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Cult?
Any body with a ounce of rational could observe it is not a cult.
I only enjoyed my time in the work.
It was always, prove it to yourself.
loudwaters9 1 week ago
More shows Nesky.:) ...You are doing great work ... very sympathetic and a very talented interviewer...Ahau
NerkhiDanser 1 year ago
Very good interview. Thanks for the post. I like the fact Peter isn't emphasizing any particular school. That should be a personal quest. (The Claymont Society is not a fourth way school)
But google "fourth way bookstores" as a start. You may find something that strikes an inner chord.
ghahandi 2 years ago
There are different factions of Gurdjieff schools. I am aware of two of the more well known schools. One employs a work weekend;. one can attend a Saturday or Sunday...or both. Another offers one Sunday workday per month. Gurdjieffians come in all flavors. As serious as the concept of self-awakening is, I find some the younger students often times are bit too extreme; as they have jumped in with both feet. The tenured folks seem to age well...and enjoy life more. I personally like the ideas.
ghahandi 2 years ago
Disclosure:
I am not part of this group nor am I aware of their practices. I am speaking of my own experiences
OpenMind00 3 years ago
The enneagram is a mathematical mystery built on the divisions of 7 and the semi-tonal/tonal changes in the octave. Interesting that this guy has started a cult. It has gurus, methodologies of pursuit. The majority of Gurdjieff/Ouspensky groups meet on Sundays, denying Christians to attend church if they wish to be at a "work day." Don't be fooled; it's a cult. I used to be in it. If you are in it... Get out.
PeripheralMan 3 years ago
I think you have a lot of hurt in you. Its best if you look to yourself for why you are speaking so poorly of a seemingly nice man
Your statement is false, Most groups meet during the week and those that meet on Sundays meet later in the day so it does not interfere with any other activities
they do not ask for allegiance or anything resembling a cult. I don't know what u were involved in but it sounds like not a genuine Teaching.
Voluntary from start to finish, no pressure applied, ever
OpenMind00 3 years ago 2
"Your statement is false, Most groups meet during the week and those that meet on Sundays meet later in the day so it does not interfere with any other activities"
You have the AUDACITY to say that I'm lying? Read below.
Listen, I was BORN into the "work". My father was a founding member of the Toronto Group, so I am not stating falsehoods. They met ALL day on Sundays from 9am to about 4pm or 5pm, week after week. We enjoyed leftover food from the lunch provided for the day at "The Hall".
PeripheralMan 3 years ago
Maybe you would be less hostile toward your experience had you came to it of your own volition rather than being born into it, your interaction would likely be different. But then perhaps a distortion snuck into your group and took root, thus causing further distortions and thus leading away from the teachings of actual value to you.
Just a thought.
Pax tecum.
Gnothean 3 years ago 2
I belonged to the Children's/Young People's group for all my developing years. We met on Sundays for the entire day as well, doing primarily crafts and creating dramatic presentations for special occasions, including Good Ol' Gurdjieff's birthday on January 13th.
PeripheralMan 3 years ago
"they do not ask for allegiance or anything resembling a cult. I don't know what u were involved in but it sounds like not a genuine Teaching."
Not so. You must attend their meetings and participate if you wish to investigate. For the entire period spanning the 1970's and 80's, the Toronto Group always met on Sundays for the entire day.
PeripheralMan 3 years ago
"they do not ask for allegiance or anything resembling a cult. I don't know what u were involved in but it sounds like not a genuine Teaching."
Not so. You must attend their meetings and participate if you wish to investigate. For the entire period spanning the 1970's and 80's, the Toronto Group always met on Sundays for the entire day.
PeripheralMan 3 years ago
I apologize if you took my response as saying you were a liar.
I was stating that from my own experience it has not been anything resembling that.
Being born into that situation seems a bit much, I would agree.
OpenMind00 3 years ago
You know, speaking in hushed tones and using multi-syllabic constructions in your language does not make you wise. It simply makes you obnoxious.
PeripheralMan 3 years ago