I agree with you, but I'm still going to keep my pack at about thirty pounds. I've found that with that much gear, I can cover all the NEEDS of survival, but then also have some luxury items, and items to build a permanent shelter with.
I think your being a pussy, I had 150lbs on my back walking through iraq in 130 degree weather for hours and sometimes days. 40, 60, or 80lbs wont be an issue. your just making an excuse for being an out of shape puss. Maybe you should think about getting yourself into shape so that you can evade someone, Ill tell you know, If I was coming after you you would not make it 10 feet before I killed you. You need to unfuck yourself fast
I took my full BOB and hiked 24 miles in 90 degree weather last summer at a state park. Broke in myself and my bag. Was a good learning experience and helped me fine tune my gear and my mind. At a drop of a hat I can grab my bag and walk out the door without looking back or thinking twice about being prepare. Good peace of mind.
This video has got me rethinking my bag. You make a very valid point. My bag is heavy, and my physical condition will need to be improved. There will be one more foolish pack runner out there starting this weekend. Thanks.
i am now subbing because you did this, i do stuff relevant to this and i respect and understand the commitment it takes to go out and do this. good job
I was in the military for 5 years and I completely agree with your video. When i was in we marched around 20 kilometers with about 95 pounds of gear. I would just like to say that being trained in survival is the best tool anyone has in preparing to "bug out". You can have all the gear in the world in your bag but it wont mean anything without the proper knowledge. I agree with the video and for all the read the comment and are preparing a "bug out bag". Read and do research to suit your needs.
You are very correct. You will have to evade because there will be 200 million some odd people that never did any preparations or training running around with sticks and guns trying to steal from people like you and me that did prepare. If you really want to put your bug out bag to the test then actually bug out with it one weekend. Leave Friday night after work walking as fast and as far as you can by Sunday after noon. This will truly put your bag to the test exposing possible problems Gluck
Being obese at 380 pounds, I once walked 1-1/2 miles uphill, gaining 120 feet in elevation, stopping frequently. Reaching the hill top, I continued 2-miles to a restaurant, then after lunch, I finished a 7-mile walk, taking 7-hours. So, what I did was equal to a man weighing 150 pounds, wearing a 230 pound load. You can factor your weight in there, add 230 pounds, and test yourself.
@borderraven While it's good that you're capable of moving that way...evenly distributed body mass is not the same as one large and out of proportion mass on your back. Your body weight, while high, is distributed around your entire body, from your feet to your head. Further, you move it every time you move...and you've built up the muscle mass to move that volume of weight around. Most people who carry large bags do not take them every where they go, every step, like you do.
@waysgoose um, it's actually "Revelation" not revelations, and there is every possibility of something happening that requires a BUG OUT, and it has happened. Natural disasters are a perfect example. To each their own, but why knock someone for being prepared?
Makes me think a small motorized bicycle would help a LOT. More stamina for the trek ahead. May sound stupid, but every mile...is still a mile... ~Kev~
i dont know why so many ppl pack bullshit into their bags. brush up on basic survival skills, like what plants are edible, water sources fire starting techniques.
I keep imagining highways clogged with abandoned vehicles after whatever apocalyptic event transpires. Although redundant preparedness is certainly the way to go, I'm definitely getting saddle bags for my bike...
Now you really are joking? Who is this guy? Are you for real.... For those in the know, you will be joining me in a good laugh.. especially at the rest of his video's!
good video, makes sense that you want to travel light ,but... you should have a BOB for your vehicle that includes the backpack BOB ,that way your first mode of transport is your vehicle until you run out of road or stuck in traffic , or it breaks down , then i would switch to bicycles that would be carried on the back of the vehicle ,this is where you change your BOB to fit the bicycles and then if all else fails you go it on foot again changing your BOB to fit the situation each time .
pack heavy ditch what you dont need based on the situation as soon as you can. for example a large riot vs a natural disaster. i understand the need for moblity but id rather throw some supplies out of my bag rather than not have them packed in the first place
If you see my video you will surprised about how light it is. it is 20 pounds. and i climbed all over my town with it. i'm an urban explorer and i have a question. how many flash lights do you carry?
this is encouraging what you do sir.but by principle-it is great if a person has only minimum weight on him.but it is not necessary a no go for survival to have a 50lbs on the back carrying it long range.if a person believes it's more important to carry 50lbs he has to train accordingly.thats all.one falls in the army or navy bracket-or one goes for the marines P.T. and then is able to carry a full load long range.
I'm 58 Years Old and I train at my local HS pay field. I have early stage Rhumatoid arthritis and my pack is the heavy side of 50 pounds. While I'm not yet ancient, I'm getting old enough where I need to confirm that I am up to the challenge before attempting a back country solo trek. I do a fast pace with trekking poles for equivalant of 2 miles. Your use of a camera on a pic-stik actually contributed to your fatigue as your left arm was fighting against natural momentum.
20 lb Body Glove vest at Walmart: $40. I run with that on. You can take out as many of the 1 lb individual bean bags as you want as you ramp up. I you want to really ramp it up you can get a ruck and practice humping. I would not advise running with a ruck. This can cause stress fractures or cause you to roll an ankle or worse. Talk to any infantryman (which I am not by the way). Humping will get you in shape in a way that is unmatched. You could also put on an old flak. Great excercise!
@Txman1996 The Distribution of weight and subsequent demand on corresponding muscle groups will not be the same with your method. The only proper way to train is as close to 'real world' scenario as possible. That means load the pack exactly as you would use it and hike in adverse conditions and uneven surfaces.
@ianrsigel I don't disagree with what you are saying. However, you go try running with a pack and you will regret it. Do you have any experience humping with a pack, flak, or rifle? Like I said, get in touch with a grunt and they will help you. I am not one, but have done training with this (humps, endurance training). People will roll ankles, go down for heat casualties, get stress fractures, or go down for lack of electrolytes.
@Txman1996 My lottery number was 41...yes on all counts. First to clarify, I DO NOT suggest running with a full pack for the very reasons you cited.. 2nd, I do reccommend a brisk training pace/walk for the reasons I mentioned. However, for someone like myself, it is most important as my joints become weaker every month and I must be certain of my limitations. I do wear athletic knee braces but they rub the back of my knees raw as I perspire.
@ianrsigel I guess when I think about bugging out sometimes I get caught up with myself when I see this and think back to a hump when you see the enemy and are in a MTC Movement to Contact phase. In that phase you drop the pack and run with the rifle. I guess you could practice with a light weight pack, but it better be at or below 30 lbs. Think about what it will be like to run with a rifle. "Bugging out" to me means: pack, rifle, ammo, and water. Bugging out doesn't mean I will be...
@ianrsigel just running away. It will mean differnt things to different people. If you are in an urban setting, maybe you throw your pack on and move out the building and toward a certain rally point. I guess it could have many menaings. I want to prepare for the worst.
WARNING!!!! do NOT train with a pack weighing over 30lbs you WILL blow out joints, cartilage, and possibly fracture bones. Take it from a Marine, train light, but push yourself. You will work out the same muscles and they will not have to strain as much. Doin what this guy does is a great way to be featured on a advil commercial for your arthritus in your early thirtys. Y'all trackin?
5 laps around a soccer field is 1.25 miles. and looking at your shadow your barely running at the end. you expect people to run for half an hour with their packs. running for 30 can take you over 3 miles. is there a average person who can run 1.5 miles without a pack? these bug out bags are rediculously over weight.
I agree with you completely on this. In fact, my "bug out bag" is a day pack that's just big enough for essential tools, a little food, a change of clothes, and a blanket strapped over the top. To my mind, if I need to 'bug out", I'd rather not have two feet of backpack and sixty pounds on my back, getting in the way of mobility....if you can't do a twenty five mile day in a pack, your not packing right, or your not in condition to bug out safely at all.
