1:34 I've noticed that. I remember one Watchtower or Awake illustration in particular, it was of the Watchtower's much hated preacher of "Christendom" He had a beard and a American flag pin on his suit, the implication being that a man with a beard and a patriotic pin cannot be a moral person. I've also noticed that in Watchtower art the "wicked" people being destroyed at armageddon have tattoos, piercings and if they're men they have long hair or are not clean shaven.
@laflugantabastardo did any of the bearded brothers have any "privileges" (e.g. Ministerial Servants, literature distribution, talks, even microphones)? It has always been my experience, as well as other's, that if you insist on growing any facial hair other than a well groomed mustache, you don't advance. The brother may be baptized, but he'll be seen as spiritually weak since he's not advancing because of not having privileges in the congregation because of his beard.
Though my dad actually used to wear a beard too decades ago until he was told to shave it off, but that was then and this is now. Perhaps it's because we've become a bit more liberal in Holland than the US.
@laflugantabastardo that is very unusual. I have never seen any brothers, especially the ones who want to reach out for privileges, wear beards. Some men who were studying perhaps, but as soon as they declared that they wanted to pursue baptism, they were pressured to shave it off.
Let's put it down to a difference in culture. I live in an area where pot and prostitution is the most normal thing in the world (even if brothers and sisters don't associate with them. Not counting my 61 year old mother - I think she'd do pot if she wouldn't get caught...), so putting it in perspective, what's a beard in the liberal modern sodom and gomorrah that is Amsterdam?
@TheRecoveringZombie Thanks for the Awake upload - I read the article, talk about biased quote mining and misrepresenting arguments and science.Yuk. I sent a link to the Awake to the guys at Atheist Experience.
@TheRecoveringZombie The sad thing is, a lot of the folk reading that magazine at the hall will have no clue that there are viable counter arguments, and the mostly clueless general public who are given that article, will nod their heads and say "yeah, sounds reasonable to me"... there are elements within the article hard to dispute of course (like absolutely disproving a god exists), but, there are clear fallacies that can & should be addressed.
Dang! They must really think people are stupid! Oh man, you rape monkeys and eat babies too? Shame on you. Hitler was not an atheists. I wish they'd get that right. Good points about how immoral the bible can be. You're right. Its actually more righteous to do right without having to consider the presence of God.
@HappyGoat75 At least they didn't name Hitler as an atheist. I'm not sure if it's because they realize he wasn't, or as I suspect, they like to use him to antagonize the Catholics.
Everybody, take a look at Evil Bible dot com. I'm not saying to believe what the site espouses nor to take everything on the website as a given....but take a look at it with an open mind. It will expand your horizons....
@CatskillMountainView I love evil bible dot com! If they made a movie out of the bible and maintained complete accuracy, it would be unfit to show. XXX and more violent than even the most violent movie that's ever been made.
Wow I thought I was alone in my taste for babies! Do you think now they might add it to the regular McDonalds menu? O.o I read this mag also, good to see someone voice my opinion on the matter....cheers!
@TheRecoveringZombie Yes Jesus camp bought me out of a moderately annoyed viewpoint to a flat out intolerant one when viewing religious teachings. As far as I am concerned they are no better than those who mentally or physically abuse their children, for they are scarred just the same.
Fantastic video! You do great work, Zombie :) Sometimes I feel like compiling a bunch of these videos and start doing my own brand of field service. Only thing is - I vowed never to wake anybody up ever again! Great job!
@pianodavy LOL, I have trouble knocking on people's doors to this day. I had to knock on my neighbor's door to give them a package that was delivered to me by mistake. I felt guilty even for that.
@MannyMarvel Their whole facial hair policy is weird. The whole thing of looking like a beatnik, homosexual, or revolutionary is outdated now.
I knew a brother who had such thick facial hair, that he would get horrible pustules on his face when he shaved b/c of ingrown hairs. It was painful for him. He finally let it grow and got so much flack for it, he eventually faded and never returned.
