Queen of England Visits College of William and Mary

[closer71]

Pretty cool. Too bad she didn't come for my graduation (class of 1995); that would've been something, I guess...

[jkhallenborg]

Dear Everyone, Shut up and appreciate something that will probably not happen for another 300 years. Pity the girl filming was such a TWAMP.

[shutoman7]

Dear Epictetus, whatever your views on the monarchy and Britain - you should perhaps think also of the signs posted in buses in the US in the 1960s before claiming any moral high ground.

[Thatcher82]

Well I think you care rather a lot otherwise you wouldn't be attempting to write to me. I'm not suggesting even that you learn the Queen's English (now that would be pompous) but simply to learn how to have a useful and productive exchange of views without being vulgar or abusive. Try it in Spanish?

[HW50]

anyway all these idiots losing their mind over some elderly old bag is pretty humorous- and somewhat disturbing

[Epictetus2008]

I agree.

I also agree that English is not the nicest language and has killed many better ones. I wuz being kind to Thatcher82 when I called it a lovely language.

If Thatcher82 wants to keep the royalty so desperately...it is to cover up the loss of the Empire and the fact that they are just a curry-eating small island country now.

Long ways from the days they had signs/posts in parks in Africa and India that said " Dogs and Indians/Africans not allowed"

[Thatcher82]

How do either of you know it's a lovely language when you can't write it properly? Can I suggest you take some lessons to broaden your vocabularies and then that may (just may) broaden your outlook to being able to respect the views of others.

[Epictetus2008]

thatcher82:

I am writing American English...perhaps you should learn it...it is down to earth and doesnt sound so pompous like your English.

You can "suggest" anything you want....U think i care??

Maybe you should learn to respect the people who have been killed and tortured and discriminated by the stupid British Empire and Monarchy. But then I doubt you know what it means to respect anything except your dumb monarchy!

[ruffradio105]

What is American English? You're the only country to try and change the language! Or does Australian English, African English, Indian English....exist? No. Just a nation who are to dumb to realise that colour is spellt with a U. Just because we don't speak ghetto (yes ghetto is spellt with a H) doesn't mean we're pompous! Wanker

[LordCook95]

It's also pretty disturbing to see the disrespect shown to a woman who served in WWII and then spent the next 50 years tirelessly doing whatever her (extensive) duties required, politically or otherwise.

[HW50]

the british are the most brutal race of genocidal savages in human history- just the expanse of their reach- from on side of the globe to the other- is breath taking- you do not accomplish such dominance through anything less than savagery- the world was cursed the day some english troll figured out how to get off the island

[LordCook95]

I really don't see their philosophy or attitude as any different from other nations. The only difference is that the British succeeded where others didn't. Every single nation in history has done things that could be called nothing other than savage. So? How does that make them any different?

[Thatcher82]

I think the arrogance maybe is coming from your side. Don't forget, after the revolutionary war the americans wanted to keep the British slaves and it was the friends of william wilberforce who liberated many of them, firstly via Nova Scotia and then all the way back to west africa. How's that for arrogance? Si los britanicos no habian capturado a la florida en 1764 hubiera sido siempre espanol. Lo que sugeri era que tal vez la lengua castellana pudiera haber sido situado en lugar del ingles.

[meroyn]

The Queen is of huge economic importance ti Britain, bringing in over a billion pounds (2 billion dollars) from tourism. more than that she represents all the qualities Britain held a long time ago and have since disappeared, dignity, politeness, calm.

[Epictetus2008]

So now the QUeen is a money making whore for the UK? And you think you can cover up the extraordinary ugliness of todays culture by having a dignified face represent the UK. People are not such suckers you know.....it dosent help. Royalty and all that is a shame continuing the past. Let it go. A starving kid from Africa is worth more to man and god than a vain pompous queen. Pride is a cover up for your hollowness and emptiness inside.

[Epictetus2008]

Kiss American ass and fight stupid wars for Bush...the UK might as well be the 51st state of the United States.

The Queen is a bitch who is screwing the people of the UK using taxpayer money and also money stolen during the time of the Empire or Raj!

God kill the queens and all other shameless people who take food from the mouth of the poor!

