Ethanol is already in gas you get at the gas station at up to a 10% mix, newer cars are built to run at 85%, you can safely run a 65% mix in any car without any modifications. Ethanol is cleaner burning than regular gas. it does not ruin engine parts unless you drive a car built before the late 80s. I produce and use a 75% mix in my 2004 chevy silverado without any problems. Anyone without a felony conviction can get a permit from the government and produce their own fuel. I save nearly $200 a
ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT ETHANOL.. IS IT CHEAPER, CAN WE BEAT THE GOVERNMENT ETC ETC, IT DESTROYS ENGINES,,, DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND THAT BIT ? YOU ARE OK WITH A CAR ENGINE THAT IS UNDER 3 YEARS OLD, ANYTHING ELSE AND TROUBLE MAN, PLASTIC, RUBBER,FIBERGLASS.ALLOY, BRASS, COPPER ALL GET DESTROYED BY THE STUFF, YES IT IS CHEAPER TO MAKE BUT IT FUCKS EVERYTHING, TRUST ME I KNOW, I DESTROYED A LAMBRETTA ENGINE, MELTED OIL SEALS , TOTAL COST FOR REBUILD 600BBP .. IT IS SHIT AND HAS LOW OCTANE TOO=SLOW
ethanol is destroying engines, it runs to hot, it also destroys gas tanks made from fiberglass (bikes scooters) here in UK we are having massive problems with it, modern engines with 6 ECU meters (Toyota's etc ok) an engine over 20 years old is in BIG BIG trouble, trust me ethanol is shit, it also strips off petaseal (petaseal seals gas tanks) about 2 million here in the UK alone, this starves engine of fuel,. runs lean, and seizes up, yea ethanol is pants man, STOP RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL . . .
@extrastype you have to remove all rubber & aluminum out of your fuel system,alcohol actually burns cooler than gasoline, they have had the tech to run cars on alcohol for years,many race cars run on alcohol,it just needs more compression...um supercharger :p alcohol engines can be fun when done right (you just have to ship some rednecks to the uk lol :D
Some idiot said thiat making it at home would be more expensive than any other fuel. Where do these cunts get their "information" from? Do they work for the oil sheiks?
The world MIGHT not have enough cheap biomass to do it..but its a nice diverse energy garden. Thanks. WWIII aint' worth it over oil. We need to get around and do stuff. I hope nobody makes a frankenstein bacteria, either, we don't need to get turned into a booze. lol.
The world MIGHT not have enough cheap biomass to do it..but its a nice diverse energy garden. Thanks. WWIII aint' worth it over oil. We need to get around and do stuff.
That's why ethanol that comes from cellulosic matter is the answer. You dont need expensive sugar because cellulose is everywhere; like trees, grass, leaves etc. Then you use enzymes to break down the polymers into sugars. The sugars then cause fermentation, and after that its distilled. The enzymes used are the same as the enzymes in a cow stomach, which convert grasses to sugars... Search "cellulosic ethanol demonstration" for more details.
Original post from "wojsciech". STAY IN SCHOOL. :D
Ethanol eats hoses and gaskets it also will give you around a 10 percent less mileage as cars are designed to bun gas not ethanol.It costs more, gas is cheep thats why we burn it, its just the taxes that get you.Sugar electricity yeast cost money, have to be made and shipped to you.Not to mention most sugar comes from offshore, It's just another green movements pie in the sky scam.
Unless this contains a reduced fractional distillation column, I doubt the 99.3% he was saying, 94% is more realistic and did he factor in that making alcohol uses more energy than you get? What we need is a system that runs with increased efficiency on a fuel like hydrogen.
please anyone tellme if is cheaper to make a gallon of etanol with this device includeing just the sugar price ( or maby elecricity, but not the cost of machine) i meann cheaper this way than buying gasoline
The only thing you would need to buy is the sugar and yeast. The production of ethanol doesn't use electricity as it's a natural product. The machine, you can do with out. You don't NEED it but I'm sure it would make the process much easier for busy people.
@screwopenborders... Ethanol burns WAY cooler! That's why people convert in there street cars and are able to add more degrees of timing safely! In turn = more horsepower...
"bypass the entire industry"? To my knowledge, there isn't a commercially available pure alcohol engine currently on the market. And, oh BTW, where I live they will put you in jail for doing this. I'm a Hillbilly from Eastern Tennessee.
"bypass the entire industry"? To my knowledge, there isn't a commercially available pure alcohol engine currently on the market. And, oh BTW, where I live they will put you in jail for doing this. I'm a Hillbilly from Eastern Tennessee.
@screwopenborders most of my info on Ethanol comes from Minnesota E85 & Blender Pump Station Directory, and Clean Air Choice Lessons on E85 Ethanol. allot comes from the forums online. I don't have a Flex fuel vehicle, so i had to do a lot of research online before i would put it in my new car. I have been running it in my car for 65000 miles with no problems at all. It is a grate fuel, but make sure your car has new enough hoses. i think any car 1994 or newer is fine, but to be safe look it up.
This guy is an idiot. AND to boot, he never metions the cost of the fuel to boil/distill the alcohol. I could go on, but what is the use. The AP reports this as news...... give me a break.
Lets be scientific about this. Here are some boiling temps.
Acetone 56.5 Celsius
Methanol 64 Celsius
Ethyl Acetate 77.1 Celsius
ETHANOL 78 Celsius
2-Propanol (rubbing alcohol) 82 Celsius
1-Propanol 97 Celsius
Distilling is bringing the wash up to 78, discarding what has distilled to that point, then collecting the hearts at 78 - 81.5. That's an extremely simple explanation, just to clear up any misunderstandings.