And, yeah ... pre-placed caches, no more than 20 miles apart, seems like a great idea. ... It *would* be nice to have a flush kindle (e-ink), when I finally get to an A/O but the weight is not justified. Maybe pre-place a jug of survival food tabs and a few MainStay bars ... some Frontier mini-filters ... in a geo-cached ammo box ... 20 miles up, on my main route ... makes a good bit of sense. A Browning 800-Mag pellet pistol (4Lbs), etc. ... Stuff I would not carry but would help greatly.
Totally ! WEIGHT (*THE* primary limiting factor ! ) ... I am 52 yo and my knees are fairly shot ... My pack (total wet carry) MUST come in under ~60Lbs and that is even "way heavy". Ten pounds of that is water+bladders ... another 6lbs just for the pack ... A full suite of electronics (+ xtra batts + Solar rechrg) is starting to look ridiculous ... A center-fire rifle or pistol (+ ammo) is out of the question.
... I paid alot for all my crap ... Now? ... Shedding it, pound-by-pound !
everyone has army color stuff, you need to consider if you do or don't want to look like you are in the a soldier or not, It could help you or you could be a target for some pissed off people under martial law situation.
Great point, I take people here in AZ out on primitive skill trip all the time. At the trail head every time several people show up with a ton of crap and we end up stashing over half their stuff to be collected on the way back. My pack weighs about 25 pound included in that is a gallon of water! 99% are armchair survivalist with a bunch of new gear and no dirt time, thank God! I am counting on them for resupply, LOL!
great point! personally i keep my bag around 20 lbs being army i know how much of a pain a 12 mile ruck is with 50 to 80lbs of gear and i sure as hell wouldnt want to be bugging out having to carry that great vid great points
While I agree with your attitude and applaud your efforts. I have to point out that is the reason for a web belt/LBE and the reason the newer packs have quick release shoulder straps...this allows you to dump the pack and still have what you need to survive/fight. Plus it allows you to be more mobile once the pack is dropped. The reality is you will not outrun anyone without a pack with even with a 20lb pack . On a positive note, getting in shape is always a plus in survival.
1. i will say bravo on you at least walking with a back pack , but 80 lbs isnt nothing ..we oregon militia train every other day and do at least 5 to 20 miles it depends on our commanders ..now , as far as you bugging out...WHAT WILL YOU DO DURING A NBC;s , do you have a mop suit? how bout body armor? how bout ur weapons and ammo , your med kit's?? what im saying is we patriots thinking bugging out will get you killed , in order to survive , HAVE A FALLOUT SHELTER!
I agree. odds are if your bugging out you most likely evading something or someone. My suggestion is to take your bugout bag on an extended hiing/camping trip. it will help you not only learn where everything is but better your skills in using the things in your bag. you'll also be able to figure out what you need or don't need and/or know if you can pack comfort items. every summer i pick through and update and repack my BOB and then go on a camping trip with it.
All My Friends always Pack To Thrive , Excpet Me And My One Other Best Friend , We Do As You Do , We Pack To Survive , My BOB Is approx. 34.5 pounds and i run with it , my friends is 40 exactly , and he rus with it at the same pace , we both train like this constantly , and chalenge ourselves to build camp and survive off what we have for a day or Two , Alone.
if you want a good challange load up and do a 12 mile. time doesn't matter so much. no disrespect to anybody. just thought i'd chime in with my $0.02 worth....... :D
The concept is to have a 2 stage bag. 1 much like the one you have, ready to be used in a "tactical" sense and then another to carry your original bag as well as comfort items, ammo, etc. The 2nd bag is just things that are "nice" to have but when it comes time to run you just leave them behind.
With that said, I can't see myself hiking 13 miles a day with a 80lb pack period...Not sure what the idea behind that is. My overloaded self is only comfortable with around 50lbs.
Love it. NO replacement for actually testing something! I believe in doing a little bit of "Jason Bourne" testing with your pack to simulate some E&E. Jump a fence, climb a tree, army crawl, dead run.
It's an inspiration for me to find a like mind--Thanks!
I trained for the first time 5 months ago with my b.o.b, it was a 12 mile fast walk in light snow, i found that my pack weight was ok, but i walked a mile on a sidewalk that was sloping, so i kept coming down heavier on one side, plus with the added weight of the pack it was tough on my ankle. When I got back onto flat ground it felt a lot better, but learned i need better boots, wore sneakers that day, bad idea.
my BOB is simple,i dont have one.i carry 9 x 30 round mags for my SIG552 on my vest and 1 loaded.ive also got a camel pack,knife and first aid pouch.everything else i need is in my OT810 lol
You give very good suggestions and tell it like it is. I've been the Marine Corps for about 5 1/2 years, I can carry a 150 ibs pack and over with no problems. But I hear too many people that are poorly fit telling me that I need more. My advice. Carry only what you can to the essentials. Otherwise, exercise your body, not just for longer stamina and endurance, but to carry the huge load
I'm quoting from a much smarter person than myself, but ultimately the one thing that has the most value in a survival situation and weighs the least is knowledge. BOBs here and BOBs there, what is the absolute LEAST that a BOB could be with the right knowledge? A good knife, a tarp, 30ft of paracord and a fire-steel? One day, somehow, any of us could be caught out and maybe developing the most minimal kit with the best knowledge is a better goal?
The worst thing about surviving in a SHTF situation, is that you can buy all the gear you want. But in the end you are more likely to die by a trigger happy American, hiding in the bushes with a hunting rifle.
I've been assembling my BOB and agree - weight is critical. I've been training with my bag and tend to walk around my house when home alone - it helps keep my back muscles trained.
Regularly attending the gym and keeping the cardio up is also great. Cheers from Manitoba.
I've been assembling my BOB and agree - weight is critical. I've been training with my bag and tend to walk around my house when home alone - it helps keep my back muscles trained.
Do some research onto backpacking, get gear, go on a 3-5 mile hike to a high mountain lake for 3-5 days and you will have a lot better idea of what is needed and what is possible to carry. Plus it is one of the most fun things I have done.
Nice to see you actually training with your kit! You make a good point right from the start about people having too much weight. Everyone needs to remember that they are NOT Navy SEALs or SAS operators who do have to carry 130 or so pounds of gear sometimes and for extended periods of time. Maybe up to and including a month.
I like the idea... But I saw another guy on YouTube that just put sand in his bag and left the gear at home... You also could put water like the military.
Weight is the primary reason that my bug out weapon is a Ruger MK III .22 pistol I can carry a few hundred rounds for very little weight. Trust me, 22 is plenty lethal to humans, believe it or not. My backup to the 22 would be my double barrel 12ga shotgun for taking down large game (assholes included)...
people keep saying 'bugging out', and i gotta say: bug out to WHERE?
city folks often don't have family/friends in the sticks. this is fact. don't be a person of color (without contacts) trying to bug out to the country. ain't gonna happen.
thing is, yeah, its nice to have a bug out bag, and one SHOULD be in shape (as enviro emphasises).
but instead of 'bugging out', if the stuff really hits the fan, i'll hunker down with family and friends, until i HAVE to bug out to another city.
What do people think when they see you running around at the community field like that? Otherwise, I understand the idea behind the training....Your physical condition could easily be more important than what you have in your bag!
I have hiked hundreds and hundreds of miles. Only then will people understand about taking only what is necessary. I now have a family of five and each of us has thier own bag. water, food, fire, and clothing are redundant between all. No pack weighs more than 20 pounds including water and food. even a 30 pound pack feels like the straps will be cutting through your shoulders after a few hours. good video.