[Thatcher82]

Don't tell us that you piece of low life - tell those fawning compatriates of yours above - by the way when it's feeding time do you take buns through the bars of your cage?

[Epictetus2008]

Thatcher82:

Your language is quite entertaining...i can imagine a cockney accent coming thru it. Did you know your Queen bitch killed her daughter in-law, the hotty Diana...mafia style?????

They could open soup kitchens that could be funded for life if she gave up her throne and all that ill-gotten wealth that is hoarded in there and you know it is true, dont you?

[Thatcher82]

So you've almost stopped swearing - OK - so you're entitle to an abuse free opinion and response. The royal family spend much of their time associated with charities in aid of the less fortunate - can the same be said for your super-rich? Let's face it we've all got super-rich the only difference is that ours seized all the lands 1000 years before yours and created a feudal system that has gradually unwound over time doesn't mean everyone is "a bitch" or a murderer..

[Epictetus2008]

I do appreciate your sense of humor.....If you think about it carefully, Charity (that is giving charity) is an awful thing. If you have more money than you need, then it is ill-gotten. Giving away what never belonged to you is not a profound act of kindness. Only rich people give away money and they give it away because they dont need it. When you dont have anything or have little and share...Ah. that is almost divinity. You wont become great or famous for it though.

[Thatcher82]

An act of charity is not such an awful thing surely - especially from the impecunious? Think you're confusing it with philanthropy. At any rate the Queen traces her antecedents back to the heptarchal kings of Wessex which itself traces its own roots a further 3500 years back to the early Stonehenge. Why can't we be proud of that like you are of your history?

[Epictetus2008]

No confusion here and nothing to be proud about. As human beings we have committed atrocious crimes against nature and ourselves unlike any other species. Lets not pretend to better than any animal with souls and gods and royalty. Its all a silly cover up. Lets be honest and clear about what we are and see ourselves clearly and maybe we might be disgusted with what we see and change. The past is dead, a scab, let it fall off along with ones vanity.

[Thatcher82]

It is true that you can see the same set of events with depressing introspection but if you cut yourself off from your history then that's surely a profound error. Maybe you should come over and take in some of the essence of our common history, its connections with its physical and spiritual surroundings, its historical characters known and not well known, stoic ancient peoples and Arthurian ideals and you may even change your mind. Who knows.

[Epictetus2008]

Thatcher82:

I've been to the UK 4 times sofar....Its a nice place, i have no problem with it.

I will still insist on ridiculing royalty, nobility and all that crap along with the intelligent educated Britons. That will not change. I spit on anyone who thinks they are above regular human beings....I strongly think it is a shame that people are not independent enough and able to think of themselves as equal to any other. Thus it is.

[Thatcher82]

I have been to the USA several times too and would not bring myself to ridicule a system that we started to copy ourselves in 1832. We don't think we're any less equal (maybe we used to until 1776 and beyond too) but not now. That does not mean we want to throw it away either. Elizabeth II is the direct descendent of nearly all our monarchs, good and bad, for the last 1500 years - why would we wish to terminate that link?

[Epictetus2008]

Hold on to the past: but then you cannot pick and choose your memories...remember the tremendous evil the British empire has done to the world, selling opium for tea, shooting protestors in Africa and India, raping the Scotish people...plundering the world...discriminating based on race...in addition to building railroads and other projects but always using the money and resources of the countries they ruled. Remember the good and the bad. Or forget it all and say you are just a human being!

[Thatcher82]

since when has building railroads and dams been evil? If it weren't for the empire you would have even more difficulty communicating with us because you'd be speaking Spanish.

[Epictetus2008]

Thatcher82:

I was pointing to the "good" things the British are attributed to have done which is building roads and railways and spreading their lovely language. I say that with a Caveat that even that was done using what can be pretty much called slave-labor or sweat shop labor by today's standards.

The price to communicate easily is 100's of years of oppression.??..is that what you say!!!?

Wow! What arrogance....you think the world couldnt/cant survive without the British or anyone else???

