Our government represents Big Business (including the Supreme Court). Maybe Kucinich and Gravel would represent us if they could get elected. But the media is corporately owned and little truth will ever get out
There is no question that 911 was an inside job. Which is the #1 reason not to ever for a Republican until the truth comes out and we acknowledge it. I don't see why the Democrats in power couldn't begin a real investigation. I'm still incomplete with the murders of the Kennedy's and King.
mike gravel is a stand up dude, him along with ron paul and kucinich are the only ones that play the role nobody else want to "the truth tellers" and to the comments below suggesting a paul/gravel ticket that would be probably the best 4 or 8 years of our lives but it wont happen, the only one who has valid support is paul and they wont let him into all the debates, the best we can hope for is ron paul running as a ind.
congratulations you have been subject to the media's propaganda about Paul, the racists slurs that were in the journals or w/e were NOT written by Paul and he had NO oversight of those
Reasons you should consider donating, what he will do for the U.S. as President; Bring peace in the middle east, Bring the troops home in 120 days, Education paid for pre-school to scholarship, Empower the citizens as lawmakers, Eliminate the IRS & Income Tax, End the war on drugs, Universal healthcare for all, Bring equality for gay rights, etc.
Hear his plans at: youtubeDOTcom/gravel2008 & gravel2008DOTus
The fact is, Mike Gravel angered powerful people when he confronted Senator Clinton over Iran during last month's debate. Up to that moment the Clinton juggernaut was rolling over everyone. Now Mike is paying the price for speaking truth to power
They wouldn't want people to actually vote for someone they believe in! Instead they want to herd us into supporting their pre-selected, corrupt, corporate-backed choices.
Fresh on the heels of MSNBC's exclusion of Senator Mike Gravel from last week's Philadelphia debate, we now hear that CNN has cut the Senator from its November 15 debate in Las Vegas. Like MSNBC, CNN's justification comes down to one ugly factor: MONEY.
Yeah, we don't know the whole truth about 9/11 but that doesn't imply that the government brought down the towers. Neither Gravel nor Ron Paul are that insane to believe that..
whats that thing that benjamin franklin said? a country that would sacrifice a little liberty for a little security deserves neither. what happened to that.
Maybe I should go around and start bashing Gravel and Kucinich. Your an idiot! Ron Paul says in this interview that he supports a new 9/11 investigation. What's wrong with you? People support Ron Paul for many issues besides 9/11. Ron Paul will also help get to the root of the problem that causes 9/11 type events to happen. That's why most 9/11 truthers support Ron Paul. Ron Paul will also have a good chance at winning support from the general population.
Yes it's called GOLD STANDARD and putting the money where it belongs instead of in someones back pocket.
Do some homework. Get a basic understanding of the history of the Federal Reserve and the IRS and work back. Therein you should find helpful hints to the solution to that particular problem. Dr Paul has and he will implement those changes upon becoming President!
I don't understand why Alex Jones and the rest of the 'patriots' keep pushing Ron Paul. Gravel is totally a 9/11 truth candidate he's in the record about having a new investigation and he's even saying 'hell no we don't know the truth about 9/11'.
Ron Paul has dismissed 9/11 truth one too many times for my liking when questioned by the MSM.
Written by Presidential candidate and former US Senator Mike Gravel (consulting with many) the National Initiative empowers us to share law-making power with representatives, similar to ballot initiatives in 24 States, but at all levels from national to local and with major improvements (see below.) It empowers We The People to check and balance with legislators, Congress, lobbyists, and money!
-contd- 1. planes unexpectedly hit towers. 2. next day, in fact the same day, the identities of the hijackers with the magick passports are revealed, as well as their confirmed status on terrorism watchlists that were supposed to prevent this tradgedy 3. you swallow this blindly, wave the flag and surrender not just your rights but your prerogative to think critically. Grow up! - living in NY does not give you exclusive ownership of this national atrocity.
to spooge-rag: you know shit. Giuliani who was on the 911 commission has yet to read the report! instead of asking for definitive proof, which you should damned well know as an NY'er, was cut into pieces, thrown onto barges and shipped to india and china for recycling ASAP, you should try to objectively examine how the whole thing unfolded.
1. Marvin Bush ran the security firm for Twin Towers and canceled his contract a day before 9/11.
2. Bush didn't hide in Nebraska Bunker on 9/11. He had lunch with republican wall street CEOs, including Warren Buffett in Nebraska. Thus, his trip to NE was preplanned. So was saving the lives of many republican CEOs who would otherwise perish in the attack.
im not asking why, im asking how. how did they keep it covered up from the world and the rest of congress. the excecutive branch isnt all powerful, think about it, every single member of every single branch of the goverment along with every single corporate ceo and every single member of the millitary and every single member of the news would have to be in on this. as well as the hijackers, and the taliban, and al quida. that makes no sense.
You obviously don't know anything about gag orders, need-to-know ops, top secret commands, threats to family members, SECRETS THAT DON'T GET LEAKED, etc.
so the goverment killed and threatend millions of people worldwide? that would have leaked out, face it, its impssable for the goverment to cover this up. something would have gotten out. face it, your intire argument is without logic, or reason. you still havnt answerd my question as to how they did it.
A new investigation needs to be conducted with impartial results exposing the truth - THEN we will know more than we do now. I have questions - where are the answers? OPEN UP NEW INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE TRUTH!
listen, your version of events is impossable. bush knew something was going to happen, and thats it. he dident know when,who, or what was going to happen. just something, and as a result the idiot disregarded the warning. dosint mean hes responsable for it.
It's been said that the first casualty of war is always truth. But with the Bush administration's war on terrorism, it's hard to know, because even before 9/11 the administration had begun hermetically sealing formerly public sources of government information.
A month before the attack, in his Aug. 6 daily intelligence briefing, Bush was "told that morning of the al-Qaida terror network's interest in conducting a strike within the U.S., and that it might involve highjacked airplanes," reports the Wall Street Journal (7/24/03.)......
Perhaps the Bushies had a reason for ignoring the warnings. Something brushed over in the Congressional 9/11 report suggests the possibility of one of the worst conspiracies of American history.
PNAC, Project for the New American Century members of PNAC included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush and Paul Wolfowitz, a director of the organization.
All signed a statement of principles, one of which was to promote "American global leadership" with special emphasis on Arab countries. Another was to "transform" the U.S. military with huge increases in defense spending.
Here's the chilling kicker: To convince the American people to spend extra billions for defense instead of on Social Security, Medicare, etc., PNAC suggested it would take a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." (PNAC's exact words.)
