Kabbalists have no clue what they are talking about. Kabbalah has never been properly understood by the Jews as they only learnt a fraction of it from the Egyptions and Caananites, they got it from. Their anti-Egyption and Caananite history (as evidenced in the Torah), excludes them from respecting the creators of Kabbalah, enough to fully learn this science from them. As a result it has been reduced to nothing but empty speculation, just as Greek philosophy was, for the same reasons.