Too bad Raven doesn't have a cameo in the other games, only his doll. I was expecting him to come to Snake somewere in the fourth game as a sprit, but no, only the female Raven is available. Maybe when David is in the brink of death he will show up. hahaha
@usanto you know i realised somthing, on mgs4 theres a really important message on the eva telling the story about snake being her son. theres a flash back of ravens wise word ''The Blood from the east flows within you veins' and eva had easten blood...woah cool... :)
4:21 BEST PART!!!!!!great music, and raven it's too cool and for the best boss!!"the path you walk on has no end,no matter how far you go...or how many corpses you crawl over...the killing will never end!!"..in italian it's also nice "il sentiero che percorri non ha fine,ogni tuo passo poggia sulle carcasse dei tuoi nemici...le loro anime ti perseguiteranno per sempre...non avrai mai pace...ascoltami snake!il mio spirito,ti osserverà"!
I think he was, in the end (before he was eaten), it wasn't very clear what was causing him to die, so im just gonna pass it off onto foxdie. (although getting shot probably helped)
**SPOILER, DONT READ IF YOU ARE PLAYING MGS1 OR MGS4
Raven wasn't affected by FoxDie because his DNA wasn't in the black list of FoxDie. FoxDie was created by Naomi Hunter, who was working for the Patriots. FoxDie only affect specific targets, and the targets of FoxDie were: Decoy Octopus, Baker(Pres. of ArmsTech), Liquid Snake, Solid Snake and Big Boss
Indian means from India. The only reason why NATIVE AMERICANS were called Indians is because of the misconception of area of the first pioneers. Everyone knows that, and still refer to Native Americans as Indians. retarded
Vulcan at the end was wrong, at the end of MGS4 Snake finnaly ends his last mission and rests from a promise he made to his father Big Boss before he died on top of his mentor The Boss.
Even though the original PSX of this cutscene had better voice acting, I like this version a lot better due to the changes in Raven's tone and the music that goes along with it.
@filipeflower Despite the voice being very different Peter Lurie still voices him in this too but yes I agree I prefered the original voice he gave him. "This is ravens territory" was well executed in the original but ah I still like both versions of the game :)
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well it looks cool but it really sucks its a 20mm wich no man in the world can shoot in semi-automatic much less in rapid full-auto and its just as innaseserey as a desert eagle.
snake should have took ravens gun? i can barely imagine snake holding this gun, it's too heavy for snake, he is not as big and massive as vulcan raven is.
not neccisarily....the rest of the guards could be complete nimrods and will think that a guy hefting a giant-ass machine gun is probably a duck or something....that would be SO funny if it worked out like that!
If the Raven had to walk while carrying it, Snake would be able to fly around with it.
Or, in the other way of saying it, Raven would have had to be able to sprint with it spun up and firing for Snake to be able to shoot it without becoming a beacon due to the wild kick.
But you still don't understand! Solid Snake wouldn't be able to lift that up. Vulcan Raven can, because his body was blessed with an abnormal strength.
They tried to make this dialogue "compatible" with the original Japanese dialogue, but that seems a little bit pointless, since they didn't use Japanese voice actors in this game.
I think analyzing the mario universe would prove to be the most difficult of any video game and in knowing such, whos you to say that there is no philosophical meaning in Super Mario even if it wasn't intended.
I don't really think that trying to take philosophical points from a game like MGS is pointless, because the story is really well written, and full of meaningfull words and passages, and it's the same as taking a philosophical point from a movie or a book, or even from a song. Believe me, an MGS game is the closest your going to find to a movie in terms of argument, and it's the game were you can learn more about philosophical topics and the reality and meanings of life.
I wish they could have created an extra fight for this remake. A bonus fight (separated from the real story) against Decoy Octopus. We never got the chance to really meet him.
The CIA sent Big Boss to kill The Boss. A person that fought exactly like the boss did. In a way they send the Boss to kill the Boss.
Big Boss wanted to create his own world, one that could have destroyed the Patriots. The only solution, create a soldier who exactly was the Boss. And when Solid Snake killed him, he became cursed. A war machine.