Yes, DISCARDED ALCOHOL, as in assholes that buy bottles of liquor when they are at the club, bar, or restaurant, don't finish it, so the establishment CANNOT serve it to another person due to the possibility of it being contaminated, and opened by someone other than the bartender, so THEY THROW IT AWAY! Geez, why aren't you people getting that concept? They won't serve you a bottle that they sold to some jackass who didn't finish it. Go dumpster diving and find out yourself.
absolutely, WRONG to separate water from alcohol you can use gravity to feed it through lines of filters. Also that size of a distiller will produce more than 3 gallons per hour
Any gas car will run on 25% ethanol. most can run on 50%, and some work on 85% -- no changes. A conversion to run on e85+ is easy and costs about $350. We've experimented on many cars. We even started to make ethanol using waste wine from wineries (endless supply) - but getting over 190 proof is very hard.
The biggest problem here is that you get better fuel mileage with gasoline. My ranger gets 21 mpg highway with gasoline,and 16 mpg highway with e 85. Ethenol is not that effecient. My ranger is flex fuel.
@prd185 In the 1970s they used to publish books which showed how to change your car over from gasoline to alcohol. Using propane carburators they were able to boost fuel mileage over ten times gasoline. Basically, over 200 mpg is pretty good in my book.
To produce enough ethanol to replace oil, the world would need to use nearly half its farmland to produce the raw materials. Leading to mass starvation.
ok number 1, cars WILL run off pure booze with minor tweaking of the fuel system ,they run better, cleaner and more efficient. in fact the model T was originally designed to run on ethanol so farmers could make there own fuel. they where later switched because of prohibition. which was the start of big oil. IE John D Rockefeller who got the ball rolling for that. why do you think most performance vehicles use alcohol. its NOT because its better for the environment. even thou it is.
The price of this will cost way more than just buying gasoline for the next few years even at 5 dollars a gallon. Fuck this guy, you can make ethanol at home for free. If you know how to make wine or moonshine then you know how to make ethanol. I'm all for ethanol: it burns cleaner, its cheaper, high octane means better performance. I say make it at home dont but this idiots machine.
lets all take a big look at a movement the U.S is making. Wonder what could be a plant that would create new revenue and be easy to farm and market for cellulose?
@bubbajeasy Home distilling is illegal in the US. So just running one of those without all the proper permits is illegal. Regardless of what you do with the ethanol.
i like how he sprinkles a little sugar in that contraption like salting his fries. it will take a crap load (15 lbs) to make a single gallon of ethanol.
thats why ethanol from cellulosic is the answere you dont need expensive sugar and celluloses is everywhere like trees grass leaves ect. then you use enzymes to breake polymers to sugars and then fermentation and desylation , thouse enzymes are the same thats in the cow stomak thats eats grass and converts it to sugars.... search cellulosic ethanol demonstration
The yield from sugar is no where near enough to make ethanol for $1/gallon. It takes about 15lbs of sugar to make a gallon of pure ethanol. Last I checked you couldn't find sugar for 6 cents a lb.
I would approve of this as long as they take the stuff out of the petrol pumps. Alcohol from corn is a crackpot scheme for money and it's doing a lot of harm. Rising food costs, corrosion to other engines besides automotive and also damage to automotive when water attracts to alcohol. Biodiesel from algae is a much better source of energy all around. There's more energy per liter over gas instead of less like with alcohol. Algae can feed off human waste and carbon dioxide from power plants.
cars will run on Ethanol and i have personally seen some airplanes run on it to. and even if some cars don't run on 100 percent ethanol, blending ethanol is always possible. and it doesn't mater if a restaurant doesn't discard alcohol it is easy to make, i have mixed up some my self.
@flythrough123 , dude...don't be simple. Its a simple conversion on your computer for most cars. I don't know about discarded alchohol....but donuts are plentiful! My 93 dodge truck runs on 100% E-85 with ZERO problems for the last year...try it. Being closed minded and believing what the goverment/mainstream media and car companies tell you would be moronic!
@flythrough123 Actually, you are moronic. The reason alcohol prohibition was done was to protect the oil industry. Cars will run on alcohol. Modern cars require a teflon coating on the cylinder walls as it burns hotter. Pollution control devices would no longer be necessary. Moonshine still with a lime filter at the end makes the best fuel. However, hemp remains the best source for fuel in ethanol and diesel. Which is also why it was banned. Learn your history before you write.
Alcohol prohibition was done away with for a varity of reasons, the two main ones being the gangsters and the great depression. People were fed up with the crime organizations that got their funding from the illegal alcohol trade and A-B convinced the gov to repeal it so that jobs could be created. The only way to get pure ethanol (aka best) is to distill it with benzyne, not filter it through lime. And new biofuels from algae are way more efficient then hemp
@KingSlimjeezy I don't have to learn my history, that was my major. Obviously, you love the official story better, as do most slaves. Were people fed up? Obviously so. It was a law based upon economic, rather than social, reasons. People wanted booze, therefore they bought it. To this day however, you cannot operate a personal distillery for fuel, even if you render it undrinkable by filtering it through lime. And alcohol was offered as a fuel before prohibition. And hemp was prohibited same.
@wingsuitfreak were did you get your degree? Ranken? Because basically everything you said was wrong and close minded and i am having an extremely difficult time believing you were ever educated at all
@KingSlimjeezy Where did you get yours? In the first place, everything I've said is true and based upon facts. In the second place, who gives a shit what a fucking retard like yourself believes?
@KingSlimjeezy Too many ignorant statements made by you to cover in one comment, you fucking slave. Amazing how algae wasn't mentioned at all in the late 1930s as a fuel source. Not that it much matters anymore since the oil industry is quickly finishing off our center of life on this world: the oceans. So tell me Kingsleezyslave, can you "grow" this algae in every area of America? I could go on forever, your ignorance is that profound and arrogant.
@Kitt0000 Since when Ethanol = Alcohol?...first...Alcohol is a family with many members...Ethanol is just one of em...but i assume u meant to say Vodka, which is also wrong. Since Vodka isn't just Ethanol + Purified water...there is also Sugar and other stuff, which vary from a brand to a brand.
