those same corporations own Oprah and Imus, that why Oprah purposely went out of the way to not have Public Enemy, KRS-One and other legends on her show speaking about Hip Hop. and, she generalized the whole aspect of Hip Hop down to "rap", which is still a part of hip hop. there's more to it and she should've done her research, whether she likes the music aspect of it or not.
What he said about Snoop, 50 and all the other mainstream rappers being only 20 percent is absolutely correct. Here is the problem.....all the record labels and radio stations are owned by less than 10 companies and they control everything that's played and that's why that's all the world sees. That's why the image of black people and black culture is down the tubes....because of the corporations.
Those companies MAKE SURE that only that 20 percent is played and seen around the world. If you want to hear KRS ONE, Public Enemy and hip hop that has a message, you have to dig that shit up and search for it. They have taken only a part of what goes on in the black community (gangsta, pimps, bitches and hoes) and they've made those figures into Icons. Thats why the culture has a bad name. Kids have no idea of the history of why they're saying and doing what they're doing. Its just a trend now
People don't know that sagging jeans was a jail trend for guys to have sex or get raped in jail. They don't REALLY know that the reason why we call eachother nigga, bitch and hoe is because of self hatred, because slave owners programed black inferiority into their psyche so much that it never went away when they became free on top of dealing with racism, segregration, marginalization, KKK and a lack of equality in housing and education that's still a problem to this day.
Hip Hop was and is more than just the gangsta, pimp, hoe, drugs, violence BS we're fed everyday. We need to re-claim it and reshape it once again. Rappers don't want to be seen as role models but they are...it takes a village to raise a child and recording artist is high on the food chain of ppl kids look up to so they needed to stop running from their responsibility to their community and the world as GRIOTS. That's even more history ppl have no clue about.
i wish more folks, specially black folks would realize that solja boy and lil wayne isnt hip hop. i'm a producer, and it disgusts me when i see that crap on tv and they have the nerve to call it hip hop...
@vrobsizzle Why are you generalizing Blacks? We only consume 30% of the music. I hate to burst your bubble but Lil wayne and Soulja Boi are apart of hip hop whether you like it or not. I personally don't listen to either one of them but Hip Hop is a form of expression no matter how inarticulate or cliche it may sound. They have their own lane but it's up to us to support the artists that we feel are in our's.
@fsummerour1982 lol yeah i know this ive matured alil bit since that comment lol they are apart of hip hop just as much as the next guy, there just needs to be a balance thats all, the music i make is more traditional hip hop with all the samples and its focus on lyrics and raw beats, i just dont like that the industries today focus on only one type of hip hop and milk it till its dry, and give no room for any other type to branch out, except if yer a vet. balance is all i ask lol
@fsummerour1982 lil wayne is ok, i think soldja boy has no talent what so ever lol but ya know anybody that believes they have the talent to be successful in this business would get alil salty if they saw someone on trying to do the same thing and them making a mockery of what you have a passion for, i like the old wayne more than his new stuff, and soldja boy is trash to me...but thats my opinion lol but yeah yer def. right lol
9th is a beautiful person...what an articulate, balanced opinion on the issue. ive been waiting to hear some shit like this for a while....couldn't have said it even close to as well myself.
I wondered what 9th looked like. great to see someone who really understands hip-hop giving their 2 cents on these type of subjects. Continue to rep real hip-hop
9th Wonder is mad balanced! He knows the score! Yeah! Hip-Hop is a poison and a medicine! Seen! Its a paradox but look at it! Hip-Hop is a blank canvas people need to treat it as such rather than a blueprint! A truly balanced man! Fuck race and culture the problems lie within demographics and profits! A true artist isn't concerned with either just making shit that is beneficial to themselves and the listener! Pop culture sucks and not in a good way! ;)
I used to put down producers who used Fruityloops until I heard Little Brother.....I was like "no way in hell this was made with fruityloops" I have such mad respect for 9th wonder!