I like Ravens orginal speach, something like, "the path you walk on is paved with the peoples lives you have taken, it has no end" something like that, and for MGS psone graphics, still sets the theme well
His original speach was " The path you walk on has no end, the path you walk on is paved with the corpses of you're enemies, ut's a future without hope"
In the Twin Snakes: "The path you walk on has no end, no matter how far you or how many corpses you crawl over, the killing will never end, it's a future without hope"
so you reckon the created the clones to defeat big boss, nah, they wanted more people like him, and infiltration unit like fox, if they wanted him dead they could have just used the money they would have spent on like a nuclear bomb and just wip out him (and everything arround him), or something
P.S. who thinks that gray fox would like being revived, or like cloned or something so he could fight along snake and not be like a psycho a need "the medicine"
Please, Like killing BB is that easy. Besides a Nuclear attack is something the whole world is gonna see, they would need to keep it under close doors. And sending an agent tha would be able to kill him. And
no they should bring Gray Fox back. He already played out his greatest role.
thats was another throry I had, because fox had a thing for a girl of Asian background, and because Big Boss is half Japanesse half American, (born in Hawii) that means solid is mixed, and cause Raiden is in the S3 lan, maybe they wanted somone of mixed enthcity aswell,
do you have quotes and stuff to support your cliam?
lets think of genetic memorary, solid has cqc genetic mem (CQC) and so maybe Raiden does of using a sword, also, both are blonde, and a little bit asian in apperance. and I heard fox had a love interest that eventually fell of the grid.
Actually...its "The Path you walk on has no end. Each step you take is paved with the corpses of your enemies. Their souls will haunt you forever. You shall have no peace."
What do you mean the tanker? that is just a little fanservice, it's not like he manipulated the world into making a figurine of himself or something O_o. though...I do agree about the young snake moment =)
Well yes, that is the main idea, but that point is of logistic matter. That was something that I like to think that in a way Snake was haunted by the warriors he killed. Unlike the others Raven was diferent. He sought not his end but another existence. In some tribes it is well known that Fallen warriors live on through the opponent that defeated them.
glad someone notices and remembers thoose things. you know its super sition thing that if you see on Raven/Crow looking at you its bad luck, but if you see 2 its good, 3 and 4 means somethings aswell
Thanks. And yes that is one of the greatest known superstition known. Ravens are also depicted to be symbols of Death but there just scavengers. Birds that feed on an easy meal.
yep, it's been a major theme since MG2 that all of the great warriors who have become legendary have no end in battle, no end in death. It's such a great plot theme, though tragic and sad.
remember in number 3, the boss said the one who wins will enhirt the title boss and face an endless life of battle (or something) well snake beat Big Boss, and thats what happened to him
"To become the best you have to beat the best" I think that is the main idea when this(I guess you can call it curse) is passed on.
I've been watching MGS portable OPS and I believe that the Les enfant terrible was a procject that the PAtriots started. They became afraid of Big Boss And since they coudn't find anyone that could kill him
umm..... take the gun
davidmvue3 3 months ago
:O you said the "Angel of Death" just add White before the angel... and that should involve Dragunov ^^
ThePhantomBladeGirl 4 months ago
really, those crows were starving as hell. they could be worse than piranhas
themrmustazz 10 months ago
Those ravens were hungry than a motherfucker!
Ebvardh 10 months ago
The most epic scene in this game starts at 3:41....you can reaaaally feel the epicness
FELO151 1 year ago
Blane from Predator is the precursor to all these gatling/mini gun characters. Raven and The Heavy walk in Blane's footsteps.
IknowWhatImherefor 1 year ago
Click the cc button at the bottom and select "transcribe audio". XDDDDDDDDDD
mattsme 1 year ago
whats the name of the song when vulcan is eated by reavens?