"...the war on terrorism is a smokescreen and that the US knew in advance about the September 11 attack on New York but, for strategic reasons, chose not to act on the warnings."
what was he supposed to do? say "sorry kids, our lives are all in danger" then go hide in a bunker? how would he explain that? look at the video of him reading, he spends a good 20-30 seconds thinking what he should do.
First, he should have stood up, thanked the kids for their time and politely excused himself from the classroom and told the teacher to please continue reading. There is no need to tell the kids what is happening- they were sure to find out in the next hour or two anyway.
Check out sploogersmoof channel. He's a little boy who happens to be an Internet Troll.
An Internet troll is someone who intentionally posts messages about sensitive topics constructed to cause controversy in an online community such as an online discussion forum or USENET groups in order to bait users into responding. They may also plant images and data on networks that others may find disturbing in order to cause confrontation.
Agreed. He's not the issue though and in fact he becomes a catalyst for more posts by awakened alarmists revealing the soft underbelly of this corrupt US government.
Why is Rosie O'Donnell the only one in the public eye taling about this and Bush Outlawing All War Protest In United States In one of his most chilling moves to date against his own citizens, the American War Leader has issued a sweeping order this week outlawing all forms of protest against the Iraq war? President Bush enacted into US law an 'Executive Order' on July 17th titled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
im pretty sure your still allowed to protest the iraq war. your forgetting rosie o'donnel is an idiot also. george bush dosint make laws, and congress is majorily against the war sooooo, yhea he dident outlaw orotest. i would have heard something. who even listens to rosie? all she does is bich about pointless things. "oh no, he dick wich sounds close to dike! i think ill bitch for years about it!". your not vouching for your intelligence here.
And this past week we have watched as our President ordered private citizens not to testify before Congress for fear of the truth being revealed. For this we must demand Impeachment.
Impeachment is not a crisis but a remedy. It was the means by which our Founding Fathers desired us as a people and a nation to hold onto our principles and to keep the genius of the balance of 3 branches of government.
true, we should impeach bush. but not for the reasons your stating. and if what you think is true then we should probably get rid of every single person in the goverment.
Regarding secrecy in the GWBush admin - perhaps the most egregious example occurred on Nov. 1, 2001, when President Bush signed Executive Order 13233, under which a former president's private papers can be released only with the approval of both that former president (or his heirs) and the current one.
im sure that will be overturned by the supreme court withen the next few years because it violates the freedom of information act, and could even be said to violate freedom of speech. so i wouldnt worry.
no, i just like arguing. i dont plant images and data on networks that some may find disturbing, i just bring up talking points because im bored. isnt that why this website was created? to combat boredom? i have no life, what else am i to do.
• Why weren't any military jets scramble when the flights went off course?
• Why were the flights unaccounted for and now on FAA radar?
• Why were there War Game using the scenario of a domestic flight being hijacked and flown into buildings occurring the day before and the morning of 9/11?
• What is Global Hawk and when did it become operational? What affiliation did the four Raytheon engineers onboard the 9/11 flights have with Global Hawk?
during said attack they had very little idea what was going on. it took them about a week to figure it out completly. the flights were acounted for, go ask the familys of those who died on th planes.
Last fall, Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E. Jones made headlines when he charged that the World Trade Center collapsed because of "pre-positioned explosives." Now, along with a group that calls itself "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," he's upping the ante.
"We believe that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11," the group says in a statement released Friday announcing its formation. "We believe these events may have been orchestrated by the administration in order to manipulate the American people into supporting policies at home and abroad."
im sure they loved the amount of support it got them, but they sure as hell dident cause it. it is litterly IMPOSSABLE!!!! do i need to tell you why again?
Your answers are obfuscations that lack any thing more than faith in your government. Over 53% of the US population polled say they believe the government is lying to them about 911. OPEN UP A NEW INVESTIGATION, NOW!!!
believe me when i say i definetly do NOT have faith in my goverment. im being honest, wich implies me to say that this idea you have is illogical and extremely stupid. nothing you say will ever change that. i dont care about statistics, why would i?
• How did the concrete poured steel reinforced core fail if the floors pancaked onto themselves?
• How did an oxygen starved, low temperature fire created enough heat to elongate the steel beams to induce a buckling load to cause the attachment joints to fail?
• What caused the external forces to eject the debris outward up to 500' beyond the foot print of the building?
• Controlled Demolition Inc was awarded the contract to clean up ground zero. What other clean-up projects were they awarded?
• Why has there not been an investigation of 9/11 by anyone other that FEMA? (note FEMA is not an investigating branch of the government)
• Where did the original official version of the collapse come from? Who provided the back up support and where does he work? Why is the final official version not complete, yet the original version has not been disputed?
it dident melt the beams. nobody working there claimed it did, i doubt the sight remained hot for up to three weeks. the only thing that is that hot is a nuke. a building as big as the towers falling would deffinetly register on the seismec scale, seismology equipment is little more then glorified microphones.
it wasnt oxygen starved, there was a giant hole in the side of the building, as well as broken windows. your forgetting the fact that a plane traveling at 500 mph smashed into the things.
Instead of apologizing for the 911 report and making up excuses for anomalies - why not answer why the Bush admin is lying about 911? Got any questions or only stupid answers???
they arent lying, thats it very simply. all of your theorys can, and have, been disproven scientifically, and more important to me because im not a scientist, logically. they arent lying, they told you what they gained from it, there not hiding it. they exploited it, yes, but they dident cause it. the excecutive branch isnt that powerfull buddy. for what you say to be true the entire united states goverment, and every business related to it (every one in excistince) would have to be in on this.
Face it libs, face it cons... we are being lied to and conditioned on a mass scale by the controlled corporate media with these fear based terror campaigns. The mainstream media will not expose the crimes of the government and will even attack or attempt to discredit sites that expose them. (popular mechanics is a joke)
911 is being used as a pretext to up the police state in America and for war with innocent sovereign nations. Osama denied involvement in 911 (confession tape is fake). We bombed Afghanistan and Iraq based on inconclusive evidence.
confesion tape is fake? right, just deny evidence, it definetly works. i think you missed the part where i told you the only way that would work is if every single one of the thousand of people worldwide who work in some way with the goverment where in on it. wich is impossable. how would the goverment even get the idea out there, "hey you guys want money, where going to kill 3000 people!". right.
Ever heard of plausable deniabilty and spin control? How about secrecy??? Hmm? SECRECY has been perhaps the most consistent trait of the George W. Bush presidency.
ive heard of those things, except your idea on 9/11 is impossable. i dont want to bring up south park, but wach he episode where our buddy george talks about how he is responsable for 9/11. you sound like that.