Great video. I actually had to redo my BOB because it was too heavy, since then I have cut out items and kept only things needed ro survive! It's alot much lighter when your packing in a survival mode vs. packing like a vacation or trip mode lol
I'd suggest getting a weight-vest for that kind of training. You should get almost the same results, yet stay way less noticeable than running around with all your gear strapped on.
in a survival situation isn't running a BAD idea? if a situation calls for you to need to book it the eff out of there wouldn't even a 20lb bag be too much? i mean if im running for my life im not going to want anything slowing me down.
Your lucky to be able to do that . unfortunately i cannot , i destroyed my ACL and knee cart. about 6 years ago and it didnt heal right so i get stuck having to walk lol.
Everyone has to have their own plan....depends upon location, family ability, etc. The important thing is to do whatever you're going to do quickly and have food and shelter planned...LOVE, COURAGE
Running is a bitch and 99% of normal people wouldnt run longer than 1 of your laps. Tops. And why would they? :-). Backpacks are for walking and if you really have to run, then you should consider dropping the bag to run to safety. Possible return for the bag later.
Be careful in the public eye. Also think about when you do bug out that you don't look like a survivalist, because you will become a target for the nonsurvivalist. you want to fit in. Also folks may mistake you for military, who knows what's caused a bug out, but folks might be upset with government, ie the military.
Be careful in the public eye. Also think about when you do bug out that you don't look like a survivalist, because you will become a target for the nonsurvivalist. you want to fit in.
Good on you for posting this. Your right to test out your load system as much a is practical. I think your wearing your pack too high like a civilian hiker: try taking it lower and putting more wieght on the hips like military LBE's do. In fact the more you take from hunting and military pratices the better I think. Also look at what forest firefighters are using too: 15-20 litre lumbar pack systems which are far more agile than the civvy "tall and narrow backpack" approach.
1 tip i've learned from my old Sergeant : make sure to start "cold" like wear a tshirt if you start when you are hiking you wont sweat so much and get les chance of heat exhousion and drink enough of water :P
Interesting video, but as far as walking three miles, we had a guy called "the leatherman" here in NY who walked and average of ten miles a day, every day, for thirty years, and lived in caves. Everything he wore was leather, and after he died they weighed his clothing, it weighed 60 pounds, dry. So keep it up, we can endure anything.
Because i live in a verry dense populated areain the netherlands,i cannot were the pack.Because some items on my pack would defintely atrackt unwanted atention.
I train with simular weigt(cement) in a different bag. This gives me the exact same work out as if wearing my B.O.B. total weigt of my b.o.b is aprox. 22pounds.
My suggestion: you're not likely to outrun a bullet even without all that shit. I carry a smaller "bare minimum" survival kit in a small satchel (could use fanny pack). Just drop all that shit your'e carrying where you stand and run like hell with your essentials. (ex. emergency bivvy, cheap poncho that converts to tarp, small survival knife, lighter, few matches, Kudos bars, small pistol etc.) That stuff can add up too but you get the idea. All that stuff isn't worth your life.
Check out "ultralight hiking and camping equipment". My bugout bag weighs less that 10 pounds and has everything I need including the backpack, a sleeping bag and a hammock/tarp shelter, fire making materials, cook set, water filtration, water bottles, extra clothes/socks/thermals, etc.
I have a BOB containing everything I need to survive indefinitely for almost a week; 1 week of food, 5 litres of water to start with 2 methods of purification, 3 ways to make fire, a tent, sleeping bag and even a small pillow. All of this only weighs 47 pounds. With 1 of my 2 chosen firearms plus ammo, it's not even 60. With both of them (a PSL weighing in at 8 and a Kel-Tec Sub2000 at 3) plus ammo for both, it's about 75. Guns account for a TON of weight, so does ammo. This isn't COD, people.
you make a good point about needing to train with the bag on. I am about 155 and in pretty good shape, not the best since I had my foot in a cast for over a month but thats a different story. to me 60 lbs isnt much but sinec weight does seem to get "heavier" over time, it is good to build up stamina with it, ever thought about doing some arm exercises? never know when you might have to start climbing to get away from a threat
Nice video man. I can only partially agree though. Yes I say it would be good to train in. But you also have to consider the fact that if someone is in a situation where they have to evade with their BOB on, then their adrenaline is going to be going crazy. Now I'm not saying that will work on its own. But it would help people push longer and harder. Nice video though.
If this is an urban survival kit, you are making yourself a target by using military equipment. You are standing out and would be target number one in a civilian crisis. The idea is excellent, training with it helps you learn what can be adjusted or eliminated due to weight. Try to find equipment that is black or dark grey. Your objective is to remain the "Grey Man". You don't want to be noticed!!
I could not run like that with such a pack, walk yes, run no; so good on you for being able to. As for training in public, he is using Canadian military gear, the avg Joe will just think he is keeping fit for the military. I am more Greyman now and find more comfort in a civy pack but I still got surplus packs in storage.
Ok, my $ .02 is this: As for having older model pack-smart whether by choice or necessity- less likely to be initially targeted. 2nd- I agree that tarp over a tent, even with/hammock & good wool blanket/high quality lite wt bag would prob weigh less. 3rd-More H2O less food-live longer. Water weighs more though-8.333 lbs per gal. 4th- I think you're doing a smart thing in getting used to your bag & its wt. while moving regularly. I also agree with butt pouches spread wt. Keep up good work!!
I work 7 days a week and dont have alot of time to train . . I combine my bug out training with my fire training . I load up my pack of 248 lbs and run 34 feet followed with a stop. drop. and roll
THANK YOU...... People are so quick to point out flaws of others. But people need to GET UP go out and use their gear. You may have the gear but have you used it? Also people need to realize they need to be HEALTHY in good shape. Most people get out of breath after walking up several flights of stairs hahahaha ok your dead. How are you going to out run or out gun some one who is trained in all areas??? YOUR NOT... TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN people it`s not only your life but the one`s you love at risk..
I'd like to go one step further. go for a ten mile hike and spend the night with just what you have in your bag it's a great way to make sure you have what you need.
Don't worry about training in public. I would go with a little less OD and camo in town when training. Tans and grays work well and look less militant. Spread the word when training that you are prepping for an Alaskan mountain hiking trip or something like that. Nobody needs to know any different.
LOL... "dont think theres much of the population who could spend long with a 80 pound bag...." ... soldiers. n ur bad looks waaaay too big n old fashioned - not that its a fasion statement mate, but some of the more modern bags with straps covering 100% of the bag (forget what the name is but the effect is seen on soldiers body armour) and is useful for things needed quickly.
you are very correct concerning the weight; imo it should be 15kg (33lbs) total max. or about 20% of your own weight (mine is 75kg/165lbs) I would'nt put it all in one big backpack though 'cause thats not easy to balance or run with nor is it discrete, it shows that you carry lots of stuff in a bug out situation, wich could make you a target. So I prefer to use beltpouches, a discrete ribz frontpack, a versipack and a small backpack while keeping most important kit stowed in that order
i actually called the local PD and got a verbal, over the phone, verification that it was legal for me to walk in my city carrying a pakc filled with camping/hiking supplies including edged tools, i.e. blades. and legally; in CA it would probably be OK to carry, unloaded, a firearm with your system.
@InVok3thaunknown Ya know, about a month ago I was listening to the LAPD scanner and heard a call about a guy wandering around some neighborhood wearing a "bulletproof vest with canisters hanging off it" About 45 minutes later the responding officers reported in that is was just a guy in a weight vest. While I still think your idea is a good one, you never can tell what will cause some crazy housewife to call the police. And I would think wearing sweats instead of an army jacket would help
good idea! As far as some saying others might target you- I doubt it, most people may bat an eye, but the average person is so consumed these days in their own affairs, few would care as to what you are doing - as long as you are not obviously armed.
