Phil Hellmuth: 1989 WSOP - Final Table Part 2 of 4

[Rodario10]

The voice of Helmuth didnt change in all the years, i hat his voice

[Porian79]

Honey, I called two all in's with A10... I can't even spell poker... I'm an idiot from Wisconsin...

[ihaveguts]

@Porian79 to think that this is what made the fortune of this donk, its appalling... what a donk call

[iheartsamsam]

props to the commentor " johnny chan the two time defending champ thanks for stopping by"" LMAO doesnt get any better than that kids

[TheInadequacy]

Commentator says Johnny will win with any card higher than a ten. Phill could still win with a King, hehe. :)

[moona178]

@TheInadequacy i know, its like he was thinking about Hi/Lo or something.

[ihaveguts]

@TheInadequacy true, i noticed that too

[foolioperez]

Chan was sick back to back then headsup at the final table the next year!!

[boolz]

he seems so nice. when did he turn into a complete dick. 97?

[luxinqikkk]

Hellmuth only says: FUCK.. OH SHIT... YOU ARE A IDIOT... FUCK YOU...

[jimmychauv]

Johnny Chan was one hand away from a three-peat. What a beast!

[BurnYourCash]

over the top with 22 what a donk! how'd he even make it that far?

[jayisthebest88]

all these string bets and "call and raise" lingo is tilting me

[MrLothario2000]

@jayisthebest88 they weren't string bets. the players said raise you just can't hear the audio that well. T

[Graham6762]

Yeah those sites are rigged that is why they are shutting them down.

[johnsmith7490]

Man these rigged sites should be banned!!

[DevinDerga]

Nice Overcall with A10. Never hear him talk about how that suckout helped him win the main event.

[kluxxxarn]

imagen if the A hit. "He called all in with A7 honey!"

[StreetsOfSonic]

@kluxxxarn

LOL.

[redhidus]

how is that johny speak much fluent english back then?? :P

[PonasMiagis]

@redhidus how is that i saw this comment in other part of this??

[AugiTheGreat1]

i wanna go back in time and play ... the tables used to be so soft if greenstein the knit jew got rich anybody coulda done it

[luismendezs]

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[AugiTheGreat1]

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[luismendezs]

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[AugiTheGreat1]

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[luismendezs]

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[eliteballerz25]

if a J comes..Makes Phil a str8 & K make him a boat....only a Q,10, or A saves Johnny

[Zao911]

@eliteballerz25 a J makes chan a straight too genious

[johnsmith7490]

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[justinharker]

there couldnt have anymore luck involved in the final table.

[jac4565]

phil's just terrible.....then and now.....on one hand ( 4 handed poker mind you) he mucks 10-10 preflop....and the next hand he calls 2 all ins preflop with A-10...in both caes an experienced player woudl have done just the opposite.....shove the 10's and muck the A-10 pre-flop

[watergun7]

@jac4565 Not sure... The format means that folding 10s when you are at risk might increase your equity in prize money (someone might get knocked out, and you won't) even if you might be ahead. In addition, a short stacked player would be going all in on a lot of hands etc etc. It all depends on chipstack sizes, but we have no information about that here.

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[Chipexcess]

My mom plays ma jong and is a good friend of chans older brother.

[GialloHorror]

It's just not the same without hearing Norman Chad call this final table.

Johnny Chan seemed so intense back then. He seems really mellow now.

It's also funny to look back on this, and see how little chips were on the table compared to how many there are on the final table these days

[MrImpossible]

Just remember: 750.000 dollars was a heckload of money back than..

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[JackSprat2323]

I love how the commentator pointed out that Hellmuth won it on the last hand.

[HateClips]

a young phil, before all the shit talking started :)

[NeoSilvanus]

im so confused on the winning hand, Phil had a pair of 9's and pair of 10s (two pair), why does he need a low card?

Johhny had a pair of 10s with ace kicker which loses unless he gets an Ace. how can a low card with one pair give him a win.???

