Why use such force and energy. Should learn from 鄭珉永老師 . Even more effortless - people just fly off without him moving a finger. Watch his video on Youtube and how he shivers.
.......If the student is unaware of line it can be captured and used against him, as a student wanting to learn this he or she has to openly give it to see how the teacher uses it to propel them backwards. The higher levels are when the line is not given and yet can be captured and used, this is high level idea, because of no compliance used... peace - mikemartello
Interesting Demo and not fake at all... The ideas here are capturing the line of intention from your opponent. That line of intention can be a number of factors, one being stiffness or redundant tension held in the arm, torso, legs or full body, but there needs be some kind of line of intent. The people going backwards is true but yet also compliant in this exercise because the teacher is showing them how he uses there lines of intent............
.......If the student is unaware of line it can be captured and used against him, as a student wanting to learn this he or she has to openly give it to see how the teacher uses it to propel them backwards. The higher levels are when the line is not given and yet can be captured and used, this is high level idea, because of no compliance used... peace - mikemartello
@mikemartello I study Ving Tsun and this make sense on what you see as most of these internal soft approach styles I have seen on the internet are far to unrealistic! this is a good example of structure, position, focas of mind/intent and energy, we learn this in our basic form siu nim tao form then body mass move in second form chum kiu. Classic Ving Tsun strips it down to zero ecconomy keeping it real.
好假
xiongxiangyu91 2 months ago
呢種勁= =其實又唔只係限於太極,其實好多拳都會用到
peterlokari 8 months ago
人地無弓箭馬,咁當然被推倒拉= =
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因為太極拳發勁是由腰胯間轉換陰陽剛柔 忽隱忽現 引進落空合即出(含整勁、沉勁、聽勁 體用三合一) 很多只是拿"整勁"來橫打 之前體驗過我老師一隻手指把我就發走的 在外看眾家推手 多不敢把後面支撐腳往前合步 死撐著 深怕對手推走他 出手蹬腳非太極 重其意 不重其形 腰胯之間來主宰 這個"胯"字 誰能知曉 雙腳只是過程 單腳 到無腳在地亦能發勁 拳友知悉嗎??共勉之 連絡網址glock29134160@yahoo.com.tw 阿賢 ps. 最恨沒時間練推手了 哈哈
t87132912 11 months ago
睇落有D假..
dogdog20032003 11 months ago
影片所顯示其實是練習與訓練發勁之方式, 因此要評論被推或推人的功夫就不實際了, 發勁是必要要透過實際練習的過程, 被發也是要經過練習才不會受傷, 這像是柔道要練習摔人也要練習被摔是一樣的.
懂勁要能化也是要經過不斷被發才練得出的, 雙方都能在以上影片練出功夫, 那是滿不錯的訓練方式.
yehsting 1 year ago
懂勁,接觸到對手,能知對手用力,並側身化去對手的勁,拳經所謂「引進落空」,不會讓對手推倒…,身體好、氣力夠的人,始終是優勝的。以弱勝強,除非對手的懂勁較高。
tmwc2003 1 year ago
高手發勁從外形是看不太出來的!
johnsoncheng56 1 year ago
被推的人都會跨出一小步
但是那一步那是支點不是重心...
方便往後跳的支點...
lanboy1027 1 year ago
请不要侮辱太极拳
114064024 1 year ago
這是用身形重心去發,勁的成分極少!
johnsoncheng56 1 year ago
1:21 呢條死肥佬演技最差....
ct11145 1 year ago
哈哈哈哈~~~ 笑能到我呀!!!
ct11145 1 year ago
重點是影片中的第一個評論 很實在
bobnet1980 1 year ago
интересное видео что - за направление ?! :))
9269535 1 year ago
try using this technique with non of your students...like the kenpo,mma,ufc,wrestlers....then ill join your club
kinggaryy 1 year ago
Why use such force and energy. Should learn from 鄭珉永老師 . Even more effortless - people just fly off without him moving a finger. Watch his video on Youtube and how he shivers.
