2004 DCI Blue Devils - sweet Quad sectional.. ramming notes!

[thevoyard]

Il y en a même un qui trouve tellement "chiant" et sans intérêt ce qu'il joue qu'il écoute une autre zique dans son casque de wakman !

[Bfongbfong]

0:29 Scojo's lick of the weeeeeek opening

[drumboy1313]

Is there any reason why their spock heads are not facing forward?

[drumer363]

@drumboy1313 its just how it goes haha thats how my school does it

[SuperMANgino]

my god I've watched this wayyyyyy tooo many times to be considered normal anymore

[TheMusicman017]

0:30 = scojo theme lick

[OldSchoolLovin15]

BD Spree 97'?

[masterdrummer19]

fuck you tim jackson... i hate how good you are

[cwk1417]

that was back when iPod's were just coming on to the scene. big investment for a dci kid

[guitar112796]

BLAST BEAT AT 0:59



[DaJmsta]

don't want to hate on them when they were actually good but 0:17 PLAYING AREAS

[tjw889]

@DaJmsta They're all playing in the same areas... so no.....

[DaJmsta]

@tjw889 well the one on the left is definitely playing in the dead center, so if they are all doing the same thing then they're all wrong

[tjw889]

@DaJmsta There's nothing wrong with everyone playing dead center if the techs that year wanted that specific timbre or technique. Generally it may be "right" to play at half of the radius, but it's all at the discretion of the staff where they want playing zones to be. If everyone is playing "exactly the same," then you're right in this activity, and playing at exactly the level you should be at.

[doublebassheeltoe]

@tjw889 Any tenor tech who says that tenor zones should be in the "dead center" of the head is an idiot. It has nothing to do with "what kind of timbre or technique" you're going for. If you are playing in the exact center of the head, you are wrong. Period.

[tjw889]

@doublebassheeltoe Right... BD techs.... idiots... right.

There's way more to musicality in battery percussion than the rigid technique they teach in high schools. Zone definition works for tenors just as much as it works for snares. It's just that with tenors you have far fewer situations where you would deviate from conventional playing areas.

The techs probably wanted a deader sound, whether due to the heads or the ensemble . They're all playing the same areas. So, sorry, they're right.

[doublebassheeltoe]

@tjw889 How about this. I'll give Tim Jackson a call. I'll ask him if he was ever asked to play in the middle of the drum head. I'll have an answer in a couple days. Sound good?

[IrrelevantTV]

@doublebassheeltoe thank god, someone who agrees with me. BD tenors fuckin do that it fuckin pisses me off

arg they're not really musical at all.

[SystemicMusicality]

@IrrelevantTV and yet they're the best tenor players in DCI

[Tommydrummer92]

agree, no shoulder movement perfect hands, everythings good always lol

[M3ssageT4k3n]

@SystemicMusicality correction, were

[drumer363]

@IrrelevantTV h ttp://ww w. you tube .com/watch ?v=IBSzL 7H4lsQ &NR=1

look at 2:27 in that video....those are called playing zones... i bet you hit rims :)

sorry for the choppy url but youtube wouldnt let me put it all together.

[evangtenors57]

@doublebassheeltoe I think the issue is those damn vegas. the sticks are longs as hell. it makes it harder to play in a comftorable arm and hand position and stay in the zones. thats why companys like to make tenor mallets and sticks shorter. tenors now sit farther away from the body than they used to. i had the same issue in high school using vegas.

[IrrelevantTV]

@tjw889 yeah dude ive never heard of tenors being told to play in the middle of the head

thats just shitty playing dude

[theloneprotecter]

I have loved the tenors all my life, but the past two years at highschool I've played the snare and bass... I'm praying that I can get those multi-tonal membranophones hooked up this year to play them for marching band, they're my obsession <3

[Bigmacx2121]

COOL!!!!

[issy23s]

There are 3 people who visited and watched this vid : One is a snare player who got jealous of tenors, one is a tenor player who got jealous of them, and the other is an uninterested bass player who was impressed but didn't find the like button. He pushed another button that also has a handshape.

[imsuperior1227]

@issy23s you're stupid.

[issy23s]

@imsuperior1227 you're wrong. i'm smart enough to know i'm stupid bhahaha

[nathan82206]

quads quad circle :)

[sithconsole]

what is the lick the tenors at the end play called?

[doublebassheeltoe]

What's up, five inch tap heights?

[j054uaj054ua]

Is it just me or is the tap off the beginning of the dirt?

[drumkid1982]

mhm who heard the book reports at 0:17???

[mdross9500]

@lomac011 Hahahahaha pseudo-intelligence fail.

