Oren Lyons: Value Change for Survival ECU#574

[manysons]

Share this to facebook if you CARE.

[inpisweat]

turtle winds firewalker cherokee medizinmann very good

[kcornsilk]

Oren Lyons is a sell out of his own people. Most of his people Do not consider him their Chief. Check out some of the videos right here on utube.

[soundsdreamy]

@kcornsilk throw a link up for everyone to see.

[MultiMudskipper]

Extinction is a natural cycle as well and we are in the middle of the sixth largest the world has known. Google it.

[tomludwig1]

the great battle is to break the u.s. regime that supports the corporations that manufacture chemicals that we allow to exist and pollute and are destroying the planet. we now allow the goverment to create wars in order to fuel the economy rather than dealing with the crisis of pollution. it will take wealth to combat the wealthy giants here in the u.s. we have only prospered through plundering. time for washington leaders to wake up

[soundsdreamy]

@tomludwig1 its the other way around--the corporations are running the government.

[Ironhearted02]

this guy is the nearest thing to a prophet in our current times, you only have to listen to the way in which he speaks, he is a man of great understanding and insight.

[claymoreman90]

Big Chief blow big wind through fartpipe.

[archibird]

Brilliant, thank you. Wishing you well as you continue on your path. Blessings to you.

[Agui007]

There's one thing we need to realise, the elite powers of this world have most definitely the ability to manipulate the weather with much technology unknown to many people. It ranges from chemtrails to HAARP, scalar technology and many others. The powers of the world don't want a free thinking society of people or harmonic balance, it's makes it harder for us to be controlled. Al Gore is fraudulent and is nothing more than a puppet of the elite.

[wheelori814]

man, i really like Oren and the knowledge he has shared, but come on, this global warming stuff is a natural cycle!!! Oren has been brainwashed like most americans (and every other country ruled by the illuminati and freemasons). Stick with what your elders taught you and stop listening to scientist!!!

[Agui007]

@wheelori814 Indeed, as there are weapons such as scalar technology and HAARP being used. Does anyone really believe Al Gore about global warming and let's face it, politicians lie their assests off.

[foxjr83]

Sounds like the ice age.

[puchuks]

These are great people who try to do and say something!!! And Oren Lyons is one of them who you want to listen to...

[featherproject]

"Value Change for Survival - If we don't change our values, we are not going to survive. Period!" Thanks so much for pointing this out!!! - I mean, just imagine if some leaders at BP would have considered their responsiblity for the 7th generation when they drilled this hole into the gulf, don't you think this could have made a difference???

[jesse2076]

what a sell out he sound like a New World Order bitch

[syndrah]

@jesse2076 and you sound like an alex jones bitch.

[tormenter012]

so he's from the turtle clan of the onandaga nation. that's cool i'm of the thunderbird clan of the cherokee nation :D

[qualqui]

Tonantzin is gettin' sick, and Ehecatl will be helpin' cool her off, but with increased winds,.....help will come at a COST! 5/5 and tlaskamati for sharin' ! =)

[Venengel]

you dont have to listen to him. I do..

[6Nations4life]

it is the Tribal council that is to blame for all the problems of the Onondaga nation along with any Indian nation in Canada and the USA because the Tribal council is not our ways.

reinstate the Traditional System and all Indian nations will change to the way we are suppose to.

tribal councils are run by the American and Canadian governments they are paid by the governments.

and if you go by our true ways of the Haudenosuanee people Oren is Onondaga.

Seneca Nation

Haudenosaunee

[petrus4]

@6Nations4life That sounds like a good idea. We should probably look at re-instituting a system which doesn't involuntarily sodomise the rest of us, for the sake of giant corporations, while we're at it. Maybe you can offer us some guidance...The Iriquois Constitution looked cool. ;)

[Depshado]

nothing looks the same under a microscope

[Funkyndn]

News Flash People! This Coward is "grade A" quality con artist material! It will be a great day when this Apple is put in the ground! He is not even Onondaga nor is he a chief. Oren's word are poison and knows nothing of what he speaks. I have seen this cowards evil first hand! Atleast there are two other people who can attest to this cowards Hypocrisy MoHAWK0001 and Ongwehonweh know whats really going on.

[qualqui]

this comes as a surprise to me,....you recommend i google or wiki Tata Oren?

[tobiasminder73]

truth hurts

[thejudicialbranch9]

nT is the nominal value of aggregate transactions/velocity of money/ The nominal/real value distinction can apply not only to time-series data, but to cross-section data varying by region or householder characteristics. Nominal values are related to prices & quantities (P and Q) and to real values by the following definitions: nominal value = P•Q = P•real value. º Ordinal indicator, the sign adjacent to a numeral denoting that it is an ordinal number not confused w/ degree symbol °

[slidebargirl]

Y'a know...for a the trashing of Oren, he's still one of the greatest elloquent speaker/ messengers of our time,whose voice reaches on a global level! With all the unfortunate happenings at home,tat info needs to stay at home. Airing out the dirty laundry does nothing but look stupid, especially when it's hanging out on your line. Use you good mind and tell something of good value..aye?