You make an excellent point overlooked in most EDC / BOB videos.
One method that I use to help avoid training with the full pack in public is to use my treadmill. I train a 30 minute circuit (5 walking, 10 jogging, 5 running, 5 jogging, 5 walking) once weekly on my treadmill wearing my full pack and carrying my hunting rifle, it has helped with reducing the pack weight as well as distributing the load evenly and securely. and yes, my wife does mock me..... :)
I just say what others have mentioned already try to look less Military.
Oh and to everyone...look on the bright side all the fatties with "B.O.B's" will make the lives of the prepared one's easier....fatty will be a walking health/ammo/gear pack,,,kinda like in video games and such.
the best bet if you didnt witness the shit hitting the fan is to stay put at home (if you are smart and stocked supplies ahead of time) defend your position and when resources are low or depleted then move on to outland survival. when shit hits the fan everyone is going to get out of dodge and start camping in the wilderness. i would not be surprised to see the outland areas full of bodies after a few months. god bless and good luck fellow survivors
good video sir. the only thing i would recommend is to use that pack after 3 months or before shit really hits the fan. if you wear that pack within the shtf and 3 months then your risk for panic civilians swarming is higher. your main concern is stealth and evasion. wasting your resources in defending yourself when you could have avoided it can overload a system. i totally like your bag and set up just concerned that "none preparers" would swarm you for your resources.
Training out in public like that will get you noticed and everyone will know what you can do. They will know how to prepare for you. Some place where there isn't so many eyes might be a better option. Good job though.
I agree with you, but I'm still going to keep my pack at about thirty pounds. I've found that with that much gear, I can cover all the NEEDS of survival, but then also have some luxury items, and items to build a permanent shelter with.
Tacmarksman 1 week ago
I think your being a pussy, I had 150lbs on my back walking through iraq in 130 degree weather for hours and sometimes days. 40, 60, or 80lbs wont be an issue. your just making an excuse for being an out of shape puss. Maybe you should think about getting yourself into shape so that you can evade someone, Ill tell you know, If I was coming after you you would not make it 10 feet before I killed you. You need to unfuck yourself fast
mattc1683 1 week ago
I took my full BOB and hiked 24 miles in 90 degree weather last summer at a state park. Broke in myself and my bag. Was a good learning experience and helped me fine tune my gear and my mind. At a drop of a hat I can grab my bag and walk out the door without looking back or thinking twice about being prepare. Good peace of mind.
swdrgn 4 weeks ago
This video has got me rethinking my bag. You make a very valid point. My bag is heavy, and my physical condition will need to be improved. There will be one more foolish pack runner out there starting this weekend. Thanks.
SirThunderPants 1 month ago
i am now subbing because you did this, i do stuff relevant to this and i respect and understand the commitment it takes to go out and do this. good job
andddrewsays 1 month ago
I was in the military for 5 years and I completely agree with your video. When i was in we marched around 20 kilometers with about 95 pounds of gear. I would just like to say that being trained in survival is the best tool anyone has in preparing to "bug out". You can have all the gear in the world in your bag but it wont mean anything without the proper knowledge. I agree with the video and for all the read the comment and are preparing a "bug out bag". Read and do research to suit your needs.
samb985 1 month ago
You are very correct. You will have to evade because there will be 200 million some odd people that never did any preparations or training running around with sticks and guns trying to steal from people like you and me that did prepare. If you really want to put your bug out bag to the test then actually bug out with it one weekend. Leave Friday night after work walking as fast and as far as you can by Sunday after noon. This will truly put your bag to the test exposing possible problems Gluck
digmatology 2 months ago
Being obese at 380 pounds, I once walked 1-1/2 miles uphill, gaining 120 feet in elevation, stopping frequently. Reaching the hill top, I continued 2-miles to a restaurant, then after lunch, I finished a 7-mile walk, taking 7-hours. So, what I did was equal to a man weighing 150 pounds, wearing a 230 pound load. You can factor your weight in there, add 230 pounds, and test yourself.
borderraven 2 months ago
@borderraven While it's good that you're capable of moving that way...evenly distributed body mass is not the same as one large and out of proportion mass on your back. Your body weight, while high, is distributed around your entire body, from your feet to your head. Further, you move it every time you move...and you've built up the muscle mass to move that volume of weight around. Most people who carry large bags do not take them every where they go, every step, like you do.
drackar 2 months ago
waz that seriosly 80 pounds, holy crap man, thats big lap
GeneralKasse 2 months ago
You crazy survivalist nuts make me laugh my arse off. Ain't never gonna happen. Stop reading revelations!
waysgoose 2 months ago
@waysgoose um, it's actually "Revelation" not revelations, and there is every possibility of something happening that requires a BUG OUT, and it has happened. Natural disasters are a perfect example. To each their own, but why knock someone for being prepared?
TruckerWarren 1 month ago
them BOB vids were never meant for ACTUAL training, man! Stop it right now, getting rediculous...
BigRooster747 2 months ago
Makes me think a small motorized bicycle would help a LOT. More stamina for the trek ahead. May sound stupid, but every mile...is still a mile... ~Kev~
unclearless 2 months ago
i dont know why so many ppl pack bullshit into their bags. brush up on basic survival skills, like what plants are edible, water sources fire starting techniques.
TrinityRewind 2 months ago
I keep imagining highways clogged with abandoned vehicles after whatever apocalyptic event transpires. Although redundant preparedness is certainly the way to go, I'm definitely getting saddle bags for my bike...
drumswithfist 2 months ago
Now you really are joking? Who is this guy? Are you for real.... For those in the know, you will be joining me in a good laugh.. especially at the rest of his video's!
Bored197272 2 months ago
Good job,
pking101 2 months ago
do you perhaps live in hamilton ontario??
PADSCALE 2 months ago
good video, makes sense that you want to travel light ,but... you should have a BOB for your vehicle that includes the backpack BOB ,that way your first mode of transport is your vehicle until you run out of road or stuck in traffic , or it breaks down , then i would switch to bicycles that would be carried on the back of the vehicle ,this is where you change your BOB to fit the bicycles and then if all else fails you go it on foot again changing your BOB to fit the situation each time .
mightywez1 3 months ago
[it would mainly be people trained by the military
gpensky 3 months ago
pack heavy ditch what you dont need based on the situation as soon as you can. for example a large riot vs a natural disaster. i understand the need for moblity but id rather throw some supplies out of my bag rather than not have them packed in the first place
dorringtonchancvelew 3 months ago
Excellent idea.
I would have less, more compact, and a more agile load - even if meant some sacrifices in choices of items taken, but that's just me.
Overall, I'd say you have done more than most here. Congrats. Thanks for encouraging what you are here.
aamguy 3 months ago
Good video for a canadian jk good job
2012icon 3 months ago
need a handgun and a short barrelled pump shotgun. if everything went to shit, you need to be armed to defend yourself.
calvinhobbescinnamon 3 months ago
If you see my video you will surprised about how light it is. it is 20 pounds. and i climbed all over my town with it. i'm an urban explorer and i have a question. how many flash lights do you carry?
bbrown24bcb 3 months ago
this is encouraging what you do sir.but by principle-it is great if a person has only minimum weight on him.but it is not necessary a no go for survival to have a 50lbs on the back carrying it long range.if a person believes it's more important to carry 50lbs he has to train accordingly.thats all.one falls in the army or navy bracket-or one goes for the marines P.T. and then is able to carry a full load long range.
combattaskforce 3 months ago
Well Done!