[HW50]

actually english is a very harsh and colorless language- it's a shame how many of the worlds languages have been lost due to the spread of english

[ruffradio105]

Wow, you're an idiot!!! Also to the comment below...what about the Vikings, Romans, French, Belgian, Spanish, Austro-Hungarian - empire's etc...I guess they conquered other countries by sending flowers and asking politly!? Anyway how many languages do you speak?

[Epictetus2008]

Thatcher82:

Do get over your arrogance, both a Britisher and a human being. As humans, we are not as special as we think (having a soul and a God and all that crap). Our significance is overstated and is the unfortunate cause of much of the harm we do to the environment and each other. If you find the eyes to see the truth or actuality of things, it would invoke great humility for our place on earth and we would respect all species and each other in a newfound way.

What's wrong with Spanish?

[meroyn]

and where have you been, London perhaps? Britain has changed, we dont rule the world, thats americas job now. I'm not particulaly smart either,as you say, i am a hippocrit, idoliser and ignorant set in my ways, but you have also said you will not change your views. i said nothing about copying the US, + how can you excell without being better then someone else? how can you be stupid without comeone being smarter? USA has wealth and class divisions even if you dont accept that.

[Epictetus2008]

Comparison hurts, comparison sows the seeds of envy, hate and jealousy. It has created this competitive society that we are all so proud of. And it dosent matter that our stupid religions have some truth in them and say..Judge not for ye be judged.....etc, etc.

It is possible to be good for goodness sake and be excellent without begging for recognition. Paint a picture and show it to noone, help someone and speak not about it to others.

[meroyn]

please listen to me, as a briton, i was born into a poor family in London, but, i am headint to a top university next year in Nottingham (pronounced hem not ham), i can say stuff the queen if i like, i can do what i like, but as you love your country, so i love mine

[meroyn]

your incredibly unhinged from society - if you believe that even exists. Why can't we have a ruler? animals have leaders, apes, lions, wolves, why not us? The past may be dead where you are but its very alive in Europe. I see no point in argueing with you, your are clealry too melencholic for a proper conversation.

[Thatcher82]

Meroyn, I think what our friend is mixing up are the nauseatingly background noises of this video (enough to make me bring up my last meal ... but who am I to stifle someone's evident raptures?) with equal sycophancy he thinks we attach to the same person.

[meroyn]

you may be onto something there, perhaps Epictetus understands the difference between America and UK now

[Epictetus2008]

Well, live in your past and in your misery. Live like an animal and have your whole family be fucked by the Head Lion and be a part of his "pride". No one will stop ya.

Me, I say put the past aside and live like human beings...not white, black, noble, royal, etc...no need for unnecessary divisions. We are all made of the same stuff. To me this is a positive and true thing.

[meroyn]

The Queen takes no taxpayer money at all, she makes millions by opening her several palaces, and gardens. I would resent being any any part of so called american democracy, America has a twisted version of freedom where ethnic minorites are poorly treated, and a growing gap between hugely rich an extremey poor

[Epictetus2008]

Meroyn: Your Queen has never worked a day in her life....she is living off the people of the UK and stolen goodies from India and Africa. You know that is true dont you? Stop living in illusion and delusion, wake up to the coffee!

[meroyn]

stolen? did she steal them herself? she cannot be held to account for events over 200 years ago? i dont see many Americans blaming themselves for the loss of native indians.

[Epictetus2008]

Meroyn: In America, the land of opportunity, all people are equal...in principle at least. Everybody believes that, ofcourse it is not true in practise, but the principle of it is truth and is goodness. Nobility and Royalty are ugly evil disgusting concepts designed for the stupid and insecure.

[meroyn]

I understand that your culture is weaved in ideals of freedom, equality and oportunity for all. But please think with an open mind, debate a little. The Queen has worked every day of her life, for 50 years. She travels all over the world meeting all kinds of ministers and people, at 81 this is a hard strain on her. I think the idea of nobility and chivalry is not evil, but then, it no longer exists in Britain, modern britain does not have lords of inherited titles anymore

[Epictetus2008]

She has nothing bettter to do. A person on the street and why even Me, would do her job better and not ask for titles or ask to live in a palace.

Having the concept and practice of a class of people as special and above the rest is plain wrong by any logic or philosophy. It is these people who we elevate who will create a lot of problems for us.