[qualqui]

you know slidebargirl, this is what i don't understand, Tata Oren seems like a wise, civilized man and yet so many others trash him, nobody is perfect, we are all human, know anything why they trash him?

[sergejsh]

qualqui - I think this is because some people don't want to hear that Global Warming is real. So if somebody says it is real, they trash him.

[commonthread2]

I was brought up urban country Indian I think digging into the pockets of the CEOS might be a risky way for any Native to route their way into culture.My Dad would use Political means and the Creator to save the land he did that with the parks in our area cause he saw development coming in a dream . Dad saved small parcels of land for the sake of the salmon run he was a good Cree .

[tobiasminder73]

nuting but the truth! peace n love for Oren Lyons: Value Change for Survival!

[Iroquoishawk]

EXILED IN THE LAND OF THE FREE

pg. 242

For both military and philosophical reasons, Hendrick should be considered one of the Founding Fathers of the United States.

[ongwehonweh]

I lived at Onondaga, seen first hand what went on. This Bastard with others called in police on Rez, burned down businesses that dared to question the totalitarian rule of non-Onondaga Council of Thiefs. My family alone gave them so-called Chiefs $3 million from cigarette and gas sales. When businesses wanted accountability for People's money, they claimed they weren't accountable to the People. Businesses stopped paying and put money directly to People. Thiefs shut down businesses.

[ongwehonweh]

Thiefs claim selling out Tradition by selling cigarettes, then Thiefs open up there own shop after taking everyone else out of business. May 18, 1997 they called in NYS Troopers to assault People of Confederacy. Women, Children beaten and arrested. Do search on it. Oh yeah, Oren and his entourage of clowns talk a good talk, very convincing, but full of $hit. Their GOON (Guardians of Onondaga Nation) patrol rape women with impunity, assault people. If you're not in the click you go to jail.

[MoHAWK0001]

you are totally correct! but of course people here won't believe you because oren is soooooo super spiritual he would never do something like that! he almost sounds convincing when theres a camera around.

[iloveblago]

Very true. The leaders of the Onondaga Nation are just as much to blame for its problems as New York State is.

[ongwehonweh]

This guy is full of $hit. Oral Liar, some call Oren Lyons he is Seneca not Onondaga. The Thiefs, some call chiefs at so-called Onondaga Nation sold the People out long time ago. Onondaga Nation became U.S. Federal corporation under U.S. Federal law to gain U.S. Federal recognition. All tribes/nations must incorporate to gain State or Federal recognition. Onondaga Thiefs called in New York State Troopers and Onondaga County Sheriff on the People. He is Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker, fraud.

[commonthread2]

are you native ??where are you from and how do you think he is a fraud?I am just wondering?

[MoHAWK0001]

his name is onkwehonwe...original people. something oren can't call himself anymore. he stopped being onkwehonwe a long time ago.

[voiceofthegrandstand]

The first and most important value change to be made is in the heart. The heart where love resides has different values. Only when we all love each other as one human race, seeing the planet as one common homeland, caring for and cooperating with one another as one loving family, will we find ideal, real, solutions for the problems we are facing. They are caused from within each of us. Thus, before desirable outer results can be achieved, effective change must be made from within.

[voiceofthegrandstand]

There may be another reason for all this global warming and change. In the late 19th century, Baha'u'llah, the Founder of the Baha'i Faith wrote, "The world's equilibrium hath been upset through the vibrating influence of this most great, this new World Order. Mankind's ordered life hath been revolutionized through the agency of this unique, this wondrous System, the like of which mortal eyes have never witnessed."

continued...

[voiceofthegrandstand]

Although Baha'u'llah was arrested, exiled, tortured and imprisoned for 40 years until His passing in 1892, we are now seeing the truth of His Words in the physical world. The prophecies of all the peoples of the world are now being fulfilled.

continued...

[voiceofthegrandstand]

In a Tablet addressed to Baha'is in the northern climes in 1916, Abdu'l-Baha, the Son of Baha'u'llah, said, "Should the fire of the love of God be kindled in Greenland, all the ice of that country will be melted, and its cold weather become temperate - that is, if the hearts be touched with the heat of the love of God, that territory will become a divine rose garden and a heavenly paradise, and the souls, even as fruitful trees, will acquire the utmost freshness and beauty." The time is now.