gearsikaroz 1 year ago
Raven was one of the most memorable characters in the whole series. at least in my thoughts
AtoliHydra 1 year ago
lol Decoy Octopus has tiny ears
dualOne01 1 year ago
Too bad Raven doesn't have a cameo in the other games, only his doll. I was expecting him to come to Snake somewere in the fourth game as a sprit, but no, only the female Raven is available. Maybe when David is in the brink of death he will show up. hahaha
usanto 1 year ago
@usanto you know i realised somthing, on mgs4 theres a really important message on the eva telling the story about snake being her son. theres a flash back of ravens wise word ''The Blood from the east flows within you veins' and eva had easten blood...woah cool... :)
DesiGuNDaM 1 year ago
@DesiGuNDaM That's immediately what I thought when I saw it. -.-
mattsme 1 year ago
I loved this guy and Psycho Mantis. "HEAR ME SNAKE! MY SPIRIT WILL BE WATCHING YOU" :3
awilla89 2 years ago 4
@awilla89 well if hes watching he could make himself useful like the sorrow who gave (naked) snake hints
SonicMatrix64 1 year ago
kind of weird but for some reason vulcan raven reminds me of lexaus from kingdom hearts
aislyn10 2 years ago
The part where Vulcan Raven takes off Decoy Octopus' mask. Is that enough for you? No go check it out.
filipeflower 2 years ago
WRONG! Play the original game again!
filipeflower 2 years ago
The original game also shows that.
filipeflower 2 years ago
4:21 BEST PART!!!!!!great music, and raven it's too cool and for the best boss!!"the path you walk on has no end,no matter how far you go...or how many corpses you crawl over...the killing will never end!!"..in italian it's also nice "il sentiero che percorri non ha fine,ogni tuo passo poggia sulle carcasse dei tuoi nemici...le loro anime ti perseguiteranno per sempre...non avrai mai pace...ascoltami snake!il mio spirito,ti osserverà"!
OldSnake1986 2 years ago
Damn, those Ravens porked OUT!
Thesixthgoon 2 years ago 3
Good question. Why wasn't he?
nycboy486 2 years ago
My guess; He died before foxdie could come into place.
masterbrawler111 2 years ago
Hmm.....so why wasn't Raven affected by FoxDie?
whyemceeay 2 years ago
I think he was, in the end (before he was eaten), it wasn't very clear what was causing him to die, so im just gonna pass it off onto foxdie. (although getting shot probably helped)
meljinator 2 years ago
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jeancgmaia 2 years ago
**SPOILER, DONT READ IF YOU ARE PLAYING MGS1 OR MGS4
Raven wasn't affected by FoxDie because his DNA wasn't in the black list of FoxDie. FoxDie was created by Naomi Hunter, who was working for the Patriots. FoxDie only affect specific targets, and the targets of FoxDie were: Decoy Octopus, Baker(Pres. of ArmsTech), Liquid Snake, Solid Snake and Big Boss
jeancgmaia 2 years ago
what about Solidus Snake???
dualOne01 1 year ago
Why does EVERYONE in this game take like a hour to die?
worksa7 2 years ago 4
And the whole time they read their 400+ page autobiography to Snake.
*sigh* Japanese writers... what can you do...
JawboneGD 2 years ago 4
I don't think he was eaten, must've been some way of disappearing, I mean, how would ravens eat the bones?
ImmortalOrochimaru 2 years ago
they arent just ravens
AJlord1 2 years ago
So... you mean they're bone eating ravens?
Ravens that are far beyond than a normal raven
ImmortalOrochimaru 2 years ago
Indian means from India. The only reason why NATIVE AMERICANS were called Indians is because of the misconception of area of the first pioneers. Everyone knows that, and still refer to Native Americans as Indians. retarded
Teenageriot280 2 years ago
he doesnt sound like the originall indian soiunding voice he sound more evil and hate filled
bloodymarriage 3 years ago
What do you mean "indian"? Vulcan Raven is not from India. Or do you mean "Indian" Native American ?
filipeflower 2 years ago
no i mean indian brown skinned from northamerica like me
bloodymarriage 2 years ago
Oh, OKay.
filipeflower 2 years ago
dude hes from alaska ....metal gear wiki sais...
theivmattie 2 years ago
And you think I don't know that?
filipeflower 2 years ago
Vulcan at the end was wrong, at the end of MGS4 Snake finnaly ends his last mission and rests from a promise he made to his father Big Boss before he died on top of his mentor The Boss.
Lol8922 3 years ago 2
You did watch after the credits... didn't you? He takes the gun out of his mouth.
slashslashdotdot 3 years ago
yes. Thats when he promised Big Boss. Naked Son
Lol8922 3 years ago
lol t would be weired if they made another mgs game apart from Rising with Old Snake again.
dualOne01 1 year ago
a very touching scene,along with a very good placed music
alexfung24 3 years ago
eaten by crows... Hell of a way to die.
qwertyuipasdfghjlzxc 3 years ago
ravens.