[BSBINC1]

i like the white heads for snare butt for tenors you cant see your playing spots i like the clear ones

[JeDeSoN2]

i <3 pete lucero

[unusuallynormal231]

I want so badly to play on a corps tenor line. I'm sad tho that I'm pretty sure I'm not quote good enough. I'm a junior in high school and I practice every day.

[drumkid1982]

@unusuallynormal231 just keep practicin ur strokes, rudiments and movments, ive been drumming for a year and ill be marching WGI in april

[clutch478]

I wish this was slightly higher quality so I could (try to) learn to play it. hahaha

[rockstarduh5]

Soooo manyyyy tripletssss..........

[pwntheddrmachine]

:31 to the spock hit at :34 is the lick from Scojo's Lick of the Week =D

[arogtune]

why was one of them playing right in the center of the heads at the beginning? thats not the playing area

[danieljohn426]

What was that lick from at :31?

[bunhole100]

you know its good when a warmup sounds like music

[JesseRicketsonVideos]

you guys rock

[1922208]

i just jizzed

[Drumm3rboy48]

@1922208 so did i

[thephatazn]

isnt the first exercise 97 spree?

[hardh0usetechn0]

@drum214 actually they wer ghosting the flam accent around :10 to :15

[ayoon212]

that's so awesome in the beginning where they all hang their sticks in the air while the other hand is playing

[chris7pooper]

GO TENORS!!!!!!

[ortizzle55]

suede emperors?

[klick2destruct]

i want such drums :D

[gfaithw]

nice. NOT 1 CLICK. until 00:36.. :(

[KBoe4]

by 0:36 you mean 0:34

[sandmanstan]

those clicks were definately rims shot

[Drumrazy87]

anybody got the sheet music for the

second time the tenors rehearse?

ill trade lol

[ELREYDELABULLA]

lol...Willy is like WTF.....LMAO

[DieNaSty4me]

@ELREYDELABULLA willy is non existent in this vid man

[Givitomey]

was that Pete Lucero playing with Tim at the end?

[JeDeSoN2]

yes it is.

[DieNaSty4me]

@Givitomey ya

[jonah12321]

it is the lick of the week thing

[KickinBabys]

god people in dci are sooo fuckin good

[tenor1vm]

@KickinBabys

THATS WHY THERE ARE MARCHING

[BillXHETASXCook]

Okay, maybe it's just me, but I think those heads sound like diarrhea.

[BlueDevilsTowelBoy]

@BillXHETASXCook its probably the camera

[biagofty]

agreed man. Those the practice heads. The blue devils switch heads 2 hours before rehearsal.

[BillXHETASXCook]

Ohhh, ok. I never knew that.

[ptowndrummr]

no, its just those pitiful ass dynasty drums. remo heads are usually pretty good when tuned well. i agree that BD tunes very badly.

[BillXHETASXCook]

Ok, I didn't want to be the only one to say I thought so, so thank you, lol.

[ghostavaland]

who do you think tunes the best then? just an honest question

[ptowndrummr]

phantom 07. this year, crown.

[SabbethRomance]

Santa Clara tunes best imo, my favorite year was 02

[Rpkist77]

@SabbethRomance I agree, their line just has that full sound. I hate blue devils tuning...

[1922208]

idc if they messed up... that's a clean lick!!!

[hehe949]

The phrase at :30 sounds like the one that ScoJo uses at the beginning of Lick of the Week.

[btman2]

it is lol

[theoboegoddess]

tims a beast

[gussey756]

Is it common for people to listen to an ipod or mp3 while playing their music/the drums? First time I've seen it but I'm no msician. Sounds mad anyway.

[xthatx90sxshowx]

like the description says, maybe a metronome? i listen to it when i play my set, or my bass, but only cuz im playing along with the music but that yea thats strange. or he had it off and was trying to cut down on the noise from the horns.

[gussey756]

thanks for the reply:) makes sense, to be a metronome or to cut out some sound.

[Nathan1138Ammons]

He is such a bad ass he just listens to his own music whilst tapping off for the blue devils tenor line..... I thought I heard about a prophecy where a dude named jesus did it.. could be mistaken

[AziZune]

@xthatx90sxshowx As long as they are Remo, it doesn't even matter!

[Kmanflyaway]

that lick at 0:31 is the opening lick for scojo's lick of the week

[stayfrostywilly]

i think this was still in all-days.

[DJCatura]

i love white tenor drum heads, fuck the clear ones!

[cattleman6958]

@DJCatura so true!!!!!!

[cattleman6958]

@DJCatura SO TRUEEE!!!!!!

[lomac011]

@DJCatura You wouldn't be considered a real drummer. It's not about the looks. Unless they're purposely that color or design. It's about sound. Clear ones (most likely Remo Pinstrips or Evans MS or Corps Clear) are usually the most liked and favored because of sound.

