.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Killing innocent people is one of the greatest sins within Islam. It is so much prohibited that if anybody slays an innocent human being, it is as he has slain the whole of humankind.
Compared to the entire world, we aren't minors, however, we are so spread in different countries, that most 50% of us are minors. Examples are Denmark, USA, France, Great Britain, Australia, and so forth.
Which countries were destroyed by Muslims? All of the invasions by Muslims were due to self-defense.
Mizgor 2 years ago
I do have understanding of Buddhism. You don't necessarily worship the statues, but you do treat them as if they were something supernatural, no doubt about that.
The thing that keeps me away from religions like Buddhism is that they don't tell you to believe in God. I don't see how it is possible that everything exists without a creator. Also, among other religions that are monotheistic, their scriptures are filled with errors and contradictions, whilst the Qur'an is not.
Mizgor 2 years ago
mizgor, we should respect each other faith and not give distorted view and demonised them.
If you muslims continues to do so, do not blame others doing likewise.
It is useless to argue whose religion is more right or wrong. Neither you nor I are willing to accept each other views anyway.
So, don't imposed your muslims view on us and neither are we interested to share with you.
You can continue to think that 3/4 of the world are worshipping the devil, so do we 1/4 of you, believe in the demon.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
If corruption, killing, kidnapping and raping done by muslims were considered as moral standards, than I agreed with you totally.
muslim make up 1/4 of the world population are hardly a minor.
Again, you muslim like to claim that you are being trashed and humiliated, and lands been invaded.
Looking through past history, many lands been invaded, many non muslims lives had been destroyed, were committed by the muslims.
Again, don't denied that or pretend those were fabricated.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
You muslim believes in a creator and must submit to him, just like most dictator of the our recent history, yield to me- or be condemned to death or jail.
True, Buddhism is not a monotheistic religion, it is not based on belief in a God as creator of everything. But NEITHER it is based on worshiping statues to seek
spiritual achievements.
Like I mentioned again, You knew NOTHING about Buddhism.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
Throwing question back to you, -What is it that islam has to offer but Buddhism doesn't? Then again, you only knew a narrow and distorted view, you do not have to comment.
There is nothing I want to know about islam, I have read your posting here, and whatever questions and argument here were meaningless as you don't know ANYTHING about Buddhism.
tnoneclick 2 years ago 5
To mizgor, what's make you think muslim like you, with no understanding of buddhism, denied the teaching of the Buddha?
And don't you claimed to know Buddhism as I had watched many videos on you muslims who gave many many distorted and wrong views on Buddhism.
I am sure you do not want the non muslims around the world to condemne your religion as evil.
tnoneclick 2 years ago
I truly wish it was quality rather than quantity, but in these days and in this case, quantity plays a huge role. We Muslims have the highest level of cultural and moral standards than anybody else, and that is quality. We are making up 1/4 of the world population, which is quantity, and because we are minors (we aren't living in one or a few countries like the Chinese), we are being trashed and humiliated, and our lands are getting invaded.
Mizgor 2 years ago
I mean all the regulations in Islam are quite strict. Too strict for me. I have a lot of friends from Arab country they all drink alcohol and try to have sex to as many women as they can but when questioned they said they have to make to most of the freedom they can have before they went back home to strict rules. this is the cry for freedom from average young Muslims. You should focus on quality rather than quantity.don't try too hard converting new people,better focus on the existing number.
dandylionist 2 years ago
Do you think it is strict not being allowed to drink alcohol and act upon fornication? Look at what is happening to the West due to alcohol and fornication, and all kinds of things that are prohibited in Islam! And you call having sex with someone you aren't married with "freedom"? You call drinking alcohol "freedom"? That is freedom that leads to catastrophes, and if you aren't aware of that yet, you will be, when your societies end up being worse than huts.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Let everybody cry for what they want, but Islam only prohibits what is bad. It is saddening that even Buddhists believe in "freedom"! What do you want to achieve by drinking alcohol?! What do you want to achieve by acting upon fornication and adultery?! What do you want to achieve by watching pornography?! What do you want to achieve by being half naked (if not almost 100%) in public?! What do you want to achieve by being allowed to visit discotheques?! Is that what you call "freedom"?
Mizgor 2 years ago
I'm not staying away from Islam. I believe in living in harmony. Buddhist is my choice and people around respect that. It's like you choose to be Muslim,I hope you did and people don't keep asking you not to because it not nice to question other people's personal decisions. All should have the right to choose. What I like about Buddhism is freedom,harmony,mercy,open minded,etc.A Buddhist needs not to convert his girlfriend,it not nice to have to chance the person you love.
dandylionist 2 years ago
To begin with, we Muslims are not allowed to marry anybody besides other Muslims, Christians, or Jews. It applies to Muslim men only, because Muslim women are only allowed to marry Muslim men. If you want to know why, feel free to ask me.