Teenageriot280 2 years ago
Even though the original PSX of this cutscene had better voice acting, I like this version a lot better due to the changes in Raven's tone and the music that goes along with it.
Gorgabash 3 years ago 6
I don't like Vulcan Raven's new voice. Peter Lurie sounded a little better with the eskimo accent à la Arnold Schwarzenegger.
filipeflower 3 years ago
@filipeflower Despite the voice being very different Peter Lurie still voices him in this too but yes I agree I prefered the original voice he gave him. "This is ravens territory" was well executed in the original but ah I still like both versions of the game :)
Damocles178 8 months ago
It is the same voice actor, but that doesn't mean the voice is still the same.
filipeflower 8 months ago
@filipeflower yep; I know that.
Damocles178 8 months ago
@Gorgabash better voice acting? Dude, every character has a stupid cliche voice in the psx version.
WelcomeToTheNextLvl 1 year ago
Gears of war plantently stole the raven idea from this, and just changed the name to krill.
Huggi9 3 years ago
or maybe pitch black??
JAKx2007 3 years ago
as the name of this version of metal gear?
which I have not played as impressive as the video ...
zerohadcorekinwall 3 years ago
Very great scene
wampastompa1 3 years ago
Why is Vulcan Raven red? :S
AndyBloodtooth 3 years ago
I guess it's a steroid side-effect!
RydersDC 3 years ago
I can't belivle those ravens ate him creepy:(
metalpower 3 years ago
They didn't "eat" him. They consumed him. Transformed him. Understand?
Welther47 3 years ago 4
I really like vulcan raven, he is just so different from the rest from Foxhound.
I bet he and snake would be good friends if they had'nt fought.
kornoporno 3 years ago
because hes black kornoporno? o.o
xRageusx 3 years ago
even though snakes bosses are out to kill him there always so formal about it but there still very honorable in battle
endgame65 3 years ago
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SuckerGamer 3 years ago
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lool
Yoneighbor 3 years ago
That was pointless.
filipeflower 3 years ago 4
'The path you walk on has no end' 4:19
Epic!
The best game ever
ScarfaceAlonso 3 years ago 2
i have a line of metal gear solid the twin snakes vids coming very soon im gonna be using action replay! we are talking metal gear rex in the snowfield but in the meantime watch and subscribe to gyoshimura's videos
chaz84720 3 years ago
That gun reminds me of something from Team Fortress 2...
kupokitty 3 years ago 21
@kupokitty no something in team fortress reminds you of raven's gun .
Batterielevellow 1 year ago
@kupokitty you've just inspired me to try find a way to make a tf2 over voice of raven.
firelord699 1 year ago
@kupokitty Being both a huge fan of TFC and Metal Gear I'm appalled at the comparison between TF2 to MGS. Even one like that.
SuperSirius11 1 year ago
Ravens gun is AWESOME and pwns everyone
zachice 3 years ago
well it looks cool but it really sucks its a 20mm wich no man in the world can shoot in semi-automatic much less in rapid full-auto and its just as innaseserey as a desert eagle.
gunlover1911 3 years ago
Wait a sec, since when does ravens eat skeletons?
simonO712 3 years ago 4
vulcan raven doesnt have a skeleton, its all muscle
linksgun 3 years ago
muscle man
kornoporno 3 years ago
snake should have took ravens gun
bojack99 3 years ago 19
What good would it have done him? He's got too many weapons as it is.
princenoah21 3 years ago
snake should have took ravens gun? i can barely imagine snake holding this gun, it's too heavy for snake, he is not as big and massive as vulcan raven is.
BadBlueBoy213 3 years ago
Exactly why he can't carry it.
filipeflower 3 years ago
stealth would be innpossible!
metallkylling 3 years ago
not neccisarily....the rest of the guards could be complete nimrods and will think that a guy hefting a giant-ass machine gun is probably a duck or something....that would be SO funny if it worked out like that!
TobiMcgoodboy 3 years ago 2
bojack99, that vulcan gun is too heavy for Snake to carry.
filipeflower 3 years ago
If the Raven had to walk while carrying it, Snake would be able to fly around with it.