That a former flight school executive believes the hijackers were "double agents," and says about Atta and associates, "Early on I gleaned that these guys had government protection. They were let into this country for a specific purpose," and was visited by the FBI just four hours after the attacks to intimidate him into silence, proves he's an unreliable witness
unless this guy has actuall documented proof i wouldnt trust him. but thats just me. how about the fact the hijackers had been to afghanistan befor the attacks? why would they volunteer for this? surely they knew they would die? your story makes no sense.
sploogersmoof, you have been on here for hours when you could have googled factual information. You cannot change the laws of physics by a political vote. Enough already.
what you consider "factual" information is a video made by some guy in a basement. im going to give you my mindset here, it dosint matter who is responsable for 9/11. the damage is done, where stuck, no going back. therefore you guys should understand who is responsible is not the question so much as where it led us. i never changed the laws of physics, i stated logic. your idea has none, and you guys innability to answer my question proves it.
sploogersmoof. DO NOT put words in my mouth. Basement? WTF? (Rhetorical) sploogersmoof, you are proving yourself to be nothing more than an Internet Troll.
i enjoy the status of troll. what did i say? i told you to answer my question in YOUR own words. youve been avoiding it, these other people at least had the decency to put up hole filled storys.
That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it is a small world, after all
That FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds accuses the agency of intentionally fudging specific pre-9/11 warnings and harboring a foreign espionage ring in its translation department, and claims she witnessed evidence of the semi-official infrastructure of money-laundering and narcotics trade behind the attacks, is of no account, since John Ashcroft has gagged her with the rare invocation of "State Secrets Privilege,"
That the FBI knew precisely which Florida flight schools to descend upon hours after the attacks should make every American feel safer knowing their federal agents are on the ball.
That multiple military wargames and simulations were underway the morning of 9/11 -- one simulating the crash of a plane into a building; another, a live-fly simulation of multiple hijackings -- and took many interceptors away from the eastern seaboard and confused field commanders as to which was a real hijacked aircraft and which was a hoax, was a bizarre coincidence, but no less a coincidence
It's true that George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 alone in the Oval Office, but what's wrong with old colleagues catching up? And it's true that George HW Bush and Shafig bin Laden, Osama's brother, spent the morning of September 11 together at a board meeting of the Carlyle Group, but the bin Ladens are a big family.
Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan's ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn't read anything about him in the official report.
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is.
That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history's little aberrations. But I would like to know exactly when he stopped working for us.
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama's brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just one of those things - one of those crazy things
im not asking why im asking how. and there are still many, many holes in your story. more then the 9/11 comissions. what about the planes. im sure the people who died on those planes relatives know they where going somewhere and dident come back. explain that? you cant, but ill let you try.
That Jonathan Bush's Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it's still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower."
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed.
SUPPORT MIKE GRAVEL - He is a true American Hero. A man of integrity and honor. He's a goddamn politician who speaks the TRUTH. I mean how can we let this opportunity go by? We must support this man.
mail cnn....tell anderson cooper to apologise for the unfair treatment of mike....tell him he should be ashmaed and that you are ashamed to watch cnn after this.....just type in 'contact cnn' in your search...and then send a mail to anderson 360.....we cannot let cnn get away with shit like this,
most trusted name my ass....most sold out name in news it should be
He he sad all tho it was different least you got one threw poor Dennis i think it is a image thing that holds him back that and the ever present bias in main stream media . I think Mr Copper got as much or more time in than YouTube users did just as i thought he would . But save Dennis & perhaps Gavel they are still pretty much all one of the same thing and thats not good enough me :(
Loose Change is mentioned if you look the thread. I appreciate your link but the fact is, everytime I dig deeper into one of these conspiracy docs I only find fabrications and deceit far clearer than what they claim to have as proof. Loose Change being the prime example. I don't have any more time for them until I see something peer reviewed from a reputable source.
OH and btw....I cant WAIT for Sept when Kucinich busts out what he knows about 9/11!!! *evil grin* I have an idea that its something about the missing $2 BILLION since he said its about financial...and they better HOPE its NOT about "Put options".
im going to give you the question i always use with you conspiracy nuts that always shuts you up. what was the actual plan? the procedure? the stratagy? how exactly did they pull this off? answer in your own words.
sploogersmoof, we question what happened. What was the actual plan? The procedure? The stratagy? How exactly did they pull this off? Glad to see you ask the same questions we do. Guess that makes you one of us. Good morning.
The Popular Mechanics article was debunked. No plane flew into WTC7. Never before in the history of the world has a building ever fallen down from a fire into its own footprint. It's steel core, 25 steel beams vaporized. Why was WTC7 left out of the 9/11 report?
tell me....im starting to get frustrated because you call me blind, yet you dont even know what happened. give me a reason to believe you, you have no logic, and every bit of 'proof' you have is a low quality video shot on a camera phone. tell me how they did it or shut the hell up!
look dude I only have 500 characters and obviously it would take a damn book for you to understand anyway. I believe in this old addage... carring on a conversation with a moron is as futil as carring a lantern before a blind man. Thank you very much.
dont write it on the comments section then. write me a message. the reason i dont believe you is very simply because you dont seem to understand how unrelisticly complicated it would be for them to pull something like this off. i dont want to bring up south park, but wach the episode that has george bush saying how he is responsible for 9/11. you people sound like that.
Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
sploogersmoof, Try studying physics. The Building fell at free fall speed. Don't state faux science, sploogersmoof. The reason this never happened before it goes against laws of physics to fall like that from a fire. This was the first and last time 3 buildings fell like that in all of history.
how did they do it? tell me? or is it you simply dont know? im not stating faux sciance. im stating fact. you people have contradicting ideas, werent the explosions you speak of at the base of the tower? you people alway say they were? are you a demolition expert because it takes ALLOT of explosive to take down a building that size.
What happened to the passengers on the plane which did not crash into the Pentagon?
MrSandykramer 7 months ago
Our government represents Big Business (including the Supreme Court). Maybe Kucinich and Gravel would represent us if they could get elected. But the media is corporately owned and little truth will ever get out
funster13 1 year ago
There is no question that 911 was an inside job. Which is the #1 reason not to ever for a Republican until the truth comes out and we acknowledge it. I don't see why the Democrats in power couldn't begin a real investigation. I'm still incomplete with the murders of the Kennedy's and King.
funster13 1 year ago
Truther or liar?