I'm 58 Years Old and I train at my local HS pay field. I have early stage Rhumatoid arthritis and my pack is the heavy side of 50 pounds. While I'm not yet ancient, I'm getting old enough where I need to confirm that I am up to the challenge before attempting a back country solo trek. I do a fast pace with trekking poles for equivalant of 2 miles. Your use of a camera on a pic-stik actually contributed to your fatigue as your left arm was fighting against natural momentum.
ianrsigel 4 months ago
20 lb Body Glove vest at Walmart: $40. I run with that on. You can take out as many of the 1 lb individual bean bags as you want as you ramp up. I you want to really ramp it up you can get a ruck and practice humping. I would not advise running with a ruck. This can cause stress fractures or cause you to roll an ankle or worse. Talk to any infantryman (which I am not by the way). Humping will get you in shape in a way that is unmatched. You could also put on an old flak. Great excercise!
Txman1996 4 months ago
@Txman1996 The Distribution of weight and subsequent demand on corresponding muscle groups will not be the same with your method. The only proper way to train is as close to 'real world' scenario as possible. That means load the pack exactly as you would use it and hike in adverse conditions and uneven surfaces.
ianrsigel 4 months ago
@ianrsigel I don't disagree with what you are saying. However, you go try running with a pack and you will regret it. Do you have any experience humping with a pack, flak, or rifle? Like I said, get in touch with a grunt and they will help you. I am not one, but have done training with this (humps, endurance training). People will roll ankles, go down for heat casualties, get stress fractures, or go down for lack of electrolytes.
Txman1996 4 months ago
@Txman1996 My lottery number was 41...yes on all counts. First to clarify, I DO NOT suggest running with a full pack for the very reasons you cited.. 2nd, I do reccommend a brisk training pace/walk for the reasons I mentioned. However, for someone like myself, it is most important as my joints become weaker every month and I must be certain of my limitations. I do wear athletic knee braces but they rub the back of my knees raw as I perspire.
Semper Fidelis Brother. Be Well
ianrsigel 4 months ago
@ianrsigel S/F. Very Well Stated.
Txman1996 4 months ago
@ianrsigel I guess when I think about bugging out sometimes I get caught up with myself when I see this and think back to a hump when you see the enemy and are in a MTC Movement to Contact phase. In that phase you drop the pack and run with the rifle. I guess you could practice with a light weight pack, but it better be at or below 30 lbs. Think about what it will be like to run with a rifle. "Bugging out" to me means: pack, rifle, ammo, and water. Bugging out doesn't mean I will be...
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@ianrsigel just running away. It will mean differnt things to different people. If you are in an urban setting, maybe you throw your pack on and move out the building and toward a certain rally point. I guess it could have many menaings. I want to prepare for the worst.
Txman1996 4 months ago
What are u running from, shoot'em in the face!
MrVoxC 4 months ago
Gangster. Survivor. I'll see you out there brother
Augz1776 4 months ago
WARNING!!!! do NOT train with a pack weighing over 30lbs you WILL blow out joints, cartilage, and possibly fracture bones. Take it from a Marine, train light, but push yourself. You will work out the same muscles and they will not have to strain as much. Doin what this guy does is a great way to be featured on a advil commercial for your arthritus in your early thirtys. Y'all trackin?
slippinslidewayz 4 months ago
@slippinslidewayz Well stated.
Txman1996 4 months ago
5 laps around a soccer field is 1.25 miles. and looking at your shadow your barely running at the end. you expect people to run for half an hour with their packs. running for 30 can take you over 3 miles. is there a average person who can run 1.5 miles without a pack? these bug out bags are rediculously over weight.
Monty72111 4 months ago
@Monty72111 I don't expect people to do anything.
envirosponsible 4 months ago 6
I agree with you completely on this. In fact, my "bug out bag" is a day pack that's just big enough for essential tools, a little food, a change of clothes, and a blanket strapped over the top. To my mind, if I need to 'bug out", I'd rather not have two feet of backpack and sixty pounds on my back, getting in the way of mobility....if you can't do a twenty five mile day in a pack, your not packing right, or your not in condition to bug out safely at all.
drackar 4 months ago
@drackar Well said.
envirosponsible 4 months ago
And, yeah ... pre-placed caches, no more than 20 miles apart, seems like a great idea. ... It *would* be nice to have a flush kindle (e-ink), when I finally get to an A/O but the weight is not justified. Maybe pre-place a jug of survival food tabs and a few MainStay bars ... some Frontier mini-filters ... in a geo-cached ammo box ... 20 miles up, on my main route ... makes a good bit of sense. A Browning 800-Mag pellet pistol (4Lbs), etc. ... Stuff I would not carry but would help greatly.
phrankus2009 4 months ago
Totally ! WEIGHT (*THE* primary limiting factor ! ) ... I am 52 yo and my knees are fairly shot ... My pack (total wet carry) MUST come in under ~60Lbs and that is even "way heavy". Ten pounds of that is water+bladders ... another 6lbs just for the pack ... A full suite of electronics (+ xtra batts + Solar rechrg) is starting to look ridiculous ... A center-fire rifle or pistol (+ ammo) is out of the question.
... I paid alot for all my crap ... Now? ... Shedding it, pound-by-pound !
RIGHT!
phrankus2009 4 months ago
I like this video a lot- but remember, the military says never run with a pack that ways more than 40 pounds- it can hurt your back- great vid :)
colorinthemoon 4 months ago
Good job! Keep it up buddy
kjumper1 5 months ago
everyone has army color stuff, you need to consider if you do or don't want to look like you are in the a soldier or not, It could help you or you could be a target for some pissed off people under martial law situation.
spicecrop 5 months ago
Great point, I take people here in AZ out on primitive skill trip all the time. At the trail head every time several people show up with a ton of crap and we end up stashing over half their stuff to be collected on the way back. My pack weighs about 25 pound included in that is a gallon of water! 99% are armchair survivalist with a bunch of new gear and no dirt time, thank God! I am counting on them for resupply, LOL!
Dr762x39 5 months ago
@Dr762x39 LOL I love your logic- haha- portable resupply stations!!! :)
colorinthemoon 4 months ago
great point! personally i keep my bag around 20 lbs being army i know how much of a pain a 12 mile ruck is with 50 to 80lbs of gear and i sure as hell wouldnt want to be bugging out having to carry that great vid great points
82WOLFPAK 5 months ago
While I agree with your attitude and applaud your efforts. I have to point out that is the reason for a web belt/LBE and the reason the newer packs have quick release shoulder straps...this allows you to dump the pack and still have what you need to survive/fight. Plus it allows you to be more mobile once the pack is dropped. The reality is you will not outrun anyone without a pack with even with a 20lb pack . On a positive note, getting in shape is always a plus in survival.
shawnlee28 5 months ago
1. i will say bravo on you at least walking with a back pack , but 80 lbs isnt nothing ..we oregon militia train every other day and do at least 5 to 20 miles it depends on our commanders ..now , as far as you bugging out...WHAT WILL YOU DO DURING A NBC;s , do you have a mop suit? how bout body armor? how bout ur weapons and ammo , your med kit's?? what im saying is we patriots thinking bugging out will get you killed , in order to survive , HAVE A FALLOUT SHELTER!