@Kitt0000 ethanol doesn't = vodka ... ethanol is drinkable alcohol that is the product of yeast sugar fermentation.... yes vodka has alcohol in it but it isn't straight ethanol .... rum has methanol in it go drink some methanol and see what happens(and yes I'm being sarcastic don't do this you with go blind and possibly die).... I really felt the need for that disclaimer cuz i dont want some kid to go to home depot thinking there gunna get wasted hahahahaha
That is a good question. I think that when you buy this machine you have to obtain a permit to produce under 10.000 gallons per year, and to get that you have to agree to denature it so no one can drink it. My cousin has obtained one of these permits. that being said if an alcoholic is willing to brake the laws and risk alcohol poising, it probably is possible for him to make alcohol for consumption. I would not recommend it. I personally would like to see more alcohol made for cars than people.
This process is labour intensive. This machine will make it easier, but what does it cost, will it make sugar prices increase? There are some fundamental problems this addresses and creates.
why would they be out of their mind? is there something wrong with recycling? or is that too un american for you? excessive wastefulness is what's responsible for your countries current financial problems.
no you DRINK the 'discarded' alcohol coz the alco in the uk is fuckin over expensive. What has being americian got to do with anything? i recycle all my packaging and i am NOT americain
hi you can buy food grade petrolum alohal in small quantities ,and also 200 proof alchal from suppliers , and yes do pay the ATF tax like we did . so the don,t crah in your front door . If you pay their tax , they have no reason to show .
@DrMotorDude The same restaurants that DON'T serve bottles bought and handled by customers, who may have drank from the bottle, or contaminated it somehow. Do you get it now? They usually take that used liquor and dump it down the drain, because I don't think you would appreciate buying a shot, and being served with some shit that may have someone elses spit, or herpes virus on the nozzle, all because the establishment was too cheap to discard used booze that someone else handled. Just sayin.
I wonder how it gets around the distilling laws. You must either distill to a level that makes the alcohol fit for human consumption (compliance with all regulations and paying the ATF tax included) or you must denature the alcohol (poison it with methanol or something else)
maybe becouse he's not doing any of the actual work, the mashiene is, he's just adding ingreadients.. just a guess though. plus I don't think making homemade alcohol is illeagal.. selling it is. (without a permit)
I looked into that. The ATF wants its pound of flesh and if you poison the ethanol they will regulate it so you don't ever "forget" to poison a batch.
Yeast and sugar only goes to those 12-15% yes. But if you listened in the video, he mentioned it got distilled! 99.3% alcohol might be a small amount from the 15% alcohol mixture, but the mixture is mixed with water and yeast, so its much more thin.
Alcohol does not burn quickly to the end of being explosive. Take a bottle of Bacardi 151 with less than 1/3 of the rum left and hold a flame near the mouth of the bottle to light it. It will blow torch for a few seconds and then go out. Take the same bottle and put the same amount of gasoline in it and you will be hit with shards of glass.
@brianninneman Not sure about you, but I don't want to drink from some bottle that may of had someone elses spit, or mouth on the shit. If I go to a bar, I want good, clean, unused, unhandled by other people who bought the bottle, type drinks. Sure, alcohol is a disinfectant, but I really don't want to drink from someone I don't know.
idk i can make a home made still, save a bunch of money and only spend more time. this machince cost alot and is only limited to how much alcohol is made. if you made a homemade still you could make much more. its a cool idea but alcohol cost more in other areas or seasons. plus cars use amost double a gallon with gas so its actually $2 a gallon instead of $1 if running on pure. only question. can alcohol be made only from sugar, water and yeast? or does it have to be mixed with mash??
its called moonshine! and don't go doing it yourself just yet. it will be banned and policed just like drugs etc. this will drive the cost down also, as they make money from fines and other.
The federal government does not ban the production of alcohol for fuel purposes. Simply submit a 4 page form to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau form TTB F 5110.74 to the TTB. With this approved form you can produce 10K gallons of fuel grade ethanol a year.
Local, county governments can not slacken a federal law but can tighten its requirements.
This ethanol is chemically the same as Moonshine but is denatured when mixed with 15% gasoline, or other fuels.
My idea is also this. Why only one alternate fuel source of ethanol? The cities complain it will add to smog in the inner cities...Why not have Hydrogen in the cities and surrounding suburbs, and Ethanol on the Interstates and in rural areas? We can do this, it isn't rocket science after all.
It's cheaper, cleaner, renewable, burns better, and better for the engine. What's not to love? Less emisions, no knock, no sludge, 70% less emmisions and it works with the Carbon Cycle. Ethanol is great.
Exactly. Not to mention that this requires our farmers to produce more. Which means the Farmers will be "doing good". and when the Farmers are doing good, EVERYBODY'S DOING GOOD (or will be shortly)
Ethanol from corn is not smart. We need to look at biofuels that use cellulose waste that doesn't use up farm lands. Sorry farmers, they are doing good enough selling wheat this year because of all the other farmers who grew corn for ethanol. The best source for cellulose would be algae, which can be grown indoors and under controlled conditions. Look up Vertigrow.
Yeah. Corn is nowhere near the top of the list when it comes to biofuels. We waste so much potential fuel. There is NO waste when you process junk into ethanol. Check out David Blume's "Alcohol Can Be a Gas".
What we've gotta do is use corn today to prepare the market for tomarow. I heard that there is a cellulose ethanol plant being constructed in Georgia (state, not country). This plant has a projected output of over a billion barrels of cellulose ethanol a year. Don't forget switchgrass either. Switchgrass requires no upkeep and can be harvested multiple times a year. You can grow it almost anywhere with almost no irrigation.