Writing a paper on the freedom of speech within song lyrics, using the Don Imus incident as my main point of focus. 9th wonder covers it best, really why are people so angry because of what he said. It was ignorance but he was just trying to say something controversial, its what makes money these days, he knows it so does everyone else. Everything 9th goes on to say truest you can get!
jews were 75% of slave owners. over44% of violent crimes against blacks were jews at the time of freedom for the slaves. if u don't understand your position u won't under how to articulate it. our dynamic of rebellion has been squashed. blacks think now we are all here together we need to get along. remeber willie lynch it was set up 4 them to prosper and us to remain marginalized. khalid muhammad
Imagine this scenario....any high profile brotha on the radio..."yeah, those some long nose money grubbers makin' Vanity Fair's top 100 list?" In reference to the 51 Jews that made the list outside of the two blacks JaY Z & Oprah. Imagine the outcry...imagine the frustation and cries of racism. It could even be rationalized by sayin' .."Well, I heard Jewish comedians talk about their noses. Seinfeld talks about schemin' to make money, etc."
I agree, why did they do this so called "town hall meeting" now?! This should have taken full steam in the 90's when it was almost unheard of to cuss in MOST CDs!
By the way, where's Jimmy Iovine, how come he's never under the microscope?
We can't put the blame on Imus??? Is the respect for BW that low BM-Yeah one of you rappers talk crazy about a jewish woman and they'll do you like Mike and won't feel sorry about it.
Yeah we're free with our mouth's but not free with our minds-No the blame should be on these retarded BM WRITING these lyrics-C. Delores Tucker 15 years ago tried to do what Oprah did and NOBODY supported her then. Instead of bitchin' why don't BM try to change their own music?
I am with you in most of that but to use C. Delores Tucker, is just a disgrace, because she was in it for the money and everyone knows it-even her!
She never had any intention to bring positivity to the forefront, just to get paid, and paid well, so we can use others who actually care about Social change, and not Social status!
9th speaking the truth!!! all oprah does is choose to only listen to one aspect something and make an opinion on it. plus oprah is nothing but a man basher as well during that so-called town hall meeting thay had a panel of men no women on there who were advocates of rap. and oprah and the aundience just decided to gang up on them this is why i wouldn't waste my time watching oprah.
finally, someone i agree with. oprah's townhall meeting was on earlier, and all it did was piss me off. they were avoiding the point, making dumbass statements. 9th got it right.
Word. But those cats that he mentioned, I guess you can safely say represent the positive side. The non-commercial side that should get air play. Not only are they positive, they can spit circles around these cats that are on the radios now.
those same corporations own Oprah and Imus, that why Oprah purposely went out of the way to not have Public Enemy, KRS-One and other legends on her show speaking about Hip Hop. and, she generalized the whole aspect of Hip Hop down to "rap", which is still a part of hip hop. there's more to it and she should've done her research, whether she likes the music aspect of it or not.
92680BOYD 1 year ago
he the mann
ndawg1801 2 years ago
What he said about Snoop, 50 and all the other mainstream rappers being only 20 percent is absolutely correct. Here is the problem.....all the record labels and radio stations are owned by less than 10 companies and they control everything that's played and that's why that's all the world sees. That's why the image of black people and black culture is down the tubes....because of the corporations.
YBGrind 2 years ago
Those companies MAKE SURE that only that 20 percent is played and seen around the world. If you want to hear KRS ONE, Public Enemy and hip hop that has a message, you have to dig that shit up and search for it. They have taken only a part of what goes on in the black community (gangsta, pimps, bitches and hoes) and they've made those figures into Icons. Thats why the culture has a bad name. Kids have no idea of the history of why they're saying and doing what they're doing. Its just a trend now
YBGrind 2 years ago
People don't know that sagging jeans was a jail trend for guys to have sex or get raped in jail. They don't REALLY know that the reason why we call eachother nigga, bitch and hoe is because of self hatred, because slave owners programed black inferiority into their psyche so much that it never went away when they became free on top of dealing with racism, segregration, marginalization, KKK and a lack of equality in housing and education that's still a problem to this day.
YBGrind 2 years ago
Hip Hop was and is more than just the gangsta, pimp, hoe, drugs, violence BS we're fed everyday. We need to re-claim it and reshape it once again. Rappers don't want to be seen as role models but they are...it takes a village to raise a child and recording artist is high on the food chain of ppl kids look up to so they needed to stop running from their responsibility to their community and the world as GRIOTS. That's even more history ppl have no clue about.