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ryanshaunkelly 2 years ago
Paul + Gravel Independant ticket would quietly crush these other parties.
dahudspy 3 years ago
mike gravel is a stand up dude, him along with ron paul and kucinich are the only ones that play the role nobody else want to "the truth tellers" and to the comments below suggesting a paul/gravel ticket that would be probably the best 4 or 8 years of our lives but it wont happen, the only one who has valid support is paul and they wont let him into all the debates, the best we can hope for is ron paul running as a ind.
nomad198126 4 years ago
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ron paul is a racist twit. He doesn't even deserve to be in the same room with Mike Gravel.
oldhacks 4 years ago
congratulations you have been subject to the media's propaganda about Paul, the racists slurs that were in the journals or w/e were NOT written by Paul and he had NO oversight of those
nomad198126 4 years ago 3
How about a Paul/Gravel ticket? RP supporters are all for it and look very positivly on Gravel.
devildogmre 4 years ago 6
MASS DONATION DAY for MIKE GRAVEL is 12/5!!!
Reasons you should consider donating, what he will do for the U.S. as President; Bring peace in the middle east, Bring the troops home in 120 days, Education paid for pre-school to scholarship, Empower the citizens as lawmakers, Eliminate the IRS & Income Tax, End the war on drugs, Universal healthcare for all, Bring equality for gay rights, etc.
Hear his plans at: youtubeDOTcom/gravel2008 & gravel2008DOTus
uterfan 4 years ago 4
Picture this: Ron Paul vs Mike Gravel 2008.
This would be an election!
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The fact is, Mike Gravel angered powerful people when he confronted Senator Clinton over Iran during last month's debate. Up to that moment the Clinton juggernaut was rolling over everyone. Now Mike is paying the price for speaking truth to power
uterfan 4 years ago
CNN says Mike Gravel must meet three criteria:
* Form a federal exploratory committee and officially declare his candidacy. (He did.)
* Poll at 1% or above. (He does.)
* Raise at least $1 million in individual contributions since January 1, 2007. (He has not.)
Once again, MONEY decides who gets to participate in America's political debates.
uterfan 4 years ago
They wouldn't want people to actually vote for someone they believe in! Instead they want to herd us into supporting their pre-selected, corrupt, corporate-backed choices.
Fresh on the heels of MSNBC's exclusion of Senator Mike Gravel from last week's Philadelphia debate, we now hear that CNN has cut the Senator from its November 15 debate in Las Vegas. Like MSNBC, CNN's justification comes down to one ugly factor: MONEY.
uterfan 4 years ago
i luv gravel
stand behind kucinich too
but they hav't been invited to a bilderburg meeting
desire4liberation 4 years ago
"Hell no"
goddamn. We need to get this man in office.
johncantees 4 years ago 2
Yeah, we don't know the whole truth about 9/11 but that doesn't imply that the government brought down the towers. Neither Gravel nor Ron Paul are that insane to believe that..
kakaokaka 4 years ago
I love Gravel.
There are a few decent candidates but sadly only the money owned facists get any coverage.
emire25 4 years ago 3
Gravel for President
Dawnincali 4 years ago
our country needs gravel as president
atmunit 4 years ago 2
I love Mike Gravel. :)
MustacheVerra 4 years ago 3
Ron Paul President/Gravel VP/Wesley Clark Sec. of Defense.
ronheri 4 years ago 4
whats that thing that benjamin franklin said? a country that would sacrifice a little liberty for a little security deserves neither. what happened to that.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
I really hope Americans vote for this guy, I mean if he was a politician here in Canada there is no doubt he would be prime minister.
Farooq87 4 years ago
Ron Paul "Absolutely Not" A Truther: Audio Interview
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Vektor417 4 years ago
Hey Vektor417,
Maybe I should go around and start bashing Gravel and Kucinich. Your an idiot! Ron Paul says in this interview that he supports a new 9/11 investigation. What's wrong with you? People support Ron Paul for many issues besides 9/11. Ron Paul will also help get to the root of the problem that causes 9/11 type events to happen. That's why most 9/11 truthers support Ron Paul. Ron Paul will also have a good chance at winning support from the general population.
1Raven4u 4 years ago
This just in....we have a 50 TRILLION Dollar deficit!
So...umm ron paul can eliminate taxes? bullshit.
Vektor417 4 years ago
Yes it's called GOLD STANDARD and putting the money where it belongs instead of in someones back pocket.
Do some homework. Get a basic understanding of the history of the Federal Reserve and the IRS and work back. Therein you should find helpful hints to the solution to that particular problem. Dr Paul has and he will implement those changes upon becoming President!
riceowlex 4 years ago
Isn't that why JFK got bumped off, trying to put us back on that one?
Good idea but we may be out of time to do it. There will be no change with NAU, another 911 or war with Iran before 2008!
Does RP support Kucinich's 911 hearings starting in September 2007?
RP's party blocked all hearings into activities of this administration they when they had majority. How can RP break ranks with his party as Prez?
mystykit 4 years ago
YAY
scurvy 4 years ago
Constitution + Ron Paul thats why alex jones could give two shits about gravel and his taxing mother fucking ass
Garbonzo07 4 years ago
@Garbonzo07
So only Ron Paul and his supporters are for the constituion, you are either with us or against us.
Yeah right no taxes, let the rich run rampant in America even more than the do already. They pay less than 1% tax now, make that 0% Vote Ron Paul!!
denialisimpotence 4 years ago
I don't understand why Alex Jones and the rest of the 'patriots' keep pushing Ron Paul. Gravel is totally a 9/11 truth candidate he's in the record about having a new investigation and he's even saying 'hell no we don't know the truth about 9/11'.
Ron Paul has dismissed 9/11 truth one too many times for my liking when questioned by the MSM.
denialisimpotence 4 years ago
That Gravel guy has balls, big balls. Guess we know which side he'll be on for the revolution.
cadigreen 4 years ago
XD Gravel is awesome.
GageS93 4 years ago
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Vektor417 4 years ago
-contd- 1. planes unexpectedly hit towers. 2. next day, in fact the same day, the identities of the hijackers with the magick passports are revealed, as well as their confirmed status on terrorism watchlists that were supposed to prevent this tradgedy 3. you swallow this blindly, wave the flag and surrender not just your rights but your prerogative to think critically. Grow up! - living in NY does not give you exclusive ownership of this national atrocity.
ihatem1cro5oft 4 years ago
to spooge-rag: you know shit. Giuliani who was on the 911 commission has yet to read the report! instead of asking for definitive proof, which you should damned well know as an NY'er, was cut into pieces, thrown onto barges and shipped to india and china for recycling ASAP, you should try to objectively examine how the whole thing unfolded.
ihatem1cro5oft 4 years ago
If you want straight talk there it is. I like Gravel but he's not quite as sharp as Ron Paul.