Ethanol is already in gas you get at the gas station at up to a 10% mix, newer cars are built to run at 85%, you can safely run a 65% mix in any car without any modifications. Ethanol is cleaner burning than regular gas. it does not ruin engine parts unless you drive a car built before the late 80s. I produce and use a 75% mix in my 2004 chevy silverado without any problems. Anyone without a felony conviction can get a permit from the government and produce their own fuel. I save nearly $200 a
Allenmakestherules 1 month ago
this video is a rip, just like the fucking oil companys. its just someone wanting your fucking money
extrastype 1 month ago
ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT ETHANOL.. IS IT CHEAPER, CAN WE BEAT THE GOVERNMENT ETC ETC, IT DESTROYS ENGINES,,, DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND THAT BIT ? YOU ARE OK WITH A CAR ENGINE THAT IS UNDER 3 YEARS OLD, ANYTHING ELSE AND TROUBLE MAN, PLASTIC, RUBBER,FIBERGLASS.ALLOY, BRASS, COPPER ALL GET DESTROYED BY THE STUFF, YES IT IS CHEAPER TO MAKE BUT IT FUCKS EVERYTHING, TRUST ME I KNOW, I DESTROYED A LAMBRETTA ENGINE, MELTED OIL SEALS , TOTAL COST FOR REBUILD 600BBP .. IT IS SHIT AND HAS LOW OCTANE TOO=SLOW
extrastype 1 month ago
This title is misleading. I was expecting a video on HOW to brew, not what product to buy that brews it for me.
It's always, 'buy my shit', rather than, 'make your own shit'.
Itsmeeman1 2 months ago
ethanol is destroying engines, it runs to hot, it also destroys gas tanks made from fiberglass (bikes scooters) here in UK we are having massive problems with it, modern engines with 6 ECU meters (Toyota's etc ok) an engine over 20 years old is in BIG BIG trouble, trust me ethanol is shit, it also strips off petaseal (petaseal seals gas tanks) about 2 million here in the UK alone, this starves engine of fuel,. runs lean, and seizes up, yea ethanol is pants man, STOP RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL . . .
extrastype 5 months ago
@extrastype you have to remove all rubber & aluminum out of your fuel system,alcohol actually burns cooler than gasoline, they have had the tech to run cars on alcohol for years,many race cars run on alcohol,it just needs more compression...um supercharger :p alcohol engines can be fun when done right (you just have to ship some rednecks to the uk lol :D
jdefabs2112 1 month ago
Screw the rich oilmongers! I'm making my cars some nice homemade bathtub gin
seth5220 9 months ago 2
Some idiot said thiat making it at home would be more expensive than any other fuel. Where do these cunts get their "information" from? Do they work for the oil sheiks?
Riskteven 10 months ago in playlist Ethanol
The world MIGHT not have enough cheap biomass to do it..but its a nice diverse energy garden. Thanks. WWIII aint' worth it over oil. We need to get around and do stuff. I hope nobody makes a frankenstein bacteria, either, we don't need to get turned into a booze. lol.
grubeci 10 months ago
The world MIGHT not have enough cheap biomass to do it..but its a nice diverse energy garden. Thanks. WWIII aint' worth it over oil. We need to get around and do stuff.
grubeci 10 months ago
That's why ethanol that comes from cellulosic matter is the answer. You dont need expensive sugar because cellulose is everywhere; like trees, grass, leaves etc. Then you use enzymes to break down the polymers into sugars. The sugars then cause fermentation, and after that its distilled. The enzymes used are the same as the enzymes in a cow stomach, which convert grasses to sugars... Search "cellulosic ethanol demonstration" for more details.
Original post from "wojsciech". STAY IN SCHOOL. :D
MusicTewns 10 months ago
HEMP BITCHES.... Cheapest, easiest to grow "weed" in the fucking universe.
Oh right, we purposely confused it in the media to outlaw industrial hemp, way to go fucking greed and corruption.
staphinfection 10 months ago
Grape juice and bread crusts....put it in a plastic milk jug and wait about a week. Voila! Hooch.
burchified 11 months ago
@burchified hooch = crap wine which made me sick for bout 2 months
LittleTurtleTV 11 months ago
now drunks will be at the gas station more
davidworld2k6 11 months ago 2
Ethanol eats hoses and gaskets it also will give you around a 10 percent less mileage as cars are designed to bun gas not ethanol.It costs more, gas is cheep thats why we burn it, its just the taxes that get you.Sugar electricity yeast cost money, have to be made and shipped to you.Not to mention most sugar comes from offshore, It's just another green movements pie in the sky scam.
ve3tru 11 months ago
Unless this contains a reduced fractional distillation column, I doubt the 99.3% he was saying, 94% is more realistic and did he factor in that making alcohol uses more energy than you get? What we need is a system that runs with increased efficiency on a fuel like hydrogen.
scienceman64 11 months ago
you can also make ethanol from pot
insanezy 11 months ago
@insanezy i know! OH but remember.. our government is the BEST... wtf
drdoom554 11 months ago
use ethanol but be prepared to reduce the life of your vehicle
soup1223 11 months ago
please anyone tellme if is cheaper to make a gallon of etanol with this device includeing just the sugar price ( or maby elecricity, but not the cost of machine) i meann cheaper this way than buying gasoline
flaviusicafsz 1 year ago
@flaviusicafsz
The only thing you would need to buy is the sugar and yeast. The production of ethanol doesn't use electricity as it's a natural product. The machine, you can do with out. You don't NEED it but I'm sure it would make the process much easier for busy people.
I may start looking into this.
KoFDee 11 months ago
@screwopenborders... Ethanol burns WAY cooler! That's why people convert in there street cars and are able to add more degrees of timing safely! In turn = more horsepower...
2k4terminator 1 year ago
@chevygearhead454.... So just put x amount of ethanol and cut it with x amount of premium gas to achieve a 85% mixture.