[FortyOzSwilla]

@Flux247 He had Kings and Nines with Ten kicker... dunce

[Babakandy]

@NeoSilvanus

because if a queen or 10 came out on the river phils 9's would have been counterfeited and johhny would win with his ace kicker, and if jack came out on the river johhny would have gotten ace high straight,

[juan833blue]

@Babakandy But had a king come up on the River, Chan would have had Trip Kings with an Ace but Hellmuth would have had a Full House; Kings over Nines.

[Element1516]

@NeoSilvanus Becuz hold em is a game of the best 5 cards... u play the board as well .. phill had a pair of 9's in the hole (pocket 9's) Chan had A-7 the board came K K 10 now hellmuth has 9's and Kings. if the turn woulda came another 10 chan would take the lead becuz he would have had King's and 10's with an A kicker.. hellmuth would THEN have Kings and 10's with a 9 kicker (his pair of 9's couldnt beat the board, therefore hes playing the board" if the river woulda came a Queen same scenario

[patatepowa]

A77 A BIG DRAW lol its like the driest flop

[pigeonkid4]

@patatepowa

Commentator means he drew a big flop; i.e hit a big flop.

[Herv3]

I'd like to replace Zewin with an older Hellmuth. The young Hellmuth wouldn't know what to do with all the abuse he would be taking.

[tibb5235]

i like hellmuth more than chan... both are great though!!

[jeromerome6]

He was a 3:2 dog? Maybe that's why Jonny doesn't make any more final tables. He doesn't even know the odds. He was more like a 2:1 dog

[valdez87]

2 people all in and he calls with A10? I know you have to get your chips in and get a proper stack to be heads up and with a chance of winning, but that is ridiculous - if anyone did that to him today he'd blow up! :)

[easymoney7007]

@valdez87

just goes to show that even back then it was a game of luck.  Absolutely ZERO skill involved with Helmuth calling two all-in bets with A,10....what could he possibly be ahead of? Without that lucky 3 outer Ace he probably never becomes a Main Event Champion.

[MJDangerous]

@valdez87 that's bullshit, saying anything to criticize Hellmuth. The pocket 2 raised all in first and Phil called which is just normal with AT facing a short stack. The 3rd guy came in for 160k more in a pot of over 500k in total, obviously he had to call donkey

[valdez87]

@MJDangerous Okay, now you've explained the exact play, it makes more sense... and it's short-handed too (right?) so fair enough.

Still, poker was different then than it is today... and Phil would have a thing or two to say about anyone doing this to him if he had 10 10 and got called by A10 and they sucked out :P that was my point is all...

[cdubmeyer]

@valdez87 that is a very great hand three way and more so heads up

[cdubmeyer]

@valdez87 and also that dude with the 2's was going to go allin anyway with probably anything, he was shortstacked.

[ilovebrandnewcarpets]

@valdez87 ya, but people used to be terrible. If you or I played 10 events a year we'd probably win one. LOL

[Jbcartman]

@valdez87 at the final table you want to play all aces especially A10 being a viable hand, Hellmuth with the insta call probably thought they were weak

[jibbers0]

a big draw for hellmuth he has aces and sevens lol i thought he flopped like a flush draw or w/e...poker has changed a lot i guess

[scotty1879]

this phil hellmuth is a real doucher.

[jbm2005]

chan one of the all time greats my azz

[ShallowBayBandit]

@jbm2005 The guy almost won it three times in a row. No one's ever done that. Yeah, he's pretty good. You don't hear much from him anymore because he's kicking ass in cash games.

I'm not even a Chan fanboy, but denying his skill is just dumb.

[idalgleish87]

most of the top house hold names in poker these days are far better players than Phil in my opinion but all of them havent bought into every NLH wsop tornement for the past 30+ years so havent got as many braclets.

[kra1zy]

rofl and that moron would call anyone that calls that with ace ten a donk for sure i dunno how he was winning only one tourney

[JohnF30Music]

the commentator sucked

[yyweiss89]

any card higher then a ten says the announcer. ??!! is he retarted. a king would have filled phil up.