Or, in the other way of saying it, Raven would have had to be able to sprint with it spun up and firing for Snake to be able to shoot it without becoming a beacon due to the wild kick.
tisbad 3 years ago
But you still don't understand! Solid Snake wouldn't be able to lift that up. Vulcan Raven can, because his body was blessed with an abnormal strength.
filipeflower 3 years ago
Kinda what was implied with a little joking. But besides that, this game rapes the 4th wall. On the Psychomantis thing, they read your memory card.
tisbad 3 years ago
@bojack99 if it was a set with 10 bottles of steroids yes
TheFrankJaeger 1 year ago
@bojack99
that's what i kept screaming to my dad about
"WE COULDA HAD SANDVICHES!"
DullVivid 9 months ago
@bojack99
The Vulcan Cannon weighs roughly 200 pounds. With that belted ammo and the barrel, that's an annex of 200-300 pounds.
Snake is about 130 pounds.
DullVivid 5 months ago
@DullVivid 130 Pounds? He's a medium sized woman? Lol. Try 170-210 with the muscle volume and mass.
jayguy85111 4 months ago
Man eatin to the Bones and Pants not to the gatling gun LOL
Dflowen 3 years ago
Why would Ravens eat a Vulcan gun?
filipeflower 3 years ago
The PS1 version has better voice acting. Why couldn't they just cut and paste the voices from the original onto the Gamecube remake?
jamenapace 3 years ago 5
#1 -Because of the new "Easter Eggs". #2- Because of the Nintendo GameCube controls.
filipeflower 3 years ago
guess all the actors had crappy lives after 1998. they got jaded and tired.
btw, don't you like the Alaskan Shaman chants in the background?
jkdreamer01 3 years ago
No, they didn't! How can you assume such a thing?
filipeflower 3 years ago
it's just a joke man. fuck i wish i get paid money just to record voice acting.
jkdreamer01 3 years ago
That was an offensive joke, man.
filipeflower 3 years ago
the grey for voice acting was worse onn the PS1 because he sounds like the DARPA cheif too much
murkadon 3 years ago
Childlish reasoning.
filipeflower 3 years ago
Jamenapace provese a good point.
x3n0g3ai2s 3 years ago
I already refutated that so-called "good point".
filipeflower 3 years ago
High sampling rate.
Also, Twin Snakes "accents" are canon.
sfried 3 years ago
I wasn't talking to you.
filipeflower 3 years ago
It would be cool if they make a movie ...
boricuasyankee 3 years ago 4
IDK Which has the better dialogue for this scene the original or remake, what Raven tells Snake in this scene is so powerful and haunting
KillaD15 3 years ago 2
They tried to make this dialogue "compatible" with the original Japanese dialogue, but that seems a little bit pointless, since they didn't use Japanese voice actors in this game.
filipeflower 3 years ago
This is why MGS series are so great. Besides being a great series it also teaches you the realities and meanings of life.
AzraelofDeath 3 years ago
I love deep meanings. Humans... Humanity as a whole will never stop the pointless killing. Our path has no end. We'll kill ourselves.
MyEggIsBoiled 4 years ago 8
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YOU KNOW WHATS POINTLESS? TRYING TO TAKE PHILOSOPHICAL TOPICS FROM A VIDEO GAME, THATS POINTLESS!!!!!
anyways metal gear looks good, maybe it could buy the ps1 version, i have a ps1 and a ps2
joseaca 3 years ago
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Super Mario. no stories, no lessons, no philosophical crap. just play.
jkdreamer01 3 years ago
I think analyzing the mario universe would prove to be the most difficult of any video game and in knowing such, whos you to say that there is no philosophical meaning in Super Mario even if it wasn't intended.
eishikibahamut 3 years ago
to joseaca:
I don't really think that trying to take philosophical points from a game like MGS is pointless, because the story is really well written, and full of meaningfull words and passages, and it's the same as taking a philosophical point from a movie or a book, or even from a song. Believe me, an MGS game is the closest your going to find to a movie in terms of argument, and it's the game were you can learn more about philosophical topics and the reality and meanings of life.
moleroge 3 years ago
i love every Metal Gear Solid game, has the best storylines and the best characters,
Respect2000000007 4 years ago 3
Even those made for the MSX system ?
filipeflower 4 years ago
even those. for its era and time though
soulwrappin 4 years ago
I wans't talking to you, but thanks anyway.
filipeflower 4 years ago 2
raven owns!!!!!!!! he carrys such huge weponry kewl
baldguywithanafro 4 years ago
When i was little i always thought you could pick up his weapon after you kill him lol...screw that weak little stinger lol.