YBGrind 2 years ago
"all our hopes" - little brother
TIRM2007 2 years ago
it's called "let it go" ft. Mos Def on the Separate but Equal mixtape wit DJ Drama
truthless1 2 years ago
What's the name of the first song?
temistoclebanana 2 years ago
Damn I feel proud as fuck after watchin this
73pantherz 2 years ago 5
9th RULES
rzndstreetball 2 years ago
I agreed 100% with everything he said. PREACH!
decline6 3 years ago
You betta advocate for the hip hop class/initiative! SPEAK!!!
crysta2k2 3 years ago
Speak!!! LOL
crysta2k2 3 years ago
Imagine an M-1 or an Immortal Technique at that town hall meating. Those advocates of Rap would have to change their drawers.
TheAtotheK 3 years ago
real talk
youngOsiris612 3 years ago
i wish more folks, specially black folks would realize that solja boy and lil wayne isnt hip hop. i'm a producer, and it disgusts me when i see that crap on tv and they have the nerve to call it hip hop...
vrobsizzle 3 years ago 10
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leave lil wayne alone. but soulja toys a fag.
SinSeared 3 years ago
@vrobsizzle Why are you generalizing Blacks? We only consume 30% of the music. I hate to burst your bubble but Lil wayne and Soulja Boi are apart of hip hop whether you like it or not. I personally don't listen to either one of them but Hip Hop is a form of expression no matter how inarticulate or cliche it may sound. They have their own lane but it's up to us to support the artists that we feel are in our's.
fsummerour1982 4 months ago
@fsummerour1982 lol yeah i know this ive matured alil bit since that comment lol they are apart of hip hop just as much as the next guy, there just needs to be a balance thats all, the music i make is more traditional hip hop with all the samples and its focus on lyrics and raw beats, i just dont like that the industries today focus on only one type of hip hop and milk it till its dry, and give no room for any other type to branch out, except if yer a vet. balance is all i ask lol
vrobsizzle 4 months ago
@fsummerour1982 lil wayne is ok, i think soldja boy has no talent what so ever lol but ya know anybody that believes they have the talent to be successful in this business would get alil salty if they saw someone on trying to do the same thing and them making a mockery of what you have a passion for, i like the old wayne more than his new stuff, and soldja boy is trash to me...but thats my opinion lol but yeah yer def. right lol
vrobsizzle 4 months ago
9th from my hometown. I'm glad he made it and is successful.
RobertPlatinum 3 years ago 3
9th is a beautiful person...what an articulate, balanced opinion on the issue. ive been waiting to hear some shit like this for a while....couldn't have said it even close to as well myself.
allinthegame90 3 years ago 3
I wondered what 9th looked like. great to see someone who really understands hip-hop giving their 2 cents on these type of subjects. Continue to rep real hip-hop
Barasuishou91 3 years ago 3
this is the truth
freekyzeeky12 3 years ago 3
Thank god for 9th
Slurpx04 3 years ago 4
Thank god for 9th
Slurpx04 3 years ago 2
9th Wonder is mad balanced! He knows the score! Yeah! Hip-Hop is a poison and a medicine! Seen! Its a paradox but look at it! Hip-Hop is a blank canvas people need to treat it as such rather than a blueprint! A truly balanced man! Fuck race and culture the problems lie within demographics and profits! A true artist isn't concerned with either just making shit that is beneficial to themselves and the listener! Pop culture sucks and not in a good way! ;)
AdamantiumSimian 3 years ago 2
TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
tpriest1914 3 years ago
9th wonder speaks the truth. you can talk about hip hop unless you understand hip hop.
Stephen345 4 years ago 6
exactly
all the radio teaches is pushin pimpin and property"
emohkay 4 years ago 4
9th wonder is dropping knowledge here. Much respect to him and his music.
tchalla071 4 years ago 10
Much love 9th.
Eniledam20 4 years ago 4
Not only can the guy bring out soul from a machine (Fruity Loops), he is also educated in social political issues. 9th you are the man.
DJManoloco 4 years ago 5
I used to put down producers who used Fruityloops until I heard Little Brother.....I was like "no way in hell this was made with fruityloops" I have such mad respect for 9th wonder!
djphatd 4 years ago 3
Writing a paper on the freedom of speech within song lyrics, using the Don Imus incident as my main point of focus. 9th wonder covers it best, really why are people so angry because of what he said. It was ignorance but he was just trying to say something controversial, its what makes money these days, he knows it so does everyone else. Everything 9th goes on to say truest you can get!