[OssieBlonde]

Seems to me (and it is only my opinion) you are more hateful of him because he chose to turn his back on being Seneca than any lie or evilness about him. Could this be why he left and chose to be Onondaga? He wishes to teach peace and a peaceful way, you are full of hate, hatred is the evil here, not whom you wish to associate with. I feel you need meditation to help find peace within Funyndn, I hope you find it.

[ongwehonweh]

You know teaching peaceful ways and living them are two different things. Treason to the People is why most people hate Oren, although there are few Women with different motives such as revenge. But I'm not Woman so, Treason to People is tops on my list.

[WildOakLady]

So, youre living in Akwesasne? Do you think the same way of Tom Porter? I met both him and Oren a couple of weeks ago...in the same place. It feels like youre trying too hard, to discredit a great man...but thats what often happens I guess, when someone sticks his head out and stands on his principles. I guess also that leadership sometimes require uncomfortable desicions that everyone isnt going to agree with.

[ongwehonweh]

Can't tell you about Tom Porter, only met him once. I've heard others say stuff about him but I can't honestly say. On other hand, I am fully aware of Oren Lyons' activities,especially since he is my 2nd cousin. Oren doesn't stick his head out unless its to give his BS renditions of the Great Law. Problem is most of you and even many Onkwehonwe have little or no knowledge of the Law. Leaders are not to make decisions on their own, it is by unanimous decision of the People.

[ongwehonweh]

you don't chose to not be Seneca and then chose to be Onondaga, don't work that way. It may work for corporate States (non-Nations)like United States, Canada or Australia but not with real Nations. You especially can't adopt someone that is already in the family. When you've lived at Onondaga like I have, you would see what this guy and others with him have done.

[MoHAWK0001]

hen! i don't live on onondaga but i've seen whats been done. here's a fun game..drive down the rez main road and play "guess which house belongs to a council member"! lots of fun...aaaaaye.

[Funkyndn]

Lying Oren at his best! For those of you who don't know this man he is Grade A top quality Con Man. Oren's Hypocrisy is well known amongst the Six Nations. As a Full blooded Senecea I have seen with my own eyes the evil of this man. First and foremost Oren is not even Ononadaga. He is Seneca! He had himself taken from the rolls and put on Onondaga rolls a man with No nation. He doesnt belong anywhere. Once again he has gotten to this place because we have allowed him. This man is EVIL.

[Olster81]

he doesnt belong anywhere? how so? how has he conned people and how is he evil? and even if what you are saying is true - how is what he says in the hopi prophecy videos not true? it sounded like a sincere set of spiritual message to me

[ongwehonweh]

Lot of people were conned by Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Jim Jones cause "it sounded like a sincere set of spiritual message" to them too. Not saying actual message is not true, just saying messenger is not TRUE.

[LordRama77]

This funky character must be a zionazi. Only zionazis are sick enough to say such terrible things about a Great person like Chief Oren Lyons. Peace.

[marisiriella]

i agree... but oren is not, nor has ever been, a chief. many make that mistake. he is a Haudenosaunee Faithkeeper.

[MoHAWK0001]

he just plays a chief on tv.

[ongwehonweh]

Do you even know the man? Or just happened to shake his hand and now you're a disciple.

[ongwehonweh]

Oren works with the zionist, what are you talking about?

[Naej27]

Thank you Chief Oren Lyons. What s wonderful video you have posted. I would like to hear more!

[tenzing9]

Oren Lyons is one of our great ones. Good to see his face after so many years. For those who want to read about the Native American roots of the founding documents of the United States, I highly recommend the book mentioned at the start, Exiled in the Land of the Free (Clear Light Publishers); not sure it's still in print.

[zyx645]

Very good, this would make a good response to those who dont understand the cascade effect on the Earths ability to regulate. heating is a cooling process. like Oren says we can choose intelligent thought...

[heatherleaves]

Thank you for this fantastic and important video! I'm part Onondagan so feel I can declare Oren Lyons my chief as well.. but he is not just a "Chief". He is the Faithkeeper of the Turtle Clan. His mission is to keep reminding everyone to honor this planet and all our brothers and sisters (humans and animals alike). A little suggestion: please add the tags "oren" and "lyons" and "onondaga" and "iroquois" for this vid so more people will find it. Thank you and have a great day!

[BodhiArchana]

I enjoyed listening to a intelligent person as Oren

Love, Annica

[dulangan]

Hi, Sister !

[BodhiArchana]

Hi!

[dulangan]

Hello, Annica I hope you can ring me at my skyphe: pependayan1

[dulangan]

THANKS YOU FOR FEATURING CHIEF OREN LYONS, ADD MORE TALKS, SPEECHES OF THE ONANDAGA CHIEF, LONG LIVE THE WORLD IPs !