DOCSAFETUBE 6 months ago
my BOB is currently in the process of being put togetether
my current setup is a load bearing harness with a few molle pouches with the
survival essentials and a camelbak mule with some food and bigger essentials
like filter and poncho
bugoutbag2012 6 months ago
Lol my bug out bag is only 25 pounds... Its got EVERYTHING needed in it.
ellzaerage 6 months ago
I agree. odds are if your bugging out you most likely evading something or someone. My suggestion is to take your bugout bag on an extended hiing/camping trip. it will help you not only learn where everything is but better your skills in using the things in your bag. you'll also be able to figure out what you need or don't need and/or know if you can pack comfort items. every summer i pick through and update and repack my BOB and then go on a camping trip with it.
zachmaster2000 7 months ago
All My Friends always Pack To Thrive , Excpet Me And My One Other Best Friend , We Do As You Do , We Pack To Survive , My BOB Is approx. 34.5 pounds and i run with it , my friends is 40 exactly , and he rus with it at the same pace , we both train like this constantly , and chalenge ourselves to build camp and survive off what we have for a day or Two , Alone.
survivalofthekit 7 months ago
Bravo Sir! Good to see somone getting off thier ass, an AK does you no good if you cant carry it down the block.
Faeleigh1 7 months ago
if you want a good challange load up and do a 12 mile. time doesn't matter so much. no disrespect to anybody. just thought i'd chime in with my $0.02 worth....... :D
johndancel 7 months ago
The concept is to have a 2 stage bag. 1 much like the one you have, ready to be used in a "tactical" sense and then another to carry your original bag as well as comfort items, ammo, etc. The 2nd bag is just things that are "nice" to have but when it comes time to run you just leave them behind.
With that said, I can't see myself hiking 13 miles a day with a 80lb pack period...Not sure what the idea behind that is. My overloaded self is only comfortable with around 50lbs.
dgateusil 7 months ago
And p.s. I've found that a really good pack for this type of short term, E&E, urban bugging out is the USMC ILBE Corpsman Assault Pack.
It sits high off your butt, and the load balance is kept pretty squarely against your body.
UrbanSurvivalTools 7 months ago
Love it. NO replacement for actually testing something! I believe in doing a little bit of "Jason Bourne" testing with your pack to simulate some E&E. Jump a fence, climb a tree, army crawl, dead run.
It's an inspiration for me to find a like mind--Thanks!
UrbanSurvivalTools 7 months ago
I trained for the first time 5 months ago with my b.o.b, it was a 12 mile fast walk in light snow, i found that my pack weight was ok, but i walked a mile on a sidewalk that was sloping, so i kept coming down heavier on one side, plus with the added weight of the pack it was tough on my ankle. When I got back onto flat ground it felt a lot better, but learned i need better boots, wore sneakers that day, bad idea.
SensibleStan 8 months ago
I dont get this bug-out thing whats it for? is it for some type of apocalypse?
battlebob 8 months ago
Your B.O.B should be 15% of your body weight
ZacksMinecraft 8 months ago
my BOB is simple,i dont have one.i carry 9 x 30 round mags for my SIG552 on my vest and 1 loaded.ive also got a camel pack,knife and first aid pouch.everything else i need is in my OT810 lol
TheStgmp44 8 months ago
@TheStgmp44
Thats not a bag silly
XDarkBlue08 7 months ago
You give very good suggestions and tell it like it is. I've been the Marine Corps for about 5 1/2 years, I can carry a 150 ibs pack and over with no problems. But I hear too many people that are poorly fit telling me that I need more. My advice. Carry only what you can to the essentials. Otherwise, exercise your body, not just for longer stamina and endurance, but to carry the huge load
man11withaplan 8 months ago
I'm quoting from a much smarter person than myself, but ultimately the one thing that has the most value in a survival situation and weighs the least is knowledge. BOBs here and BOBs there, what is the absolute LEAST that a BOB could be with the right knowledge? A good knife, a tarp, 30ft of paracord and a fire-steel? One day, somehow, any of us could be caught out and maybe developing the most minimal kit with the best knowledge is a better goal?
Original50 8 months ago 3
thats why my wife and I share the load over 2 bags
jackclark1981 8 months ago
The worst thing about surviving in a SHTF situation, is that you can buy all the gear you want. But in the end you are more likely to die by a trigger happy American, hiding in the bushes with a hunting rifle.
Eso1 8 months ago
I've been assembling my BOB and agree - weight is critical. I've been training with my bag and tend to walk around my house when home alone - it helps keep my back muscles trained.
Regularly attending the gym and keeping the cardio up is also great. Cheers from Manitoba.
mostlymichaelcanada 8 months ago
I've been assembling my BOB and agree - weight is critical. I've been training with my bag and tend to walk around my house when home alone - it helps keep my back muscles trained.
mostlymichaelcanada 8 months ago
Do some research onto backpacking, get gear, go on a 3-5 mile hike to a high mountain lake for 3-5 days and you will have a lot better idea of what is needed and what is possible to carry. Plus it is one of the most fun things I have done.
1s1t1e1v1e1 9 months ago
Is this an Alice Pack?
SchiHoschi 9 months ago
Nice to see you actually training with your kit! You make a good point right from the start about people having too much weight. Everyone needs to remember that they are NOT Navy SEALs or SAS operators who do have to carry 130 or so pounds of gear sometimes and for extended periods of time. Maybe up to and including a month.
tvercetti1 10 months ago
Are you a Canadian? I think I see a lot of Canadian kit there. excluding the hat of course.
PointRecce 10 months ago 2
Sorry to ask , but why do you need a "Bug.out.bag"?
LundbyFizz 10 months ago
@LundbyFizz emergecies like a hurricane,zombies,apocalypse...
hbksboy1 10 months ago
@hbksboy1 I understand the hurricane thing but seriously.. Zombies?perhaps played too many videogames?
LundbyFizz 10 months ago
@LundbyFizz yeah i was joking
hbksboy1 10 months ago
@hbksboy1 good
LundbyFizz 10 months ago
I like the idea... But I saw another guy on YouTube that just put sand in his bag and left the gear at home... You also could put water like the military.
Weight is the primary reason that my bug out weapon is a Ruger MK III .22 pistol I can carry a few hundred rounds for very little weight. Trust me, 22 is plenty lethal to humans, believe it or not. My backup to the 22 would be my double barrel 12ga shotgun for taking down large game (assholes included)...
wb5mgr 10 months ago
What kind of jacket are you wearing? What kind of knife do you carry? What do you carry in the front 2 packs.
wwood14 10 months ago
people keep saying 'bugging out', and i gotta say: bug out to WHERE?
city folks often don't have family/friends in the sticks. this is fact. don't be a person of color (without contacts) trying to bug out to the country. ain't gonna happen.
thing is, yeah, its nice to have a bug out bag, and one SHOULD be in shape (as enviro emphasises).
but instead of 'bugging out', if the stuff really hits the fan, i'll hunker down with family and friends, until i HAVE to bug out to another city.
neoconsnightmare3 10 months ago
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Rossco139 10 months ago
What do people think when they see you running around at the community field like that? Otherwise, I understand the idea behind the training....Your physical condition could easily be more important than what you have in your bag!
farmermarley 11 months ago
@RedEarth530 i think your wigging out man...relax...red alert is over
jeret001 11 months ago
nice man hahaha
clogart 11 months ago
I have hiked hundreds and hundreds of miles. Only then will people understand about taking only what is necessary. I now have a family of five and each of us has thier own bag. water, food, fire, and clothing are redundant between all. No pack weighs more than 20 pounds including water and food. even a 30 pound pack feels like the straps will be cutting through your shoulders after a few hours. good video.
xs500brucker 11 months ago
Great video. I actually had to redo my BOB because it was too heavy, since then I have cut out items and kept only things needed ro survive! It's alot much lighter when your packing in a survival mode vs. packing like a vacation or trip mode lol
zk360 11 months ago
Great video and great idea, remember you can only move as fast as your wife. Can't leave her behind.
crazyfool8839 11 months ago
I'd suggest getting a weight-vest for that kind of training. You should get almost the same results, yet stay way less noticeable than running around with all your gear strapped on.
maosw 11 months ago
in a survival situation isn't running a BAD idea? if a situation calls for you to need to book it the eff out of there wouldn't even a 20lb bag be too much? i mean if im running for my life im not going to want anything slowing me down.