[DJCatura]

@lomac011 not a real drummer? you ever won a DCi world championship? how about get a 19.9 in percussion on the finals show? ya i know that the white heads make a different sound, just cuz i didnt state the obvious doesnt mean im not a real drummer. Keep Trolling Lomac

[licebuddies]

@DJCatura i lover the evans MX black fuck clear! and somewhat disregard white ones. lol

[lij2015]

@DJCatura The clear ones are terrible because you can see EVERY SINGLE hit mark.

My independent indoor line uses the clear ones and i can't stand it.

[pdldrums]

We played the 97 spree in tribute to our drum staff that year. All of them marched 97 =)

The ScoJo lick was made up in Japan in October of 2003. We had time to kill so Tim, Fernando and I made something up. There is actually a snare part that goes to it that nobody knows about =)

The last lick was an experiment between me and Tim. We agreed on a tempo and made up 4 bars, 16th note based, of whatever we wanted. This vid is from when it wasn't finished yet...it's 2 bars longer now =)

[SilverRegiment08]

pretty long hangtime for that stick toss at 0:52

[temeasesino]

i thought the blue devils had different hardware on thier drums.

[Phantom1722]

there whatever you want them to be, just like with the violin, ethier violin or fiddle, whatever you prefer. keep it simple haha

[HoundPride04]

Is :31 the quad lick at the beginning of Sco Jo's Lick of the Week series?

[BeevilleTrojan]

IT IS! LOL I NOTICED THAT TO! =]

[ChopMastahhh]

@HoundPride04 yup

[unamedandunknown]

@HoundPride04 If I'm not mistaken the Lick of the Week series was made in 2006 so that could possibly be Tim's lick that Scott Johnson took and made a snare part for. Highly unlikely but still possible.

[drummeriskewl334]

@unamedandunknown no he means the tenor part that shows the promark logo.

[danieljohn426]

@HoundPride04 Yeah

[drumkid1982]

@HoundPride04 yeah

[MrAc2181]

@HoundPride04 yeah it is

[A7Xblood]

@HoundPride04 sounds like it... they just cut the rest off after the dry crush

[Pandanobear]

multi tom ftw

[VihSantos]

Meu Deus :OOOOOOOO que que é issoooooo????????

aiushaiushaiushiauhsa

[Oh My God :O what is it??????]

[18drummaboy]

Blue Devils always have a smokin tenor line!!!

[drmmrboy88]

yeah isn't the first like 4 measures of the lick on .30 from Scojo's Lick of the week as the introductions of the BD logo?

[kas36spires]

haha 0:30 is the tenor lick at the beginning of scojos series

[psphanatic]

0:16 everything but his arms is like a statue!

[bubbachin342]

Seriously.......i can't find it anywhere

[Indabakliesdalust]

MUSIC ?

[fallendude01]

thanks man

[fallendude01]

umm all their drumheads, the logo is at top, their spok heads, thier logo is at the bottom for all of em, any1 know why?

[kickbuttireland]

well its usually up to the player or the section leader or the corps as to where they want the logo. I like to put all of mine at the top.

[Blooooocoats]

not really sure...i know my scchool puts the 3 and 4 on the bottom and the 1 and 2 at the top, so that the logo is away from the playing zones

but its really just personal preference

[rattlinO0Osnares]

i saw one school that had all the tenors heads logos between the lugs farthest from the drummer. it was wierd but cool.

[petervengeance]

yo anyone transcribed that at :30-34?

[drumiestdrummer]

Jackson wasn't section leader?

[dbrddr]

not that year--Miguel Guaderrama (sp?) was, and he aged out that year. He had a pretty sweet I&E solo, as well.

[drumiestdrummer]

Yea, I've seen it on here before.

I'll have to check it out.

Thanks man

[favok99]

did anyone notice from 31 to 34 is the quad lick on the intro on some of the scojo lotw vids on here? Lol

[jsk8drummer]

THEY ARE CALLED TENORS

[funkrok2010]

Thats just a general term. for instance

4 drums-quads

5 drums-quints

6 drums-hexes (or sexes)

I've seen em called all

[railfanfromiantha]

I need to learn how to play that.

[jrdude2018]

Not sure that at :30 seconds in was a mistake, but it sounded badass.

[EHtenors09]

are you talking about :38 seconds?

[xpmpjce21x]

i love how tim starts playing his solo form 04 at the end.

[psphanatic]

Well it IS a video from 04 haha

[gfpettus]

yah at :30 thats the lick for scojo lick of the week haha

[gfpettus]

lol the general term is still quads or Q's or tenors

[CrayolaCoffeeCo]

These aren't quads, they're quints :/

[Noonan1223]

..."sexes", technically, people just call them quads

[CrayolaCoffeeCo]

Whoops, didn't see the extra.