2k4terminator 1 year ago
gas for ur car and alcohoal to drink
HOW COULD I LOSE!!!
mrBuDD626 1 year ago
you cant run your car on straight alcohol, you have to mix it with gasoline. 85% alcohol 15% gas
chevygearhead454 1 year ago
Its called MOONSHINE. Stop making it scientific.
smultimate77 1 year ago 2
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"bypass the entire industry"? To my knowledge, there isn't a commercially available pure alcohol engine currently on the market. And, oh BTW, where I live they will put you in jail for doing this. I'm a Hillbilly from Eastern Tennessee.
oldfool01 1 year ago
"bypass the entire industry"? To my knowledge, there isn't a commercially available pure alcohol engine currently on the market. And, oh BTW, where I live they will put you in jail for doing this. I'm a Hillbilly from Eastern Tennessee.
oldfool01 1 year ago
Bad thing about ethanol, it burns hotter than gas so you need to find a way to have it burn at a lower temp.
screwopenborders 1 year ago
@screwopenborders ethanol is cooler not hotter. just luck up the BTU difference.
switchgrassfuel 1 year ago
@switchgrassfuel so I take it you know about making ethanol. So where would I find this info?
screwopenborders 1 year ago
@screwopenborders most of my info on Ethanol comes from Minnesota E85 & Blender Pump Station Directory, and Clean Air Choice Lessons on E85 Ethanol. allot comes from the forums online. I don't have a Flex fuel vehicle, so i had to do a lot of research online before i would put it in my new car. I have been running it in my car for 65000 miles with no problems at all. It is a grate fuel, but make sure your car has new enough hoses. i think any car 1994 or newer is fine, but to be safe look it up.
switchgrassfuel 1 year ago
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watch my video on how to make ethanol out of bacon grease and dry erase markers
Killinemdead1 1 year ago
unless your building a racecar you car isn't gonna run on pure alcohol the ecu wouldn't know what too do
kerdawg77 1 year ago
unless your building a racecar you car isn't gonna run on pure alcohol the ecu would know what too do
kerdawg77 1 year ago
This guy is an idiot. AND to boot, he never metions the cost of the fuel to boil/distill the alcohol. I could go on, but what is the use. The AP reports this as news...... give me a break.
HotFries7256 1 year ago
Ohh yes...im gonna make alot of this stuff...umm...for my car of course.
alphakristjan 1 year ago
one for me one for the tank! hick!!!!
evergonge 1 year ago
Your just making moonshine
DoctorTerrorist 1 year ago
Lets be scientific about this. Here are some boiling temps.
Acetone 56.5 Celsius
Methanol 64 Celsius
Ethyl Acetate 77.1 Celsius
ETHANOL 78 Celsius
2-Propanol (rubbing alcohol) 82 Celsius
1-Propanol 97 Celsius
Distilling is bringing the wash up to 78, discarding what has distilled to that point, then collecting the hearts at 78 - 81.5. That's an extremely simple explanation, just to clear up any misunderstandings.
Kitt0000 1 year ago
what a great idea good one
fireicer 1 year ago
this will never be massive because the powers wont allow it, it will steal the biggest earner for them.
membland 1 year ago
make mash distill mash drink mash!
pcblah 1 year ago
Yes, DISCARDED ALCOHOL, as in assholes that buy bottles of liquor when they are at the club, bar, or restaurant, don't finish it, so the establishment CANNOT serve it to another person due to the possibility of it being contaminated, and opened by someone other than the bartender, so THEY THROW IT AWAY! Geez, why aren't you people getting that concept? They won't serve you a bottle that they sold to some jackass who didn't finish it. Go dumpster diving and find out yourself.
phattieg 1 year ago
The only thing this will fuel is my need for alcohol
ZackNormandin 1 year ago
how much is the machine? E fuel microfueler? i am interested in purchasing it.
TheGreenfrog140 1 year ago
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Really cool! I heard they got the money for the project using the method posted at ez-casino(dot)com...
kathiAcevedovimi 1 year ago
@MsBloubul
absolutely, WRONG to separate water from alcohol you can use gravity to feed it through lines of filters. Also that size of a distiller will produce more than 3 gallons per hour
TheEr0401 1 year ago
@TheEr0401 What kind of filter can separate water and ethanol?
vmelkon 1 year ago
Oh, the big oil companies will kill this guy in a heartbeat, if they haven't already.
CraigTube 1 year ago
can i buy 1?
shaunnewebay 1 year ago
I like this concept make it able to process cellulose into ethanol it'll almost be like the Mr fusion in back to the future.
Membrane556 1 year ago
you could make some pretty good shine with one of those!
guitarlord247 1 year ago
Any gas car will run on 25% ethanol. most can run on 50%, and some work on 85% -- no changes. A conversion to run on e85+ is easy and costs about $350. We've experimented on many cars. We even started to make ethanol using waste wine from wineries (endless supply) - but getting over 190 proof is very hard.
damonknutson 1 year ago
Discarded alcohol? This concept is new to me
aseglkj 1 year ago
isn't a drunk car dangerous?
carcrash714 1 year ago
The biggest problem here is that you get better fuel mileage with gasoline. My ranger gets 21 mpg highway with gasoline,and 16 mpg highway with e 85. Ethenol is not that effecient. My ranger is flex fuel.
prd185 1 year ago
@prd185 In the 1970s they used to publish books which showed how to change your car over from gasoline to alcohol. Using propane carburators they were able to boost fuel mileage over ten times gasoline. Basically, over 200 mpg is pretty good in my book.
wingsuitfreak 1 year ago
fact: it takes more natural gas to burn than to produce ethanol.
simracr94 1 year ago
To produce enough ethanol to replace oil, the world would need to use nearly half its farmland to produce the raw materials. Leading to mass starvation.
JesusHChrist2000 1 year ago
ok number 1, cars WILL run off pure booze with minor tweaking of the fuel system ,they run better, cleaner and more efficient. in fact the model T was originally designed to run on ethanol so farmers could make there own fuel. they where later switched because of prohibition. which was the start of big oil. IE John D Rockefeller who got the ball rolling for that. why do you think most performance vehicles use alcohol. its NOT because its better for the environment. even thou it is.
mrgoodcat8x56r 1 year ago
The price of this will cost way more than just buying gasoline for the next few years even at 5 dollars a gallon. Fuck this guy, you can make ethanol at home for free. If you know how to make wine or moonshine then you know how to make ethanol. I'm all for ethanol: it burns cleaner, its cheaper, high octane means better performance. I say make it at home dont but this idiots machine.
jake5344 1 year ago
There Must be something they dont tell us about it.
johnfox1johnfox1 1 year ago
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yes, that that device is highly impractical and only farmers would find it useful
KingSlimjeezy 1 year ago
so i can drink this????
graffsucks 1 year ago
@graffsucks Yes. Unless it has any toxic contaminants, pure ethanol is drinkable.