Awesome! Well done RZ! The Pol Pot and Stalin argument is so tired and weak, neither had anything to do with atheism, but instead both leaders created a 'cult of personality' around them like so many theists murdering dictators who committed genocide in the name of god. Even the WatchTower leaders endorse murder with the blood doctrine, is there really any difference here? This clearly demonstrates the authoritarian power these men hold over the JWs rank and file.
@SpecialPioneerSmerf I'm tired of that argument too. Lots of wars are fought over religion, but none that I know of have been fought to spread atheism. And, there is some evidence that Stalin himself was not an atheist. Also those dictators didn't want to compete with the church and the priests for leadership of the populace.
I don't see any difference between a dictatorship and a WT theocracy either.
1:34 I've noticed that. I remember one Watchtower or Awake illustration in particular, it was of the Watchtower's much hated preacher of "Christendom" He had a beard and a American flag pin on his suit, the implication being that a man with a beard and a patriotic pin cannot be a moral person. I've also noticed that in Watchtower art the "wicked" people being destroyed at armageddon have tattoos, piercings and if they're men they have long hair or are not clean shaven.
tubian323 1 month ago
The beard thing is not entirely true; I knew several bearded brothers (and one sister with a mustache) and they never caught any flak.
laflugantabastardo 1 year ago
@laflugantabastardo did any of the bearded brothers have any "privileges" (e.g. Ministerial Servants, literature distribution, talks, even microphones)? It has always been my experience, as well as other's, that if you insist on growing any facial hair other than a well groomed mustache, you don't advance. The brother may be baptized, but he'll be seen as spiritually weak since he's not advancing because of not having privileges in the congregation because of his beard.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie
Yep. One of them used to be an elder.
Though my dad actually used to wear a beard too decades ago until he was told to shave it off, but that was then and this is now. Perhaps it's because we've become a bit more liberal in Holland than the US.
laflugantabastardo 1 year ago
@laflugantabastardo that is very unusual. I have never seen any brothers, especially the ones who want to reach out for privileges, wear beards. Some men who were studying perhaps, but as soon as they declared that they wanted to pursue baptism, they were pressured to shave it off.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie
Let's put it down to a difference in culture. I live in an area where pot and prostitution is the most normal thing in the world (even if brothers and sisters don't associate with them. Not counting my 61 year old mother - I think she'd do pot if she wouldn't get caught...), so putting it in perspective, what's a beard in the liberal modern sodom and gomorrah that is Amsterdam?
laflugantabastardo 1 year ago
Even I have to admit, your take on this is pretty funny
av1611preacher 1 year ago
God isn't real. He's like santa. Fun to believe in, but the cold truth is that he just isn't there.
MrLegalizeweed 1 year ago
Hi there RecoveringZombie, I don't think you're recovering any more. I think you have fully recovered ;-)
Great vid!
SaintBertholdt 1 year ago
@SaintBertholdt thanks. I hope I am. I'm a little anxious about that god virus. It's a bit like herpes, donchaknow!
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
Excellent. Bravo my evil sister.
beardfreak1969 1 year ago
@beardfreak1969 thanks! Evil is as evil does :)
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie Thanks for the Awake upload - I read the article, talk about biased quote mining and misrepresenting arguments and science.Yuk. I sent a link to the Awake to the guys at Atheist Experience.
beardfreak1969 1 year ago
@beardfreak1969 LOL! I'd love to see Matt and Jeff rip into it.
I should have put a facepalm advisory warning before my link. I know I facepalmed so much, I have myself a headache.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie The sad thing is, a lot of the folk reading that magazine at the hall will have no clue that there are viable counter arguments, and the mostly clueless general public who are given that article, will nod their heads and say "yeah, sounds reasonable to me"... there are elements within the article hard to dispute of course (like absolutely disproving a god exists), but, there are clear fallacies that can & should be addressed.
beardfreak1969 1 year ago
Dang! They must really think people are stupid! Oh man, you rape monkeys and eat babies too? Shame on you. Hitler was not an atheists. I wish they'd get that right. Good points about how immoral the bible can be. You're right. Its actually more righteous to do right without having to consider the presence of God.