My mistake.

srhprshmrepjhnr

What is this madness?

"Quads?!?!?!"

[mike19157]

wrong they r sextets

[taylormeador]

they are called quads

[xxblamxx]

actually, as a tenor player, they are called 'sextets' due to the 6 drums.

but because of the confusion with quad, quint, sextet, and so on, its easier to just call them tenors.

i play quints and everyone calls them quad and im ocd bout it lolz and im like "they r called tenors!!".

[wcboy94]

i second that!

[mike19157]

count da drums the term quads is actually wrong 4 the now standerd set of 5 drums the proper term is quints, since there r 6 drums they r sexes

[Aaaronicus]

well, if you really want to get technical....

The spocks (6" drums) are so small that have no tonal quality and therefore are not considered drums. This leaves 4 tenor drums. If there is an 8" spock then it cranked so high that it doesn't have any tonal quality anymore either, rendering it not a drum. Therefore, both quints and sexes (sextets, hexes, six-packs) are technically quads as they only have 4 tenor drums.

[mike19157]

dat is da most bs ive eva heard wether its tone is tenor or not it is still a drum( a musical percussion instrument consisting of a hollow, usually cylindrical, body covered at one or both ends with a tightly stretched membrane, or head, which is struck with the hand, a stick, or a pair of sticks, and typically produces a booming, tapping, or hollow sound.) the tone does not change da fact dat it is a drum.

[Aaaronicus]

You are right. It doesn't change the fact that it is a drum. The lack of tonal quality changes the fact that it is a tenor drum. You wouldn't call a bass drum a tenor drum would you? Just because it is a drum doesn't mean it can be considered a tenor drum. The spocks are effect drums (kind of like a cowbell mounted on a snare), not tenor drums. which leaves quads. It really isn't that big of a deal. We still call ours quints at my school.

[mike19157]

yea we count the number of drums not the numba of tenors but da name really doesnt matta wat u call somethin doesnt change how it is played , u march corp?

[Aaaronicus]

I wish. I was going to be marching with the Spartans of Nashua NH this summer...but unfortunately the corps went bankrupt and didn't field this year. Maybe next year.

[anselon]

I got to march Tenors in Spartans back in 1995-96 and I think they will come back stronger than before. Just give them a chance.

[Aaaronicus]

Yeah especially since they had Tom Aungst writing their book, and like 4 or 5 other guys from the Cadets teaching it. The line was going to be awesome. Mike Moore (center tenor for cadets in 2005) was the caption head. It was going to be awesome.

[mike19157]

i heard dey coming bak dis year

[Und3r0ath0wns]

nice lol

[Poasted]

What are you talking about. It's a drum. You buy them at a drum store. It fits the criteria of a drum. It's tonal quality is just really high pitched with a lot of overtone so it doesn't appear to have tonal quality. Spock and shot drums are drums.

[killercheese2]

They are still considered Membranophones. Which fall into the category of being a drum. And to be a drum does not require it to have tonal qualities. spocks are considered drums, whether everybody considers them to be or not.

[corey0881]

@mike19157

who frickin cares, good god

[mike19157]

i care y do u care if i care lol

[dxkevinxd]

why's he the only one doing cross overs and stick flips? lol, or is it just him having fun

[pcane08]

how do you even learn to play the quads so well? I mean i play them in High school right now but i still dont see how even a lot of practice gets you that good. Is there certain exercises to do that you can build up for cross overs? Because that is definetely my week point

[99lucas66]

O.O

[spicedmoondust]

woo thats sweet man

[rreemmzzrruullee]

HA! isn't :30 the beggining lick for the scoo lick of the week thing?

[whitecrowproductions]

LOL ive never seen this video of tim and pete. thats awesome

[6bassangel6]

4 travis barker ::D:D

[bejay20x]

WHOA. ok i picked out the blue devils media quad lick thing. from :30 to :34

[tmomo12]

you guy are amazing.

[SilverRegiment08]

SICK SPOCK SPLIT!

[Rogers1977]

What's the spree they play in the beginning?

[wsrb23]

shopping spree 97

[plormitch]

mattfinnish...I have tapes of '82 & '83 blue devils and thought that the Ludwigs were the best sounding tenors

[Rogers1977]

dude, yamahas sounds so much better than these.

[boket5u]

Yamaha, Peal, and Mapex sound so much better. I actually prefer the tone of Mapex over Yamaha.

[littlesnareboy]

I don't have any experience with Mapex yet, but I prefer Yamaha over Pearl and Dynasty.

[boket5u]

i like pearl over the three if it came down to it. but if i only had an outdoor program then mapex would pack the most punch and best tones in my opinion... the Jupiter equipment from that line even sounds amazing