TJcrazyhorse 2 years ago
fake.
danhoshima 2 years ago
hahahaha, this guy should totally fight in UFC, he would woop Kimbo Slice's ass, hahahaha
bbbwqgmz 2 years ago
白痴
ohmyjj 2 years ago 3
If the students weren't so stiff they would not be moved like this ,they are allowing themselves to be pushed
mbtaichi 2 years ago
It is interesting but fake. Most of students seem to fall back too naturely.
yuetanqing 3 years ago
It is not fake. Other than just the fa Jin, it also act on human behaviour. The Sifu follows one rule. If you want to go up, go down first.
denzuko1 2 years ago
.......If the student is unaware of line it can be captured and used against him, as a student wanting to learn this he or she has to openly give it to see how the teacher uses it to propel them backwards. The higher levels are when the line is not given and yet can be captured and used, this is high level idea, because of no compliance used... peace - mikemartello
mikemartello 3 years ago
Interesting Demo and not fake at all... The ideas here are capturing the line of intention from your opponent. That line of intention can be a number of factors, one being stiffness or redundant tension held in the arm, torso, legs or full body, but there needs be some kind of line of intent. The people going backwards is true but yet also compliant in this exercise because the teacher is showing them how he uses there lines of intent............
mikemartello 3 years ago 7
.......If the student is unaware of line it can be captured and used against him, as a student wanting to learn this he or she has to openly give it to see how the teacher uses it to propel them backwards. The higher levels are when the line is not given and yet can be captured and used, this is high level idea, because of no compliance used... peace - mikemartello
mikemartello 3 years ago 2
I have tried this with many masters that other people have described as real master ... and nothing happened
I have felt some sort of minor wave but nothing like the fa jing shown here, ans my body has remain quite still
To me it is a mixture of self hypnosis and body mecanics with a poor root of the partner
bandedecloches 2 years ago
@mikemartello I study Ving Tsun and this make sense on what you see as most of these internal soft approach styles I have seen on the internet are far to unrealistic! this is a good example of structure, position, focas of mind/intent and energy, we learn this in our basic form siu nim tao form then body mass move in second form chum kiu. Classic Ving Tsun strips it down to zero ecconomy keeping it real.
pascodavid 7 months ago
被發者 雙腳雙重
任何人一推 就可倒
這哪叫發勁 真的是丟太極的臉阿
kairi0621 3 years ago 3
FAKE!!!!!
pianoky 3 years ago
学会躲 什么功夫都是狗屎
asteargoesby 3 years ago 2
colllll
Devilmaycryabc 4 years ago
我花在跟你打字說明的時間,大概已經可以教會一個人把這個老師擋住發勁,甚至偶而可以反發勁回去了......
凡是弄懂的人,都會和我一樣,對於花了那麼久的時間去練什麼【氣沉丹田】覺得很不值,但是對於堅持要依照【傳統古法】煉氣2~5年的人,還是會尊重的。
TDK555888 4 years ago 2
以前我不懂的時候,也是覺得這種勁很神,現在弄懂了以後,覺得那是在欺負人。
找個沒練過太極的人,一分鐘就可以教他不被發出去;十分鐘應該就可以教他頂住這種發勁;至於要把這種勁吃下來反發回去,大約一兩個禮拜就可以吧!
那其實只是技巧,跟氣完全無關,就像隔空抓藥不過就是魔術技巧而已。
我相信他也不是百發百中都能發出去,但是影片把漂亮發出去的剪輯成一部影片,就顯得很厲害了。
本來怕這是你的老師表演,不好意思明說,既然你說不是,那就不拐彎抹角了。
這種技術如果沒人說,大概要練氣練個十幾二十年才發現訣竅,而且還說不清楚原因;但是只要有關鍵訣竅,很容易就學會了;江湖一點訣,說穿了就不值錢了。
真正對空手道,跆拳道,合氣道,柔道,拳擊,泰拳.....你會發現它幾乎沒有用,就像【奪命剪刀腳】一樣。
多半是陳太比較認同這種發勁。
TDK555888 4 years ago 3
太極用於武術的第一步就是練發勁,影片是發勁的練習也是第一步,不能只用這種方式練發勁的,有所謂"練精化氣",就是指這一步,下一步是"練氣化神",當你練到這一步的時候就沒有姿勢的限制了,老實說練到這第二步的人才可以與別派對打,從開始練到第二步最少是要2.5年到3年,這與一般武術所需時間也差不多的,我會貼這幾個影片是應因為教太極拳發勁的人很少,以致大部份人都錯認為太極只能輕柔慢練的.