Mizgor 2 years ago
I've never though of Islam as terrorism I've been taught since I was little that every religion teaches people to be good. But sadly in every religion there are bad people trying to do bad things using religions as there excuse. I don't think that it's that many people think that Islam is bad or anything but there are a lot of Muslims who have victim mentality they are over sensitive. There are people out there who say bad things about Buddhism but we stay strong and we don't cry about it.
dandylionist 2 years ago
I'm glad you don't think of Islam as promoting terrorism.
But I'd like you to answer the following questions:
-What makes you stay away from Islam, except that you have to believe in a God (supernatural in general)?
-What is it that Buddhism has to offer but Islam doesn't?
Mizgor 2 years ago
I'm happy for you Mizgor. Believing in God with all your heart is a good thing. Even for some Buddhists they find it's hard not to believe in some form of supernatural force. But for others who don't believe in God we have to respect their decision too. The Buddha never said anything bad about anyone's God. So don't you worry. God is there as long as you believe in him,doesn't matter what other people say.
dandylionist 2 years ago
The point I'm trying to make is that converting to Islam will have no bad effect on you if you're converting from being a Buddhist. The biggest step is believing in a God. It may be that you're unsure whether or not Islam is true because of what you're seeing in the media, but I can tell you that Islam is not the way you are imagining it by watching news about terrorists.
What is it that you see in Buddhism and not Islam, except that you have to believe in God as a Muslim?
Mizgor 2 years ago
I as a Muslim will always believe in God, because a calamity is a test for me, and if I pass the test, I will be rewarded for it, if God is willing to reward me. A life in the state of Islamic faith is enough, because suffering in this world and believing in Allah is everlasting happiness in the next world, while being happy and enjoying what is good in this life and abiding in Hell forever in the next is something that should be reasonable enough as an explanation for believing in God.
Mizgor 2 years ago
It shouldn't be hard for you to believe in God. If you're looking for anything similar to meditation, then learn about the Islamic prayer. If you're looking for a happy life, then ask God for it. You shouldn't expect God's help to come out of the blue. You must ask for it. Whatever Buddha has taught you, fine, it's peaceful. But whatever Qur'an teaches us, it's peaceful and gives us hope, because Allah says in the Qur'an [2:286]:
"On no soul doth God Place a burden greater than it can bear."
Mizgor 2 years ago
So how about blaming humanity? You can believe in God and take care of yourself, you shouldn't look at what other people do. Yes, there are wars. Yes, there is hatred. But if there wasn't any of that, how would we be able to praise God and ask Him for good if we never see anything bad?! The Muslims in Iraq are suffering, but in Paradise, they will live happily forever. Those who kill the innocent people will abide in Hell forever, so it's their own problem.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Why should God rid the world of greed? Isn't the individual able to do so himself?! Why do you think fasting is prescribed to Muslims? It's because we become less greedy and more patient! Everything that is bad is due to people themselves, because God has taught us everything good, and if you read the Qur'an, you'll find out that it teaches us what is good and what is not. There is Hell and there is Paradise. Those who spread hatred will be in Hell, unless they repent.
Mizgor 2 years ago
Because when a calamity befalls us, it may be that we learn something out of it, and increase our faith. We believe that this life does not last forever. Then what's good about having good in this life only, and then abide in hell forever?! Why not remain a believer in God and wait patiently until God gives you good, and then makes Paradise your home? Majority of those who aren't Muslims are the ones who are truly depraved. Look at what is happening to the West, just from what I've mentioned!
Mizgor 2 years ago
How about looking at the Western people? They're into intoxicants, homosexuality, fornication, adultery, drugs, naked appearance in public, immoral actions, and so forth. That's even worse than what's happening in Iraq. More people suffer and die annually in the West due to what I've mentioned than those who die due to war in Iraq and Afghanistan! We Muslims praise Allah, and when a calamity befalls us, we say, "Alhamdulillah" - thank God.
Mizgor 2 years ago
If you are a good person but you don't have a religion I think that's good enough...Doesn't matter what you belief in as long as you don't do bad thing to others and yourself,that good enough. I'm Buddhist and have loads of Christian and Muslim friends and they are good people and good friends.
dandylionist 2 years ago
nicely put dandylionist,
me too btw. I do see a need for some to be the "best" - this certainly isn't the attitude of Buddha however...that is why we love him so!
opensourcebuddhism 2 years ago
The fact that the Buddha 's proved to be right doesn't mean that the Prophet Muhammad was wrong or anything. They're talking about a science finding comparing to Buddha's teachings. Can't see why you have to keep mentioning the Prophet Muhammad or Qu'ran...Just can't see the connection
dandylionist 2 years ago