LatinoPlayboy619 4 years ago
His Vulcan gun is so heavy that no one will ever take it off the floor. It will remain in that place, like a monument.
filipeflower 4 years ago 5
Or you get a forklift and take it...lol.
Bralor 3 years ago
"She could be working with a different group all together..."
"Different group... It couldn't be!"
Seems like Cambell new about the Patriots before kojima did lol ;)
funkyliciousfunk89 4 years ago 2
I wish they could have created an extra fight for this remake. A bonus fight (separated from the real story) against Decoy Octopus. We never got the chance to really meet him.
filipeflower 4 years ago
"The path you walk on has no end"
best jingle!
Snake10x 4 years ago
embu21 decoy octopus was working with the terroists, he was on their side
worldengage 4 years ago
sooo decoy octopus was the spy or double agent?
embu21 4 years ago
It's too bad we weren't able to talk with Decoy Octopus. I wanted tom know what is he capable of.
filipeflower 4 years ago
The CIA sent Big Boss to kill The Boss. A person that fought exactly like the boss did. In a way they send the Boss to kill the Boss.
Big Boss wanted to create his own world, one that could have destroyed the Patriots. The only solution, create a soldier who exactly was the Boss. And when Solid Snake killed him, he became cursed. A war machine.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
I like Ravens orginal speach, something like, "the path you walk on is paved with the peoples lives you have taken, it has no end" something like that, and for MGS psone graphics, still sets the theme well
camdog27 4 years ago
His original speach was " The path you walk on has no end, the path you walk on is paved with the corpses of you're enemies, ut's a future without hope"
In the Twin Snakes: "The path you walk on has no end, no matter how far you or how many corpses you crawl over, the killing will never end, it's a future without hope"
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
solesurvivor5,
so you reckon the created the clones to defeat big boss, nah, they wanted more people like him, and infiltration unit like fox, if they wanted him dead they could have just used the money they would have spent on like a nuclear bomb and just wip out him (and everything arround him), or something
P.S. who thinks that gray fox would like being revived, or like cloned or something so he could fight along snake and not be like a psycho a need "the medicine"
camdog27 4 years ago
Please, Like killing BB is that easy. Besides a Nuclear attack is something the whole world is gonna see, they would need to keep it under close doors. And sending an agent tha would be able to kill him. And
no they should bring Gray Fox back. He already played out his greatest role.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
you said "no they should" do you mean no they shouldn't,
I reckon Ocelot and Gray Fox are brothers,
camdog27 4 years ago
Not even close. Actually I think Fox is Raiden's father.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
thats was another throry I had, because fox had a thing for a girl of Asian background, and because Big Boss is half Japanesse half American, (born in Hawii) that means solid is mixed, and cause Raiden is in the S3 lan, maybe they wanted somone of mixed enthcity aswell,
do you have quotes and stuff to support your cliam?
camdog27 4 years ago
I sent you two messages. read them and make what you will of my thoery.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
yeah just read 'em
for people reading this,
he puts dates and stuff together showing how Raiden could be the son of Gray Fox and this Chick he liked
except Solidus said he killed his parents (unless it was the foster parents)
camdog27 4 years ago
Raiden's foster father is Solidus Snake, but I don't really think Gray Fox is Raiden's father just because they become Cyborg Ninjas.
filipeflower 4 years ago
filipe,
lets think of genetic memorary, solid has cqc genetic mem (CQC) and so maybe Raiden does of using a sword, also, both are blonde, and a little bit asian in apperance. and I heard fox had a love interest that eventually fell of the grid.
camdog27 4 years ago
Gray Fox isn't blonde.
filipeflower 4 years ago
filipe,
as long as Null and Gray Fox are still the same bloke, something tells me he is.