TheGorillatavern 11 months ago
ZOMBIES!!!
BillionDollarZombie 11 months ago
Your lucky to be able to do that . unfortunately i cannot , i destroyed my ACL and knee cart. about 6 years ago and it didnt heal right so i get stuck having to walk lol.
Kc893s 11 months ago
@Kc893s That's cool, walk stealthily and with both eyes open.
liabatud67 11 months ago
what are you running from?
jeret001 11 months ago
Everyone has to have their own plan....depends upon location, family ability, etc. The important thing is to do whatever you're going to do quickly and have food and shelter planned...LOVE, COURAGE
lonestarskywatcher 11 months ago
GOOD JOB I DO THIS THREE TIMES A WEEK
MyMaya1980 11 months ago
Running is a bitch and 99% of normal people wouldnt run longer than 1 of your laps. Tops. And why would they? :-). Backpacks are for walking and if you really have to run, then you should consider dropping the bag to run to safety. Possible return for the bag later.
pkbjorn35 11 months ago
Dude, you're funny for wearing that hat while running those five laps. But great work though.
NoorShazreen 11 months ago
Be careful in the public eye. Also think about when you do bug out that you don't look like a survivalist, because you will become a target for the nonsurvivalist. you want to fit in. Also folks may mistake you for military, who knows what's caused a bug out, but folks might be upset with government, ie the military.
survivaleveryday 1 year ago
Be careful in the public eye. Also think about when you do bug out that you don't look like a survivalist, because you will become a target for the nonsurvivalist. you want to fit in.
survivaleveryday 1 year ago
Good on you for posting this. Your right to test out your load system as much a is practical. I think your wearing your pack too high like a civilian hiker: try taking it lower and putting more wieght on the hips like military LBE's do. In fact the more you take from hunting and military pratices the better I think. Also look at what forest firefighters are using too: 15-20 litre lumbar pack systems which are far more agile than the civvy "tall and narrow backpack" approach.
OmteZero 1 year ago
I'm 47, and overweight by about 30 pounds. That shit would kill me.
goldenscales 1 year ago
i been in the military that shit is easy
halfhawk22 1 year ago
1 tip i've learned from my old Sergeant : make sure to start "cold" like wear a tshirt if you start when you are hiking you wont sweat so much and get les chance of heat exhousion and drink enough of water :P
DoorGunner5 1 year ago
why are u training with it?
trufiend138 1 year ago
hahaha, have you ever read th ezombie survival guide? Im pretty sure that it seems like something you would like,
max465t 1 year ago
What are the shoes your wearing and where did u get your backpack? i love it
gumdokim 1 year ago
My backpack is like 60 pounds.....
SongSubscribers 1 year ago
Interesting video, but as far as walking three miles, we had a guy called "the leatherman" here in NY who walked and average of ten miles a day, every day, for thirty years, and lived in caves. Everything he wore was leather, and after he died they weighed his clothing, it weighed 60 pounds, dry. So keep it up, we can endure anything.
johnmonk66 1 year ago
Because i live in a verry dense populated areain the netherlands,i cannot were the pack.Because some items on my pack would defintely atrackt unwanted atention.
I train with simular weigt(cement) in a different bag. This gives me the exact same work out as if wearing my B.O.B. total weigt of my b.o.b is aprox. 22pounds.
TheOfficialruben 1 year ago
My suggestion: you're not likely to outrun a bullet even without all that shit. I carry a smaller "bare minimum" survival kit in a small satchel (could use fanny pack). Just drop all that shit your'e carrying where you stand and run like hell with your essentials. (ex. emergency bivvy, cheap poncho that converts to tarp, small survival knife, lighter, few matches, Kudos bars, small pistol etc.) That stuff can add up too but you get the idea. All that stuff isn't worth your life.
LordRockfish 1 year ago
Some Thing?
Bobster986 1 year ago
Check out "ultralight hiking and camping equipment". My bugout bag weighs less that 10 pounds and has everything I need including the backpack, a sleeping bag and a hammock/tarp shelter, fire making materials, cook set, water filtration, water bottles, extra clothes/socks/thermals, etc.
NewChristianSoldiers 1 year ago
dude my football gear weighs 50 pounds and my coach runns are asses 2 hell and back then around the field a couple more times
godman5 1 year ago
this guy is right. See my video on "levels of response" also for more on reality-check.._TadRapidly.
TadRapidly 1 year ago
I have a BOB containing everything I need to survive indefinitely for almost a week; 1 week of food, 5 litres of water to start with 2 methods of purification, 3 ways to make fire, a tent, sleeping bag and even a small pillow. All of this only weighs 47 pounds. With 1 of my 2 chosen firearms plus ammo, it's not even 60. With both of them (a PSL weighing in at 8 and a Kel-Tec Sub2000 at 3) plus ammo for both, it's about 75. Guns account for a TON of weight, so does ammo. This isn't COD, people.
3L3C7R0N0 1 year ago
@3L3C7R0N0
OK YOU TAKE A PILLOW WITH YOU? WOOSY
surfnfx 1 year ago
good job !
Mr308Winchest 1 year ago
Bud, what is the weight of the system you're carrying in this video?
OldManGlitch 1 year ago
you make a good point about needing to train with the bag on. I am about 155 and in pretty good shape, not the best since I had my foot in a cast for over a month but thats a different story. to me 60 lbs isnt much but sinec weight does seem to get "heavier" over time, it is good to build up stamina with it, ever thought about doing some arm exercises? never know when you might have to start climbing to get away from a threat
AnubisMeso 1 year ago
so uh how long does 5 laps around that take you?
themythic5th 1 year ago
Nice video man. I can only partially agree though. Yes I say it would be good to train in. But you also have to consider the fact that if someone is in a situation where they have to evade with their BOB on, then their adrenaline is going to be going crazy. Now I'm not saying that will work on its own. But it would help people push longer and harder. Nice video though.
bjingram 1 year ago
i'm 15 and 5 foot 5 and i can run with a 50 pound training pack for 15 minutes and walk for 2 hours
crazycrackergabe 1 year ago
I tried this,it sucked,and opened my eyes.But now I know my limits and that the more I train the easier it gets
MrMERCER10 1 year ago
If this is an urban survival kit, you are making yourself a target by using military equipment. You are standing out and would be target number one in a civilian crisis. The idea is excellent, training with it helps you learn what can be adjusted or eliminated due to weight. Try to find equipment that is black or dark grey. Your objective is to remain the "Grey Man". You don't want to be noticed!!
TheOutdoorman40 1 year ago
I could not run like that with such a pack, walk yes, run no; so good on you for being able to. As for training in public, he is using Canadian military gear, the avg Joe will just think he is keeping fit for the military. I am more Greyman now and find more comfort in a civy pack but I still got surplus packs in storage.
Yoshin9 1 year ago
Ok, my $ .02 is this: As for having older model pack-smart whether by choice or necessity- less likely to be initially targeted. 2nd- I agree that tarp over a tent, even with/hammock & good wool blanket/high quality lite wt bag would prob weigh less. 3rd-More H2O less food-live longer. Water weighs more though-8.333 lbs per gal. 4th- I think you're doing a smart thing in getting used to your bag & its wt. while moving regularly. I also agree with butt pouches spread wt. Keep up good work!!