[kilnmaster]

your exactly right! the guy is a moron

[Burrundango]

Hellmuth had AT and Chan had A7... pay attention

[mickymacky02]

i met phil in portland <----------no jokes

[XowntXihqX]

i hate those all ins before the flop.

[nights1515]

@XowntXihqX Me as well.

[dayingyang0]

LOL "I was suprised when he rolled over ace ten of spades". Meanwhile Phil was all in on a 3 way pot with A7 and got very lucky to spike an ace on the flop. Phil always amazes me with his inability to see when he gets very lucky, and his child-like behavior when he loses against an "inferior" hand.

[fromtheabove]

he was destined to win haha what would the poker world be if it didnt have hellmuth

[brown5md]

he is the biggest douche bag in the world.

[alrightythenGr]

Boy the commentator sucked

[DoralMan18]

very true jeffmagic32, phil is my favorite player but I do believe if Stu "The Kid" Unger were still alive he would have like 20 bracelets already.

[xendon68]

Calling an all in re raise wih Ace Ten?

[toonful]

he would kill himself on tv if some1 did that too him now.

[ttom1122]

phil was second in chips, he had about 25 BBs behind if he loses. Plus he is suited and gives himself a chance to go straight to heads up play. What this video dosn't show is the initial raise, lott was in the big blind and re-raised when in came around. Phil is gettin about 2.5 to 1.

[DubRighteous]

Imagine if Helmuth had pocket T's losing against AT....

"He called a raise with Ace (beep) Ten (beep) (beep). Can't (beep) believe this. This is unreal, (beep) incredible. This are the worst (beep) players in the world. I guess if luck weren't involved I'd win every hand. "

[jeffmagic32]

That was a surprisingly loose call from Chan. I'm sure he thought he could out play Phil so it seems strange that he would call off all his money pre flop with that hand.

[jdog108048]

yea i thought so too chan wouldnt do that nowadays

[davidpmacdonald]

Looks like Zewin is from the future

[Nicoyutub]

phill's voice sounds exactly the same as it does now.

[ErsinYildiz]

O R LY

[brainsbranes]

@Nicoyutub well its the same guy isnt it? uhhhh,..........

[MarkH10]

Compare today's production values to this garbage. Terrible audio, pathetic commentary, and teh graphics suxxors

[mightybatillo]

They did what they can in that year D:

[PocketAceBas]

That thing he says about he wins with any card higher then a 10 is bullshit.. 10,J,Q,A would win it but the king won't

[LaMusicaVaBene]

@PocketAceBas YES the King does win it, phil wuld have a full house... look again

[FURERS]

U absolutely right

[johne71]

@BurnYourCash but another king would have been a fullboat for Hellmuth

[Sambarre]

Greatest poker player, hands down.

[julesickdrums]

how many bracelets does johhny chan, hellmuth and Stu Ungar have in total, there are bracelets for the best player and other things right?

[jeffmagic32]

Phil has 11 bracelets Chan has 10 and Stuey has 5. Three of Sty's bracelets were in the main event. He played the main event 3 times and won all 3. Some people thought he was clairvoyant and many believe he was the greatest poker player to have ever played.

[totallyrandom02]

Its bullshit when the commentators say when Chan and Hellmuth are allin Chan A 7, Phil 9 9 .. flop k 10 k, turn Q.. commentators say that any card over a 10 wins the pot to Chan. Lol NO!!!! Only a 10, J, Q or an Ace would help Chan.

[AlwaysUnited]

Lol I was thinking the same thing, if a king comes out Phil has a fullhouse, Chan has trips.

[Dan742617000027]

Wow. In '89, Chan was already considered "legendary".

[Allistar123]

well he had already won two world series in a row and almost won 3??

[Dan742617000027]

Don't get me wrong, Chan fully deserved to be considered legendary in '89. It just amazed me that even twenty years ago he was already one of the greats!

[wop182]

Hellmuth probably watches this vid every night..... Douche.

[ILuv2FuckHard]

I would aswell if i was him, he played like a legend and deserves his bracelets

[SSky06]

Zewin looks like the bad guy from Superman Returns.