HappyGoat75 1 year ago
@HappyGoat75 At least they didn't name Hitler as an atheist. I'm not sure if it's because they realize he wasn't, or as I suspect, they like to use him to antagonize the Catholics.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
Excellent!,
jaymurtii 1 year ago
Great video!
Everybody, take a look at Evil Bible dot com. I'm not saying to believe what the site espouses nor to take everything on the website as a given....but take a look at it with an open mind. It will expand your horizons....
CatskillMountainView 1 year ago
@CatskillMountainView I love evil bible dot com! If they made a movie out of the bible and maintained complete accuracy, it would be unfit to show. XXX and more violent than even the most violent movie that's ever been made.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@Kwinnky Yup. The words irony, projection, hilarity, and bullshit should all have this issue next to the main definitions.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
Wow I thought I was alone in my taste for babies! Do you think now they might add it to the regular McDonalds menu? O.o I read this mag also, good to see someone voice my opinion on the matter....cheers!
ulthea 1 year ago
@ulthea I get a kick out of the religious who think children are better off with religious beliefs. Have you seen 'Jesus Camp?' Scary stuff there!
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie Yes Jesus camp bought me out of a moderately annoyed viewpoint to a flat out intolerant one when viewing religious teachings. As far as I am concerned they are no better than those who mentally or physically abuse their children, for they are scarred just the same.
ulthea 1 year ago
@ulthea What?? You don't have the McToddler sandwich in your town? ; P
JTlovesDexter 1 year ago
@JTlovesDexter Nah, they discontinued it. There isn't enough atheists in my city to keep it on the menu.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
This was great- loved it!
ShunThisAss 1 year ago
@ShunThisAss thanks!
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
Fantastic video! You do great work, Zombie :) Sometimes I feel like compiling a bunch of these videos and start doing my own brand of field service. Only thing is - I vowed never to wake anybody up ever again! Great job!
pianodavy 1 year ago
@pianodavy LOL, I have trouble knocking on people's doors to this day. I had to knock on my neighbor's door to give them a package that was delivered to me by mistake. I felt guilty even for that.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie I am very much the same - I wonder how many of us are affected that way now?
pianodavy 1 year ago
Nice deconstruction of that hilarious atheism issue. What morons.
JBSauce 1 year ago
@JBSauce Be careful if you read it. You'll facepalm too much.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
no beard=no nutz, recovering zombie I love you. be well!
MannyMarvel 1 year ago
@MannyMarvel Their whole facial hair policy is weird. The whole thing of looking like a beatnik, homosexual, or revolutionary is outdated now.
I knew a brother who had such thick facial hair, that he would get horrible pustules on his face when he shaved b/c of ingrown hairs. It was painful for him. He finally let it grow and got so much flack for it, he eventually faded and never returned.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
Awesome! Well done RZ! The Pol Pot and Stalin argument is so tired and weak, neither had anything to do with atheism, but instead both leaders created a 'cult of personality' around them like so many theists murdering dictators who committed genocide in the name of god. Even the WatchTower leaders endorse murder with the blood doctrine, is there really any difference here? This clearly demonstrates the authoritarian power these men hold over the JWs rank and file.
Thanks for the vid. =)
SpecialPioneerSmerf 1 year ago
@SpecialPioneerSmerf I'm tired of that argument too. Lots of wars are fought over religion, but none that I know of have been fought to spread atheism. And, there is some evidence that Stalin himself was not an atheist. Also those dictators didn't want to compete with the church and the priests for leadership of the populace.
I don't see any difference between a dictatorship and a WT theocracy either.
Glad you enjoyed it.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago