Further evidence against this false interpretation of this verse... John 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! So if we don't see that he is talking about a spiritual reality and not a physical reality, we would be led, by the "simple reading" to believe that Jesus was an animal.
The greek word for is "eimi" has a range of meaning of "be, be identical, exist, happen, be in a place, belong, represent" This according to both Louw-Nida and DBL Greek Lexicons of the Biblical Greek. So to go on and on about the meaning of the English word is, as the speaker does is a waste of time. Jesus has not yet been poured out physically, so he is misleading the hearer to say that his position is to interpret the plain meaning of the verse.
@nschaub Ok so I cite Louw-Nida and Data base of Biblical Languages Greek Lexicon as evidence to support me, so what evidence can you give to support your argument?
The words are simple and clear, but Jesus body had not yet been sacrificed! If you look at the simple words in context it is clearly is not his physical body.
Jesus' supper was a fortelling of His crucifixion and death, bcuz He said His blood would be poured out for the remission of all sin. When we eat His supper without believing that His blood sacrifice saves us then we are eating unworthily. He took the punishment for sin which we are truly deserving of. We must focus on His blood sacrifice when eating His supper. His supper was never meant to be offered as an unbloody sacrifice. There must be a death, this does not occur in the mass.
@catchzz I am happy with you or anyone to share my email and even facebook as a friend to show you my Historical related Christian postings. God bless you and Peace of The Christ!! Know His Church!! It is real and It can be SEEN....not UNSEEN.. It's not some INVISIBLE worldwide congregagtion you can't touch, smell or feel.. You can use all the senses with THIS CHURCH that you could if you were in the Presence of JESUS CHRIST. His Body, The Church, isn't any different. ;-)
@catchzz The problem is, the only Church that departed from the Catholic Continuity of Faith........is Pastor Lassman's. That's historical Truth. Look it up yourself. You don't need anyone to tell you this. GOOGLE "LUTHERAN CHURCH". Who doe sit say is The Founder? Right on! LUTHER, Pastor... Now GOOGLE The Catholic Church or "THE POPES"...you get from 99.9% of any PUBLIC source material The History goes straight to Jesus Christ and The early CATHOLIC CHURCH, Friends.
@catchzz Your welcome as everyone is to learn about the other side of History and This Topic and many more that, unfortunately, Pastor Lassman, is wrong about Historically and unfortunately skews everything his way as if this was all about "him" and not God or Jesus or The Church. Always brings up The "Roman Catholic Church" to show it departed from the original Catholic church. When I called him on to give me the founder of this "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" I have yet to hear of a name. ;-)
@catchzz I also want you to know that The Catholic Church today is The same as in the time of Jesus and His first "Office" holders, The Apostles. Also St. Ignatius of Antioch in 108 A.D., St. Irenaues in 180 A.D. as well as Clement of Rome in only 80 A.D. an early Church Pope. (Read any source material online or other.) It's in there! These are PUBLIC sources. And The same Church today of St. Augustine in 300's A.D... The 22 Ecumenical Councils...Same Church..Same Continuity of Faith.
@catchzz I appreciate the kind message you sent me today and wish you well but am informing you with OBJECTIVE Truth, not an "Opinion of a Man" speaking on behalf of 1 of 4 separated bodies of Lutheran Churches. That is not Pastor Lassman's fault. But, since he puts himself out here in the PUBLIC FORUM, it is my mandate as a Catholic Christian Apologist who studied Scripture and The Early Church to put his words to scrutiny, publicly, as they should be for ALL to know. I think that's fair.
@JDNWF66 Hi..I was simply pointing out the problems with the concept of sola scriptura. I am confused however.. what do you mean by speaking on behalf of 1 of 4 separated bodies of Lutheran Churches? There are many more bodies of Lutheran churches.. at least so I thought. Correct me here if I am incorrect. I have done much study myself on the Roman Catholic church and know that it contains the fullness of truth. It seems to me that you are also a member of the one true body yourself.
@JDNWF66 That is true, but then again you bring up the point of what entails a true Lutheran church? Most protestants are protestants because they have no clear guidelines to group them together. Luther wouldnt accept homosexual marriage but yet the Lutheran church of Sweden has accepted this as normal practice. Following sola scriptura, far cry from it.
@catchzz I am simply a member of The Catholic Church. It's the only Church that has a straight line from The present to Jesus Christ historically and within that context lays the truth of faith in Jesus, nit in emplty flesh and blood men with objections to It. We all object. It's about what we object? Christ' Church? Not. I object the objectors.
@JDNWF66 And truth can only exist in the proper authority of His church handed down to Peter and passed through the ages through the laying of hands where it is protected and guided by the Holy Spirit of which the gates of Hell would never overcome. God bless the Catholic Church.
If you put a piece of bread into Radiation ...pastor lassman, what will you be eating? Bread or radiation? Scientists will tell you that the substance has changed to RADIATION. Geeeeee.....hmmmm....Jesus changes simple bread to His Body. YOU are making it difficult ....you are making it conflicted. Look at early Church Teaching. If it is THE BIBLE, what else can it be? ONLY THE BIBLE. Jesus says "This is My Body", what else can that be then? Other than his BODY...
@JDNWF66 Good point. The bread has transformed fully into His Body, and we should not be confused with the incorrect teaching of "with". There is no bread with the body.
@catchzz Thank you. It is that way The Early CATHOLIC Church united under The Pope always continuously passed on that same Teaching on This Faith question to this very day. You can read about St. Ambrose's Teachings and they are EXACTLY the same as that of The Catholic Church united all over the world With ROME. It is not mere symbols. But the Pastor is being disenguous, because Lutherans believe The BREAD is PRESENT with The BODY and The BLOOD. Any Lutheran Theologian will tell you that.
@catchzz Also beware of people like this who teach without the Apostolic Authority Christ gave to His Apostles and later their successors. It was not a free for all. In fact the worst possible candidate for "AN OFFICE" was not A POPE, believe it or not. It Was JUDAS ISCARIOT and Jesus Christ chose him. OK. You can ask .."well...but was Judas really in an "OFFICE".....Why don't we look at what THE BIBLE says, as Pastor Lassman always points out. Acts 1: 20.
Are you so sure? Take a look at this and tell me it is a symbol...and His Body... It's His Body. You are making it difficult. If Jesus says this is His Bidy it is not his Bread....
Jesus never said This is my Body and my Bread!! Did he? Who is making this difficult? You are.
You are wrong on the consistent actuality implied by the word "is"; by example, two people could observe a painting; one person could state, "This is a beautiful painting." The other person could state, "This is an ugly painting." Each person is stating what they believe to be the truth based upon their own response to the painting. What they are actually stating is their individual response to the painting, as there can be no implication of definitive truth in this application of the word "is"
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this is a simplistic argument that does not hold up. you can understand jesus' comments in light of the context in which they occur i.e. the passover feast, he was reinterpreting one symbol within the feast. also, there are lots of times in ritual or poetry where "is" is used as a figure of speech. the word "is" creates analogy as well.example: your body is a holy temple. this logic would lead us to believe that our bodies are buildings and not symbolic of being the dwelling of the holy spirit
@pwoodfi. Yes He states clearly and plainly bcuz He wants us to understand that His body will be broken and His blood will be poured out(crucified and died for the sins of the world). Take His word for that. We must trust in His saving blood sacrifice. But He resurrected as prove that His blood sacrifice was acceptable to his Father.
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from youselves, it is the gift of God--NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast." Eating bread and wine would be considered a 'work' that needs to be completed every week for the forgiveness of sins. Works are not in the equation. All religions preach 'man's efforts'. Christianity is the exact opposite. It preaches God's effort.
Think about it for a minute. If the bread is His body and the wine is His blood then He didn't need to go to the cross. We have Christ substitutes in carbohydrate and juice form. The cross is meaningless then.
Hi..I'm sorry but I have a real hard time following your thought. The Cross is not meaningless. The Cross is the Cross. But in the Lord's Supper He gives us His body and blood for the forgiveness which He won for us on the cross. I don't see the contradiction. On the Cross Jesus won forgiveness. In his Supper He gives that forgiveness that He won on the cross...
Christ is not present in the eucharist. He died once and for all 2000 years ago. Christ said "it is finished." Hebrews....."So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. . . ."
HI..you might have me confused with the Roman Catholic Church...I am Lutheran (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod). So, I agree with you that Christ was offered only once for the sins of the world. But we do believe that Jesus's body and blood are given with the bread and wine for the forgiveness of our sins...that's what He says...
@nschaub That isn't what He said. Bread and wine were not nailed to the cross. His body was. The bread and wine was the last meal He had with his apostles.
Im not sure I understand your explaination as needing distiction from the RC. What this person is saying (not that I agree) is that Christ cannot be present because He died & Ascended to Heaven so He can no long manifest Himself physically here on earth. If you as a Lutheran believe in the real presense, then Christ can manifest Himself in physical form similarly as the RCC teaches. Of course I know the differences in our beliefs but still Im not sure where you distinction here is getting at.
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me...
@NorseLuther That's not what Christ meant. He was refering to His death on the cross. We are partakers of His sacrifice. Christ is not present in the eucharist. He died once and for all 2000 years ago. Christ said "it is finished." Hebrews....."So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. . . ."
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The original bible didn't have the word "is" in it, because Hebrew doesn't have linking verbs. It just said "this my body," so a number of words could be inbetween there.
Hi.thanks for your comments but you have your facts wrong. The New Testament was written in Greek not Hebrew and in all the New Testament accounts the Greek word "IS" is in the text. So, your facts are just wrong...Pastor Lassman
You are right that is no longer the teaching..but during the 16th century that was the teaching..it was called "an unbloody sacrifice." But glad that is no longer true.........Pastor Lassman
If Jesus intended those words to be taken literally, and I have taken them figuratively, what will be my answer? All I could say would be, "I trusted my reason more than your words." I would rather be rebuked for taking Jesus at His word, than for not doing so. God bless you Pr. Lassman.
Pr. Todd Wilken, bless him, wrote...Jesus says, "This is my body... This is my blood." Now, on Judgment Day, if I am wrong in taking those words literally, and Jesus rebukes me, "Why did you misunderstand my Supper?" I will be able to answer, "Lord, I was simply taking you at your Word."
Hey Pr. Lassman, this is Gabe McCann from the WT. One thing that comforts my soul in the whole real presence/symbol only debate is what Pr. Todd Wilken said on Issues etc... before it got cancelled.
I'm not sure what to believe about Communion. I can't ignore the fact that Hebrews 9:25 implies Christ is in Heaven and not to be sacrificed again. Also, Jesus often compares Himself to inanimate objects, for instance, a vine (He says, "I am the true vine," but He's not literally a vine), the bread of life (...) and the living water.
Hi..thanks. first not sure why you mention about Christ not being sacrificed again..Lutherans don't believe that either..that was a Roman Catholic teacing. The rest is too complicated to explain to you over email but Jesus does not REPRESENT/SYMBOLIZE the true vine..He IS the true vine. The figure of speech is not in the word IS but in the word VINE. Blessings..Pastor Lassman
Jesus did not always speack in parables? ..so you say that passage of the new testament is wrong?You have to proove your interpretation...Pastor Lassman.
Matt. 13:3 indicates that Jesus spoke only in parables ON THAT OCASSION (that's the context)Look at John 16:29 "you are speaking CLEARLY AND WITHOUT FIGURES OF SPEECH". Jn 10:24, 25 If you are the Christ tell us PLAINLY. I DID TELL YOU..." Do you think the Lord's Prayer is a parable or figure of speech? Pastor Lassman
I am not looking for an argument, just to clear up misunderstandings; the Catholic Church's official teaching has never been that Jesus was sacrificed again. Unfortunately, there are too many miscommunications that separate Christians.
The Bible warns us not to be literalistic. "We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:6) "The letter kills, but the spirit gives life." (2 Corinthians 3:6) Jesus Himself always spoke in parables (Matthew 13:34) and figurative language (John 16:12,25), and when His disciples interpreted His sayings literalistically, He said, "You people of little faith? ... Don't you understand?" (Matthew 16:7-12)
You don't understand Scripture. "Letter" means "Law" "Spirit" means "Gospel". Jesus did not always speak in parables (sermon on the mount). Pastor Lassman
Further evidence against this false interpretation of this verse... John 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! So if we don't see that he is talking about a spiritual reality and not a physical reality, we would be led, by the "simple reading" to believe that Jesus was an animal.
pastormarkm 16 hours ago
The greek word for is "eimi" has a range of meaning of "be, be identical, exist, happen, be in a place, belong, represent" This according to both Louw-Nida and DBL Greek Lexicons of the Biblical Greek. So to go on and on about the meaning of the English word is, as the speaker does is a waste of time. Jesus has not yet been poured out physically, so he is misleading the hearer to say that his position is to interpret the plain meaning of the verse.
pastormarkm 1 day ago
@pastormarkm The Greek word Eimi.........never means represents.
nschaub 19 hours ago
@nschaub Ok, so I site Louw-Nida and Data Base of Biblical Languages Geek Lexicons as my source, what is your source for the meaning of "eimi" ?
pastormarkm 16 hours ago
@nschaub Ok so I cite Louw-Nida and Data base of Biblical Languages Greek Lexicon as evidence to support me, so what evidence can you give to support your argument?
pastormarkm 15 hours ago
The words are simple and clear, but Jesus body had not yet been sacrificed! If you look at the simple words in context it is clearly is not his physical body.
pastormarkm 1 day ago
Jesus' supper was a fortelling of His crucifixion and death, bcuz He said His blood would be poured out for the remission of all sin. When we eat His supper without believing that His blood sacrifice saves us then we are eating unworthily. He took the punishment for sin which we are truly deserving of. We must focus on His blood sacrifice when eating His supper. His supper was never meant to be offered as an unbloody sacrifice. There must be a death, this does not occur in the mass.
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Johnsavag 7 months ago
@catchzz I am happy with you or anyone to share my email and even facebook as a friend to show you my Historical related Christian postings. God bless you and Peace of The Christ!! Know His Church!! It is real and It can be SEEN....not UNSEEN.. It's not some INVISIBLE worldwide congregagtion you can't touch, smell or feel.. You can use all the senses with THIS CHURCH that you could if you were in the Presence of JESUS CHRIST. His Body, The Church, isn't any different. ;-)
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz The problem is, the only Church that departed from the Catholic Continuity of Faith........is Pastor Lassman's. That's historical Truth. Look it up yourself. You don't need anyone to tell you this. GOOGLE "LUTHERAN CHURCH". Who doe sit say is The Founder? Right on! LUTHER, Pastor... Now GOOGLE The Catholic Church or "THE POPES"...you get from 99.9% of any PUBLIC source material The History goes straight to Jesus Christ and The early CATHOLIC CHURCH, Friends.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz Your welcome as everyone is to learn about the other side of History and This Topic and many more that, unfortunately, Pastor Lassman, is wrong about Historically and unfortunately skews everything his way as if this was all about "him" and not God or Jesus or The Church. Always brings up The "Roman Catholic Church" to show it departed from the original Catholic church. When I called him on to give me the founder of this "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" I have yet to hear of a name. ;-)
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz I also want you to know that The Catholic Church today is The same as in the time of Jesus and His first "Office" holders, The Apostles. Also St. Ignatius of Antioch in 108 A.D., St. Irenaues in 180 A.D. as well as Clement of Rome in only 80 A.D. an early Church Pope. (Read any source material online or other.) It's in there! These are PUBLIC sources. And The same Church today of St. Augustine in 300's A.D... The 22 Ecumenical Councils...Same Church..Same Continuity of Faith.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz I appreciate the kind message you sent me today and wish you well but am informing you with OBJECTIVE Truth, not an "Opinion of a Man" speaking on behalf of 1 of 4 separated bodies of Lutheran Churches. That is not Pastor Lassman's fault. But, since he puts himself out here in the PUBLIC FORUM, it is my mandate as a Catholic Christian Apologist who studied Scripture and The Early Church to put his words to scrutiny, publicly, as they should be for ALL to know. I think that's fair.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@JDNWF66 Hi..I was simply pointing out the problems with the concept of sola scriptura. I am confused however.. what do you mean by speaking on behalf of 1 of 4 separated bodies of Lutheran Churches? There are many more bodies of Lutheran churches.. at least so I thought. Correct me here if I am incorrect. I have done much study myself on the Roman Catholic church and know that it contains the fullness of truth. It seems to me that you are also a member of the one true body yourself.
catchzz 8 months ago
@catchzz To my knowledge there are 4 Lutheran Bodies. Someone simply claiming to be one doesn't give them legitimacy.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@JDNWF66 That is true, but then again you bring up the point of what entails a true Lutheran church? Most protestants are protestants because they have no clear guidelines to group them together. Luther wouldnt accept homosexual marriage but yet the Lutheran church of Sweden has accepted this as normal practice. Following sola scriptura, far cry from it.
catchzz 8 months ago
@catchzz I am simply a member of The Catholic Church. It's the only Church that has a straight line from The present to Jesus Christ historically and within that context lays the truth of faith in Jesus, nit in emplty flesh and blood men with objections to It. We all object. It's about what we object? Christ' Church? Not. I object the objectors.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@JDNWF66 And truth can only exist in the proper authority of His church handed down to Peter and passed through the ages through the laying of hands where it is protected and guided by the Holy Spirit of which the gates of Hell would never overcome. God bless the Catholic Church.
catchzz 7 months ago
If you put a piece of bread into Radiation ...pastor lassman, what will you be eating? Bread or radiation? Scientists will tell you that the substance has changed to RADIATION. Geeeeee.....hmmmm....Jesus changes simple bread to His Body. YOU are making it difficult ....you are making it conflicted. Look at early Church Teaching. If it is THE BIBLE, what else can it be? ONLY THE BIBLE. Jesus says "This is My Body", what else can that be then? Other than his BODY...
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@JDNWF66 Good point. The bread has transformed fully into His Body, and we should not be confused with the incorrect teaching of "with". There is no bread with the body.
catchzz 8 months ago
@catchzz Thank you. It is that way The Early CATHOLIC Church united under The Pope always continuously passed on that same Teaching on This Faith question to this very day. You can read about St. Ambrose's Teachings and they are EXACTLY the same as that of The Catholic Church united all over the world With ROME. It is not mere symbols. But the Pastor is being disenguous, because Lutherans believe The BREAD is PRESENT with The BODY and The BLOOD. Any Lutheran Theologian will tell you that.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz Also beware of people like this who teach without the Apostolic Authority Christ gave to His Apostles and later their successors. It was not a free for all. In fact the worst possible candidate for "AN OFFICE" was not A POPE, believe it or not. It Was JUDAS ISCARIOT and Jesus Christ chose him. OK. You can ask .."well...but was Judas really in an "OFFICE".....Why don't we look at what THE BIBLE says, as Pastor Lassman always points out. Acts 1: 20.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
Are you so sure? Take a look at this and tell me it is a symbol...and His Body... It's His Body. You are making it difficult. If Jesus says this is His Bidy it is not his Bread....
Jesus never said This is my Body and my Bread!! Did he? Who is making this difficult? You are.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
You are wrong on the consistent actuality implied by the word "is"; by example, two people could observe a painting; one person could state, "This is a beautiful painting." The other person could state, "This is an ugly painting." Each person is stating what they believe to be the truth based upon their own response to the painting. What they are actually stating is their individual response to the painting, as there can be no implication of definitive truth in this application of the word "is"
JeffersonDinedAlone 8 months ago
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ladymafiaqueenbee 9 months ago
this is a simplistic argument that does not hold up. you can understand jesus' comments in light of the context in which they occur i.e. the passover feast, he was reinterpreting one symbol within the feast. also, there are lots of times in ritual or poetry where "is" is used as a figure of speech. the word "is" creates analogy as well.example: your body is a holy temple. this logic would lead us to believe that our bodies are buildings and not symbolic of being the dwelling of the holy spirit
greenmonk 10 months ago
Jesus states plainly, "This is My Body" ,you either trust in what Jesus said, or your own interpretations and ideas.
pwoodfi 1 year ago
Well said...Pastor Lassman
nschaub 1 year ago
@pwoodfi. Yes He states clearly and plainly bcuz He wants us to understand that His body will be broken and His blood will be poured out(crucified and died for the sins of the world). Take His word for that. We must trust in His saving blood sacrifice. But He resurrected as prove that His blood sacrifice was acceptable to his Father.
bornagainsaint1 2 months ago
The cup of Revelation 17......'having a golden cup in her hand filled with abominations and filthiness....."
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
I hope you are not applying this to the cup that Jesus refers to in His supper.
nschaub 2 years ago
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from youselves, it is the gift of God--NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast." Eating bread and wine would be considered a 'work' that needs to be completed every week for the forgiveness of sins. Works are not in the equation. All religions preach 'man's efforts'. Christianity is the exact opposite. It preaches God's effort.
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
NO..it's not works..it's faith...simply believing what Jesus says...no different from him tell you to believe in him..that's not works...
nschaub 2 years ago
Think about it for a minute. If the bread is His body and the wine is His blood then He didn't need to go to the cross. We have Christ substitutes in carbohydrate and juice form. The cross is meaningless then.
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
Hi..I'm sorry but I have a real hard time following your thought. The Cross is not meaningless. The Cross is the Cross. But in the Lord's Supper He gives us His body and blood for the forgiveness which He won for us on the cross. I don't see the contradiction. On the Cross Jesus won forgiveness. In his Supper He gives that forgiveness that He won on the cross...
nschaub 2 years ago
Christ is not present in the eucharist. He died once and for all 2000 years ago. Christ said "it is finished." Hebrews....."So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. . . ."
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
HI..you might have me confused with the Roman Catholic Church...I am Lutheran (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod). So, I agree with you that Christ was offered only once for the sins of the world. But we do believe that Jesus's body and blood are given with the bread and wine for the forgiveness of our sins...that's what He says...
nschaub 2 years ago
@nschaub That isn't what He said. Bread and wine were not nailed to the cross. His body was. The bread and wine was the last meal He had with his apostles.
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
Im not sure I understand your explaination as needing distiction from the RC. What this person is saying (not that I agree) is that Christ cannot be present because He died & Ascended to Heaven so He can no long manifest Himself physically here on earth. If you as a Lutheran believe in the real presense, then Christ can manifest Himself in physical form similarly as the RCC teaches. Of course I know the differences in our beliefs but still Im not sure where you distinction here is getting at.
catchzz 2 years ago
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me...
NorseLuther 3 years ago
@NorseLuther That's not what Christ meant. He was refering to His death on the cross. We are partakers of His sacrifice. Christ is not present in the eucharist. He died once and for all 2000 years ago. Christ said "it is finished." Hebrews....."So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. . . ."
johnthreesixteen316 2 years ago
Do you do confession?
michaelflat 3 years ago
HI.thanks for your question. Yes, Lutherans believe in corporate and private confession/absolution. Pastor Lassman
nschaub 3 years ago
The Reconciliation is a sacrament according to the scriptures of the Reformation.
karpov89 2 years ago
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zuipteam 3 years ago
In all of those classes you taught, was that all on the same day?