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[AceGuitarR7]

wtf would u go all in with dueces..... youd think you would be a bit smarter if you got to the final table

[Sezlar]

back then poker was played very differently.. they didn't have all the books they do now.. people didn't understand the odds like they do now(thx to computers) poker was a gamblers game back then.. just like every other game and sport.. it evolved into what it is today....

[AceGuitarR7]

they still had stragerty and new the odds but maybe not percantages. johnny chan was two time winner allready. also hellmuth said after he won this that he knew he was a 2-1 favourite when he went all in against chan, so there was stratergie but your right it is alot easier to find information and the different percantages.

[mindofmorrison]

Ace 7...Not smart.

[djaf420]

Why the hell is with looking straigth into the camera..

[SebastianEngland]

God, I cant believe I just sat through a video of PH playing poker. I WANT MY 6:53 BACK!!!

[xIRISHxBLOODx]

wtf part 2 of 4 its over???

[RussellsParadox]

...did he really do the same thing with pocket nines that Dwan did to him with pocket tens?...

...Seriously?

[RussellsParadox]

Oh, Chan was short-stacked. My bad.

[jgold2790]

No, he didn't. Hellmuth moved all in first with the aces and Dwan made the call with the tens. When Hellmuth won this tournament, he made the move first with his nines.

[Amaru19]

Dwan moved in with the tens.

[RussellsParadox]

Wrong. Hellmuth re-raised and Dwan re-raised all in. Watch it again.

But as I mentioned, these were different circumstances.

[zagross16]

No he didn't, you got it the other way around.

[rocketscience21]

No - Phil's 9's were a slight favorite against Chan's A7. In the game you refer to, Dwan was a 4 to 1 dog with 10's vs AA.

[qWeer0ne]

goin all in with pockets dueces? alrighty then! i don' think id ever bring my lucky orange to a tournament!

[mrtalkischeap]

heads up and Ace is good and having A7 heads up isnt bad so i expect most poker pro's would of made the same call going all in i know i would of lol

[a123a456a123a456a]

what the hell are you talking about A7??? bad call by chan , i dont know what kind of odds he was getting but he could have made history if he didnt donk of the tournament here, imagine 3peat

[mrtalkischeap]

an Ace is always good heads up just unfortunate phil had pocket 9's but yet again chan could of hit am Ace then phil would have no chance

[a123a456a123a456a]

even still he had to figure he was a dog, i dont know what percentage of his stack was already in there, but when hellmouth 3 bet it he had to of known he was at least a 2 to 1 dog or worse!

[mrtalkischeap]

a good chance to double up aswel and its double up or nothing situation

[spicegirl81]

Overall I think it was the right play especially since he has the chance to knock off 2 players AND it looks like he still has ALOT of chips to play with if his hand does not win (looks like he would have had about 500k left, and this was about a 600k pot)

[MTLZ28]

Wow some of you jumping down Phil's throat for calling All-in with ATs have no concept of poker odds... For starters we have no indication of the blinds or antes at this stage nor do we know the chip counts but it looks like at the begining of the hand Phil had both players well covered. First Chan folds then a short-stacked player shoves for 83k in chips.

[MTLZ28]

Easy call for phil since the range of this player who is pushing is enormous, he could very well be up against a rag ace, small pair or even any 2 cards like QJ.

Furthermore there is only one player left to act behind hellmuth so the chances that there are any more decisions left to make in this hand are small. Easy call.

Now unfortunately the last player did in fact move in for 163k more on top of the 83k so now it's time to do a little math:

[MTLZ28]

ATs holds up well against 2 players considering the pot odds:

if he is up against 2 small pairs he wins: 41%

if he is up against 2 players with undercards to the ace like KJ QJ KQ J9(unlikely but still possible) he wins: 40%

if he is up against an underpair and a dominating ace (which could very well be) he wins: 24%

[spicegirl81]

if he is up against a small pair and a overpair to the 10 (like KK, QQ also likely since the last player to move in seems pretty solid from what we've seen) he wins: 29% he's not in bad shape and getting almost the odds to call here

The only situation where he is crushed and it's a terrible call is if the opponent last to move in is holding AA which is unlikely since he is himself holding an ace.