camdog27 4 years ago
I don't remember seeing Gray Fox with Blonde hair. I think I saw him with gray hair.
filipeflower 4 years ago
filipe,
what about him in portable ops?,
just google Null, or whatever to be more specific, and you get a hweo shot of him with a sword. (do you know about Portable Ops?)
camdog27 4 years ago
I never actually played "Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops". I don't have a PlayStation Portable.
filipeflower 4 years ago
flipe,
neither do I, but thats the beauty of wikipedia, and google, and FAQ's
try doing a bit of web searching
camdog27 4 years ago
Don't tell me what to do, please.
filipeflower 4 years ago
Actually...its "The Path you walk on has no end. Each step you take is paved with the corpses of your enemies. Their souls will haunt you forever. You shall have no peace."
I think the original dialogue is much cooler.
MoezTavern 3 years ago 6
One Bad Thing About MGS is the bosses always help you, like he just gave snake that card. WHY WOULD HE HELP THE ENEMY!!!???
FlamingHomosexualCat 4 years ago
You don't understand the situation, do you? Everytime you defeat a Boss, he looses his will of serving his/her mater.
filipeflower 4 years ago
If anything can be learned from the Taker mission in MGS2. And the trailer in MGS4 is that he kept his oath.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago 2
What do you mean the tanker? that is just a little fanservice, it's not like he manipulated the world into making a figurine of himself or something O_o. though...I do agree about the young snake moment =)
conceitarturo 4 years ago
Well yes, that is the main idea, but that point is of logistic matter. That was something that I like to think that in a way Snake was haunted by the warriors he killed. Unlike the others Raven was diferent. He sought not his end but another existence. In some tribes it is well known that Fallen warriors live on through the opponent that defeated them.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago 2
solesurvivor5,
good work
glad someone notices and remembers thoose things. you know its super sition thing that if you see on Raven/Crow looking at you its bad luck, but if you see 2 its good, 3 and 4 means somethings aswell
camdog27 4 years ago
Thanks. And yes that is one of the greatest known superstition known. Ravens are also depicted to be symbols of Death but there just scavengers. Birds that feed on an easy meal.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
haha xD decoy looks so funny
Ijinzu 4 years ago
in evry metal gear game thers a character with a connection 2 birds,mgs1 raven,mgs2 fortune,mgs3 the end
ebakalli 4 years ago
It's a raven eat raven world out there
asdadogs 4 years ago 2
thats really fast how the ravens ate Raven
GGX9 4 years ago
"The path you walk on has no end. No matter how far you go, or how many corpses you crawl over, the killing will never end."
As I watched Snake tread slowly through the fog, knowing those words were resonating in his head, I shed a tear.
ironmonkey982 5 years ago
especially considering it rings true after seeing the trailers for MGS4
Perion 4 years ago
yep, it's been a major theme since MG2 that all of the great warriors who have become legendary have no end in battle, no end in death. It's such a great plot theme, though tragic and sad.
vguyver2 4 years ago
remember in number 3, the boss said the one who wins will enhirt the title boss and face an endless life of battle (or something) well snake beat Big Boss, and thats what happened to him
camdog27 4 years ago
"To become the best you have to beat the best" I think that is the main idea when this(I guess you can call it curse) is passed on.
I've been watching MGS portable OPS and I believe that the Les enfant terrible was a procject that the PAtriots started. They became afraid of Big Boss And since they coudn't find anyone that could kill him
there was only one solution.
solesurvivor5 4 years ago
i know thats such a depressing thing :(
randomguy9898 3 years ago
it would be cool to see Raven make a cameo in MGS4
SeanneryConnery 5 years ago
he does, or rather Ravens do Appear a bit in MGS4
Perion 4 years ago
and they follow snake around sometimes
Perion 4 years ago
Raven is definitely dead!
filipeflower 4 years ago
JEEZ wat the hell r those birds doin to him thats disgusting.
Georgecoa 5 years ago
eating the SHIT off him.
Patriot18S 5 years ago
Jeez Decoy's Ugly!
EdwardKenobi 5 years ago
It's a Game... So what man! LMAO.
NakedSnake1989 5 years ago
I know, I'm just saying it.
EdwardKenobi 5 years ago