chocolate10239 3 years ago
HI...No, I taught 15 two hour classes..one per week...Pastor Lassman
nschaub 3 years ago
The original bible didn't have the word "is" in it, because Hebrew doesn't have linking verbs. It just said "this my body," so a number of words could be inbetween there.
chocolate10239 3 years ago
Hi.thanks for your comments but you have your facts wrong. The New Testament was written in Greek not Hebrew and in all the New Testament accounts the Greek word "IS" is in the text. So, your facts are just wrong...Pastor Lassman
nschaub 3 years ago
You are right that is no longer the teaching..but during the 16th century that was the teaching..it was called "an unbloody sacrifice." But glad that is no longer true.........Pastor Lassman
nschaub 3 years ago
If Jesus intended those words to be taken literally, and I have taken them figuratively, what will be my answer? All I could say would be, "I trusted my reason more than your words." I would rather be rebuked for taking Jesus at His word, than for not doing so. God bless you Pr. Lassman.
5PintLutheran 3 years ago 3
Pr. Todd Wilken, bless him, wrote...Jesus says, "This is my body... This is my blood." Now, on Judgment Day, if I am wrong in taking those words literally, and Jesus rebukes me, "Why did you misunderstand my Supper?" I will be able to answer, "Lord, I was simply taking you at your Word."
5PintLutheran 3 years ago 2
Hey Pr. Lassman, this is Gabe McCann from the WT. One thing that comforts my soul in the whole real presence/symbol only debate is what Pr. Todd Wilken said on Issues etc... before it got cancelled.
5PintLutheran 3 years ago
I'm not sure what to believe about Communion. I can't ignore the fact that Hebrews 9:25 implies Christ is in Heaven and not to be sacrificed again. Also, Jesus often compares Himself to inanimate objects, for instance, a vine (He says, "I am the true vine," but He's not literally a vine), the bread of life (...) and the living water.
AnHonestChristian 4 years ago
Hi..thanks. first not sure why you mention about Christ not being sacrificed again..Lutherans don't believe that either..that was a Roman Catholic teacing. The rest is too complicated to explain to you over email but Jesus does not REPRESENT/SYMBOLIZE the true vine..He IS the true vine. The figure of speech is not in the word IS but in the word VINE. Blessings..Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
Catholics don't believe Jesus is sacrificed again and never did. That's just a misunderstanding.
irishcatholicgirlie 3 years ago
Jesus did not always speack in parables? ..so you say that passage of the new testament is wrong?You have to proove your interpretation...Pastor Lassman.
quierover11 4 years ago
Matt. 13:3 indicates that Jesus spoke only in parables ON THAT OCASSION (that's the context)Look at John 16:29 "you are speaking CLEARLY AND WITHOUT FIGURES OF SPEECH". Jn 10:24, 25 If you are the Christ tell us PLAINLY. I DID TELL YOU..." Do you think the Lord's Prayer is a parable or figure of speech? Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
I am not looking for an argument, just to clear up misunderstandings; the Catholic Church's official teaching has never been that Jesus was sacrificed again. Unfortunately, there are too many miscommunications that separate Christians.
irishcatholicgirlie 3 years ago
The Bible warns us not to be literalistic. "We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:6) "The letter kills, but the spirit gives life." (2 Corinthians 3:6) Jesus Himself always spoke in parables (Matthew 13:34) and figurative language (John 16:12,25), and when His disciples interpreted His sayings literalistically, He said, "You people of little faith? ... Don't you understand?" (Matthew 16:7-12)
quierover11 4 years ago
You don't understand Scripture. "Letter" means "Law" "Spirit" means "Gospel". Jesus did not always speak in parables (sermon on the mount). Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
Jesus warned us not to be legalistic. We are to accept His Word.
AnHonestChristian 4 years ago
You are not alone. Many have done the same thing once they understand the Real Presence in the Supper. Thanks. Pastor Lassman
nschaub 5 years ago