[spicegirl81]

Just a correction he is getting actually MORE than the odds to call even against a player holding KK or QQ and assuming the other player has an underpair.

[MTLZ28]

there was 249k in the pot before the second player re-raised 163k more total.

It is back to hellmuth who needs to call 163k into a pot that now contains 413k.

He is getting almost 3 to 1 on his money WITHOUT even considering the blinds or antes. This means he only needs to win roughly 25% of the time to make this call profitable. There is a bit more to it considering the side pot but we will keep it simple...

[161phil161]

phils become scared of playing big pots his more of a tight agressive player now

[SuperPokerBrat]

Knocking out two players with A10 offsuit was just plain lucky. POKER BRAT had only 3 outs. I can't believe he called two all-ins with that hand. He was very likely to be dominated (AK AQ AJ AA 1010). Stupid stupid play.

[fffcccf]

don like like loud ass havad khan

[AMagno12]

the commentator says that Chan can win with any card higher than a 10 on the river, but a K doesn't give the hand to Chan. It just gives a fh to Phil

[weemikey70]

johnny chan - what a fat litttle wank!

[jugganaut35]

Hellmuth won this WSOP against a total of 178 other entrants. Not quite the same as winning a WSOP ME with 7,500 entrants.

I've won online freerolls with more players than this WSOP had.

[char3795]

It was 178 pros in the tournament dont compare your 178 player freerolls to a 178 player wsop event.

[AhYaOk]

hellmuth looked gay when the river came

[jugganaut35]

1st of all, you're kidding yourself if you think every player even in this tourney was a pro. Probably a higher % of them were, but there were probably some hi roller whales and amateurs as well.

2nd, you missed the point. I wasn't comparing myself to Hellmuth. The point was, there are FAR fewer hard decisions to be made and far less luck needed to win a 178-man tourney than to even cash in a 5,000+ tourney.

Sure he won back then, but it's not as impressive as it is now.

[vicmackirov]

So what you are saying is that winning a tournament that involves a lot more luck is a bigger accomplishment than a tournament that requires a lot more skill?

Way to start out sounding like an idiot, then re-posting to prove that you are.

Gratz on your play money victories.

[jugganaut35]

Yeah sure, that's what I'm saying, all you need is a boatload of luck to win a 7,000+ tourney.

Winning a 2-day tourney as opposed to winning a weeklong+ tourney now? Yeah forget stamina and good decision making for triple the amount of time, all you need now is a truckload of luck. That's exactly what I said all right.

Try taking a reading comprehension course sometime. You need it.

[koahart]

cool man^^

[OppPaul]

Then you go and give Don Zewin a bad

beat with ironically 10's. Obviously,

we could be watching Don Zewin as

"the poker brat"

[1325194]

i didnt under stand the last hand...  : / why Hellmuth win?

[fatpeasant]

he had two pair, 9's and kings, chan only had kings

[1325194]

Ooo thanxs xD haha

[misterill]

lol wtf is don zewin wearing?!?!?

[EliteOutlaw]

Idk but it looks like something Michael Jackson would have wore

[johndawson420]

actually a Q woulda counterfitted him as well

[barracudatheband]

oriental express?! c'mon man, wtf. i don't see how that shit flies for anyone, let alone johnny chan.

[brandoH85]

i doubt it had the offensive connotations it does now 20 years ago, and also if you listen to the announcer he's definitely not using it in any kind of offensive or derogatory way - its clear he has a great deal of genuine respect for the player just from his commentary.

[skinhorse13]

Wow what a joke of a commentator. Guess he has no idea that a 10 would counterfit 99. Or a king would make a full house for hellmuth.

[voznow7]

on the river, before the flop johnny was a about 3:2.5

[voznow7]

Ya Phil, you were actually a 4:1 Favorite.

Good reading abilities.

[canadianpoker83]

At no point during the final hand was Phil a 4-1 favorite.