Wizard364 4 years ago
Hell no.
What a perfect answer.
Radacoin 4 years ago
Way to go Davis
rg321123 4 years ago
Right on Dennis! Keep on keeping on! I hope my wife gives me my cam back soon. lol
Love, Hope, Peace, & Christ Be With You,
Cal-el
CalJennings 4 years ago
mike gravel for president, people!!!
gravel08. us
inotheyare 4 years ago
i wa looking to see if someone noticed...thank you!
marcusjansen239369 4 years ago
Wow, such an exciting vibe. Hell, no! At least someone said it.
TheRealLadyDisdain 4 years ago
TRUThonesTRUTHellNO!
but the truth will come out!
BreaLoveARThopeace 4 years ago
the words of Bush himself.
"I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw
an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. And I
used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible
pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident," Bush.
-White House (12/04/01)
vrilian 4 years ago
"Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well,
first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this
plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And
you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that
anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was
wrong with the plane, or -- anyway," Bush. -White House
(01/05/02)
vrilian 4 years ago
There are many other quotes by Bush of this kind, all stating
that he saw video of the first plane hitting the World Trade
Center before entering the class room. Well now, what's wrong
with this picture? THERE WAS NO SUCH VIDEO AVAILABLE! That's
right! No video of the first plane hitting the WTC showed up on
television until hours afterward! What was Bush watching???
vrilian 4 years ago
im still curious what he was going to counter obama's im innocent comment with.
SushiSyogun 4 years ago
1. Marvin Bush ran the security firm for Twin Towers and canceled his contract a day before 9/11.
2. Bush didn't hide in Nebraska Bunker on 9/11. He had lunch with republican wall street CEOs, including Warren Buffett in Nebraska. Thus, his trip to NE was preplanned. So was saving the lives of many republican CEOs who would otherwise perish in the attack.
vrilian 4 years ago
3. James Baker and Osama Family members lunched together on 9/11 in the Carlyle Group meeting in D.C. three hours AFTER the attacks.
4. Put options against airlines placed in Brown brokerage under Mikhail Krongard, CIA buddy of Bush Sr.
5. Bush Admin wouldn't release cell phone company records, flight data records...
vrilian 4 years ago
6. CIA finds 'Attas passport' within a few hours of attack on WTC where steel, bone and concrete melted away.
7. Armed forces institute of pathology reports no Arabs in flight 77. (look in sierratimes dot com for fax pages from the institute).
8. Bush, Cheney, Rice refuse to testify before 9/11 panel that was appointed by them.
9. Enron, Arthur Andersen documents 'accidently got burnt' in 9/11 attack on WTC.
vrilian 4 years ago
im not asking why, im asking how. how did they keep it covered up from the world and the rest of congress. the excecutive branch isnt all powerful, think about it, every single member of every single branch of the goverment along with every single corporate ceo and every single member of the millitary and every single member of the news would have to be in on this. as well as the hijackers, and the taliban, and al quida. that makes no sense.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
You obviously don't know anything about gag orders, need-to-know ops, top secret commands, threats to family members, SECRETS THAT DON'T GET LEAKED, etc.
vrilian 4 years ago
so the goverment killed and threatend millions of people worldwide? that would have leaked out, face it, its impssable for the goverment to cover this up. something would have gotten out. face it, your intire argument is without logic, or reason. you still havnt answerd my question as to how they did it.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
A new investigation needs to be conducted with impartial results exposing the truth - THEN we will know more than we do now. I have questions - where are the answers? OPEN UP NEW INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE TRUTH!
vrilian 4 years ago
listen, your version of events is impossable. bush knew something was going to happen, and thats it. he dident know when,who, or what was going to happen. just something, and as a result the idiot disregarded the warning. dosint mean hes responsable for it.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
It's been said that the first casualty of war is always truth. But with the Bush administration's war on terrorism, it's hard to know, because even before 9/11 the administration had begun hermetically sealing formerly public sources of government information.
vrilian 4 years ago
A month before the attack, in his Aug. 6 daily intelligence briefing, Bush was "told that morning of the al-Qaida terror network's interest in conducting a strike within the U.S., and that it might involve highjacked airplanes," reports the Wall Street Journal (7/24/03.)......
vrilian 4 years ago
Perhaps the Bushies had a reason for ignoring the warnings. Something brushed over in the Congressional 9/11 report suggests the possibility of one of the worst conspiracies of American history.
PNAC, Project for the New American Century members of PNAC included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush and Paul Wolfowitz, a director of the organization.
vrilian 4 years ago
All signed a statement of principles, one of which was to promote "American global leadership" with special emphasis on Arab countries. Another was to "transform" the U.S. military with huge increases in defense spending.
Here's the chilling kicker: To convince the American people to spend extra billions for defense instead of on Social Security, Medicare, etc., PNAC suggested it would take a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." (PNAC's exact words.)
vrilian 4 years ago
still, dosint prove hes respnsable. he exploited it, dosint mean he did it.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Michael Meacher, Minister in UK
"...the war on terrorism is a smokescreen and that the US knew in advance about the September 11 attack on New York but, for strategic reasons, chose not to act on the warnings."
vrilian 4 years ago
Simply stated, Why!? Why when our nation is under attack, the
Commander and Chief of a Nation does nothing? The record shows
that Bush Knew for at least a full hour that these planes had
been hijacked, that they were flying into buildings in both New
York and Washington DC, yet issued no orders to defend our air
space, or stop the attacks until it was already over.
vrilian 4 years ago
The big question is: Why was nothing done to stop them? This
administration had plenty of advance warning that such attacks
were going to occur, with FEMA even practicing for exactly this
same scenario, and were already stationed in New York the day
before 9-11 happened, while four hijacked plans were flying
right over various Air Force bases, yet not a single plane was
sent up to intercept them until it was all over?
vrilian 4 years ago
Corporate Media tells us that only the President could order
jets to scramble to defend our air space (which is untrue by the
way!) yet what does Bush do? He continues on to his photo op at
a Florida grade school, sits around through a reading lesson,
even taking questions from children, when he SHOULD have been
directing our National Defense!
vrilian 4 years ago
Heck, even the Secret Service drops the ball here! They are
responsible for the President's safety, and with America under
attack, should have physically picked him up and hauled him out
of there (like they did with Dick Cheney) regardless of his own
personal wishes. Neither NORAD, the FAA, the Air National Guard,
or President Bush did anything until it the planes had already
crashed, and by then it was far too late!
vrilian 4 years ago
The Conclusion: Bush Knew. The time-line shows he certainly knew
these planes had been hijacked before he arrived, but issued no
orders to stop them beforehand. Also, if we are to believe Bush
didn't already know where these multiple hijacked planes were
going to impact, why was he allowed to sit reading stories in an
unprotected grade school full of children, endangering not only
his own life, but theirs as well?
vrilian 4 years ago
The more one carefully deconstructs the official time-line, the
less it makes sense... unless of course, BUSH KNEW!!!