SteveWill1986 4 years ago 2
so true
spoken from one of the best
bracket3 4 years ago 3
9th wonder has read my mind.
ironman36 4 years ago
jews were 75% of slave owners. over44% of violent crimes against blacks were jews at the time of freedom for the slaves. if u don't understand your position u won't under how to articulate it. our dynamic of rebellion has been squashed. blacks think now we are all here together we need to get along. remeber willie lynch it was set up 4 them to prosper and us to remain marginalized. khalid muhammad
rckbttm14 4 years ago
"u won't under how to articulate it." I don't think you "under how to articulate it."
shadowmorman 4 years ago
he real
TheMighyJoe 4 years ago 3
9th is one intelligent dude. Thats real talk right there.
murderous911 4 years ago 4
9th IS THE TRUTH!!!
Ezr1987 4 years ago
Imagine this scenario....any high profile brotha on the radio..."yeah, those some long nose money grubbers makin' Vanity Fair's top 100 list?" In reference to the 51 Jews that made the list outside of the two blacks JaY Z & Oprah. Imagine the outcry...imagine the frustation and cries of racism. It could even be rationalized by sayin' .."Well, I heard Jewish comedians talk about their noses. Seinfeld talks about schemin' to make money, etc."
Hypocrits!
quetou 4 years ago
I agree, why did they do this so called "town hall meeting" now?! This should have taken full steam in the 90's when it was almost unheard of to cuss in MOST CDs!
By the way, where's Jimmy Iovine, how come he's never under the microscope?
ParadigmShift302 4 years ago
REAL YALK
travonasmith 4 years ago
check out vid from classical the great and 9th wonder on my page....
wednesdayyoung 4 years ago
what did he say about why oprah wanted common on her show? i couldnt here him he was like mumbling..
but yea REAL TALK
bomdiddly 4 years ago
He said the only reason she had Common on was because her viewers knew that he was in Smoking Aces and the gap ads.
coop1974a 4 years ago
intelligent man i respect the hell out of him!!!!!!!!!!!!
qsue47 4 years ago 3
man, tell it BROTHA!!! the TRUTH!
belonb 4 years ago
We can't put the blame on Imus??? Is the respect for BW that low BM-Yeah one of you rappers talk crazy about a jewish woman and they'll do you like Mike and won't feel sorry about it.
pookiebear97 4 years ago
Yeah we're free with our mouth's but not free with our minds-No the blame should be on these retarded BM WRITING these lyrics-C. Delores Tucker 15 years ago tried to do what Oprah did and NOBODY supported her then. Instead of bitchin' why don't BM try to change their own music?
pookiebear97 4 years ago
I am with you in most of that but to use C. Delores Tucker, is just a disgrace, because she was in it for the money and everyone knows it-even her!
She never had any intention to bring positivity to the forefront, just to get paid, and paid well, so we can use others who actually care about Social change, and not Social status!
sdbsingle1 4 years ago
9th speaking the truth!!! all oprah does is choose to only listen to one aspect something and make an opinion on it. plus oprah is nothing but a man basher as well during that so-called town hall meeting thay had a panel of men no women on there who were advocates of rap. and oprah and the aundience just decided to gang up on them this is why i wouldn't waste my time watching oprah.
wardisan 4 years ago
WOW!!!!!
They should have had Chuck D, KRS, Rakim, and 9th Wonder!!!
elmcity 4 years ago
9th should stick to making beats.
grgrgrgff 4 years ago
finally, someone i agree with. oprah's townhall meeting was on earlier, and all it did was piss me off. they were avoiding the point, making dumbass statements. 9th got it right.
bndork 4 years ago
THANK YOU!!!! i saw it too, i was yellin at the tv the whole time.
darkandlovely2007 4 years ago
dis shyyt is so true mann....i gotta admit
TrappStarr99 4 years ago
9th wonder can speak not just with his beats..those are some true statements. finally someone actually telling it like it is...
yimdimdocsum 4 years ago
lol 9th is unfuckswitable
youchosedeath 4 years ago
FOR REAL
Swaters03 4 years ago
"Oprah know who to call and who not to call" LOL ahhhhhh 9th is on point!!!!!!!
victornewman06 4 years ago 2
Word. But those cats that he mentioned, I guess you can safely say represent the positive side. The non-commercial side that should get air play. Not only are they positive, they can spit circles around these cats that are on the radios now.
bluenotes1981 4 years ago
WORD!
TJfromLP 4 years ago
all of that is real isht, great points were made, great questions were asked, very insightful
thephantom06 4 years ago