SSJkiller 1 year ago
lets all take a big look at a movement the U.S is making. Wonder what could be a plant that would create new revenue and be easy to farm and market for cellulose?
CANNABIS! FREE THE WEED!
whitandbolo 2 years ago
@whitandbolo Algae is way more efficient
KingSlimjeezy 1 year ago
Yeah- takes more than than just what is is putting in and i wonder what he is charging for it?
youngsinfo 2 years ago
COOL! Where can I get one for my garage?
avitech77 2 years ago
Im going to school right now and studing the renewable fuels industry. I hope to find a good job at an ethanol plant when im done.
clankyclause 2 years ago 2
wow. i wonder what the criminal charges would be to drink shine from the tap?
bubbajeasy 2 years ago
@bubbajeasy Home distilling is illegal in the US. So just running one of those without all the proper permits is illegal. Regardless of what you do with the ethanol.
purplemutantas 1 year ago
discarded alcohol wtf where i find some of that
iknownothinusefull 2 years ago
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TheEr0401 1 year ago
mostakkor ha ugy vesszül az etanol = vodka akkor a kocsim ku..... a nagy alkesz 100 belök8 littyót:) Nemtudja valaki a mashba mennyi és mi kell?
spityu212021 2 years ago
i like how he sprinkles a little sugar in that contraption like salting his fries. it will take a crap load (15 lbs) to make a single gallon of ethanol.
eldrama1 2 years ago
thats why ethanol from cellulosic is the answere you dont need expensive sugar and celluloses is everywhere like trees grass leaves ect. then you use enzymes to breake polymers to sugars and then fermentation and desylation , thouse enzymes are the same thats in the cow stomak thats eats grass and converts it to sugars.... search cellulosic ethanol demonstration
wojsciech 2 years ago 4
@wojsciech very interesting..... thanks for the infor about the enzymes and cellulosic ethanol demonstration
TheKingmidas222 9 months ago
@wojsciech i have bought 50lbs of sugar for $50 and im assuming that would make a large amount of ethanol BUD
mbs306 8 months ago
The yield from sugar is no where near enough to make ethanol for $1/gallon. It takes about 15lbs of sugar to make a gallon of pure ethanol. Last I checked you couldn't find sugar for 6 cents a lb.
Oheeeoh 2 years ago
I would approve of this as long as they take the stuff out of the petrol pumps. Alcohol from corn is a crackpot scheme for money and it's doing a lot of harm. Rising food costs, corrosion to other engines besides automotive and also damage to automotive when water attracts to alcohol. Biodiesel from algae is a much better source of energy all around. There's more energy per liter over gas instead of less like with alcohol. Algae can feed off human waste and carbon dioxide from power plants.
noname7913 2 years ago 2
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flythrough123 2 years ago 5
cars will run on Ethanol and i have personally seen some airplanes run on it to. and even if some cars don't run on 100 percent ethanol, blending ethanol is always possible. and it doesn't mater if a restaurant doesn't discard alcohol it is easy to make, i have mixed up some my self.
switchgrassfuel 2 years ago
@flythrough123 , dude...don't be simple. Its a simple conversion on your computer for most cars. I don't know about discarded alchohol....but donuts are plentiful! My 93 dodge truck runs on 100% E-85 with ZERO problems for the last year...try it. Being closed minded and believing what the goverment/mainstream media and car companies tell you would be moronic!
aaronready1 1 year ago
@flythrough123 Actually, you are moronic. The reason alcohol prohibition was done was to protect the oil industry. Cars will run on alcohol. Modern cars require a teflon coating on the cylinder walls as it burns hotter. Pollution control devices would no longer be necessary. Moonshine still with a lime filter at the end makes the best fuel. However, hemp remains the best source for fuel in ethanol and diesel. Which is also why it was banned. Learn your history before you write.
wingsuitfreak 1 year ago
@wingsuitfreak you learn yours...
Alcohol prohibition was done away with for a varity of reasons, the two main ones being the gangsters and the great depression. People were fed up with the crime organizations that got their funding from the illegal alcohol trade and A-B convinced the gov to repeal it so that jobs could be created. The only way to get pure ethanol (aka best) is to distill it with benzyne, not filter it through lime. And new biofuels from algae are way more efficient then hemp
KingSlimjeezy 1 year ago
@KingSlimjeezy I don't have to learn my history, that was my major. Obviously, you love the official story better, as do most slaves. Were people fed up? Obviously so. It was a law based upon economic, rather than social, reasons. People wanted booze, therefore they bought it. To this day however, you cannot operate a personal distillery for fuel, even if you render it undrinkable by filtering it through lime. And alcohol was offered as a fuel before prohibition. And hemp was prohibited same.
wingsuitfreak 1 year ago
@wingsuitfreak were did you get your degree? Ranken? Because basically everything you said was wrong and close minded and i am having an extremely difficult time believing you were ever educated at all
KingSlimjeezy 1 year ago
@KingSlimjeezy Where did you get yours? In the first place, everything I've said is true and based upon facts. In the second place, who gives a shit what a fucking retard like yourself believes?
wingsuitfreak 1 year ago
@KingSlimjeezy Too many ignorant statements made by you to cover in one comment, you fucking slave. Amazing how algae wasn't mentioned at all in the late 1930s as a fuel source. Not that it much matters anymore since the oil industry is quickly finishing off our center of life on this world: the oceans. So tell me Kingsleezyslave, can you "grow" this algae in every area of America? I could go on forever, your ignorance is that profound and arrogant.
wingsuitfreak 1 year ago
@flythrough123 um if this is ethanol then it is vary toxic
bungietester1213 1 year ago
Ethanol = vodka
This is a awesome moonshine rig
Kitt0000 2 years ago 31
ethanol+water=vodka
kapsakorsten 2 years ago
@Kitt0000 ethanol does NOT equal vodka
i dare you to put some Popov in your tank and see what happens
KingSlimjeezy 1 year ago
@Kitt0000 Since when Ethanol = Alcohol?...first...Alcohol is a family with many members...Ethanol is just one of em...but i assume u meant to say Vodka, which is also wrong. Since Vodka isn't just Ethanol + Purified water...there is also Sugar and other stuff, which vary from a brand to a brand.