Bush Knew ~ And the real questions still remain unanswered.
takebackthemedia com true911 html
(Check out this Flash Animation Page)
vrilian 4 years ago
what was he supposed to do? say "sorry kids, our lives are all in danger" then go hide in a bunker? how would he explain that? look at the video of him reading, he spends a good 20-30 seconds thinking what he should do.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Or trying to remember what he rehearsed and MUSTN'T do - more like!
vrilian 4 years ago
First, he should have stood up, thanked the kids for their time and politely excused himself from the classroom and told the teacher to please continue reading. There is no need to tell the kids what is happening- they were sure to find out in the next hour or two anyway.
vrilian 4 years ago
Hey, you, uh, think you might be abusing the board a bit by bombarding it with so many messages back-to-back? ...
Commando303X 4 years ago
Why are the Presidential candidates not talking about Bush making it illegal to protest the Iraq war as of July 17?
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
Check out sploogersmoof channel. He's a little boy who happens to be an Internet Troll.
An Internet troll is someone who intentionally posts messages about sensitive topics constructed to cause controversy in an online community such as an online discussion forum or USENET groups in order to bait users into responding. They may also plant images and data on networks that others may find disturbing in order to cause confrontation.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
Agreed. He's not the issue though and in fact he becomes a catalyst for more posts by awakened alarmists revealing the soft underbelly of this corrupt US government.
vrilian 4 years ago
Why is Rosie O'Donnell the only one in the public eye taling about this and Bush Outlawing All War Protest In United States In one of his most chilling moves to date against his own citizens, the American War Leader has issued a sweeping order this week outlawing all forms of protest against the Iraq war? President Bush enacted into US law an 'Executive Order' on July 17th titled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
rosiedotcom
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
im pretty sure your still allowed to protest the iraq war. your forgetting rosie o'donnel is an idiot also. george bush dosint make laws, and congress is majorily against the war sooooo, yhea he dident outlaw orotest. i would have heard something. who even listens to rosie? all she does is bich about pointless things. "oh no, he dick wich sounds close to dike! i think ill bitch for years about it!". your not vouching for your intelligence here.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
whitehouse. gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
my paragraph about rosie had some mistakes(highly ironic) protest* and "he said dick, wich sounds close to dike"*
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
And this past week we have watched as our President ordered private citizens not to testify before Congress for fear of the truth being revealed. For this we must demand Impeachment.
Impeachment is not a crisis but a remedy. It was the means by which our Founding Fathers desired us as a people and a nation to hold onto our principles and to keep the genius of the balance of 3 branches of government.
vrilian 4 years ago
true, we should impeach bush. but not for the reasons your stating. and if what you think is true then we should probably get rid of every single person in the goverment.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Regarding secrecy in the GWBush admin - perhaps the most egregious example occurred on Nov. 1, 2001, when President Bush signed Executive Order 13233, under which a former president's private papers can be released only with the approval of both that former president (or his heirs) and the current one.
vrilian 4 years ago
im sure that will be overturned by the supreme court withen the next few years because it violates the freedom of information act, and could even be said to violate freedom of speech. so i wouldnt worry.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Scalia's dissent gives 'signing statements' more heft
July 15, 2006 google it! You mean THAT supreme court?
vrilian 4 years ago
no, i just like arguing. i dont plant images and data on networks that some may find disturbing, i just bring up talking points because im bored. isnt that why this website was created? to combat boredom? i have no life, what else am i to do.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
WHY 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
PENTAGON
• Why wasn't there any plane debris or burnt lawn at the scene of the crash?
• Why was the hole only 16' in diameter when a 737 is 26' in diameter.
• Why didn't the impact marks on the building account for the two engines?
• Why was the security camera in the gas station aiming at the Pentagon confiscated by the FBI only five minutes after the "crash"?
• Why was water sprayed on a jet fuel fire and not foam?
vrilian 4 years ago
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL
• Why weren't any military jets scramble when the flights went off course?
• Why were the flights unaccounted for and now on FAA radar?
• Why were there War Game using the scenario of a domestic flight being hijacked and flown into buildings occurring the day before and the morning of 9/11?
• What is Global Hawk and when did it become operational? What affiliation did the four Raytheon engineers onboard the 9/11 flights have with Global Hawk?
vrilian 4 years ago
during said attack they had very little idea what was going on. it took them about a week to figure it out completly. the flights were acounted for, go ask the familys of those who died on th planes.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Last fall, Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E. Jones made headlines when he charged that the World Trade Center collapsed because of "pre-positioned explosives." Now, along with a group that calls itself "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," he's upping the ante.
vrilian 4 years ago
"We believe that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11," the group says in a statement released Friday announcing its formation. "We believe these events may have been orchestrated by the administration in order to manipulate the American people into supporting policies at home and abroad."
vrilian 4 years ago
im sure they loved the amount of support it got them, but they sure as hell dident cause it. it is litterly IMPOSSABLE!!!! do i need to tell you why again?
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Your answers are obfuscations that lack any thing more than faith in your government. Over 53% of the US population polled say they believe the government is lying to them about 911. OPEN UP A NEW INVESTIGATION, NOW!!!
vrilian 4 years ago
believe me when i say i definetly do NOT have faith in my goverment. im being honest, wich implies me to say that this idea you have is illogical and extremely stupid. nothing you say will ever change that. i dont care about statistics, why would i?
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
go look up demolition videos, then wach one of 9/11. there is no resemblance, and most importantly, A GOD DAMN PLANE!!!
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
sploogersmoof, then why not ask me. I lost a loved friend. I am a NYer. I lived it.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
WTC COLLAPSE
• Why did the concrete create pulverized dust and not just crumble with a "gravitational" collapse?
• Where was the large pile on concrete rubble from the "gravitational collapse"?
• Why was the dust on the ground around the building symmetrical?
• What created the kinetic energy to pulverize concrete at the beginning of the "gravitational" collapse?