KorumEmrys 1 year ago
I work 7 days a week and dont have alot of time to train . . I combine my bug out training with my fire training . I load up my pack of 248 lbs and run 34 feet followed with a stop. drop. and roll
scunknuckles 1 year ago
ZOMBIEEES
DragOzze 1 year ago
@DragOzze MORONNNNNN!
tomperanteau 1 year ago
trick is to make the pack NOT LOOK MILITARY.... painting "target" on your back.
molemanlivesagain 1 year ago
THANK YOU...... People are so quick to point out flaws of others. But people need to GET UP go out and use their gear. You may have the gear but have you used it? Also people need to realize they need to be HEALTHY in good shape. Most people get out of breath after walking up several flights of stairs hahahaha ok your dead. How are you going to out run or out gun some one who is trained in all areas??? YOUR NOT... TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN people it`s not only your life but the one`s you love at risk..
HDVids4free 1 year ago
I wear my bug out bag on a tredmill, I don't want to be stopped by police and have to explain what I'm doing
romeodelta1178 1 year ago
I wish u luck when the time will come ...
acadennis 1 year ago
I'd like to go one step further. go for a ten mile hike and spend the night with just what you have in your bag it's a great way to make sure you have what you need.
811cablemaster 1 year ago
Boonie Hat says you where a marine?.... Where you a U.S. marine ? if not ...find a new hat !
Hardazzdog 1 year ago
a little bit to military for bug out, and I do hope the public doesnt think your a nutt, although good point and good job
goat20101 1 year ago
Fuck the tent, carry a tarp. My bag weighs only 8-10 pounds. It truly has every thing inside it I need to survive.
TheSingingDemon 1 year ago
Don't worry about training in public. I would go with a little less OD and camo in town when training. Tans and grays work well and look less militant. Spread the word when training that you are prepping for an Alaskan mountain hiking trip or something like that. Nobody needs to know any different.
ericmattinen 1 year ago
LOL... "dont think theres much of the population who could spend long with a 80 pound bag...." ... soldiers. n ur bad looks waaaay too big n old fashioned - not that its a fasion statement mate, but some of the more modern bags with straps covering 100% of the bag (forget what the name is but the effect is seen on soldiers body armour) and is useful for things needed quickly.
Fresh120109 1 year ago
impressive, most impressive, I am officailly inspired.
reefcut 1 year ago
You are right! People should try running with their bags and see what they can do to lighten it.
SirViving 1 year ago
you are very correct concerning the weight; imo it should be 15kg (33lbs) total max. or about 20% of your own weight (mine is 75kg/165lbs) I would'nt put it all in one big backpack though 'cause thats not easy to balance or run with nor is it discrete, it shows that you carry lots of stuff in a bug out situation, wich could make you a target. So I prefer to use beltpouches, a discrete ribz frontpack, a versipack and a small backpack while keeping most important kit stowed in that order
masterdurchgriff 1 year ago
i actually called the local PD and got a verbal, over the phone, verification that it was legal for me to walk in my city carrying a pakc filled with camping/hiking supplies including edged tools, i.e. blades. and legally; in CA it would probably be OK to carry, unloaded, a firearm with your system.
chabochi1 1 year ago
i got a way 2 kinda train urself without showing everyone what u got going on,
idk how well it wil lwork
but i will be doing it,
maybe it will help u if u train with it?
there is workout vest, weights 20 40 80.
wearing them is kinda like getting use 2 carrying more weight?
InVok3thaunknown 1 year ago
@InVok3thaunknown the balance would not be the same as running with a bag though. but it's a very good alternative.
killerinthehounds 1 year ago
@killerinthehounds
thatz true,
i have 2 get a bag,
and ALL the gear,
im trying to get the money,
i aint blessed wid much money
but have been saving up and hopeing i get the stuff i need b4 shit happenz,
and from how much i work 2 prepare i really aint got what i need b/c i kept wasteing money not even thinking about it til awhile ago,
InVok3thaunknown 1 year ago
@InVok3thaunknown Ya know, about a month ago I was listening to the LAPD scanner and heard a call about a guy wandering around some neighborhood wearing a "bulletproof vest with canisters hanging off it" About 45 minutes later the responding officers reported in that is was just a guy in a weight vest. While I still think your idea is a good one, you never can tell what will cause some crazy housewife to call the police. And I would think wearing sweats instead of an army jacket would help
ledpoizn 1 year ago
@ledpoizn
HAHA,
your right, now days tho its crazy what people do and even crazyer what you can get in troble 4.
but around this town, no joke.
call the cops about a man with a gun.
they are here within 2 hours.
call about someone outside, they come within 6 hours.
i have never once had them anywhere needed untill everything is handled.
sounds like a lie, but trust me, you can do alot here and leave b4 you get seen,
but when u do the cops dont give breaks they like 2 treat u like scum
InVok3thaunknown 1 year ago
good idea! As far as some saying others might target you- I doubt it, most people may bat an eye, but the average person is so consumed these days in their own affairs, few would care as to what you are doing - as long as you are not obviously armed.
stone4bread 1 year ago
You make an excellent point overlooked in most EDC / BOB videos.
One method that I use to help avoid training with the full pack in public is to use my treadmill. I train a 30 minute circuit (5 walking, 10 jogging, 5 running, 5 jogging, 5 walking) once weekly on my treadmill wearing my full pack and carrying my hunting rifle, it has helped with reducing the pack weight as well as distributing the load evenly and securely. and yes, my wife does mock me..... :)
30362 1 year ago
this Video was GENIUS ! 95 % OF people have never been outside with their bags on
PrimetheOfficial 1 year ago
Not bad. But you may want to go for something less military looking in style. The idea is to blend in and not get noticed.
kra1813 1 year ago
Wow man. Right on. That must have been hard as hell when you first started doing it.
MrSurviveAll 1 year ago
Now thats a solid workout!!Brother awesome!!
ppspsd 1 year ago
Bravo...
I just say what others have mentioned already try to look less Military.
Oh and to everyone...look on the bright side all the fatties with "B.O.B's" will make the lives of the prepared one's easier....fatty will be a walking health/ammo/gear pack,,,kinda like in video games and such.
CantaGalo86 1 year ago
In my opinion, a bug out bag shouldn't have more than 20 pounds of gear. Is that too little?
olternaut 1 year ago
the best bet if you didnt witness the shit hitting the fan is to stay put at home (if you are smart and stocked supplies ahead of time) defend your position and when resources are low or depleted then move on to outland survival. when shit hits the fan everyone is going to get out of dodge and start camping in the wilderness. i would not be surprised to see the outland areas full of bodies after a few months. god bless and good luck fellow survivors
quickshotspartan 1 year ago
good video sir. the only thing i would recommend is to use that pack after 3 months or before shit really hits the fan. if you wear that pack within the shtf and 3 months then your risk for panic civilians swarming is higher. your main concern is stealth and evasion. wasting your resources in defending yourself when you could have avoided it can overload a system. i totally like your bag and set up just concerned that "none preparers" would swarm you for your resources.
quickshotspartan 1 year ago
reading an old army feild manual, it said ur complete kit, ruck, lbe together should weigh at most a 3rd of ur body weight,
ScarTownJunkie 1 year ago
breath in youre nose and out youre mouth to keep from panting
TheWallie2k 1 year ago
Great job with the challenge vid. I am going to try mine
MrM2hb 1 year ago
Training out in public like that will get you noticed and everyone will know what you can do. They will know how to prepare for you. Some place where there isn't so many eyes might be a better option. Good job though.
doug47130 1 year ago 10