yehsting 4 years ago
你的見解我不認同。基本上你沒有懂自己的勁,也就是說你沒用意帶動盤架子煉好自己的勁,所以你意為不用力,結果你不懂虛實陰陽,於是虛浮地被推倒。煉到意到、氣到、勁到連綿不斷,要有名師指點。主於腰、發於腿、形於指,一動無有不動。然後懂人之勁。如果功夫高,推手煉得好,說對泰拳,空手道...沒有用,那是外行話。有幾部拳經要讀,拳經內容要人教,否則不理解...。我認為太極拳煉得好是最好的拳術。我比較喜愛楊式,因為我沒有煉推手,所以是紙上談兵。對不起。班門弄斧了。
tmwc2003 4 years ago
@TDK555888 同意你的說法所未發勁就是一種技巧而已
juin0921 9 months ago
快到目標才用力的是短力,外家稱為【勁】,類似李小龍【吋勁】,就是用樁法或是關節鎖住,以身體重量、或是腰腿大肌肉的力量,去破對方上半身的關節,使其崩潰,或是直接打擊對手的身體。
用這種觀念練出來的【吋勁】屬於剛猛,被發勁的人,都是肩部或是腰部潰縮,但是如果先花個幾分鐘教導【沉肩墜肘】,【鬆腰落胯】的技巧,就能撐住了,但那終究是頂牛。
TDK555888 4 years ago
用身體的重量打出的拳顯然是外家拳,內家拳是壓縮自丹田的勁所貫出的拳,這由丹田發的勁與肌肉所發的勁最大的不同是勁在體內是像一團水那樣移動打出的.
yehsting 4 years ago
表演者是你的老師嗎?
TDK555888 4 years ago
網路抓的影片,只是與我練的方式很像,也與國父紀念館練發勁的太極拳一樣
yehsting 4 years ago
八極不是內家拳ㄟ,八卦掌才是內家吧,八級拳十分剛猛的?
我發人都是雙腳平行站立,不用弓箭步;我朋友抵抗是用弓箭步,不用彈簧墊,也不會受傷。
不過我沒有多的彈簧墊,也沒有場地,所以發人力量要控制,不可以太過頭。
接勁只要鬆柔就不會受傷吧?可能也飛不出去,要【發人丈餘】的條件就是要對手【雙手僵直】,如何讓對手僵硬就是技巧,所以我說這裡表演得很漂亮。
TDK555888 4 years ago
是弄錯了,原因是劉雲樵大師練八極也練太極對沒練過八極的是會搞促錯的,抱歉.
yehsting 4 years ago
@TDK555888 聽說形意也很剛猛在下可否請問你他可否算內家啊
polo5201413 6 months ago
太極拳原本就是武術與八極同是內家拳,因此單看發勁是看不出練的是那一種,人類用力是以肌肉出力為主,然而肌肉出力是靠基本體能的氣來推動的,外家拳練肌肉力量也到氣只是氣只夠支撐肌肉出的力而已,內家拳則是故意放鬆肌肉來練氣,因此可以練出比肌肉需要還要強的氣,也因此內外家拳從外表看,外家拳是出拳到打擊到目標都用力的,內家拳折則是快到目標才用力的,除此之外很難分別內外家拳的,因為只是用力的方式不同而已,也因此內家拳可以當外家拳打,外家拳也可以當內家拳練的.
yehsting 4 years ago
其實我覺得比較像【八級拳】的發勁,而不像太極拳的發勁!
TDK555888 4 years ago
腰腿的樁很扎實漂亮,發人技巧也抓得很準確!
好像比較接近外家拳的勁,明勁,瞬間的力,腰部以上似乎鬆柔不用力,腿的力量好像雖大但是短,看起來似乎不用力。
短距離的發勁真的非常漂亮,長距離的發勁似乎就用力推,但是是以瞬間的短力為起始。
被發勁的人都沒有弓箭步,但是發勁的人是大弓箭步,這和真正的發勁到是相反地;太極發勁表演應該是被發勁的人站大弓箭步仍然支撐不住被發出去,而發勁的人應該是不用弓箭步或是小弓箭步而已。
因此這影片中的發勁與太極拳的鬆柔發勁似乎不同,倒是比較像八極拳的勁比較相似。
在網路上看發勁表演,這是表演得很棒的。
TDK555888 4 years ago
影片是一方練發勁一方練接勁,功力不足的人是不能不以退來化掉攻擊的勁,如果功力不夠又以很穩的馬步接勁那就會受內傷的.
yehsting 4 years ago