• Where happened to the angular momentum of the top section on the South tower after it began to "tip over"?
vrilian 4 years ago
• How did the concrete poured steel reinforced core fail if the floors pancaked onto themselves?
• How did an oxygen starved, low temperature fire created enough heat to elongate the steel beams to induce a buckling load to cause the attachment joints to fail?
• What caused the external forces to eject the debris outward up to 500' beyond the foot print of the building?
vrilian 4 years ago
• What created the intense heat to melt 4 inch steel beams 70 feet below the ground and retain the heat for up to three weeks?
• Who ran security at the WTC buildings?
• Why did the building fall at free fall velocities?
• What caused the two seismic spikes registered 20 miles from ground zero?
• Why was all the evidence of the collapse taken off site and sent over seas?
vrilian 4 years ago
• Controlled Demolition Inc was awarded the contract to clean up ground zero. What other clean-up projects were they awarded?
• Why has there not been an investigation of 9/11 by anyone other that FEMA? (note FEMA is not an investigating branch of the government)
• Where did the original official version of the collapse come from? Who provided the back up support and where does he work? Why is the final official version not complete, yet the original version has not been disputed?
vrilian 4 years ago
WTC 7
• What caused the collapse of WTC 7?
• What was stored in WTC 7?
• Who owned WTC 7, when did he acquire it and how much does he stand to profit from the insurance claims?
vrilian 4 years ago
"Floor by floor it started popping out."
"It was if they had detonators and they planned to take down a building."
See whatreallyhappened dot com for answers...
vrilian 4 years ago
it dident melt the beams. nobody working there claimed it did, i doubt the sight remained hot for up to three weeks. the only thing that is that hot is a nuke. a building as big as the towers falling would deffinetly register on the seismec scale, seismology equipment is little more then glorified microphones.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
it wasnt oxygen starved, there was a giant hole in the side of the building, as well as broken windows. your forgetting the fact that a plane traveling at 500 mph smashed into the things.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Instead of apologizing for the 911 report and making up excuses for anomalies - why not answer why the Bush admin is lying about 911? Got any questions or only stupid answers???
vrilian 4 years ago
they arent lying, thats it very simply. all of your theorys can, and have, been disproven scientifically, and more important to me because im not a scientist, logically. they arent lying, they told you what they gained from it, there not hiding it. they exploited it, yes, but they dident cause it. the excecutive branch isnt that powerfull buddy. for what you say to be true the entire united states goverment, and every business related to it (every one in excistince) would have to be in on this.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Face it libs, face it cons... we are being lied to and conditioned on a mass scale by the controlled corporate media with these fear based terror campaigns. The mainstream media will not expose the crimes of the government and will even attack or attempt to discredit sites that expose them. (popular mechanics is a joke)
vrilian 4 years ago
lied to, no, we are just getting a higly twisted version of the truth. no actuall lying on the media side of things.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
911 is being used as a pretext to up the police state in America and for war with innocent sovereign nations. Osama denied involvement in 911 (confession tape is fake). We bombed Afghanistan and Iraq based on inconclusive evidence.
vrilian 4 years ago
they built the WTC towers with explosive built into it I believe...WTC towers were built to be taken down...they planned this for decades...
theredpill99 4 years ago
confesion tape is fake? right, just deny evidence, it definetly works. i think you missed the part where i told you the only way that would work is if every single one of the thousand of people worldwide who work in some way with the goverment where in on it. wich is impossable. how would the goverment even get the idea out there, "hey you guys want money, where going to kill 3000 people!". right.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Ever heard of plausable deniabilty and spin control? How about secrecy??? Hmm? SECRECY has been perhaps the most consistent trait of the George W. Bush presidency.
vrilian 4 years ago
ive heard of those things, except your idea on 9/11 is impossable. i dont want to bring up south park, but wach he episode where our buddy george talks about how he is responsable for 9/11. you sound like that.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
That a former flight school executive believes the hijackers were "double agents," and says about Atta and associates, "Early on I gleaned that these guys had government protection. They were let into this country for a specific purpose," and was visited by the FBI just four hours after the attacks to intimidate him into silence, proves he's an unreliable witness
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
unless this guy has actuall documented proof i wouldnt trust him. but thats just me. how about the fact the hijackers had been to afghanistan befor the attacks? why would they volunteer for this? surely they knew they would die? your story makes no sense.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
sploogersmoof, you have been on here for hours when you could have googled factual information. You cannot change the laws of physics by a political vote. Enough already.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
what you consider "factual" information is a video made by some guy in a basement. im going to give you my mindset here, it dosint matter who is responsable for 9/11. the damage is done, where stuck, no going back. therefore you guys should understand who is responsible is not the question so much as where it led us. i never changed the laws of physics, i stated logic. your idea has none, and you guys innability to answer my question proves it.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
sploogersmoof. DO NOT put words in my mouth. Basement? WTF? (Rhetorical) sploogersmoof, you are proving yourself to be nothing more than an Internet Troll.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
i enjoy the status of troll. what did i say? i told you to answer my question in YOUR own words. youve been avoiding it, these other people at least had the decency to put up hole filled storys.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it is a small world, after all
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
That the White House went on Cipro September 11 shows the foresightedness of America's emergency response.
That the anthrax was mailed to perceived liberal media and the Democratic leadership demonstrates only the perversity of the terrorist psyche.
That the anthrax attacks appeared to silence opponents of the Patriot Act shows only that appearances can be deceiving.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
That FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds accuses the agency of intentionally fudging specific pre-9/11 warnings and harboring a foreign espionage ring in its translation department, and claims she witnessed evidence of the semi-official infrastructure of money-laundering and narcotics trade behind the attacks, is of no account, since John Ashcroft has gagged her with the rare invocation of "State Secrets Privilege,"
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
That the FBI knew precisely which Florida flight schools to descend upon hours after the attacks should make every American feel safer knowing their federal agents are on the ball.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
That multiple military wargames and simulations were underway the morning of 9/11 -- one simulating the crash of a plane into a building; another, a live-fly simulation of multiple hijackings -- and took many interceptors away from the eastern seaboard and confused field commanders as to which was a real hijacked aircraft and which was a hoax, was a bizarre coincidence, but no less a coincidence
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
It's true that George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 alone in the Oval Office, but what's wrong with old colleagues catching up? And it's true that George HW Bush and Shafig bin Laden, Osama's brother, spent the morning of September 11 together at a board meeting of the Carlyle Group, but the bin Ladens are a big family.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan's ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn't read anything about him in the official report.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is.