ShadowRayzzz 1 year ago
@Kitt0000 INFOWARSoCOM
mrg00ddude 1 year ago
@Kitt0000 ethanol doesn't = vodka ... ethanol is drinkable alcohol that is the product of yeast sugar fermentation.... yes vodka has alcohol in it but it isn't straight ethanol .... rum has methanol in it go drink some methanol and see what happens(and yes I'm being sarcastic don't do this you with go blind and possibly die).... I really felt the need for that disclaimer cuz i dont want some kid to go to home depot thinking there gunna get wasted hahahahaha
jemkox 1 year ago
@Kitt0000 What a load of fuck. Vodka is distilled potato mash.. ethanol will make you die
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
What's to stop all the alcoholics from filling up a couple gallons of this stuff for $2?
atrizzain 2 years ago
That is a good question. I think that when you buy this machine you have to obtain a permit to produce under 10.000 gallons per year, and to get that you have to agree to denature it so no one can drink it. My cousin has obtained one of these permits. that being said if an alcoholic is willing to brake the laws and risk alcohol poising, it probably is possible for him to make alcohol for consumption. I would not recommend it. I personally would like to see more alcohol made for cars than people.
switchgrassfuel 2 years ago 6
'DISCARDED ALCOHOL" .....blaaa ha ah haaa haaaaaaaaa.
ratheads 2 years ago
LMAO! I know right?? who's gonna discard alcohol?? Take this case of vodka out back and drain it in the gutter, its gone bad!
silverback973 2 years ago
so is ethonol just the same as regular fuel only homemade.
chopmop08 2 years ago
not exactly they just have very similar properties
RazielKain 2 years ago
no it is very different form gasoline, ethanol is alcohol, gas is petroleum
it's about the same thing as whiskey with a little less shit in it
krankiev 2 years ago
lol its basicly moon shine
onnbob 2 years ago
yupp
krankiev 2 years ago
Go to your local liquor store and buy a bottle of Everclear. This is MOONSHINE.
Add a bit of gasoline and you have E85.
(What a waste of good booze!)
1MoNoMo 2 years ago
Ethanol is drinking liquor, lol.
UnknownAccount0 2 years ago
no its not. its in liquor.
hellacool45 2 years ago
It is the liquor, dumbass.
UnknownAccount0 2 years ago
no its in the liquor Dumbass
hellacool45 2 years ago
You're an idiot..
UnknownAccount0 2 years ago
This process is labour intensive. This machine will make it easier, but what does it cost, will it make sugar prices increase? There are some fundamental problems this addresses and creates.
mavallarino 2 years ago
Worse problems than creating wars in the Middle East?
1MoNoMo 2 years ago
discarded alcohol? are they out of their mind
exSoviet007 2 years ago 15
why would they be out of their mind? is there something wrong with recycling? or is that too un american for you? excessive wastefulness is what's responsible for your countries current financial problems.
itsumonihon 2 years ago
no you DRINK the 'discarded' alcohol coz the alco in the uk is fuckin over expensive. What has being americian got to do with anything? i recycle all my packaging and i am NOT americain
exSoviet007 2 years ago
hi you can buy food grade petrolum alohal in small quantities ,and also 200 proof alchal from suppliers , and yes do pay the ATF tax like we did . so the don,t crah in your front door . If you pay their tax , they have no reason to show .
dynamicsolutionsllc 2 years ago
BUT IS IT DRINKABLE?
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
short answer yes, long answer no if you re-distill the ethenol and discard the methanol and fusel oils then it is 100% drinkable
maddladdinitup 2 years ago
Sweet.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
yep as long as u just put sugar and yeast and water in it. just dolute it thats like moonshine lol
TimeLord6646 2 years ago
YARRR!
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
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no , you will die
tom1897 2 years ago
I am very curious which restaurants, and clientele, "discard" alcohol.
This is nothing more than propaganda from the ethanol-industrial complex.
DrMotorDude 2 years ago
All of them do but they throw it down the drain.
knowhelpnow 2 years ago
@DrMotorDude The same restaurants that DON'T serve bottles bought and handled by customers, who may have drank from the bottle, or contaminated it somehow. Do you get it now? They usually take that used liquor and dump it down the drain, because I don't think you would appreciate buying a shot, and being served with some shit that may have someone elses spit, or herpes virus on the nozzle, all because the establishment was too cheap to discard used booze that someone else handled. Just sayin.
phattieg 1 year ago
I wonder how it gets around the distilling laws. You must either distill to a level that makes the alcohol fit for human consumption (compliance with all regulations and paying the ATF tax included) or you must denature the alcohol (poison it with methanol or something else)
spikeslawson 2 years ago
maybe becouse he's not doing any of the actual work, the mashiene is, he's just adding ingreadients.. just a guess though. plus I don't think making homemade alcohol is illeagal.. selling it is. (without a permit)
NickBlackDIN 2 years ago
I looked into that. The ATF wants its pound of flesh and if you poison the ethanol they will regulate it so you don't ever "forget" to poison a batch.
spikeslawson 2 years ago
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yeast and sugar will ony go to 14% alcohol. and vodca is expencive! What a load of crap this is.
ryobie1 2 years ago
Yeast and sugar only goes to those 12-15% yes. But if you listened in the video, he mentioned it got distilled! 99.3% alcohol might be a small amount from the 15% alcohol mixture, but the mixture is mixed with water and yeast, so its much more thin.
eliten0Ob 2 years ago 2
What happen if it goes "BOOM"?