[meroyn]

That is hippocracy coming from america who idolise 'celebrities'. Class division gave people someone to aspire to, we cant exist if no-one was better then anyone else - that sounds like communism to me. Bush, why were 2 generations of that family president, doesn't seem democratic. have you ever heard of a poor president? stop attacking traditions that have survived for thousands of years before america was even uttered. you know nothing of the queen, she can't help being born into her job.

[Epictetus2008]

Meroyn: Your logic is now getting bad...you are desperate and saying that since things are being done wrongly in the USA, why not do similar wrong things in the UK!

Dont you have a sense of wanting to be excellent and doing the best without comparison?

What a sad a pathetic life you must lead!

Well keep sucking up to your queen...no one's going to stop you for sure.

[meroyn]

i dont suck up to my queen, but if we didn't have her, what would we have? everything we once had is gone, the Queen is all we have left as a dircet link to our ancestors, please dont take that away from us

[Epictetus2008]

Meroyn-

I dont wish to separate you from the past to which you cling. I only wish to point out that if there is any purpose to life, it is to realize what an incredible intelligent being a human being (like you) is. And to be able to stand alone (psychologically speaking) without the aid of the crutches of religion, royalty or any kind of authority. One must question everything and come to the truth of what life really is. Right now most of us are living crippled by society.Have a good life.

[duffymcduffer]

as a British people we do not cower under anyone. the Queen is a dignified all British person who represents Britain are 1000s of years of history are culture and Britains world class reputation. I am proud to call her my Queen rather than a corrupt politician!

[Epictetus2008]

What sort of pathetic human beings bow and treat a bunch of ugly people as special and royal and above them! Dont the British have any sense of dignity and pride? They seem to want to cower down to some extraordinarily ugly (physically and mentally) lineage of inbreds and suck up to them.

[Thatcher82]

well it's not a British crowd making those fawning noises is it? They weren't ordered to cow tow were they? (Bow down or cow tow..)

[Thatcher82]

sorry I should have written kow tow - which is more or less what is going on the video. By the way no-one insults the Queen and gets away with it!

[Epictetus2008]

Thatcher82:

Really? Everbody insults the Queen...especially most intelligent citizens of the UK. check the other comments about the Queen bitch.

Well, the Empire is finished isnt it? The Royals are fornicating like mink rats and killing their revolting relatives like Di.

The Queen and all her inbred relatives are fucking the poor people of the UK. It wont last mind you...just wait a bit. Eat curry while you wait.

[Thatcher82]

When I said no-one insults the queen and gets away with of course I excluded miscreants ("low life" in your vernacular) so don't worry your little ass! (I feel like Dr Doolittle as "I can talk to the animals...")

[FrostGolem]

God save the queen!

She ain't no human being! (sex pistols)

[victor5812]

And I'm so glad we kicked her worthless monarchy out of our country.

[victor5812]

Fuck the Queen! (Someone has to, Phillip is fucking the chambermaid)

[11OneStepBeyond11]

Victor5812, how do you do.

I'm fucking your mother, so there.

How dare you speak of my Queen in such a way, you utter wanker thou. Goodbye.

[BigFatTonyCal]

Never have I seen so many turncoats in one place.I would give 72 hours for all British Money and corporations to get out of America. We are no longer sending our troops to the middle east to protect your god damed oil.

[Izzmonster]

Good on ya! You shouldnt be there fighting a war that isnt yours, that doesnt make sense!

[KingNordy]

Nice video i've seen her up close once.

[rogerio21111]

quite possibly the most pointless person in the world

[LauraSommer]

Twenty years too late ;)

[sirbooli]

i graduated 7 years too late!

[chilipepper25]

amazing! wish i was there!

[RAQDES]

great

[xpdnc12]

You know what's kind of neat is she visted Jamestown during the last celebration, which was 1957. I think she was only Queen for two years then. Must be a blast for her to come back and try to recollect all this. I love how she talks to just about anyone along the way. Not a nose in the air at all.

[DavidTL]

She was Queen in 1952 just to clear that up. But yes, it must have been quite amazing to visit such a historic settlement especially after she had been there over 50 years ago.

[livardo]

wow, you were very close to her!