That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history's little aberrations. But I would like to know exactly when he stopped working for us.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama's brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just one of those things - one of those crazy things
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
im not asking why im asking how. and there are still many, many holes in your story. more then the 9/11 comissions. what about the planes. im sure the people who died on those planes relatives know they where going somewhere and dident come back. explain that? you cant, but ill let you try.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
That Jonathan Bush's Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it's still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower."
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed.
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
SUPPORT MIKE GRAVEL - He is a true American Hero. A man of integrity and honor. He's a goddamn politician who speaks the TRUTH. I mean how can we let this opportunity go by? We must support this man.
weirdbizdotcom 4 years ago
mail cnn....tell anderson cooper to apologise for the unfair treatment of mike....tell him he should be ashmaed and that you are ashamed to watch cnn after this.....just type in 'contact cnn' in your search...and then send a mail to anderson 360.....we cannot let cnn get away with shit like this,
most trusted name my ass....most sold out name in news it should be
mikegravelishope 4 years ago
Great clip! Thanks for going out so we can stay in!
. . . wait, that's not how it goes. ;)
MaverickToro 4 years ago
Why must he wait to be president to speak out about 9/11. I don't want another puss for a president.
RON PAUL '08'
sm0ky40 4 years ago
I think you misunderstood, there is NOTHING he can do til then.
blue4eyes20 4 years ago
ummm...I think he just did....
Spaghettaboutit 4 years ago
He he sad all tho it was different least you got one threw poor Dennis i think it is a image thing that holds him back that and the ever present bias in main stream media . I think Mr Copper got as much or more time in than YouTube users did just as i thought he would . But save Dennis & perhaps Gavel they are still pretty much all one of the same thing and thats not good enough me :(
t1r2b3 4 years ago
Loose Change is stuffed with factual errors. Don't just get your information from sources the reinforce your opinions.
godot13 4 years ago
I didn't hear anyone mention "Loose Change. Take a look at this video.
video*google*com/videoplay?docid=1921357139285191482
replace the * with a period.
Peace.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
This video is highly recommended:
shoes4industry*blogspot*com/
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
Loose Change is mentioned if you look the thread. I appreciate your link but the fact is, everytime I dig deeper into one of these conspiracy docs I only find fabrications and deceit far clearer than what they claim to have as proof. Loose Change being the prime example. I don't have any more time for them until I see something peer reviewed from a reputable source.
godot13 4 years ago
godot13, Open your mind. Take the time. This video is worth it.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
Yeah. I wonder if they are saving the 911 questions for the republican debates.
againat5 4 years ago
"Hell No." thats says it all...waitng for ripples
1mcsource 4 years ago
OH and btw....I cant WAIT for Sept when Kucinich busts out what he knows about 9/11!!! *evil grin* I have an idea that its something about the missing $2 BILLION since he said its about financial...and they better HOPE its NOT about "Put options".
lenaw70 4 years ago
you go out so I can stay in?
statictwo 4 years ago
statict: right, he is the hermit in the cave, what about this you don't get?
maggothon 4 years ago
Great job Davis! Gravel and Kucinich for 2008!
lenaw70 4 years ago
i dont think the goverment is hiding who did it, just what they gained from it.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Then u are very blind!! Sorry to say that but the government relies on people just like you.
blue4eyes20 4 years ago
im going to give you the question i always use with you conspiracy nuts that always shuts you up. what was the actual plan? the procedure? the stratagy? how exactly did they pull this off? answer in your own words.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
sploogersmoof, we question what happened. What was the actual plan? The procedure? The stratagy? How exactly did they pull this off? Glad to see you ask the same questions we do. Guess that makes you one of us. Good morning.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
they told you what happened. a couple pissed off muslims flew some planes into the things. im asking what YOU think happened.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
The Popular Mechanics article was debunked. No plane flew into WTC7. Never before in the history of the world has a building ever fallen down from a fire into its own footprint. It's steel core, 25 steel beams vaporized. Why was WTC7 left out of the 9/11 report?
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
the bolts got weakened by the fire, chemistry 101. how did they do it? humor me. at least i have a story that makes sense.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
ok watch the movie and then talk to me (WTC own engineers are on this movie. So again I say watch it then talk to me. zeitgeistmovie com
blue4eyes20 4 years ago
tell me in your own fucking words! i dont care about your crappy movies, i cant get through them without laughing anyway.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
wow hostile are we LOL I don't have to why don't you hear it from the experts. Or are you afraid they may be right, that is your problem.
blue4eyes20 4 years ago
tell me....im starting to get frustrated because you call me blind, yet you dont even know what happened. give me a reason to believe you, you have no logic, and every bit of 'proof' you have is a low quality video shot on a camera phone. tell me how they did it or shut the hell up!
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
look dude I only have 500 characters and obviously it would take a damn book for you to understand anyway. I believe in this old addage... carring on a conversation with a moron is as futil as carring a lantern before a blind man. Thank you very much.
blue4eyes20 4 years ago
dont write it on the comments section then. write me a message. the reason i dont believe you is very simply because you dont seem to understand how unrelisticly complicated it would be for them to pull something like this off. i dont want to bring up south park, but wach the episode that has george bush saying how he is responsible for 9/11. you people sound like that.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
911REICHSTAG 4 years ago
sploogersmoof, Try studying physics. The Building fell at free fall speed. Don't state faux science, sploogersmoof. The reason this never happened before it goes against laws of physics to fall like that from a fire. This was the first and last time 3 buildings fell like that in all of history.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
how did they do it? tell me? or is it you simply dont know? im not stating faux sciance. im stating fact. you people have contradicting ideas, werent the explosions you speak of at the base of the tower? you people alway say they were? are you a demolition expert because it takes ALLOT of explosive to take down a building that size.
sploogersmoof 4 years ago
lucky man someone is good friends with steve grove
TheoVanDerDeer 4 years ago
Good work Davis, thanks, and a extra large thanks to Mike Gravel. Kuccinich, Gravel. and Ron Paul make me feel like there is still hope.....5 stars
kewpiesbadhairday 4 years ago
More Interviews like that one That was REAL ! I really liked that .
nohealthcare62 4 years ago
Ok Davis there you are in the middle of it all!
Good Job
Sparkles
SparklestheClown 4 years ago
Thank you for asking the suits about the 800 lb. gorilla sitting ..ooh, right over there next to JFK's rotting corpse.
DoctorMetropolis 4 years ago
bin Laden isn't even wanted for 9/11. Its not mentioned on his wanted poster and it hasn't been updated since November 2001.