Topazman12 2 years ago
uhh then it goes boom!!!
lol
:P
animebsd 2 years ago
Alcohol does not burn quickly to the end of being explosive. Take a bottle of Bacardi 151 with less than 1/3 of the rum left and hold a flame near the mouth of the bottle to light it. It will blow torch for a few seconds and then go out. Take the same bottle and put the same amount of gasoline in it and you will be hit with shards of glass.
spikeslawson 2 years ago
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Can you say "SCAM"?
what a load of crap!
MrBillTroop73 3 years ago
How about piping it to a spigot in the kitchen?
temple26797 3 years ago
Who would discard alcohol? XD
brianninneman 3 years ago 2
You ever work at a bar? We throw away 25 gallons a night.
Luvanicebum 3 years ago
why?
altoids18ROX 2 years ago
Why don't you steal the alcohol you throw away?
haha.
Man, I wanna work at a bar now.
benjaminIsBreaking 2 years ago
I worked at several bars and we rarely discarded alchohol.
Adom 2 years ago
why? What's left in glasses???
metalpsalm 2 years ago
Man, drunk people leave whole beers.
Half beers with butts in em'. When people
get cocked, they forget everything.
We really do discard at least 10 gallons on a Friday or Saturday night.
Luvanicebum 2 years ago 4
@brianninneman Not sure about you, but I don't want to drink from some bottle that may of had someone elses spit, or mouth on the shit. If I go to a bar, I want good, clean, unused, unhandled by other people who bought the bottle, type drinks. Sure, alcohol is a disinfectant, but I really don't want to drink from someone I don't know.
phattieg 1 year ago
fucking brilliant! it would sell 100times better if you can distill pure ethanol from it as well.
sturmgeist1819 3 years ago
WE NEED BUTANOL IT IS LESS COROSSIVE
marter71 3 years ago
not smart for the little man we can make free fuel and u probably dont like it but the sugar is not a good moonshine making method
giant648 3 years ago
idk i can make a home made still, save a bunch of money and only spend more time. this machince cost alot and is only limited to how much alcohol is made. if you made a homemade still you could make much more. its a cool idea but alcohol cost more in other areas or seasons. plus cars use amost double a gallon with gas so its actually $2 a gallon instead of $1 if running on pure. only question. can alcohol be made only from sugar, water and yeast? or does it have to be mixed with mash??
1978rm125 3 years ago
you can make neutral spirits (vodka, shine) just from sugar water and yeast.
grlz13 3 years ago
PLEASE let me know how much for one?
babytaz2yo 3 years ago
10,000
go to the website
Fruehdom335 3 years ago
how much is the micro fueler?
ConorC96 3 years ago
its called moonshine! and don't go doing it yourself just yet. it will be banned and policed just like drugs etc. this will drive the cost down also, as they make money from fines and other.
mr2ya 3 years ago
The federal government does not ban the production of alcohol for fuel purposes. Simply submit a 4 page form to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau form TTB F 5110.74 to the TTB. With this approved form you can produce 10K gallons of fuel grade ethanol a year.
Local, county governments can not slacken a federal law but can tighten its requirements.
This ethanol is chemically the same as Moonshine but is denatured when mixed with 15% gasoline, or other fuels.
SolarAmp 3 years ago
WTF? GEE, thanks for explaining the 15% thing. LOL
sure, nows its legal, not what i meant.
when it becomes mainstream, the government will ban or police it someway inorder to make more money off of it. therefor driveing the cost down.
just wait and see.
mr2ya 3 years ago
grass is actually better than hemp,.. as funny as that may sound.
spyralspyder 3 years ago
What is the cost of sugar? How much sugar is needed to make1 gallon of gas? Is it really cost effective? moonshiner
tapriver 3 years ago
what an amazing achievement in life.
funnyiseth 3 years ago
My idea is also this. Why only one alternate fuel source of ethanol? The cities complain it will add to smog in the inner cities...Why not have Hydrogen in the cities and surrounding suburbs, and Ethanol on the Interstates and in rural areas? We can do this, it isn't rocket science after all.
Hiei2k7 3 years ago
we don't use hydrogen because it's a gas.
in order to burn in it your car.
you have to modify cars with storage tanks and gas injection system.
You can get almost any car to run on a gas ethanol blend without modification.
zbeast 3 years ago
the Midwestern USA has been running ethanol for years and NOW the rest of the country wants some.
Hiei2k7 3 years ago
It's cheaper, cleaner, renewable, burns better, and better for the engine. What's not to love? Less emisions, no knock, no sludge, 70% less emmisions and it works with the Carbon Cycle. Ethanol is great.
HeadTater 3 years ago 3
Exactly. Not to mention that this requires our farmers to produce more. Which means the Farmers will be "doing good". and when the Farmers are doing good, EVERYBODY'S DOING GOOD (or will be shortly)
Hiei2k7 3 years ago 2
Ethanol from corn is not smart. We need to look at biofuels that use cellulose waste that doesn't use up farm lands. Sorry farmers, they are doing good enough selling wheat this year because of all the other farmers who grew corn for ethanol. The best source for cellulose would be algae, which can be grown indoors and under controlled conditions. Look up Vertigrow.
MountainDeW06 3 years ago 3
Yeah. Corn is nowhere near the top of the list when it comes to biofuels. We waste so much potential fuel. There is NO waste when you process junk into ethanol. Check out David Blume's "Alcohol Can Be a Gas".
billybbob18 3 years ago
What we've gotta do is use corn today to prepare the market for tomarow. I heard that there is a cellulose ethanol plant being constructed in Georgia (state, not country). This plant has a projected output of over a billion barrels of cellulose ethanol a year. Don't forget switchgrass either. Switchgrass requires no upkeep and can be harvested multiple times a year. You can grow it almost anywhere with almost no irrigation.
HeadTater 3 years ago 2